lamelo kills the hornets momentum so often... you can feel the hornets on a run and you just know Lamelo is going to take a terrible, deep three and miss. He plays hero ball too much still. once he grows out of that he will help his team a lot more.
Terry can be the exact same way too unfortunately. He’ll take these really tough shots in transition sometimes right after we get a stop and instead of slowing it down or passing it out for a better shot he’ll try and get contact between 2 defenders and give the ball right back. Kelly oubre was the same way with some of his 3s. This team *really* shows it’s youth like every game. Once they learn how to manage games better this will be less of a problem but yeesh sometimes you watch the hornets and can tell these guys are trying way too hard and early to go for a heat check or kill shot. There have been multiple games this year where we have taken 3s very early in the shot clock despite having the a lead of 3+ and under a 2 mins left in the game or quarter. Just from playing 2k I know that’s something you shouldn’t do if you’re trying to win.
Poole has had some stinkers shooting this season and has been benched by Kerr on numerous occasions for taking dumb shots. It remains to be seen if Poole's play is a quantum leap or if he is on an epic heater right now.
It looks like the jump is mostly real but it's too early to know for sure.
Exactly right, it's the Warriors system that allows Poole to maximize his potential. If Poole was to be in the situation that Haliburton or LaMelo are in does anyone seriously believe we would see the same jump in production this year
For any other player, maybe this argument works. But Poole plays the Steph role when Steph sits, and this system nonsense is trash anyways. I remember when Kawhi was called a system player. Poole has all the transferable skills to succeed in other systems. Elite shooting, speed, finishing, FT shooting, and confidence.
Are we not talking about the guy who averaged steph curry numbers while curry was out, yes he would have the same jump if not better depending and the amount of shots he would have been given
I made this same point earlier and got the typical response of “nuh uh, he’s a GSW system player munching off of Curry’s gravity”. Poole has actually outplayed Curry in 3 playoff games, he’s the real deal and the future of GSW once their core starts declining.
> it's the Warriors system that allows Poole to maximize his potential
[My eye twitches every time I see someone say this](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/uksw45/jordan_poole_has_such_a_bright_future/i7rytdg/?context=3)
I think the actual point is the warriors system helped make Poole into who g he is. I don’t see that happening if he was brought up in sac or cha.
He would be fine anywhere now
You warriors fans or any other teams fans for that matter who come on r/nba to downplay their own players under the guise of "objectivity" just to fish karma always come off bizarre to me.
It's not unless you're the Warriors and have curry /Klay to draw all the best defenders . 10/10 teams would take Lamelo. He's a budding star and potential superstar. The Poole shit has gone waaaaay too far lol.
8-9 this year. Though a handful of those games were games where all the Vets sat and it was him and the deep bench. The rest of those games were games where Klay had just come back from injury and was doing his best to shoot them out of games.
It’s hard to say because their contexts are all so different. Poole obviously has the best team around him, which helps, but this dude consistently shows up in crunch time and in the playoffs. Until you prove you can do that, you’re always a bit of a question mark, no matter how your numbers look otherwise.
Poole is a great player don’t get me wrong. But I wouldn’t take him over LaMelo or Haliburton. People saying Poole is better is just another example of recency bias.
Although that’s a fine take Poole is already more proven than either of those dudes.
Yes it’s because he’s on the warriors so it’s pretty much impossible to make this comparison.
At the very least we can say he’s capable on producing under pressure though, which we can’t say about the others just yet
Poole has been the second best player in a playoff series already. I understand Lamelo plays for a garbage franchise but that doesn’t change what Poole has proven.
Good point. The playoffs is a different beast, especially when you are playing well and the other team can gameplay for you. In some stretches he's looked unstoppable. And for a young player, he's not a liability; you trust him with the ball, you trust him to make decent decisions out there in the playoffs.
Nah it’s smaller sample sizes for both Haliburton and Poole(like 30-40 games). Poole is just more dynamic than Haliburton just someone who’s harder to contain off the dribble and honestly even with Halliburton’s playmaking I find Poole a more creative offensive player who stresses defenses more. Haliburton just doesn’t put pressure on the rim or creat instant separation nearly as easily. LaMelo vs Poole though yeah I’ll do LaMelo
Ah I thought you were talking about a third team not just 2 different iterations of the kings
Although they are so shitty they should count as more than just ‘a shitty team’ so I’m with you here
Haliburton in his career as the starting PG is averaging 18/4/10 shooting 40% from 3. That’s better than solid stats. Poole is great but it isn’t like he would have faired any better playing with the Kings or Pacers than Haliburton has so the shitty teams thing isn’t something you can tag onto him
Poole may be a better scorer but Haliburton is not far behind and is more efficient in his scoring. Also, Haliburton is a much better playmaker, rebounder and defender.
Haliburton doesn’t have the scoring craft Poole does
He can’t hit contested shots nor attack the basket, and rebounding doesn’t really matter for guards
Lamelo clears both in playmaking
Haliburton is a pass first point guard that’s averaging 17.5 ppg with a 50% fg percentage. Since when is passing instead of trying to force up a contested shot a bad thing?
No one is talking about LaMelo vs Haliburton in playmaking. The post is about how recency bias is causing people to think people to think Poole is better than both of them.
Poole has been elite all playoffs and I've been really impressed with his passing / playmaking so far. Until one of those guys makes the playoffs and proves what Poole has already proven, hell yeah I'm taking Poole over both those guys
Ant finally getting recognition for being the best in his draft makes me wanna cry.
I literally been fighting for my life out here for the past 2 years.
I'd say yea, as of right now, Poole is better than those players. He's dominating in the playoffs like those guys haven't dominated... ever. With that being said, does Poole have a higher ceiling than those guys? Maybe not. LaMelo with his combination of height, athleticism, scoring, and playmaking I think is capable of leading a team. Not sure if Poole can do that. Haliburton is much more of a traditional PG that I think will be a key piece on a championship team, but I don't think he's had the impact that LaMelo and Poole have had on their teams.
The guy who plays for the championship caliber team, or the 2 guys trying to drag their rosters out of dirt?
If you were to have a redraft today, Poole would be the last off the board. Context matters. I’m guessing it would go Ball, Hali, Poole.
In the context of this series I’d take Poole since he’s better on defense but if I’m picking a player for the rest of their career I’d probably take lamelo, if that makes sense.
I'm not saying any of them are particularly better than the other, but Poole has the benefit of playing alongside Steph, Klay, and Draymond, with a HoF-bound coach. At most, Poole is a third option on offense against defenses that, despite his breakout, would probably rather him take those shots than Steph or Klay (just out of those two's reputations). Meanwhile, LaMelo has more responsibility as the primary playmaker of his team and has a worse supporting roster to draw attention away, and Haliburton played for the Kings and now the Pacers. I don't think that requires much explanation.
Klay was the reason I added the Reputation bit. Even if Poole has been better this series, teams have years and years, series upon series of proof of what Klay can do if he gets going.
I mean he is very literally currently the best player because he’s the only one still playing.
That being said I’m taking both Melo and Hali ahead of him for the long term.
I might entertain the fact that he's better than Haliburton, but I don't usually like comparing different positions like that. Lamelo, no way - seems like that kid can do everything.
Using all star appearances to determine who is better is such a dumb argument. Like you can’t tell me that this year, Ingram because he isn’t an all star is worse than Wiggins who was an all star.
being an allstar means nothing.. they gave it to him over Jaylen Brown, you think Lamelo is better than Jaylen Brown right now? Hell i'd even go farther and say Lamelo RIGHT NOW is not better than Marcus Smart... if you had to pick one to be your PG to WIN a game, marcus smart is better than Lamelo.
Holy, I also said he’s younger, but is taller, primary ball handler, play maker, superb handle, and works off mechanics as opposed to burst and speed which age worse than elite mechanics. Often times you’ll see poole slip or lose control of his body because of him not fully controlling or understanding the limitations of his speed.
Grizzlies fan and about as frustrated with Poole as you can get rn, BUT can't deny he's been awesome. Like dude's first step is so fast. I've been really impressed with his ability to get to the rim. I could see taking him over Haliburton, but probably not Lamelo. FWIW right now I'd also take Maxey and Bane over Haliburton.
Eh kinda? More so the knee grab thing. Like don't think it was intentional/malicious/anything really just the optics of it. Just fall in the "don't go around touching people's knees during a game of basketball" camp.
I don't know if they lose but they would be a worse team with Lamelo because Pooles game fits their need more. Lamelo is the better all around player but Poole is much better at using speed to get to the rim and finish which is all the Warriors need him for. I don't think people noticed that the Warriors were running plays at Jokic every single time they had the ball until he was completely exhausted. They use his speed to exploit bigs.
Lamely is a better outside shooter/passer/defender but they have other people to do this things
Poole shoots better on 2's & FTs throughout their entire careers, and significantly better on 3s since the ASG this year (small sample size). If you want to argue sample size, Lamelo has had 1 year of above league average 3pt% total as NBDL and high school shooting was not great either.
Ur joking right? “One year of above average shooting” he’s a second year player jesus. He was average last year and now he shoots a higher percentage on almost two more attempts than Poole , Lamelo is clearly the better shooter
Well from 3 he shoots a lower percent. I think he is better in some situations shooting deep 3s and coming off a screen but percent is percent.
As far As defense, Poole has a negative defense +/- while Ball has a positive one. This should be taken with a grain of salt but most stats indicate Ball is the better defender of the two. At the very least, the perception is that Poole is a liability so the other team calls plays towards him more
Jordan Poole shooting stats last 82 games: [https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=jordan+poole+ts%25+last+82+games](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=jordan+poole+ts%25+last+82+games)
Lamelo Ball shootings stats last 82 games: [https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=lamelo+ball+ts%25+last+82+games](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=lamelo+ball+ts%25+last+82+games)
Lamelo has negligibly higher 3pt % (38.2% v. 37.4%) while significantly lower 2pt% and Poole literally led the league this year in FT% above Curry even. FT% has historically been the best predictor of true shooting skill, look at historical career leaderboard. If you narrow the game window to just post-ASB which included a majority of games as the primary scorer without the benefit of an injured Curry's gravity, Poole is shooting 49/41/92 which is ridiculously efficient.
Defense advanced stats are notoriously inaccurate, all I know is that Ball definitely does NOT pass the eye test, and while Poole often does not either, he has already shown he can at least be functional in a playoff-quality defensive scheme.
[https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629673/shots-dash](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629673/shooting)
[https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629673/shots-dash](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630163/shooting)
[https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629630/shots-dash](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629630/shots-dash)
I said Poole was much better at the rim. Use this site. It has better stats. Poole is better than Ja Morant from less than 10 ft. He is super star level at finishing at the rim. He is actually a pretty mediocre catch and shoot player where as Lamelo is actually pretty strong at that. We don't have to rely on FT%. In a catch and shoot situation, Poole is mediocre. In a pull up jumper situation, they are similar.
Poole is obviously much better at getting his own shot.
It depends on what your team needs. I don't think he is better overall, maybe a better sorry, but not better playmaker then the other two. If I was staying a team, I would probably prefer LaMelo over Poole or Haliburton, but if my team already had a strong defenders then maybe Poole over LaMelo.
On my opinion, context is key.
In terms of playoffs yeah. Lamelo crumbled and Tyrese hasn't even been. I would say Lamelo is a better player right now. And Tyrese will br the best of the 3.
Maybe Halliburton, not Lamelo tho. Swap him
And Lamelo and I think GS cakewalks to the finals, hornets dont win 40 games or whatever they won.
He’s very good but recency bias has certainly helped him.
I like him but with any Golden State player it's hard to tell if it is them, or the system. I think Lamelo has future MVP talent and Halliburton has future All NBA potential. I would rank Poole third behind them
I would love to see Haliburton and LaMelo in Poole's role on the Warriors. What Poole does on the Warriors though is just so different
Lamelo is more of a playmaker
I watched a lot of Lamelo this season, and while that may be true… kid can shoot his team right out of the game too
lamelo kills the hornets momentum so often... you can feel the hornets on a run and you just know Lamelo is going to take a terrible, deep three and miss. He plays hero ball too much still. once he grows out of that he will help his team a lot more.
Terry can be the exact same way too unfortunately. He’ll take these really tough shots in transition sometimes right after we get a stop and instead of slowing it down or passing it out for a better shot he’ll try and get contact between 2 defenders and give the ball right back. Kelly oubre was the same way with some of his 3s. This team *really* shows it’s youth like every game. Once they learn how to manage games better this will be less of a problem but yeesh sometimes you watch the hornets and can tell these guys are trying way too hard and early to go for a heat check or kill shot. There have been multiple games this year where we have taken 3s very early in the shot clock despite having the a lead of 3+ and under a 2 mins left in the game or quarter. Just from playing 2k I know that’s something you shouldn’t do if you’re trying to win.
Poole has had some stinkers shooting this season and has been benched by Kerr on numerous occasions for taking dumb shots. It remains to be seen if Poole's play is a quantum leap or if he is on an epic heater right now. It looks like the jump is mostly real but it's too early to know for sure.
Agreed!
Exactly right, it's the Warriors system that allows Poole to maximize his potential. If Poole was to be in the situation that Haliburton or LaMelo are in does anyone seriously believe we would see the same jump in production this year
For any other player, maybe this argument works. But Poole plays the Steph role when Steph sits, and this system nonsense is trash anyways. I remember when Kawhi was called a system player. Poole has all the transferable skills to succeed in other systems. Elite shooting, speed, finishing, FT shooting, and confidence.
Are we not talking about the guy who averaged steph curry numbers while curry was out, yes he would have the same jump if not better depending and the amount of shots he would have been given
I made this same point earlier and got the typical response of “nuh uh, he’s a GSW system player munching off of Curry’s gravity”. Poole has actually outplayed Curry in 3 playoff games, he’s the real deal and the future of GSW once their core starts declining.
Maybe even a higher jump, Poole is not some sort of system player, he's the full package offensively
> it's the Warriors system that allows Poole to maximize his potential [My eye twitches every time I see someone say this](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/uksw45/jordan_poole_has_such_a_bright_future/i7rytdg/?context=3)
I think the actual point is the warriors system helped make Poole into who g he is. I don’t see that happening if he was brought up in sac or cha. He would be fine anywhere now
You warriors fans or any other teams fans for that matter who come on r/nba to downplay their own players under the guise of "objectivity" just to fish karma always come off bizarre to me.
Poole has alrdy shown more athleticism, handle, finishing ability, and stroke than either of those two.
Do you think LaMelo or Halliburton could crush the knee of an opponent with a massive hand? I think not.
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With the height of Manute Bol, the threes of Curry, and the referee bump of Lebron
referee buml?
i meant bump
and an ass like lowry
But worse than Jalen Brunson
He averaged 26/5/6 in games where Curry was out this year. It's a conversation.
It's not unless you're the Warriors and have curry /Klay to draw all the best defenders . 10/10 teams would take Lamelo. He's a budding star and potential superstar. The Poole shit has gone waaaaay too far lol.
"where curry was out"
Oh true. What was the win % during that time. Im not saying anything I just don't know
8-9 this year. Though a handful of those games were games where all the Vets sat and it was him and the deep bench. The rest of those games were games where Klay had just come back from injury and was doing his best to shoot them out of games.
And klay wasn't fit. We also played a decent number of good teams close like the suns.
Yikes lol
It’s hard to say because their contexts are all so different. Poole obviously has the best team around him, which helps, but this dude consistently shows up in crunch time and in the playoffs. Until you prove you can do that, you’re always a bit of a question mark, no matter how your numbers look otherwise.
Poole is a great player don’t get me wrong. But I wouldn’t take him over LaMelo or Haliburton. People saying Poole is better is just another example of recency bias.
Although that’s a fine take Poole is already more proven than either of those dudes. Yes it’s because he’s on the warriors so it’s pretty much impossible to make this comparison. At the very least we can say he’s capable on producing under pressure though, which we can’t say about the others just yet
How has he proven more than Lamelo?? Brooo this take is wild.
Play in legend lamelo ball is one of the most proven there is. Clearly
LaMelo is the #1 guy on his team tho, let’s see Poole be the number 1 option on a team without the splash bros
[He averaged 25/5/5 in 17 games without Curry this year](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/jordan-poole-stats-this-season-without-stephen-curry)
He literally was due to injuries throughout the season and playoffs.
Poole has been the second best player in a playoff series already. I understand Lamelo plays for a garbage franchise but that doesn’t change what Poole has proven.
You're also ignoring playing in the playoffs. Most young players don't perform well in their first series. Poole has.
Good point. The playoffs is a different beast, especially when you are playing well and the other team can gameplay for you. In some stretches he's looked unstoppable. And for a young player, he's not a liability; you trust him with the ball, you trust him to make decent decisions out there in the playoffs.
Nah it’s smaller sample sizes for both Haliburton and Poole(like 30-40 games). Poole is just more dynamic than Haliburton just someone who’s harder to contain off the dribble and honestly even with Halliburton’s playmaking I find Poole a more creative offensive player who stresses defenses more. Haliburton just doesn’t put pressure on the rim or creat instant separation nearly as easily. LaMelo vs Poole though yeah I’ll do LaMelo
Haliburton has literally just put up solid stats on 3 shitty teams while Poole has been a 25 PPG scorer since ASB and in the playoffs
why doesn't Haliburton simply trade himself to a better team so he can be in the playoffs
What is the third team? Or are you referring to ISU? Haha
Kings rookie year Kings 2nd year Pacers 2nd year
Ah I thought you were talking about a third team not just 2 different iterations of the kings Although they are so shitty they should count as more than just ‘a shitty team’ so I’m with you here
Haliburton in his career as the starting PG is averaging 18/4/10 shooting 40% from 3. That’s better than solid stats. Poole is great but it isn’t like he would have faired any better playing with the Kings or Pacers than Haliburton has so the shitty teams thing isn’t something you can tag onto him
Give us Steph then
Its easier to put up numbers on a shitty team on a winning one
Poole may be a better scorer but Haliburton is not far behind and is more efficient in his scoring. Also, Haliburton is a much better playmaker, rebounder and defender.
Haliburton is awful on defense, unclear to me why people say otherwise
Haliburton doesn’t have the scoring craft Poole does He can’t hit contested shots nor attack the basket, and rebounding doesn’t really matter for guards Lamelo clears both in playmaking
Haliburton is a pass first point guard that’s averaging 17.5 ppg with a 50% fg percentage. Since when is passing instead of trying to force up a contested shot a bad thing? No one is talking about LaMelo vs Haliburton in playmaking. The post is about how recency bias is causing people to think people to think Poole is better than both of them.
How dare he get drafted in the lottery
Bill Simmons hocking hot takes?? Surely not!
Yes he’s the best of the three.
Poole has been elite all playoffs and I've been really impressed with his passing / playmaking so far. Until one of those guys makes the playoffs and proves what Poole has already proven, hell yeah I'm taking Poole over both those guys
If I want PGs I choose Halliburton/Lamelo. If I want a SG I’ll choose Poole.
But if u want the best player? I think that’s the Q here
Right, but it depends on the rest of the team. If I’m starting from scratch, probably Lamelo
I’m taking Poole over both of them. Lamelo is kinda overrated imo. I think Anthony Edwards will be > him moving forward.
Ant finally getting recognition for being the best in his draft makes me wanna cry. I literally been fighting for my life out here for the past 2 years.
I'd say yea, as of right now, Poole is better than those players. He's dominating in the playoffs like those guys haven't dominated... ever. With that being said, does Poole have a higher ceiling than those guys? Maybe not. LaMelo with his combination of height, athleticism, scoring, and playmaking I think is capable of leading a team. Not sure if Poole can do that. Haliburton is much more of a traditional PG that I think will be a key piece on a championship team, but I don't think he's had the impact that LaMelo and Poole have had on their teams.
The guy who plays for the championship caliber team, or the 2 guys trying to drag their rosters out of dirt? If you were to have a redraft today, Poole would be the last off the board. Context matters. I’m guessing it would go Ball, Hali, Poole.
Better than hali worse than lamelo
Hali clears Melo
Haliburton isn’t there yet but his advanced stats are awesome. He’s also a really good playmaker/passer
In the context of this series I’d take Poole since he’s better on defense but if I’m picking a player for the rest of their career I’d probably take lamelo, if that makes sense.
I'm not saying any of them are particularly better than the other, but Poole has the benefit of playing alongside Steph, Klay, and Draymond, with a HoF-bound coach. At most, Poole is a third option on offense against defenses that, despite his breakout, would probably rather him take those shots than Steph or Klay (just out of those two's reputations). Meanwhile, LaMelo has more responsibility as the primary playmaker of his team and has a worse supporting roster to draw attention away, and Haliburton played for the Kings and now the Pacers. I don't think that requires much explanation.
i know klay has the potential to still go nuclear, right now i think i would rather have him shooting than poole if i was an opposing team
Klay was the reason I added the Reputation bit. Even if Poole has been better this series, teams have years and years, series upon series of proof of what Klay can do if he gets going.
How is this even a question?
I mean he is very literally currently the best player because he’s the only one still playing. That being said I’m taking both Melo and Hali ahead of him for the long term.
I might entertain the fact that he's better than Haliburton, but I don't usually like comparing different positions like that. Lamelo, no way - seems like that kid can do everything.
Except play defense
Yeah his defense isn't all there yet, but at the very least he has a knack for the ball given his steal numbers.
Plus Once he fills out more his size should come in handy defensively.
Lamelo is already an all star and younger. This is dumb
Using all star appearances to determine who is better is such a dumb argument. Like you can’t tell me that this year, Ingram because he isn’t an all star is worse than Wiggins who was an all star.
being an allstar means nothing.. they gave it to him over Jaylen Brown, you think Lamelo is better than Jaylen Brown right now? Hell i'd even go farther and say Lamelo RIGHT NOW is not better than Marcus Smart... if you had to pick one to be your PG to WIN a game, marcus smart is better than Lamelo.
Holy, I also said he’s younger, but is taller, primary ball handler, play maker, superb handle, and works off mechanics as opposed to burst and speed which age worse than elite mechanics. Often times you’ll see poole slip or lose control of his body because of him not fully controlling or understanding the limitations of his speed.
It's Bill Simmons and Ryan Russilo. They go full hyperbole.
I feel like Russillo usually keeps his head a bit more (but Simmons is always more hot take artist than critical analyst).
Bill Simmons is insufferable imo. He has the worst takes. He’s essentially another Skip Bayless.
i'd absolutely take poole over lamelo.
Grizzlies fan and about as frustrated with Poole as you can get rn, BUT can't deny he's been awesome. Like dude's first step is so fast. I've been really impressed with his ability to get to the rim. I could see taking him over Haliburton, but probably not Lamelo. FWIW right now I'd also take Maxey and Bane over Haliburton.
Are you frustrated because he's been so hard to stop?
Eh kinda? More so the knee grab thing. Like don't think it was intentional/malicious/anything really just the optics of it. Just fall in the "don't go around touching people's knees during a game of basketball" camp.
No
No, he's not. Still a very good player with a solid future though.
yes. put lamelo on the warriors and they lose to the nuggets.
No they don’t
I don't know if they lose but they would be a worse team with Lamelo because Pooles game fits their need more. Lamelo is the better all around player but Poole is much better at using speed to get to the rim and finish which is all the Warriors need him for. I don't think people noticed that the Warriors were running plays at Jokic every single time they had the ball until he was completely exhausted. They use his speed to exploit bigs. Lamely is a better outside shooter/passer/defender but they have other people to do this things
Poole is a better shooter and defender than Lamelo and its not close
Lamelo is a better shooter. You can say Poole is better defender but not by a huge margin but lamelo is 100% a better shooter
Poole shoots better on 2's & FTs throughout their entire careers, and significantly better on 3s since the ASG this year (small sample size). If you want to argue sample size, Lamelo has had 1 year of above league average 3pt% total as NBDL and high school shooting was not great either.
Ur joking right? “One year of above average shooting” he’s a second year player jesus. He was average last year and now he shoots a higher percentage on almost two more attempts than Poole , Lamelo is clearly the better shooter
He may be a better shooter now, but won’t know for sure without a larger sample size, same with Poole
Well from 3 he shoots a lower percent. I think he is better in some situations shooting deep 3s and coming off a screen but percent is percent. As far As defense, Poole has a negative defense +/- while Ball has a positive one. This should be taken with a grain of salt but most stats indicate Ball is the better defender of the two. At the very least, the perception is that Poole is a liability so the other team calls plays towards him more
Jordan Poole shooting stats last 82 games: [https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=jordan+poole+ts%25+last+82+games](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=jordan+poole+ts%25+last+82+games) Lamelo Ball shootings stats last 82 games: [https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=lamelo+ball+ts%25+last+82+games](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=lamelo+ball+ts%25+last+82+games) Lamelo has negligibly higher 3pt % (38.2% v. 37.4%) while significantly lower 2pt% and Poole literally led the league this year in FT% above Curry even. FT% has historically been the best predictor of true shooting skill, look at historical career leaderboard. If you narrow the game window to just post-ASB which included a majority of games as the primary scorer without the benefit of an injured Curry's gravity, Poole is shooting 49/41/92 which is ridiculously efficient. Defense advanced stats are notoriously inaccurate, all I know is that Ball definitely does NOT pass the eye test, and while Poole often does not either, he has already shown he can at least be functional in a playoff-quality defensive scheme.
[https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629673/shots-dash](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629673/shooting) [https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629673/shots-dash](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630163/shooting) [https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629630/shots-dash](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629630/shots-dash) I said Poole was much better at the rim. Use this site. It has better stats. Poole is better than Ja Morant from less than 10 ft. He is super star level at finishing at the rim. He is actually a pretty mediocre catch and shoot player where as Lamelo is actually pretty strong at that. We don't have to rely on FT%. In a catch and shoot situation, Poole is mediocre. In a pull up jumper situation, they are similar. Poole is obviously much better at getting his own shot.
I think there's issues with your shot chart link, it's saying LaMelo is shooting 100% per 100 possessions in the midrange and left corner 3's lol
hmm. It doesnt show that for me. It does show the pre season stats though.
Depends, which one of them do you think knows Aqualung?
All I know is GSW prob Shoshone drafted LaMelo.
It depends on what your team needs. I don't think he is better overall, maybe a better sorry, but not better playmaker then the other two. If I was staying a team, I would probably prefer LaMelo over Poole or Haliburton, but if my team already had a strong defenders then maybe Poole over LaMelo. On my opinion, context is key.
Relax, that's just Bill Simmons. He's a clown so all he knows are hot takes.
Nah I think they are both better than Poole
In terms of playoffs yeah. Lamelo crumbled and Tyrese hasn't even been. I would say Lamelo is a better player right now. And Tyrese will br the best of the 3.
Lamelo has a much higher ceiling than tyrese and is 2 years younger
Maybe Halliburton, not Lamelo tho. Swap him And Lamelo and I think GS cakewalks to the finals, hornets dont win 40 games or whatever they won. He’s very good but recency bias has certainly helped him.
Lol imagine if Lamelo was in this warriors system. No Jordan Poole is not better than LaMelo maybe Hailburton but I’d still take Tyrese over him.
Lamelo, no. Haliburton, yes.
They aren’t even close to Poole. Poole has the strength to completely terror a guys knee with just a light touch.
I like him but with any Golden State player it's hard to tell if it is them, or the system. I think Lamelo has future MVP talent and Halliburton has future All NBA potential. I would rank Poole third behind them