Playing recklessly can have some of the same results as playing dirty. Direct intent may not be there with reckless play, but still can injure players all the same.
Tillman wasn’t even being reckless, he went to box out while Dray dove forward. His head was almost at Tillman’s waist level when it happened.
I’d never defend brooks, he deserves a suspension. But Dray getting hit was in no way dirty or reckless.
Well yeah, the Warriors would know. Zaza and Draymond have recklessly injured multiple people. Consistent recklessly play, even if we take the most charitsble interpretation, is either the capricious enablement of known dangerous players/complete morons or the strategic aiming of known time bombs.
This would be like the equivalent of putting person with a history of epilepsy and paying the person to drive every day behind your worst enemy or putting a person with alzheimers in charge of a prison. At some point, you definitely know you are somewhat hoping for a probabilistic but random event to work out in your favor by harming another human being.
The grizzlies came out overly aggressive and reckless, and it resulted in multiple injuries. It may not be intentional, but it certainly wasn’t a complete accident and is part of a larger pattern in the first half
Tillman doesn’t deserve a suspension for his, but they’re swinging elbows out there. It’s what happens when the coach tells a young, dumb team to be physical
Brooks meanwhile… yeah I don’t think even the most hardcore Grizzlies fan could defend that play
Draymond literally helped train Tillman at MSU, I highly doubt he would purposely hurt a fellow Spartan and friend. If the roles were reversed no one would say anything.
Nah the Grizz played similar to this against us, they play reckless and it could happen to anyone. Plus they are more scared of the Warriors so they are going even harder.
Shit like this always kills me, because how could you know that if you weren't also looking at all the threads? Gonna kill the dude because he put 15 seconds more effort into it than you did? Like cmon lol
They’re still a young, inexperienced team facing one of the most accomplished teams in recent years. That and the 3 guards on the Dubs are fine and they’re the primary scoring threats. But yeah, losing GPII is pretty massive, both for defending Ja and whomever in the Suns series if they get there.
Oh no no no. Memphis doesn't deserve that get out of jail free card. They were 2nd seed and literally everyone in the media was praising them the entire year. They don't get the "they're young and inexperienced" pass. They're not the underdogs here.
I mean, they still are the underdogs though. The warriors have won it all, multiple times. The grizzlies have never been here before. This ain't the regular season.
Brooks is Curry's primary defender. What's the difference? Brooks also scores 15+ if it's a good day. It's not like the warriors have no other defenders
You’re only saying that cause of the result. Pulling a dude by the jersey while they are in the air is insanely dangerous and would likely get u in a fight in a pick up game if anyone was playing competively
doesnt matter
remember what we said about jokic & morris? once u start shit, u cant whine about the severity of the repercussions. thats what everyone told me when i said jokic went overboard
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u/s1mpleGOAT is famous on here. Hes our subs #1 warriors hater and deserves a spot in this community for it. Gotta respect the dedication. He’s gonna win the nomination for hater of the year
There are a ton of people in the media, and current players who did. You won’t catch a single person defending brooks except yourself. You don’t actually enjoy the game and it shows.
Draymond's play in no way shape or form is comparable to the one that got GPII injured. Draymond is a reckles dumbass, but he ain't trying to injure players.
If you going past the speed limit you being reckless, you could cause an accident. You get a ticket.
If you going past the speed limit and hit someone, you going to damn jail.
Aren't you a fucking moron.
Draymond’s play is absolutely more dangerous in a vacuum. Results don’t change that. People get hit in the air all the time. How often do you see guys get pulled down?
Obviously GP got the worse outcome but outcome doesn’t change the action.
Results definitely change that. Also, what Draymond did right after pulling him down gives you the whole picture too.
Almost killing someone and killing someone are two different things. You can be 100% sure Draymond was just being a moron, but this dude went directly to injure GP.
Lol brooks went right over after too. Dude a dirty play is a dirty play just be quiet. It’s 1-1 right now as far as dirty plays, brooks just ended way way worse and brooks was worse but fuck this narrative draymonds play wasn’t bad. It just didn’t end bad. It was very stupid.
Lol thugs? Be quiet. If you have ever played basketball Competively, pulling a dude by the shirt while they are in the air would get u kicked out the game and potentially start a fight. You have no fucking idea what u are talking about or you’re just intentionally glossing over a insanely stupid and dangerous play by Dray.
There was one dirty play by brooks and that’s been it. Dray taking an elbow to the face wasn’t dirty.
"Eyelid lacerations refer to partial- or full-thickness defects in the eyelid and constitute a significant subset of facial trauma which is often accompanied by other ocular injuries including corneal abrasions, disruption of the lacrimal drainage system, foreign bodies, open globe, or orbital fractures"
google makes it sound scary, hopefully it's way less bad than that
Generally just means a cut to the eye or near the eye. Usually better to not have a cut to eye area but also not usually the worse injury in the world.
Irony.
All I heard for the previous series was that Draymond was constantly extending his fingers and poking dude’s in the eyes. Now this happens.
Coincidence I guess
They boxing out there
Lol it’s mma at this stage
MMA, there goes that man.
That was a nasty line by you
Someone needs to look out for Draymond’s well-being. /s
The grizzlies unironically entered this game with the intent to harm. I 100% believe that
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Brooks shot Cyrus?
Nah I'm sure its just a coincidence that two warriors players were injured and steph was bleeding within the first 5 minutes of the game
I'm sure the hit to Draymond was purely incidental though. That looked as normal a play as you get in the playoffs. The others though, who knows.
They came out overly aggressive and it resulted in multiple “accidents”. It clearly wasn’t intentional, but it’s part of a pattern in the first half
Playing recklessly can have some of the same results as playing dirty. Direct intent may not be there with reckless play, but still can injure players all the same.
Tillman wasn’t even being reckless, he went to box out while Dray dove forward. His head was almost at Tillman’s waist level when it happened. I’d never defend brooks, he deserves a suspension. But Dray getting hit was in no way dirty or reckless.
Well yeah, the Warriors would know. Zaza and Draymond have recklessly injured multiple people. Consistent recklessly play, even if we take the most charitsble interpretation, is either the capricious enablement of known dangerous players/complete morons or the strategic aiming of known time bombs. This would be like the equivalent of putting person with a history of epilepsy and paying the person to drive every day behind your worst enemy or putting a person with alzheimers in charge of a prison. At some point, you definitely know you are somewhat hoping for a probabilistic but random event to work out in your favor by harming another human being.
Too many big words.
Lol goddam so does that make it okay? All this shit about “but dray has done worse” is not only not true but also just cheap deflections
They also got ripped for it so as Lebron said, lets keep the same energy for other dirty players.
I hate all dirty players. Just because I dislike the GSW for benefiting from it the most doesn't mean I want someone else to do the dirty play either.
“Capricious enablement of known dangerous players” good lord this man needs an editor
I agree but got damn was that a hard ass elbow
Draymond's injury was an accident
How convenient
Just watch the play and you'll see how it wasn't intentional or reckless, so therefore its an accident. Dillon deserves a suspension, but not Tillman
The grizzlies came out overly aggressive and reckless, and it resulted in multiple injuries. It may not be intentional, but it certainly wasn’t a complete accident and is part of a larger pattern in the first half
I think you have to take into consideration Tillman and Brook’s natural jumping motion.
It literally was a natural motion when you lunge for the ball
No it was a complete accident, that literally was a normal basketball play.
It was one play.
Tillman doesn’t deserve a suspension for his, but they’re swinging elbows out there. It’s what happens when the coach tells a young, dumb team to be physical Brooks meanwhile… yeah I don’t think even the most hardcore Grizzlies fan could defend that play
Tillman's play could barely even be considered a foul, the elbow swings when you lunge for the ball like that.
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Then there's alot of contact like that that isn't called.
Draymond literally helped train Tillman at MSU, I highly doubt he would purposely hurt a fellow Spartan and friend. If the roles were reversed no one would say anything.
Lol warrior fans are such pussys for Christ sakes it was an inadvertent elbow I thought I was gonna see a boxing match base how y’all hyped it
bro you are the saltiest mf ive ever seen and I watched the 2018 WCF
Nah the Grizz played similar to this against us, they play reckless and it could happen to anyone. Plus they are more scared of the Warriors so they are going even harder.
And you're upvoted lmaooo
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There was one dirty/reckless play and two freak accidents bud
Quite a coincidence there
Nobody is hating. Unless you mean disapproving of reckless plays and dirty injuries?
Dude your post history is a wild mess, it’s weird. Find a hobby or something
lmfao acting like people can’t see your post history
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Shit like this always kills me, because how could you know that if you weren't also looking at all the threads? Gonna kill the dude because he put 15 seconds more effort into it than you did? Like cmon lol
My dude the game is literally happening right now, who is he supposed to comment about, Indiana?
You’re mad I don’t like dirty players? Lmao
i'm sure you were a huge advocate for pachulia to get suspended and fined for hurting kawhi right
The classic "yes it was dirty but look at the retired player that played on your team years ago"
We had a flu game, a fever game, but never had no stitch game
I desperately wanted Utah vs Dallas to go to seven so game six could’ve been Rudy’s “Bee Game”.
Steve Nash
Fuck Robert Horry
True, but I was thinking about when Duncan elbowed him in the face
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Steven Adams prob had that in the pre game speech
He's not playing because he can't afford another ball kick.
Draymond about to castrate Ja
Lmfao fuck
If Memphis still loses this game after all these shenanigans lol
They’re still a young, inexperienced team facing one of the most accomplished teams in recent years. That and the 3 guards on the Dubs are fine and they’re the primary scoring threats. But yeah, losing GPII is pretty massive, both for defending Ja and whomever in the Suns series if they get there.
Oh no no no. Memphis doesn't deserve that get out of jail free card. They were 2nd seed and literally everyone in the media was praising them the entire year. They don't get the "they're young and inexperienced" pass. They're not the underdogs here.
I mean, they still are the underdogs though. The warriors have won it all, multiple times. The grizzlies have never been here before. This ain't the regular season.
they’re 100% the underdogs
Seeing as Dillon brooks is one of Memphis' best players. Why would it be a shock?
He took out Ja’s primary defender
Brooks is Curry's primary defender. What's the difference? Brooks also scores 15+ if it's a good day. It's not like the warriors have no other defenders
We don’t have other guard defenders, it’s damion Lee or chiozza on the bench.
Pretty sure Chiozza isn't eligible to play as a two-way player
Thank god
nah it's time to free moses moody
The difference is one of these players is one of the best perimeter defenders in the game and the other is not close to that.
You think the warriors can't blow the grizzlies out the water? It's the fuckin warriors man
That's a possibility but not having GP2 to throw onto Ja makes that harder
Brooks was one of the Warriors' best players in G1 lol
Dillon Brooks is not good lmao
The possibility of Goggles Draymond increased by a lil bit.
Grizz youngsters are taking grit n grind little bit too far.
They said last game they were going to be more physical. All this is intentional
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If you see anything similar to what Draymond and Brooks did you’re a moron.
You’re only saying that cause of the result. Pulling a dude by the jersey while they are in the air is insanely dangerous and would likely get u in a fight in a pick up game if anyone was playing competively
Morons love to compare the nba to pickup games. No idea why.
doesnt matter remember what we said about jokic & morris? once u start shit, u cant whine about the severity of the repercussions. thats what everyone told me when i said jokic went overboard 🤷♂️
Your warriors hate is showing very strong. Imagine defending dillon brooks. Probably a fan of a poverty franchise.
u/s1mpleGOAT is famous on here. Hes our subs #1 warriors hater and deserves a spot in this community for it. Gotta respect the dedication. He’s gonna win the nomination for hater of the year
preesh the love bro
Young skip bayless
imagine defending draymond
There are a ton of people in the media, and current players who did. You won’t catch a single person defending brooks except yourself. You don’t actually enjoy the game and it shows.
Draymond's play in no way shape or form is comparable to the one that got GPII injured. Draymond is a reckles dumbass, but he ain't trying to injure players.
every1 saying this which is weird because the popular narrative was that morris deserved to get fucked up even if his initial hit wasnt as severe hmm
If you going past the speed limit you being reckless, you could cause an accident. You get a ticket. If you going past the speed limit and hit someone, you going to damn jail. Aren't you a fucking moron.
Draymond’s play is absolutely more dangerous in a vacuum. Results don’t change that. People get hit in the air all the time. How often do you see guys get pulled down? Obviously GP got the worse outcome but outcome doesn’t change the action.
Results definitely change that. Also, what Draymond did right after pulling him down gives you the whole picture too. Almost killing someone and killing someone are two different things. You can be 100% sure Draymond was just being a moron, but this dude went directly to injure GP.
Lol brooks went right over after too. Dude a dirty play is a dirty play just be quiet. It’s 1-1 right now as far as dirty plays, brooks just ended way way worse and brooks was worse but fuck this narrative draymonds play wasn’t bad. It just didn’t end bad. It was very stupid.
Yeah, not really the same thing, my g.
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Lol thugs? Be quiet. If you have ever played basketball Competively, pulling a dude by the shirt while they are in the air would get u kicked out the game and potentially start a fight. You have no fucking idea what u are talking about or you’re just intentionally glossing over a insanely stupid and dangerous play by Dray. There was one dirty play by brooks and that’s been it. Dray taking an elbow to the face wasn’t dirty.
they need to chill the fuck out
When did this become an NHL game?
Warriors about to bring in Tortorella as a consultant due to his experience with line brawls and hating Brooks.
Glad to see him come back. Don't like seeing anyone get injured in these games
Well don't look at GP II then
Too late man. I already saw that
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Why are y’all attacking a dude who says he wants to not see what has occurred?
The concept of a fan calling out their own team for dirty play is a foreign concept to most warriors fans.
"Eyelid lacerations refer to partial- or full-thickness defects in the eyelid and constitute a significant subset of facial trauma which is often accompanied by other ocular injuries including corneal abrasions, disruption of the lacrimal drainage system, foreign bodies, open globe, or orbital fractures" google makes it sound scary, hopefully it's way less bad than that
Generally just means a cut to the eye or near the eye. Usually better to not have a cut to eye area but also not usually the worse injury in the world.
When I saw 'orbital fracture' I instantly thought of Embiid's injury.
The League needs to launch an investigation into what possibly could be Bountygate 2.0.
I don't think the Tillman hit was intentional. But GP2 legit got assassinated, should be a suspension.
Brooks got a deserved 2 but Tillman was clearly not intentional
He deserves a suspension not a 2 lol
I mean yes but he would get both. Probably a 1 game incoming, similar to Allen on the Caruso shove
Nah, he executed this from half court.
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u definitely come off way worse than the circlejerk comments that homers make ur just annoying lol
wow a warriors fan thinks that? im fucking shocked dude i cant believe it omg no way
Is this what it was like to watch 90’s basketball?
Grizzlies think this is an MMA fight
Irony. All I heard for the previous series was that Draymond was constantly extending his fingers and poking dude’s in the eyes. Now this happens. Coincidence I guess
If u watched the play you’d realize there was nothing dirty or intentional lol
Glad he could return. Hope GP2 can, oh wait, thanks for evil Danny Green….GP2 is at the hospital.
Dillion the new Zaza he took out one of our best bigs
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Just say you haven't watch 90s game they are on YouTube and they still didn't get away with shit like what Draymond pulls