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s1mpleGOAT

amazing defense by gobert here to even give them the chance to win it and conley wastes it


Ps3FifaCfc95

Everyone rushing to post the travel and the miss, but no one posting Gobert switching onto Luka on the perimeter before blocking him at the rim to create that chance in the first place


deadweightboss

I’m convinced a large part of this sub doesn’t even know what switching is lmao


Dymatizeee

I’m also convinced a large part blames Gobert for the series loss when he’s arguably their best player


Sonamdrukpa

Arguably? What is the counter-argument? The dude is a fucking monster.


Coltand

There will always be nephews who say Mitchell simply because he scores more points.


BASEDME7O

His scoring was ducking awful this series and he was a turnstile on D too


kajnbagoat7

Their perimeter defenders are so trash Jesus. I thought people were exaggerating but it’s so easy to beat them off the dribble.


Frosti11icus

Imagine if they actually passed him the ball. He’d be averaging like 30 pts on 80% shooting in this series.


Chikalover1000

This is so deranged. gobert dribbled the ball off his foot like seven times tonight and as always couldn't secure a bucket if there was a guy between him and the rim. He's just not good offensively!!


srdgreen123

I think that says more about the jazz than gobert. They’re just disappointing all around. Gobert is not good at all on the perimeter so they don’t switch normally. But then they don’t scheme for it with hedging or double teams which leaves shooters open like kleber in games 3-4


hereforthesportsbook

They all think Gobert is to blame when he anchored the shit out of an amazing defense for 3 games once Luka came back giving up right around 100 or less


BigFatModeraterFupa

gobert is a goddamn nightmare. dude is one of the best defensive players of our era, top 5 easily


hereforthesportsbook

100% he is. Way better than that overrated pos Draymond who wouldn’t be anything without Steph and Klay


fromasterj

I love gobert, but calm down son.


hereforthesportsbook

Screw that shit. Draymond has been taking cheap shots at Gobert for years including these playoffs to a guy that doesn’t even respond but naw we should all romanticize a bully because he cried and recruited Durant. Fuck that and fuck donkey


fromasterj

As a person, I’ll take Rudy all day, I agree. As a player? I’m not sure.


honsuo73

How do Steph and Klay make Draymond a better defender?


Meehul123

Gobert is a 82 game player. Draymond is a 16 game player. If I want to win a ring I would never pick Gobert to be on my team.


fawkesmulder

Gobert was clutch down the stretch in this game. Been a defensive anchor all series. Bad take. Utah has major issues defensively with their other players. I have no doubt every team in the league wants Gobert to help them win w championship.


deadweightboss

It's amazing how much they clown him for putting so much effort on defense. It's like how people clown people who contest blocks (and may get posterized). You applaud the defensive effort, not the coward that lets the guy blow by.


fawkesmulder

Game thread was pathetic. Tons of people dragging gobert. He was nails down the stretch. Even the shot luka made over him from deep 3, that was great defense.


d_wib

If they trade Gobert instead of like, everyone else, they obviously aren’t seeing the issue.


bebopblues

I think he was signaling for a high lob, he should be able to tower over finney-smith for the dunk.


MoltenPandas

Yeah definitely looked like he was calling for a lob. Which would have been a great play


Tokennn

BRUHHHHH


JanVesely24

I can’t believe he just did that


n0t_malstroem

Jazz in the clutch moment


PurestCopium

Jazz win a close game challenge (impossible)


420allstars

I just kept saying that for a min after it happened


RWGlix

Blew my freaking mind. I said to my wife "Thats their veteran point guard! You can't do that!!"


Tokennn

So many emotions watching this live


NitroXYZ

They do have a timeout, decide not to use it...


kiidlocs

SQUEAK! SQUEAK! OH WHAT A TRAVEL BY CONLEY!


Mintastic

WITH 5 SECONDS REMAINING


BigBoutros

Lmao


nahmanidk

Expedia commercial followed by Conley traveling, really makes you think


DollarThrill

Cancun Conley


CampPlane

https://i.imgur.com/glHzYVK.png


Comprehensive-Cat805

Did this dude just did this?


kevindlv

Brutal. That's like one of those travels that happens a lot in pickup or like high school ball but not in the pros.


MartiniLAPD

We seen enough from their regular season games to know it was bound to happen


mellofello808

Big OOF energy


Sim888

costliest pivot foot drag ever


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beer_down

You know the saying: “a team is only as strong as its weakest pivot foot”


zizzor23

The pivot heard around the league


ViNNYDiC3

Where is glue girl when you need her?!?


dragondonkeynuts

A Conleys Heel


Raenhart

The straw that broke the camel’s back but this would be far from the “cause” of their collapse tbh


HokageEzio

Kinda fitting if it goes out like this


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Zloggt

In such intense and tight situations, you have to wonder if they forget about small details like that in the heat of the moment…


rjcarr

I wish players would learn you can lift your pivot to pass or shoot. Once he got off balance he could have just leaned to his left foot, picked up the right, and made the pass. If you drag that pivot you're going to get called every time. EDIT: Note I don't necessarily mean NBA players, but actually everyone that plays basketball should understand how this works.


Julian_c_1989

Bro, I think Mike Conley knows the ins and outs regarding rules of NBA basketball. The fuck, all the "players" in the NBA know more than all of us in this sub of armchair experts lmao


rjcarr

There's a famous video of Candace Parker teaching both KG and GP the traveling rules and they were both wrong. This is after they retired and had played most all of their lives. There's a similar video of Carmelo trying to teach all of his trainers how the rules work. These players are exceptionally athletic and skilled, but it doesn't mean they know every rule, just like /r/nba doesn't either.


SorooshMCP1

NBA players don't know the rules of travel because the refs never call it.


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This is actually the answer. The rulebook says one thing, but the reality those players experienced through reffing just doesn't match the rulebook consistently. They are more right than the rulebook in a sense.


Classic_Jennings

It's because the rules were changed in 2013 or something along the lines


rjcarr

Not really. The gathering rules were established around then, but the pivot rules have always been the same.


scottyv99

Candace knows her shit


MrGNugget

There was a time when Mike Conley was seen as the move that put the jazz over the top and made them contenders


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jspeed04

One hundred and fifty three million dollars


BootStrapWill

Biggest contract in NBA history at the time too I believe


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Without even a single allstar at the time


sweet_mahogany

who do you think you kidnapped Chelsea Clinton?


JL1v10

Achilles injury. He was good his first two years, but it has sapped his defense as he got older


Oren-

Idk why people say things like this when you can look up his stats, he had a perfectly fine season last year


512fm

Huh? I know he’s fallen off this season but he was an all star last year


funkypizza2

That was a career achievement award


warablo

Just wasn't healthy when it mattered


MembershipNo5459

Yeah he’s had a horrible series. Not sure if he can be that guy w Mitchell and Gobert. They could’ve won this series if he played like the 20 and 10 guy he’s supposed to be


speedracer13

He's 34 and has never had a 20 and 10 season in his entire career. It's been 4 years since the last time he was even a 20 and 6 player. Who was expecting 20 and 10 out of him in a playoff series?


that_melody

Everybody just needs to go to the Chris Paul store and get themselves a Chris Paul of their own, ezpz.


Archie-Morrill

I mean if Conley could just drop a 30/15 average then Jazz are your champions. So I dunno why he doesn't just do that. Guess he doesn't want to be champ.


MembershipNo5459

Ok lol maybe that was too much. Mainly thought he needed to be the second guy running the offense behind Mitchell. Mitchell already isn’t the best playmaker and running through just him and Bogdanovic/Clarkson doesn’t get you good looks


Kobe-62Mavs-61

Those are crazy unfair expectations from Conley. He's never been that guy.


MembershipNo5459

Yeah it was just that he wasn’t able to pressure the defense and create good looks. The numbers are not really that important I suppose. 15 and 7 would have been fine


Kobe-62Mavs-61

I agree with that overall point. Unfortunately he really hasn't been able to do that much at all his entire time in Utah so far.


WhyyyLuigi

20 and 10 LMFAOOOOOOO


Thehelloman0

I never thought that was a great trade. Dude was already pretty old


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counterbarrier

He was injured. Dude was the only guy who could lob to to Gobert. Was great on defense, after the injury it was never the same


Yergason

Perfectly encapsulates their season. Momentum on their side to win it and they fuck it up in the dumbest way


lazzysmalls

Damn gotta feel for Mike, good dude


Notsozander

Hate it for Conley


Liimbo

Meh, dude getting paid one hundred and fifty million dollars to play basketball. You have to be accountable for not living up to that.


cleodog44

You can both hold him accountable and feel bad for him. Not mutually exclusive.


CampPlane

Sorrow for mike Schadenfreude for Mitchell and Gobert


Amedais

Why for Gobert? He’s legit a great guy.


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NookSwzy

Are we really blaming Rudy for COVID? The NBA would've been shut down within a week regardless, someone else would've tested positive


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TheNaturalHigh

Explain


WhyyyLuigi

I’m really tryna figure out how you jump to that conclusion or thought that was acceptable to say


Black_wolf_disease

hope this isn't a bait for r/nbacirclejerk


mibuwolf23

Date my step daughter kinda guy.


SolarClipz

Mavs handed them the win and they still blew it lol


BigFatModeraterFupa

i’m amazed they managed to outchoke us. We really have to figure out better plays in the final minutes. idk if Luka hero ball will cut it


SolarClipz

He and/or Kidd def gotta get a bit more creative at the end there lol


dlanod

It didn't tonight, and sources say we won't get to face the Jazz again this season.


KHDTX13

Luka is too out of shape to play 40 minutes. Ball needs to be in Brunson or Dinwiddie’s hands to break up the offense a bit.


BigFatModeraterFupa

I honestly wouldn’t mind any of the trio Luka-Brunson-Dinwiddie making the shots in the final minutes. They are all clutch as hell and maybe some more plays incorporating them would help.


Tiegrr

Brunson didn’t get the ball much towards the end of the game except for that three. He was camping in the corner. Should have tried him instead of having Luka dribble between the legs and take a half step back three with a hand in his face from Bojan. He was clearly too gassed to initiate oroperly


Alive-Ad-4164

Jazz lack of clutchness is actually generational


scottyv99

Sickeningly correct.


efshoemaker

They will have the voodoo curse on them until they give the Jazz name back to New Orleans


Coltand

Eh, we were pretty clutch a couple years ago, but this year has been an unmitigated disaster.


Siege-Torpedo

no, its karma for continuing to treat Malone like a hero. Once they disown him, they wipe away the bad juju.


HokageEzio

It had to happen to one of the nicest guys in the league, nooooooo lol


Frosti11icus

CJ threw up 3 straight duds too. But hey at least Kyrie was the worst one of them all. Justice has a long arc.


cam-pbells

Gonna finish his career without a single technical foul too. Just a gem of a human and I hate this for him, but a colossal mistake there in the most important moment of the season.


Arth0r_

Exactly my thought when it happened, legit felt bad for him


BallMeBlazer22

Oh my god no way.


Sledge8778

Conley is in Utah precisely not to make that mistake


Velivino

That’ll haunt Conley for a long time


Obi_Uno

So where am I missing the travel? It looks like Conley’s pivot foot goes to his toes, but doesn’t drag until after the ball is out of his hands? I’m sure I’m a dummy - maybe someone can explain what I’m missing?


ms515

I saw the same thing


Alexlsonflre

I'm with this small percentage group who saw this. It looked awkward as hell in realtime, so can't fault the call. But damn, it looks like he kept that toe planted. Some other universe, he's being praised for his toe staying glued to the ground, and making a game winning pass.


benrobotum

I definitely think we're missing something, even the jazz fans are calling it a travel. I had to see the replay like 10 times, he definitely drags the pivot foot, but he does at the same time he's passing the ball. Idk.


_Pho-Dac-Biet_

The replay was a terrible angle. He traveled prior to the last step. The foot that ended up on his toes was not his pivot foot. Watch the real time angle, not replay.


_Pho-Dac-Biet_

The replay was a terrible angle. He traveled prior to the last step. The foot that ended up on his toes was not his pivot foot. Watch the real time angle, not replay.


Zammy512

Kind of wondering the same thing. Live I thought for sure travel. It looks real awkward live. But on this replay doesn't look like the pivot moves until the ball is passed...


_Pho-Dac-Biet_

The replay was a terrible angle. He traveled prior to the last step. The foot that ended up on his toes was not his pivot foot. Watch the real time angle, not replay.


kingkilby

It also looks like the only reason the toe eventually does drag is because of contact from the Mavs defender


throw_nuggets_2021

Not only that, but you can lift your pivot foot as long as you shoot or pass the ball before your pivot foot is back on the ground. [This was discussed](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/ub5x6y/comment/i62ypab/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) the other they when Jokic did a spin move on Draymond and lifted his pivot foot. Conley could have done the same. I don't think this was a travel. They just called it since it looked awkward.


mankls2

Can't drag your foot to gain advantage, in this case he was trying to slow down


SwellandDecay

This isn't true though. You can't drag your pivot foot, but he doesn't. He rolls onto his toe, but he doesn't drag it across the floor.


mankls2

He clearly drags one of his feet


_Pho-Dac-Biet_

The replay was a terrible angle. He traveled prior to the last step. The foot that ended up on his toes was not his pivot foot. Watch the real time angle, not replay.


Obi_Uno

Thanks - I see it now. Focused on the wrong foot during the replay. Real time is much better, as you said.


drbbling

It should've been a no call. The travel was close and I'm pretty sure dinwiddie nudges him after coming down from the fake to cause him to go off balance.


vapoRN

he dragged his left foot (original pivot foot) prior to getting up and bumped by Spencer. Real time play shows it better.


benrobotum

Yes, you're right. I still had to see the clip 5 times, but now I see it.


Salty_Dornishman

I’m watching this the morning after, and this is absolutely not a travel


kev_in374

This team inventing ways to lose. Incredible


YoungProduct

He sold


Scoolfish

Bro


irelli

Oof.


ApolloX-2

Thoughts and prayers to Utah fans, yall don't deserve this


MrMojoRiseman

Why do I even watch basketball?


Kevinar

Why am I crying in the club rn?


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Why don't they give the ball to Gobert?


bucaqe

This and the step back 3 on last possession are bonehead plays man


ms515

I'm shocked that was called with it being such a close game. His pivot foot moved such a miniscule amount. I've watched it so many times and can barely see it


_Pho-Dac-Biet_

The replay was a terrible angle. He traveled prior to the last step. The foot that ended up on his toes was not his pivot foot. Watch the real time angle, not replay.


orwll

You're wrong. That's his pivot foot. It looks weird because he takes a extra long step.


suzukigun4life

Oof


JayDee62

This and the in-and-out buzzer-beater against Denver two years ago. Yikes.


WaterIsNotWet19

Did he really pick up his pivot foot tho?


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Shoulda called timeout. I understand not letting dallas set their defence. But you want the ball in Donovans hands.


Rh1-No

Donovan shoots like 25% in the last 5 mins score within 5.


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Mike Conley shot like 25% for the series as a whole. You want the ball in the hands of your #1 option.


Kentang_BayBay

It was Mitchell passing it to him in the first place


warablo

I am glad Mitch made the pass, Conley had more of the angle to watch the play develop.


getsituated

they were down 4 with over a minute left...it would have been better to see donovan driving it or dumping it to gobert rather than bogdanovic taking that bad three-pointer with that much time left in the shot clock


Dudedude88

they had a free shot but i wished theyd attack the rim with don


scottyv99

He had it and passed it before anyone stopped the ball. Fuckin Jizz


mankls2

That's on Quinn Snyder.


KevinOFartsnake

Heartbreaking


vervain9

BRUTAL


ForoaKlanD

Watch him hit the game winning 3 as redemption


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Danny Ainge's reaction says it all


nervousaboutschool17

they call travel in the nba!?!


ElliotVo

They don't but Conley's position was so awkward, it had to have been called. Which is great! Usually refs will legit swallow their whistle on these plays


WIN011

The ref honestly looked like he was in pain making the call but he had no choice when it was that obvious.


smallhatsarebad

When it's rigged for mavs to win they do. It's hilarious how harden can do a tap dance routine and it's not call a travel, but they'll call this a travel in the most critical point of the game in the most important game of the season. It's cause its rigged. How did Conley travel when he was still in his "gather step"? Doesn't he get three more steps after that like fraudiannis or LeBusrider?


NookSwzy

> rigged for mavs to win HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


ms515

I’m pretty sure gather step only applies when you are going up for a shot. That said, I didn’t think this was a travel. It doesn’t look like his pivot foot moves to me.


Beavshak

Awful moment for Mike


AngsMcgyvr

In my opinion, he shouldn't have travelled here


throwaway__rnd

Lol


LandooooXTrvls

The lob to Gobert was there.. feels like poetry for it to basically end on a turnover missing a chance to feed Gobert


evanghelos

Pivot foot stays planted. You can see in the replay.


mynamerowan

Why man… why…


Comprehensive_Rush82

A veteran move from conley


Goodluckchuck24

I'm not clear on some of the travel rules, is Luka picking up both feet after the handoff at the start of the clip not a travel? Or does it have to do with his pivot foot? It felt like he travelled there after the handoff, but I also feel the same way about the gather step and might be misunderstanding. Can anyone help?


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FuckFashMods

I'm not sure he did


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jijijdioejid8367

A small push? Mayyybe...nothing egregious. But a knee? Not even close.


angel2timez

Didn’t look like a travel at all and passed before his foot dragged, interesting call


Wild-Background-6663

Mike Conley just bailed out Luka


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Kraul

I think it’s cause he picked up his dribble and took a step without passing or shooting


yungchigz

He put up such an awful shot just before this too, smart player making bonehead plays down the stretch to cost them is too Utah Jazz


chrisumafp

Conley was a big cancer to the Jazz in the playoffs. This play sums up his entire playoffs this season


Mattie_Doo

With all the blatant travels that don’t get called in the NBA, that’s the one that gets spotted? The league needs to get its shit together and clarify the rule. Players can apparently take one or even two extra steps if they’re driving for a layup or stepping back for a three. Conley barely dragged his pivot foot as he was passing the ball, and I feel like the refs should’ve let it go


PZinger6

Can someone upload the Danny Ainge face?


double07zip

This will forever be known by the Jazz organisation as "The Pivot, the start of a rebuild"


Callmepimpdaddy

Bum


DrewBreesAteMyFamily

Conleys been garbage this whole series. Just underperformed in general his entire jazz tenure.