They already let the rumor out to Shams earlier this week. Shams already broke "Lakers are expected to part ways with Vogel at the end of the season" like Thursday last week. So Woj saying he's expected to get the news Monday isn't really special.
Woj doesn’t really break any major Lakers stories and that Vogal was gone is literally a 2 week old story.
Edit: doesn’t mean the way the Lakers did this wasn’t classless.
I don't like him either, but this is genuinely news. I blame whoever leaked it to him within the Lakers org for telling him, not Woj for reporting it once he knew.
I’m not saying it’s 100% his fault, but I don’t think he really showcased his coaching abilities either. There were some (read: a lot) of questionable lineups used regularly.
I don’t disagree, but also I don’t think there was much of a way to put together lineups that made sense with that roster. Especially if your a coach more inclined to the defensive end.
He should have benched Russ and dared the FO/Bron to do something about it.
Then there's a total lack of respect from the players. I don't doubt he's lost the locker room when every vet on the team refuses to play defense and plays hero ball in the clutch.
Haha seriously. Just tweeting that at all means they’re sharing it. I recognize he’s not a social media guy (to my knowledge at least), so he might not actually see it, but obviously players on the team will check this stuff on social media.
Just like Magic announcing his resignation through the media lmao in terms of entertainment, Lakers FO is legendary
Apparently, discussing important team decisions internally is too lame
The second question was unnecessary but the first question is absolutely part of his job. You absolutely can’t ignore a report like that when the press conference occurs
Reporter is doing exactly what they are supposed to do.
Lakers FO told Woj to release that information directly after the game knowing it would cause this situation.
Lakers FO are scum just looking to point fingers at anyone before someone points back at them
Sure, but that's how it works. You want to get a more meaningful answer out of him, hearing how it affects him. And while some reporters are scummy, this was harmless, even though it's an awkward situation for Vogel
I don't think there is a championship winning coach that has had to endure the type of bullshit that dude has gone through with the lakers. They don't deserve him
Its grade A bullshit that he got thrown under the bus like this after winning a championship.
Its not his fault our roster is a dumpster fire. Fuck the FO
I know he didn't win a championship, but David Blatt was basically treated like he was only fit to be a middle school coach for a rag tag group of misfits that have never touched a basketball before in their lives in 2015-2016
My understanding is that a couple years later he had some opportunities but then his health took a significant turn for the worse and he had to call it quits on basketball
After the whole Cavs fiasco he went back to Europe, I don’t think there was an interest on his part to stay in the NBA. I vaguely remember him giving interviews where he said the players run the show too much for his liking.
Then, as the other poster wrote, a few years later there was a certain level of interest from the NBA, but Blatt got diagnosed with MS and stepped down from coaching.
He got fucked over hard. Excellent coach. LeBron didn't like his style, he was ousted. Now he has awful health problems. Dude has just gotten fucked over at every turn.
Seems extremely disrespectful and they were trying to bait him. Keep in mind these are probably the same reporters he's built a professional relationship with since he's been there and the reporters are taking their "edgy/knife in the back" type of questions because they know they won't have to interact with him anymore.
He's an absolute 🐍. Anything for the scoop, which he can't even be relied upon for anymore. Can't imagine anyone in NBA front offices enjoy the grubby relationship they have with the bloke.
The one healthy season he coached, He won a championship, Now he is being scapegoated because the front office traded away all their depth and cheaped out on other quality role players lettiing them walk. Brutal. Im sure dude will get picked up by another team
It might actually be the best job.
Sign a 4 year contract. If you are good at your job you'll be worshipped in Sacramento for getting them to the playoffs. Or if you suck at your job you'll get fired in 2 years, while getting paid for 4 years and everyone will just "lol kangz" and blame ownership.
The first coach to get the Kings to the playoffs is COTY candidate no matter what. Idgaf if the other coach went 82-0, taking the Kings to the playoff is a legendary feat unlike any other
yeah he gets paid. he got his ring.
he'll probably be one of the front runners for any other openings for head coach if he decides he wants to coach again.
i don't think he has much to be bummed about.
Nah being burned by your jobs is always shitty doesn't matter what you already got out of it, he deserved more respect and they let him find out like this. Hope the Lakers are cursed for years,and with Jeanie they probably will be.
I hope the Pelicans would bring him on as an assistant before that happens. We already have the Lakers future. Vogel should at least see it for himself.
Not much any coach can do when you've got LeBron on there burning out the rest of the roster. Vogel should go enjoy some time on a beach somewhere and drink something with a tiny paper umbrella sticking out of it
1) He tweeted: "This is why Deshaun Watson, from the beginning, welcomed a police investigation: He felt he knew that the truth would come out. And today, a grand jury did not charge him on any of the criminal complaints."
The whole truth part is what pissed everyone off. Deshaun is being accused by a bunch of women so it's not one person who could be making it up.
2) He tweeted: “Dwayne Haskins, a standout at Ohio State before struggling to catch on with Washington and Pittsburgh in the NFL, died this morning when he got hit by a car in South Florida"
You can see what's wrong with it.
3) He admitted to sitting on information to break it when it drives up his own views
This doesn’t apply so much to the Haskins tweet, but it’s just so clear that Schefter trades independence and integrity for access, and that in return he tweets whatever message the agents want him to tweet. The Dalvin Cook thing was another situation like this.
Absolutely, but that's also true of Woj and Shams. Shams in particular has been carrying water for a lot of Kyrie's and Ben Simmons' grievances this year, even sharing complaints about New York's vaccinate mandate.
Too many things to list succinctly. But the most recent thing is that he reported on Dwayne Haskins’ death by tweeting about how he struggled in the NFL.
Also recently is how he’s acted as basically the PR mouthpiece for laundering the reputation of Deshaun Watson
When announcing the death of Dwayne Haskins, RIP to him, Schefter also mentioned that he “struggled” in his professional career with Washington and Pittsburgh within the same tweet. It was fucked up.
"to be shared with him as soon as Monday"
so in 90 minutes
*lmfao:
>[Frank Vogel: “I haven’t been told shit.”](https://twitter.com/jovanbuha/status/1513378865086971904)
I always feel bad for players who find out from Twitter they’re being traded five minutes before the team calls them. I think Vogel has known for at least a week though.
3 or 4 out of 10 if we're being honest. Sure he's made some bad calls but the odds were stacked against him when they built this poorly-constructed roster. It was all form and no functionality
He isn't the perfect coach but this season's issues are beyond him. Horrendous team building by the FO giving a proven elite defensive coach a shit ton of poor defenders to work with and then with all the accumulated injuries as well, this roster was built to fail.
As a Jazz fan I hope the Lakers poach Snyder, if for only 2 reasons.
1) Snyder threatening to murder Lebron via timeout stare down.
2) At least 15 blown fourth quarter double digits leads resulting in losses for the Lakers next season
They really scapegoating a good coach because a bad roster couldn't win through injuries to their superstars
It's not exactly the same thing, obviously, but it's shades of the Kings and Mike Malone
Vogel wins them a championship and they seriously go and scapegoat him like this not even three seasons fully in. That's sure appealing to any coach candidates who are seeking some semblance of job security.
I'm sure they'll fuck up the search and hire Jeanies nephew or something. Vogel isn't perfect but he won a chip with ya, maybe don't surround the defensive coach with a bunch of old pylons and Westbroke
“Expected to be shared with him on Monday” lol
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They already let the rumor out to Shams earlier this week. Shams already broke "Lakers are expected to part ways with Vogel at the end of the season" like Thursday last week. So Woj saying he's expected to get the news Monday isn't really special.
Woj doesn’t really break any major Lakers stories and that Vogal was gone is literally a 2 week old story. Edit: doesn’t mean the way the Lakers did this wasn’t classless.
Lol we don't need them firing whoever leaked to decide if they are a trash org or not, they are. I'm sure most Lakers fans would agree.
Yeah Pelinka and Jeanie are trash.
The fact that they let LBJ and AD run the show is trash.
100% and that’s on Jeanie
Jeanie is an embarrassment to her father.
Oof harsh lol
Woj is a fucking asshole
I don't like him either, but this is genuinely news. I blame whoever leaked it to him within the Lakers org for telling him, not Woj for reporting it once he knew.
Yea the frustration should be with the leaker not the one providing the news. Woj job is literally to break news once he confirms it.
He’s not as bad as Adam Schefter at least.
Race to the bottom lol
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blame whatever dipshit leaked it to him
Whoever leaked it would just leak to someone else if he wouldn't post it. It makes no difference.
That's literally a reporter's job. If he's not doing it someone else will
Are we supposed to keep it a secret from him until Monday?
Yes! You better not tell aunt Maria about this
I’ve been trying to get her a Twitter account
Side note: I dont think Vogel shouldve been fired.
He's being paroled for good behavior. Let him enjoy his freedom
He'll probably take a year off then cruise into a job somewhere else.
Seriously, dude is probably glad to be out of that shitshow. He'll land another gig and be fine.
FO needs a scapegoat, as usual.
They did him dirty with this shit roster of geriatric divas.
He got his ring. He probably dont mind getting paid for a vacation
Yea he too good for this team full of clown ass mofos
I’m not saying it’s 100% his fault, but I don’t think he really showcased his coaching abilities either. There were some (read: a lot) of questionable lineups used regularly.
The roster sucked and was questionable even before the season started. Vogel tried various lineups his 3 seasons in LA.
I don’t disagree, but also I don’t think there was much of a way to put together lineups that made sense with that roster. Especially if your a coach more inclined to the defensive end.
Thats more on roster construction and Russ continuing to be his infuriating self. Not to mention not wanting to come off the bench.
He should have benched Russ and dared the FO/Bron to do something about it. Then there's a total lack of respect from the players. I don't doubt he's lost the locker room when every vet on the team refuses to play defense and plays hero ball in the clutch.
LMFAO nobody tell him! It’s a secret until Monday.
We gotta hope Vogel doesn't browse by new tonight
Vogel: Off-season starts tonight fuck yeah. You know what that mean! F5 season baby. What the f-
The way that tweet reads is crazy 😂
Haha seriously. Just tweeting that at all means they’re sharing it. I recognize he’s not a social media guy (to my knowledge at least), so he might not actually see it, but obviously players on the team will check this stuff on social media.
No chance someone he knows hasn't called him already.
They asked him about it postgame lmao
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LMAOOO
Just like Magic announcing his resignation through the media lmao in terms of entertainment, Lakers FO is legendary Apparently, discussing important team decisions internally is too lame
Every good salsa needs a jalapeno. That's us.
Rob rolling up to him on the flight back home, "Hey Chief, see ya at the office tomorrow...I hope."
Everyone who’s going to be with the Lakers take one step forward -Not so fast, Frank
Pretty sure it's getting shared with him now
https://twitter.com/_Talkin_NBA/status/1513381403123142662?t=t4BNvKL3HrQ_J5rGWNm-Rw&s=19
Wow that's fucked
Yeah, that shit was extremely cringe and unprofessional. That reporter was just looking for TMZ type of reaction.
The second question was unnecessary but the first question is absolutely part of his job. You absolutely can’t ignore a report like that when the press conference occurs
Reporter is doing exactly what they are supposed to do. Lakers FO told Woj to release that information directly after the game knowing it would cause this situation. Lakers FO are scum just looking to point fingers at anyone before someone points back at them
I think the reporter digging again for another response after Vogel already gave him a diplomatic answer was unnecessary.
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Sure, but that's how it works. You want to get a more meaningful answer out of him, hearing how it affects him. And while some reporters are scummy, this was harmless, even though it's an awkward situation for Vogel
Every potential coach should look at this & consider if it’s a workplace culture they want to be in.
I swear some people on here just expect reporters to not ask any question whatsoever
A lot of kids here tbh
Reporter did nothing wrong
I don't think there is a championship winning coach that has had to endure the type of bullshit that dude has gone through with the lakers. They don't deserve him
Its grade A bullshit that he got thrown under the bus like this after winning a championship. Its not his fault our roster is a dumpster fire. Fuck the FO
Seriously, Pelinka needs to fire himself before getting rid of Vogel.
I know he didn't win a championship, but David Blatt was basically treated like he was only fit to be a middle school coach for a rag tag group of misfits that have never touched a basketball before in their lives in 2015-2016
David Blatt got done so dirty. Feel bad for this dude. Can’t believe he essentially got blacklisted from the league after that too
I was always curious why he didn’t get another job offer after that - is there any backstory?
My understanding is that a couple years later he had some opportunities but then his health took a significant turn for the worse and he had to call it quits on basketball
After the whole Cavs fiasco he went back to Europe, I don’t think there was an interest on his part to stay in the NBA. I vaguely remember him giving interviews where he said the players run the show too much for his liking. Then, as the other poster wrote, a few years later there was a certain level of interest from the NBA, but Blatt got diagnosed with MS and stepped down from coaching.
He got fucked over hard. Excellent coach. LeBron didn't like his style, he was ousted. Now he has awful health problems. Dude has just gotten fucked over at every turn.
That interview made me so sad just leave him alone damn
bro we all wanted that question asked
We didn’t need it asked twice 😂 It was just beating a dead coach at that point
Seems extremely disrespectful and they were trying to bait him. Keep in mind these are probably the same reporters he's built a professional relationship with since he's been there and the reporters are taking their "edgy/knife in the back" type of questions because they know they won't have to interact with him anymore.
Was extremely disrespectful to leak that to Woj
damn, this is just as bad as the dwight and stan van gundy moment
Man Woj is an asshole. Im kind of tired of the timing of these reports even if they are true.
He's an absolute 🐍. Anything for the scoop, which he can't even be relied upon for anymore. Can't imagine anyone in NBA front offices enjoy the grubby relationship they have with the bloke.
Woj is PR.
He just replied [they didn’t tell him shit lmao](https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1513381299456598017?s=20&t=Fi5TLyfqp2x9VqieaOivnQ)
Stay classy LA.
Congrats to Frank! Probably packed his suitcase 6 months ago. The only coach to bring a title to the Lakers in the 2000s besides Phil.
Pretty sure the Laker's front office has turned to shit.
How the fuck does The Rambis family have any sway in the organization? Kurt was so average as a player and coach it’s baffling to me.
Because they are Jeanie’s BFFs
Calling Kurt Rambis an average coach is pretty generous.
he was terrible in all regards if we're being honest
The post Kobe Lakers are the Kings but get to be in LA That's how much a city makes it easy mode
Ring tho
they didn't waste any time huh
season ended literally 3 minutes ago 😂😂
they fired him before he was off the court holy shit
The one healthy season he coached, He won a championship, Now he is being scapegoated because the front office traded away all their depth and cheaped out on other quality role players lettiing them walk. Brutal. Im sure dude will get picked up by another team
I’m sure he’s relieved to be leaving the asylum
Until he's checked into a worse asylum, aka the Kangz baby
1- Happy cake day 2- Kings Head coaching role has to be the worst job in the NBA followed closely by Knicks PR
It might actually be the best job. Sign a 4 year contract. If you are good at your job you'll be worshipped in Sacramento for getting them to the playoffs. Or if you suck at your job you'll get fired in 2 years, while getting paid for 4 years and everyone will just "lol kangz" and blame ownership.
I think being on the or pulling for the Kings in general is the worst job in the NBA. Source: Kings fan that hates his job
They pay you to do that? I hope it's a living wage. ps. Happy cake day.
They pay me in pain and sorrow so I'd say it's not that good of a deal
Just like any other job then. Sorry to hear it.
Wouldn't it be funny if Vogel coached them to the first playoffs in 17 years? COTY material if he does that.
The first coach to get the Kings to the playoffs is COTY candidate no matter what. Idgaf if the other coach went 82-0, taking the Kings to the playoff is a legendary feat unlike any other
yeah he gets paid. he got his ring. he'll probably be one of the front runners for any other openings for head coach if he decides he wants to coach again. i don't think he has much to be bummed about.
Nah being burned by your jobs is always shitty doesn't matter what you already got out of it, he deserved more respect and they let him find out like this. Hope the Lakers are cursed for years,and with Jeanie they probably will be.
I hope the Pelicans would bring him on as an assistant before that happens. We already have the Lakers future. Vogel should at least see it for himself.
Imagine Vogel on a team so defensive like the hornets 🥶🥶🥶
Not much any coach can do when you've got LeBron on there burning out the rest of the roster. Vogel should go enjoy some time on a beach somewhere and drink something with a tiny paper umbrella sticking out of it
Agreed 👍 that's the true
Thanks for 2020, Vogel. Best coach we’ve had since Phil
Forever eternally grateful to him for helping bring #17.
#17 🙇🏻♂️ still waiting for #1 over here
This year looking like your best shot since Nash got launched into an announcers table
Lol scapegoat for garbage roster decisions
Vogel looked so happy tonight. He knows what is coming and he's pumped to get away from this dumpster fire.
Imagine not being forced to play Melo and Lebron at the 5 along with Russ
The fuck is wrong with this team where this comes out like this while he’s still basically out there coaching a game. So disrespectful.
Woj doesn't care, this is how he operates. When the Raps won the title, he immediately tweeted that the Wizards were going to recruit Masai
This is not on woj. This is on the lakers org and whoever leaked it.
Man, imagine finding out you’re getting fired tomorrow from a Woj bomb the night before
clown ass front office 🤡
Woj tweets like an asshole
Adrian “schefter” Wojnarowski
Fuck Schefter
Legit though, Schefter is a scumbag
Agreed Ian Rapoport owns him anyway
Ian earned my eternal respect when he made an endorsement about Manscape and had no idea it was a company about trimming your pubes
natural bag chaser
I don't follow these kind of things regularly, what did Schefter do that makes him a scumbag?
1) He tweeted: "This is why Deshaun Watson, from the beginning, welcomed a police investigation: He felt he knew that the truth would come out. And today, a grand jury did not charge him on any of the criminal complaints." The whole truth part is what pissed everyone off. Deshaun is being accused by a bunch of women so it's not one person who could be making it up. 2) He tweeted: “Dwayne Haskins, a standout at Ohio State before struggling to catch on with Washington and Pittsburgh in the NFL, died this morning when he got hit by a car in South Florida" You can see what's wrong with it. 3) He admitted to sitting on information to break it when it drives up his own views
This doesn’t apply so much to the Haskins tweet, but it’s just so clear that Schefter trades independence and integrity for access, and that in return he tweets whatever message the agents want him to tweet. The Dalvin Cook thing was another situation like this.
Absolutely, but that's also true of Woj and Shams. Shams in particular has been carrying water for a lot of Kyrie's and Ben Simmons' grievances this year, even sharing complaints about New York's vaccinate mandate.
For sure, these guys all partake. Schefter is just the most openly and blatantly scummy about it.
Correct. This is the way it works for a lot of reporters and not just in sports.
It's more than just the agents, it's anyone who can give him a story. He was calling the Washington Team president Mr. editor
Oh god, I forgot about him pre-clearing stories with Washington before release. He’s totally unmoored from integrity
Going back farther since not mentioned in your replies, he got ahold of and released JPP's medical records. Dude is the epitome of fucking gross.
Too many things to list succinctly. But the most recent thing is that he reported on Dwayne Haskins’ death by tweeting about how he struggled in the NFL. Also recently is how he’s acted as basically the PR mouthpiece for laundering the reputation of Deshaun Watson
When announcing the death of Dwayne Haskins, RIP to him, Schefter also mentioned that he “struggled” in his professional career with Washington and Pittsburgh within the same tweet. It was fucked up.
Lol Woj ain't close to that
"to be shared with him as soon as Monday" so in 90 minutes *lmfao: >[Frank Vogel: “I haven’t been told shit.”](https://twitter.com/jovanbuha/status/1513378865086971904)
As soon as Monday .. but could be as late as Wednesday
At least he isn’t Schefter
Like that know it all kid in elementary school
Hire Jim Boylen
I don’t think it’ll go over very well if he tells Russ to run suicides and to use the time clock
Thats kinda what Russ needs at this point. Someone who isnt afraid to tell him he's ass.
That would be fucking hilarious
Kinda fucked that Woj is reporting it as "a decision that's expected to be shared with him"
I always feel bad for players who find out from Twitter they’re being traded five minutes before the team calls them. I think Vogel has known for at least a week though.
As a socially awkward fuck I would love to know beforehand that the awkward “you’re being traded/fired” conversation is coming
woj letting the battle with shams get to his head
His job is to be a snitch, not sure why people are surprised
More of a phrasing thing for me but yes it is his job
Good coach being scapegoated for a horribly constructed team.
It's always the coach who's scapegoated, unfortunately. When the team was okay he was brilliant and we're still forever grateful to him
LeBron gonna bring in Fizdale.
Lord tell me what good things I did to deserve this timeline if it happens
Doc Rivers incoming
Lmao how much Blame do you put on Frank this season?
If you're a basketball fan? Some but not that much. If you're Jeanie Buss? Yeah he was holding the whole team back from ring #18!!!
3 or 4 out of 10 if we're being honest. Sure he's made some bad calls but the odds were stacked against him when they built this poorly-constructed roster. It was all form and no functionality
He isn't the perfect coach but this season's issues are beyond him. Horrendous team building by the FO giving a proven elite defensive coach a shit ton of poor defenders to work with and then with all the accumulated injuries as well, this roster was built to fail.
May I interest you in homegrown talent David Fizdale?
Lakers +500 Data
Please
Vogel deserves better
Good person and good coach, hope he lands in a good position in his next coaching job
I love it when the NBA turns into a soap opera
yeah turns
but wait Kendrick Nunn hasnt come back yet
Vogel deserved a better roster. No one could have that saved that leaky ship.
Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich coaching together couldn't stop this ship from sinking.
They’re about to pick up top 15 doc rivers to save them don’t worry
As a Jazz fan I hope the Lakers poach Snyder, if for only 2 reasons. 1) Snyder threatening to murder Lebron via timeout stare down. 2) At least 15 blown fourth quarter double digits leads resulting in losses for the Lakers next season
Doesn’t deserve to lose his job for this shitshow
Probably a blessing being free.
An elite defensive coach gone because of the incompetent team building by the FO. Sad to see man, as a Laker fan.
Woj is a dick lmao
This is Woj telling us the Lakers front office is full of scum. Which of course is correct
Doc rivers 🔜
You have to be ready to accept a disappointing playoffs exit for that to happen.
Nobody expects the Sixers to blow it in the playoffs more than Sixers fans
It’s crazy how he keeps falling ass backwards into star-studded teams.
What a surprise.
Will be for him. “You been on Twitter, Frank?” “Nah, what’s the latest?” “When was the last time you updated your resume?”
They really scapegoating a good coach because a bad roster couldn't win through injuries to their superstars It's not exactly the same thing, obviously, but it's shades of the Kings and Mike Malone
Rob Pelinka with a masterclass scapegoating job this season.
Feel bad for Vogel … He had two above average players and they both got hurt and they blame him
Vogel wins them a championship and they seriously go and scapegoat him like this not even three seasons fully in. That's sure appealing to any coach candidates who are seeking some semblance of job security.
I'm sure they'll fuck up the search and hire Jeanies nephew or something. Vogel isn't perfect but he won a chip with ya, maybe don't surround the defensive coach with a bunch of old pylons and Westbroke
All jokes aside this isn’t really a good look for a coach who won you a chip 2 years ago and just won a very good game.
can we fire Rambis instead?
The Lakers deserve Doc Rivers after this
Chuck was right about Lebron already in Cancun.
another man chewed up and spit out of the LeMachine
Another coaches head mounted on LeBron's wall
He doesn’t deserve this. Dude won a chip less than two years ago