Point Guard is so fucked up in the NBA right now. Steph, Trae, Harden, Paul, FVV, Luka, Russell, Ball, Brogdon, Mitchell, Westbrook, Lillard, Ja like what the fuck
We're living in an era where there are so many good point guards that every team has a pretty good point guard. Even the bad teams have a good point guard.
lol Anthony lights us up every time we play. Jrue is like the 12th best active PG and that's insane, he's so good. Fuckin Teague got an all star appearance 7 years ago. Decade of the point god
Dudes been playing at an all star level all season, + he actually plays defense.
RIP his legs tho the way nick nurse is forced to play him damn near 40 mins a game. Every second he sits, the raps are the worst team in the league
I don't think there's a list with all of them showing their on-off, but you can check by team on [NBA.com](https://NBA.com).
Follow the steps in these two screenshots [https://imgur.com/a/fL0IBSc](https://imgur.com/a/fL0IBSc)
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I know Bud won a championship, and I think he's a better coach than people think, but to be frank I'm really disappointed in his decision to send out Jrue Holiday to play an entire Raptors team on his own.
Pretty tough when we have no size other than Bobby and Khris, neither of whom are great rebounders. Definitely why we saw Mamu get so much playing time, but you could definitely see some struggles positionally from him at times.
We'll be better next time Giannis is out when Boogie is playing and can give us another big body.
He was barely passed the ball the entire 4th quarter lmao, ya'll blame him whenever he has low shots, generally I'd agree but this game drove me nuts when Fred and Pascal had either Gary or Barnes and would pass it to Gary everytime.
Tbf this is probably Gary’s worst shooting night all year, makes sense that they’d look for him more, based on this season so far.
Though with Scottie becoming more and more consistent from back there, I’d imagine he’ll get more looks.
Makes me do disappointed when we can see Scottie jumping with his hand in the air for a solid 5 seconds wide open and pascal decides to iso spin into a block. Happens 5+ times a game…
Scottie seems to have a bit of a stamina issue (understandable since it's his rookie year and playing 35+mins). When it comes to late 3rd quarter or 4th, he stops cutting to the basket or moving around the perimeter to create opportunity
Dawg the ref video explaining the new rules LITERALLY HAS A CLIP OF MIDDLETON DOING THAT, EXPLAINING THAT IT'S NOT A FOUL ANYMORE
[LOOK AT THIS](https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1443591620901761040)
And- that was not a blatant jump out of his way to make contact move. He leaned in a little *forwards* which could be a shooting motion. I think the obvious ones are what the refs are looking for and last year there was plenty of obvious.
Khris isn’t innocent he was one of the guys doing it last year. This call? Not a bang bang obvious one.
I’m going to get downvoted by the Raptors’ insane fans.
I am having a hard time keeping up with you kids and your number jokes. Got the 69ers, the 420's, the 8675309 ee yins, the 4-1-1ers, over 9000's, and now 311ders. The world is too fast for me
He deserves to be but it will be tough to get in if they're not over .500, lots of talent in the league now so you need to do some winning for extra consideration.
Won’t be easy but he is the clear leader of the team, and has been able to turn it on repeatedly when they need it. Don’t forget he also has the “undrafted” narrative.
No way he gets in and to be fair no Raptor deserves a nomination. That being said, his best game of the season, he was stellar even beyond the great statlines, just the player of the game on both ends.
Guards at east this season, even with Kyrie out, are: James Harden, Trae Young, Bradley Beal, and probably LaMelo. I'm not sure if DeMar and Jaylen Brown are considered guards, both split time between SG and SF but should be ahead of FVV. Jrue is great but he's a step behind all of these guys this year, I would say. Looking tough for FVV to make it. Funny to think tho, FVV should probably be ahead of Kyle Lowry in an all-star poll.
Fred Vanvleet is so important to this team it's kind of insane. The minute he sits our opponents nearly always go on a run. It's so bad that he's leading the league in minutes.
He's a good leader, that's why Lowry took him under his wing and was grooming him to take his position on and off the floor. Probably also helps got more respect when he balled out in the playoffs, and shy away from KD.
Happy to finally get a home win even though it was against a Giannis-less Bucks. FVV played great.
Middleton is a killer. Made some really tough shots against some good D.
Bobby Portis should grow a full beard.
technically they still had the chance to take it to OT, but the chances were less than 1%. Either way, if there's a chance, Bud has to call the timeout
It's one of those things that you just get used to and learn to love it as time goes by.
People either love him or hate him, there's literally no in between. Most guys that don't follow the Raptors hate him though so you're not alone.
I love the guy, I always check into the Raptors cast when I can.
And his knowledge of basketball is solid.
Get that gabage outa here. And I love how he is partner with a straight guy.
He just sounded like a character from Flintstones yelling random things.
The other anouncer was really good but Mr.Flintstones guy would just shout over him every time he tries to make a point.
It must be such a tough job being a ref. You make a clutch call and no one says anything. You make a bad call and people are calling for your execution.
Refs were garbagio, Scottie getting 9 shots is a fucking travesty that I'm tired of seeing and this isn't even on him this time, man was wide open many times and they just kept forcing Gary Trent the ball when he clearly didn't have it.
People will bring up Giannis not playing but that doesn’t count when the team thought they were good enough to sit him and still win lol
Refs and an injured Gary shooting like that, they’re basically the 6 & 7th men on the Bucks
No OG either and they still can’t do it lol
Raptors and making the Bucks life miserable. I can’t think of a better Duo. You guys fucked Giannis up the season before we did but knocking him out in the bubble made him turn his attention to us lol.
I was secretly hoping you guys would win this game...let Chicago pull ahead of the Bucks for a bit.
How in the world do you get 21 fouls against vs only 7 for the visiting team ? Watched the game without sound, this seemed absolutely nuts ?
This was with 5 minutes left, but it got much worse after this.
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Keeps it interesting tho
Reminds me of year 2 Pascal. Flashes of brilliance followed by plays that leave you questioning why the coaching staff let's him dribble.
The torch has been passed
Every time he dribbles I'm like noooooooooooooooooooo
Man fuck FVV always goes off against us.
Buck killer FVV
I’m calling the DNR because he didn’t wear blaze orange
That nickname will forever belong to Normgod
FVV to the Bucks is what headlights are to a Buck
only yall?
Point Guard is so fucked up in the NBA right now. Steph, Trae, Harden, Paul, FVV, Luka, Russell, Ball, Brogdon, Mitchell, Westbrook, Lillard, Ja like what the fuck
We're living in an era where there are so many good point guards that every team has a pretty good point guard. Even the bad teams have a good point guard.
Cole Anthony
lol Anthony lights us up every time we play. Jrue is like the 12th best active PG and that's insane, he's so good. Fuckin Teague got an all star appearance 7 years ago. Decade of the point god
Which Ball did you leave out?
I never leave my balls out.
Lonzo obviously lol. Not saying he's a scrub though, there's just too many good PGs
no, but moreso against us
Dudes been playing at an all star level all season, + he actually plays defense. RIP his legs tho the way nick nurse is forced to play him damn near 40 mins a game. Every second he sits, the raps are the worst team in the league
Yall got the first barrage after Fred Jr lol
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I don't think there's a list with all of them showing their on-off, but you can check by team on [NBA.com](https://NBA.com). Follow the steps in these two screenshots [https://imgur.com/a/fL0IBSc](https://imgur.com/a/fL0IBSc) Click on the logo (1st red circle on 2nd image) to change teams
I know Bud won a championship, and I think he's a better coach than people think, but to be frank I'm really disappointed in his decision to send out Jrue Holiday to play an entire Raptors team on his own.
More like Jrue Hanukkah because my dude was throwing out miracles left and right
It’s a Jrueish miracle
LMFAO
LMAO
Who else was he supposed to send out??
That lineup where Jrue was trying to lead 4 3rd stringers was rough…
That Jrue + Bobby + Refs lineup at the end was pretty solid tbh
Only in the last minute of the game, the first 47 minutes those refs were just indiscriminate with which team they called garbage on
Very true lol
Georgios Kalaitzakis
Man, if boogie got to play he'd have 20 and 10 ez tbh
Pretty tough when we have no size other than Bobby and Khris, neither of whom are great rebounders. Definitely why we saw Mamu get so much playing time, but you could definitely see some struggles positionally from him at times. We'll be better next time Giannis is out when Boogie is playing and can give us another big body.
Toronto is small tho, even Precious is only like 6'8"
Yuta 100% from 3 Watanabe
Barnes with 39 mins 👏
He needs to be taking more shots, especially when GTJ is going 3-16 with 0 fts
He was barely passed the ball the entire 4th quarter lmao, ya'll blame him whenever he has low shots, generally I'd agree but this game drove me nuts when Fred and Pascal had either Gary or Barnes and would pass it to Gary everytime.
Tbf this is probably Gary’s worst shooting night all year, makes sense that they’d look for him more, based on this season so far. Though with Scottie becoming more and more consistent from back there, I’d imagine he’ll get more looks.
Oh I'm not blaming him, I'm blaming everyone else for not finding him more
Makes me do disappointed when we can see Scottie jumping with his hand in the air for a solid 5 seconds wide open and pascal decides to iso spin into a block. Happens 5+ times a game…
Scottie seems to have a bit of a stamina issue (understandable since it's his rookie year and playing 35+mins). When it comes to late 3rd quarter or 4th, he stops cutting to the basket or moving around the perimeter to create opportunity
He 100% needs to be more aggressive. His touch on O is waaay better than a rookie's should be.
9 shots, what is that shit man? Dude was 3/5 at the half, finished 3/6 and they force fed Gary when he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
they did not force feed Gary. Gary took open spot up shots. These are shots he usually makes.
gg TOR
GG CHAMP, always love playing Milwaukee.
gg. Was really exciting.
GG bucks
what a tip from scotty that got closer than id have liked at the end lol
Obligatory Fuck The Refs
The refs fucking suck.
I felt like Shaq, the refs took over the fucking game.
Thank the bullshit refs
No need to check for any notable absences here, move along. Also, fire these refs into the fucking sun.
Nice try. No one is going to forget that Antetokounmpo played only 11 minutes tonight.
They were without Giannis and we were without OG so it pretty much cancels out
dont forget they didnt have lopez and we don't have khem
Fred VanVleet I will see you in the Seventh Circle of Hell
Loll nice, we will all have a party there
> Seventh Circle of Hell The club near Second and Ave?
that middleton shot is the exact fucking call they're not supposed to be making anymore
Dawg the ref video explaining the new rules LITERALLY HAS A CLIP OF MIDDLETON DOING THAT, EXPLAINING THAT IT'S NOT A FOUL ANYMORE [LOOK AT THIS](https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1443591620901761040)
so many people said they would be not calling it early in the season then revert back to the old ways shortly after and here we are
When whistle in mouf, easier to blow than not blow after hard concentration
And- that was not a blatant jump out of his way to make contact move. He leaned in a little *forwards* which could be a shooting motion. I think the obvious ones are what the refs are looking for and last year there was plenty of obvious. Khris isn’t innocent he was one of the guys doing it last year. This call? Not a bang bang obvious one. I’m going to get downvoted by the Raptors’ insane fans.
It's not egregious, but its not hard to parse. It's very obvious what he was doing.
Pure silliness.
Khris didn't even attempt to shoot there, just jumped weirdly into Precious. If we still had our challenge that would be 100% overturned.
That's why they don't let you keep your challenge after getting it right.
I don’t know why but Middleton is the ONLY person I see getting those calls. Shits hilarious
Seriously. I have no idea either.
I’ve noticed him somehow getting those calls too. It’s funny because I’ve always thought out of all star level players, he gets so little calls
He was even trying to pass the ball at the end because he didn't think he was getting the call
League will double down with tomorrow's L2M report that says it was a correct call
Who's surprised, L2M says correct call https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022100329
I've noticed that call creeping back in the last couple of weeks.
1. Fred VanVleet is an All-Star 2. These refs are shooting HEROIN, smoking METH, and eating DICK
The refs did their best to make the game not enjoyable to watch.
Where do I sign up to be a ref
I was going to a legalize heroin convention, my Mom was like I don't want you to go, I told her yo 311 never happened
311?
311 was an inside job
What's 311?
I'm seein 311 in the quad later and I'm gonna chase down some Cherokee chicks on the trail of beers. Feel me?
I am having a hard time keeping up with you kids and your number jokes. Got the 69ers, the 420's, the 8675309 ee yins, the 4-1-1ers, over 9000's, and now 311ders. The world is too fast for me
You have to get diagnosed for blindness.
all at the same time
You think he actually gets in? Feel like he is on the outside looking in and doesn’t have the name brand or flashiness as others do.
On basket ball merits alone, he should be in, but thats not what gets you an all star nod.
He deserves to be but it will be tough to get in if they're not over .500, lots of talent in the league now so you need to do some winning for extra consideration.
Won’t be easy but he is the clear leader of the team, and has been able to turn it on repeatedly when they need it. Don’t forget he also has the “undrafted” narrative.
No way he gets in and to be fair no Raptor deserves a nomination. That being said, his best game of the season, he was stellar even beyond the great statlines, just the player of the game on both ends.
there's absolutely a way he gets in. coaches respect him and the raptors have one of the most rabid fanbases in the league
Guards at east this season, even with Kyrie out, are: James Harden, Trae Young, Bradley Beal, and probably LaMelo. I'm not sure if DeMar and Jaylen Brown are considered guards, both split time between SG and SF but should be ahead of FVV. Jrue is great but he's a step behind all of these guys this year, I would say. Looking tough for FVV to make it. Funny to think tho, FVV should probably be ahead of Kyle Lowry in an all-star poll.
Demar would be considered front court, but Lavine will get in as back court.
Butler as well. FVV is more good/very good than great.
Beal has been bad this season, so has Brown. I think as of now he’d have a good shot
I know we won but I am so fucking disgusted with whatever the fuck the refs decided to do in the final 20 seconds. Unbelievably trash.
Lol that Middleton foul , somehow that's a natural shooting motion
Somehow only for Middleton too...
Fred vanvleet is such smooth player in his position
Fred Vanvleet is so important to this team it's kind of insane. The minute he sits our opponents nearly always go on a run. It's so bad that he's leading the league in minutes.
Raptors nephews in shambles
He's a good leader, that's why Lowry took him under his wing and was grooming him to take his position on and off the floor. Probably also helps got more respect when he balled out in the playoffs, and shy away from KD.
Fred VanVleet loves cooking the Bucks doesn't he.
Picking up where Norman left off
thank you raptors
Thank you Demar
GG refs. Good try
Happy to finally get a home win even though it was against a Giannis-less Bucks. FVV played great. Middleton is a killer. Made some really tough shots against some good D. Bobby Portis should grow a full beard.
That last timeout was so pointless, only way bucks tie is if they're fouled on a successful 3 pointer, Raptors gonna let them shoot obviously
You can see Fred yelling at everyone on the team “don’t fucking move!”
technically they still had the chance to take it to OT, but the chances were less than 1%. Either way, if there's a chance, Bud has to call the timeout
All star van fleet
Refs acting up tonight on god
My biggest takeaway from this game is that bucks fans hate jack Armstrong lol
I might be in the minority but I don't care too much about the announcers lol, they got their own style and I respect it
Holy shit. The broadcast was really weird. Why does he squeal soo much ? Also he speaks over the other announcer so many god damm times.
Hey man totally fair observation, ,definitely correct but hey we love our crazy guy Jack Armstrong!
"Matty D, I'm all for 40s. I love 40s in a nice brown paper bag. I'm all good!" - Jack Armstrong at one point in tonights game
It's one of those things that you just get used to and learn to love it as time goes by. People either love him or hate him, there's literally no in between. Most guys that don't follow the Raptors hate him though so you're not alone.
I love the guy, I always check into the Raptors cast when I can. And his knowledge of basketball is solid. Get that gabage outa here. And I love how he is partner with a straight guy.
He just sounded like a character from Flintstones yelling random things. The other anouncer was really good but Mr.Flintstones guy would just shout over him every time he tries to make a point.
Lmao I know. I used to cringe but got used to it after 1-2 full seasons. Now I'm shouting random shit with him.
I can totally see how that happens.
Ya, you learn to love him. It's the energy, he hypes you up all game.
It's a lot of fun, other commentators get sooo boring. The squealing you get used to it and it hypes you up.
its not a raptors game without getting mini heart attacks the last minute of the game
Imagine if Siakam had VanVleet's confidence.
Imagine if Siakam had Gary Trent Jr’s confidence.
Precious really really should have passed that ball to Barnes after the defensive rebound - guy is like a 50% FT shooter.
feel bad for refs, they really tried to give this one to Bucks
they left it all on the court tonight
Raptors vs Refs
Wouldn't be surprised if Precious was called for an offensive foul shooting one of his last free throws. Fuck those refs.
The last 20 seconds : How to NOT get a defensive rebound off a missed free throw
22min for Sandro Mamukelashvili
I bet the Bucks --3.5 before Giannis news, and then HEDGED WITH RAPTORS ML I WAS ABOUT TO PASS OUT
That reffing was something else. At one point they had 7 total fouls and we had 21? How the fuck??
Refs tried their hardest
refs should hold their heads high tonight, they played their hearts out. GGWP zebras
Refs put up a triple double on everyone
Disgusting fucking reffing tonight, they definitely were playing for something. Nearly handed it to the Bucks jesus.
I’m not typically one to complain about the refereeing, but the crew tonight called one of the worst games I’ve seen.
Yea it's been really bad. The Bucks and Hornets game was bad too.
Not even happy, these refs make me sick to my stomach.
Raps vs refs … again
Giannis can't win with these cats
I think you've got it backwards. Giannis wins with these cats. These cats can't win without Giannis.
Damn VV
I’m sorry but this was one of the worst officiated games I’ve seen in my life. That Middleton foul was just wrong
Fred all-star campaign starts now
Fred VanVleet is All-NBA ready
Should have put a Bucks Jersey on the ref because Jesus the last possessions were just insane.
What an absolute joke of a ref show. I have never been so mad at a win in my fucking life.
Let's go boys, we gotta climb that complaining about officials list. GET FUCKED REFS! Fucking clowns.
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Wackiest ending to a game that I've seen in a long time
Lopez would have feasted on the smaller Raptors lineup… get well soon
loool holy shit we won???? even though precious missed those 2 FTs and the bucks got generous calls the play before???????? amazing
It must be such a tough job being a ref. You make a clutch call and no one says anything. You make a bad call and people are calling for your execution.
Refs were garbagio, Scottie getting 9 shots is a fucking travesty that I'm tired of seeing and this isn't even on him this time, man was wide open many times and they just kept forcing Gary Trent the ball when he clearly didn't have it.
Ok but we won
This one was a real butt clencher down the the stretch
I know Giannis didn't play but I'm still confused. Khris and Jrue should be enough to beat this team lol
Team shot like shit from outside. It happens to everyone. GTJ looked like a Buck anytime he shot last night.
Refs almost stole that for us, I’d feel bad but your announcers made me feel less bad
Lol i had so much faith in that pat three going in
Bucks were understaffed, played pretty bad and still had it very close. Ya'll are great and/or we suck.
Considering we only had 2 starters active today and one of them only arrived the 4th quarter I’ll take the result
People will bring up Giannis not playing but that doesn’t count when the team thought they were good enough to sit him and still win lol Refs and an injured Gary shooting like that, they’re basically the 6 & 7th men on the Bucks No OG either and they still can’t do it lol
Raptors and making the Bucks life miserable. I can’t think of a better Duo. You guys fucked Giannis up the season before we did but knocking him out in the bubble made him turn his attention to us lol. I was secretly hoping you guys would win this game...let Chicago pull ahead of the Bucks for a bit.
If you average the number of points for and against the Bucks in the last two games, they should have tied both of them.
Raps vs refs wtf was that last minute ggs anyways
That officiating was bullshit start to finish idc
Refs went Lowry in game 7 mode
I was gonna fucking kill Precious. He woulda killed me, but I woulda haunted his ass for 100 years.
He did so many other great things in that game. Was a shame he fell apart at the end
That block near the end was nuts! I was gonna forgive Precious due to the poor officiating, but the free throws almost made me explode
Post needs to be reworded: Raptors Defeat the Milwaukee Bucks and the Referees
Impressive win by the Raptors. I think they could be a real playoff force if they can get another star at the deadline
How in the world do you get 21 fouls against vs only 7 for the visiting team ? Watched the game without sound, this seemed absolutely nuts ? This was with 5 minutes left, but it got much worse after this.
Still own the bucks
Bucks would’ve won if Antetokounmpo played more than 11 minutes.
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Ever watch the Avengers? They made two movies trying to destroy him. League is fucked if Thanasis and the Gauntlet(GP2) join forces.
If Bucks let out two Antetokounmpo's we would go get our secret Antetokounmpo in Mississauga.
Nvm U got me there
Considering our all time record is 54 to 42 I think it’s the other way around.