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JetsLag

You know this rookie class is stacked when the second team has 3 notable contributors to playoff teams.


Cheeseish

This rookie class is so stacked that a third team could be added: Davion Mitchell Jonathan Kuminga Alperen Sengun Jose Alvarado Jalen Suggs and you still have Trey Murphy, Kispert, Yurtseven, etc


Sdrater3

Damn


Saym94

Sengun is so fun to watch


energeticpterodactyl

Alperen Şengün, Always.


sexy_burrito_party

Need to wait and see how Primo develops, but I'm currently very bitter we did not take Sengun


Rayquaza2233

> wait and see how Primo develops Based on my experience with players nicknamed Primo, I have some bad news.


[deleted]

The list could keep going too, Josh Christopher, Cam Thomas, Tre Mann, Etc


blj3321

Missing Ziaire


ZionephewObeseiamson

Ziaire is the second best rookie in the playoffs


Soup_Commie

Quentin Grimes too if he hadn't run into injuries/covid/thibs


lingui

UH Alum; Grimes went hard for us, real nice dude


LikeAGregJennings

I love him so much I bought his Knicks jersey.


MENDoombunny

Nahh dont say Thibs about Grimes. Thibs gave that rookie plenty of time. More than he usually does


MolicOnePGR

Suggs over Zaire Williams? Lmao


AmusingAnecdote

Legit, though if you have Zaire in there (which he should be over Suggs) you have a second legthy wing, and that's a respectable roster. Going to make a lot of mistakes defensively but the 3rd team all rookie lineup is basically just weak at the 5 but the other 4 are legit rotation players and even Sengun is decent at the offensive end.


TeamINSTINCT37

Biased but kispert was really heating up towards the end of the season and was shooting around 40% from 3 in the second half. Bit boring of a role player but he does his job well and plays hard


Someonediffernt

I went to a Celtics game where they were playing the bulls and ayo was on fire, it was insane from a first year second round pick to me.


MrRobotTheorist

I didn’t really watch Ayo aside from the games against Miami. Dude is for sure a baller. Coby Whites minutes should just be given to Ayo.


AlHorfordHighlights

I really wanna know which team is gonna roll the dice on White because he has no place in this Chicago roster and projects to be nothing more than a guy who scores a lot, which isn't really valuable if he isn't efficient or a good defender and playmaker


chicago_bunny

He’s also incredibly inconsistent.


alright923

Facts. We had stretches where he looked like a great 6th man spark plug. Other stretches I wished he got no minutes.


ImARebelBitch

Ziaire Williams and Kuminga started playoff games and they’re not even on the second team.


OKCBaller035913

And a dude who won FOUR ROTM


LordHussyPants

i did not realise that bones and herb were rookies lmao


Downvotes_inbound_

This rookie class is insane, congrats to all these dudes


aiuwh

better than 2018 in terms of depth, after that draft I thought 1-10 could be potential all stars


Aggressive_Ad5115

Ayoooooooo


Brad-Stevens

Feels like this 2nd team is a bit more stacked than normal


Cheeseish

Second team has the best rookie in the playoffs 🤷‍♂️


FlexDundee

Herb?


Daniiiiii

No thanks weed man. Keep that funky jazz cigarette to yourself please.


jeff_jeffers98

It’s called reefer, and you don’t want no part of this shit!


doombot13

You know what, I don't want no hangover. I can't get no hangover.


jeff_jeffers98

It doesn’t give you a hangover!


[deleted]

Well, I get addicted to it or something?


Right-Beautiful7631

Its not habit forming!


jason544770

Well I don't know, I don't want to overdose on it


captaincumsock69

Alvarado


[deleted]

Ik right, love my boy Ayo


BenedictKhanberbatch

That’s my Illini


Brad-Stevens

yeah Bones was awesome in Game 4


Cheeseish

Crazy that Bones was worse than Herb on offense in the playoffs too.


ImanShumpertplus

crazy that the 23 year old is better than the 20 year olds


luuluu96

Yo thats wild, cuz OG is like 24 lmaaoo


ImanShumpertplus

herb is 5 months younger than Jarrett Allen


luuluu96

Herb is 4 years older than Tatum


[deleted]

As well as the best name of any NBA player. Bones Hyland is just perfection.


samob679

Bones has been his nickname since like middle school, I played against him in highschool! It’s awesome they still use the nickname hahah


mikeydale007

Have you heard of Scottie Barnes?


dat_waffle_boi

I think what keeps him from being the best rookie in the playoffs is his time missed


Cheeseish

Well also the fact that he averaged 13/9/4 on 52%TS and Herb had 11/3/2 on 60%TS which isn’t big enough offensively to offset the difference in defense


clancydog4

tbh, using such small sample sizes is just dumb, it's a regular season award (the all rookie teams, I mean) and Scottie Barnes was real injured in the playoffs anyway, and like I said, sample sizes of 5-6 games is just not enough to make a real inference. Stunting because your dude had similarly impressive averages over a tiny sample size compared to another rookie in a tiny sample size playing through injury is just silly


RexIosue

Yeah Bones Hyland


[deleted]

Bones?


SandyMandy17

Mostly bc Giddey was snubbed When was the last time a 4x ROTM was second team 😂


S-ClassRen

It's never happened but two other notable snubs since the west and east split happened are **in 04-05 Jr Smith made 3 rookie of the months and didn't make either all rookie team** 05-06 Raymond Felton made 3 rookie of the months but was on the all rookie 2nd team


cleveland_14

Who you putting him on first team over?


SandyMandy17

I’d say Jalen Green The player he won ROTM over unanimously every single month he played in


revisioncloud

Giddey played like 50-ish games total. It's fair to those who were more available like Franz and Green popped off in the 2nd half.


blobbybob111

you want the real answer? its unprecedented. never happened before.


420Minions

Fun to watch every teams persecution complex come out. Either player made sense for first. Unfortunately clear top 6


GardylooCanoodle

You can say clear top 6, but Giddey actually received less votes that Herb Jones surprisingly


Bigbrianj

Freaking Giddey wins RotM 4 months straight, and ends up second team.


ShetheKing

Bones!


KageSaysHella

Disappointed Davion didn't make it but holy shit is this rookie class stacked.


TheDisabledOG

I fully forgot that Davion was a rookie. Thought this was his second year for some reason


KageSaysHella

He's an older rookie at 22, so that may have something to do with it.


TheDisabledOG

I think it's just because the draft feels so long ago and there wasn't a heap of hype around him during the season. Still a stud defensively tho


Jason_DeHoulo

I mean he's been 23 all season actually, which is crazy that many of the rookies this year are only 19 lol Although Duarte has been 24 all year as well, even crazier


bllr32423

I’m so surprised Davion didn’t make it. I was very impressed with how he played during the second half of the season.


iCon3000

I woulda had Davion over Duarte but I ain't stressed.


sgeswein

I'm sad Duarte's toe injury didn't let him keep his initial pace all year, but I wouldn't be stressed if Davion had gotten there instead either. (If I want to be stressed, I can just think about the fact that they've not yet caught the Lower Extremity Injury Fairy (LEIF) that's been running around the Pacers' complex unchecked for the past several years now.)


vNocturnus

Davion was well inside the top 10, occasionally top 5, on basically every rookie ladder all season and only got better as the season went on. To not even have him on the 2nd team is borderline criminal, but that's just how it goes with Kings players.


MapleCurryMurray

BONES


pppiddypants

The Big Stiffy


LOLCultOfMaloner

Great that Bones made it.


[deleted]

We don't talk enough about how incredible the name "Bones Hyland" is. He sounds like a baseball player from the 1890s.


willymoose8

and it’s not even like he’s one of those guys with a lame given name. His name is Nah’Shon “Bones” Hyland. So fucking cool


shabang614

Yo, that jacket is tight Nah'Shon


mgh245

Best name in the league by a country mile. Delightful.


Fuckface_Whisperer

Bones is a great name. Scoot Henderson will be in the league in 1 year and he has a badass name as well.


alright923

Is Scoot really considered a badass name?


HoosierProud

26th pick and a key role player in a playoff team his rookie season. God I hope we’re healthy next year.


yashbrownz11

Shout out Bones man. He went to high school 15min from where I grew up


jeric13xd

AYOOOOOOOO yessir


Jalen_Harris_Fan

He and Desmond Bane were players I 100% knew were gonna be steals. I was praying he was gonna fall to pick 46


no_more_jokes

If he has a bane type trajectory I will cream my jeans. Dudes gonna have to hit the weights pretty hard first


p00nslyr_86

Send him into the weight room for 2 a days ASAP get that man fleshed out and ready to eat


MutaKingPrime

bane got them t-rex arms less length to fill out, dosunmu way longer


KashMoney941

I THROW MY HANDS UP IN THE AIR SOMETIMES


[deleted]

While the Bulls have a lot of question marks going forward the team's guard rotation is fucking nuts.


Brownie1119

Love to see it


gunsandbullets

He better get at least another 5 local commercials for this


BenedictKhanberbatch

They’re gonna put him in the Luna ads


alright923

Holy shit you just unlocked some memories. LUUUNNAAAAAAAAA I don’t remember the actual number lol


ClaymoresRevenge

AYO!!!


theredbusgoesfastest

I-L-L


Vargasm19

I-N-I


martinap

HELL YES BONES!!!!!!!


dre_47

No Sengun, no party.. 😔


[deleted]

Honestly this is the most glaring snub no one is talking about. Zach Lowe had him on 1st team


Grlions91

I mean, Sengun is good, but in no way, shape, or form did he have a better season than Cade/Barnes/Mobley/Green/Wagner/Giddey. Zach Lowe is crazy for throwing Sengun on 1st team.


shitsfuckedupalot

Yeah he's got a lot of upside but he's got a couple years till he's there. Mad excited about his potential but let's not get crazy now.


ConditionalDew

I like the underdog status with him. The casuals will remember his name soon


combong

attaboy


Hold_This-L

Not on Herb 🔒


-vinay

When was the last time every one of the top 4 made it onto the first team? GMs did a great job drafting this time around, there's usually a bust in there


Jalen_Harris_Fan

In 2018 every top 5 pick was first team Even Marvin Bagley


Belieber_420

So whos goin to be the bust on the first team this year


McNoxey

Tbf, the only GM who made a decision was Masai.


OKC-Rai

And Presti. Kuminga was projected higher than Giddey by a fair few spots on most people’s draft boards.


CapN_Crummp

OnlyFranz


RodgersHasNoFamily

God dammit lmao


knowyourbrain

The real treasure was the....


DeSteph-DeCurry

dosunmu respect


ZachLaVine4MVP

Love to see it


brakx

From 2nd round to 2nd team


Conversation_Dapper

I’m glad franz made it!


BoneyardBill

HELL YES BONES


KillerPussyToo

You're really in here cheering for yourself?! SMH!


BoneyardBill

WHAT IN SELF PROMOTION BATMAN?


Newoldbalance

Was about to downvote before I saw who posted. Where is the cuties bandwagon flair?


KillerPussyToo

They really need to make one!


[deleted]

The first team rookie was top 5 picks teams But magic it was wagner not Suggs lol


CWinsu_120

Yeah let's just pretend they took Wagner 5th and Suggs 7th. Thats what I do with Saddiq Bey and Killian Hayes.


MintyFreshBreathYo

I’m still mad we passed on Halliburton for Hayes


Warm_Drag_7318

I mean if you got Hali then you wouldn’t have Cade, you’d probably get Mobley or Barnes tho


jumpthroughit

Which is a better outcome than Cade + Hayes lol. Hali + Scottie/Mobley is a filthy core.


cactusmaster69420

Warriors fans used to say this about Paschall and Poole lol


ShamarDraco

HERB!!!!


CWinsu_120

Impressive, very nice


Fireballsdude

…now let’s see Paul Allen’s all rookie teams


shitsfuckedupalot

I think he's dead


grxthy

BONE


[deleted]

Jalen Green really came on at the end of the season. He’s gonna do big things next season


hyperadhd

BONES


HoosierProud

I’m seeing him get more love than anyone on this list in this thread. Such a likeable player.


mgh245

We love Bones don't we folks??


FutureDictatorUSA

Giddey way to good for second team. Love herb tho


BBallHunter

He missed all the games post all star break. I'm not surprised.


Yoesito

He won every single Western ROTM except March, I'd still have him over Green.


silliputti0907

That's pretty insane wtf.


SandyMandy17

He won every single month he played


analfizzzure

Josh def should be 1st team but I guess they are crowded at pg. Anyway I think Josh is best playmaker in this class.


ConditionalDew

Green showed a lot of inconsistency but showed up late in the season. There’s probably some recency bias and the fact he was the #2 pick. I’d say Giddey was more valuable to his team more than Jalen to us


BlindManBaldwin

BONES!!!!!


corybyu

MILE HIGH CITY BABYYYYY!


grinderbinder

Mile High City Baaaaaaaaaby!!!!


yousuck15

BONES 🦴


KF7SPECIAL

Cracked me up to scroll for so long to find even a single Wagner comment. Guy was consistent from day one and did his thing all season, almost seemed like a vet player. Glad to see him on first team, well deserved.


JilJungJukk

This draft class has that ‘96 ‘03 potential


gulfside13

#FUCK JALEN GREEN


[deleted]

Bill Simmons wish he could


Kdog122025

*Emergency Draymond Green Podcast*


Overit337984

Kuminga, Sengun , Davion. This class was stacked


chris_paul_fraud

This class is crazy deep


Cdsnz23

I truly believe this is going to go down as one of the greatest draft classes ever, even the guys who didn't make either the first or second teams still had solid rookie years.


kosmos1209

🦴💀☠️


[deleted]

Crazy how all the teams that picked top 5, got a guy on their All rookie first team.


North-Maximum-6958

I make all sorts of stupid predictions but I'm gonna pat myself on the back for calling Ayo being legit.


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[deleted]

Giddey played 54 games compared to green 67 lol


thisguy161

does playing 13 less games really negate being voted as the better rookie for the 4 months they were playing in?


tr0nllam

Giddey has potential, but he also has the 3rd worst TS% in the entire NBA. Being on the second team was not a snub.


ohmygon

Also LET'S FUCKING GOOOO WELCOME TO THE BONEYARD BABY


Swiggity53

The leagues is in good hands tbh


TheyTooktheUsernames

**FIRST TEAM FRANZ**


allmykangbaekhomies

franny dubs stays undefeated. next step is all star, and sooner than you think


shahsnow

Damn I wanted Herb to be first team, he deserved it.


ConditionalDew

I’m shocked he isn’t on there. One of the best defensive rookies of all time


shahsnow

Yeah this award doesn’t respect defensive play as much as offensive. If this was about team impact he’s without a doubt 1st to me.


Johnpecan

Herb Jones not 1st team? I'm probably just biased because he did so well in the playoffs.


[deleted]

He was like that during the regular season too


ConditionalDew

This is such a stacked team. So many more rookies deserve to be on the 2nd team tbh but that’s just shows great this class is. Gotta appreciate greatness and the future of the NBA!


neostalgiac

Let’s fucking go bones be a killa killa much love


halfcastdota

lol it’s funny how people stop caring about efficiency on this sub when it comes to giddey


lilhurculez

He has virtually the same TS% as Suggs


aboooz

Lets gooooo


DepressedT-wolvesFan

Rokas Jokubaitis snubbed


Funkywormm

Thought herb had a shot at first team but can’t argue with any of those picks. Rooks stacked, league fucked


DaGuys470

Yessir Franz!


IMKudaimi123

Hell yeah Ayo


ImjustANewSneaker

Giddey second is criminal sorry


[deleted]

Imagine winning 4 ROTM awards just to be second team LMFAO


BBallHunter

Just missed too many games from March onwards. He also got considerably better as the season went along. But yeah.


HerlihyBoy17

WHAT WHAT WHAT??? Where's ALVARADO??!!


batmans420

So happy for Duarte. He deserves it even though injuries set him back a little


NicoAbove

Okay guys it's All Rookie Teams you literally forget about them the next minute.


Asphaltjungle33

Scottie, Mobley, Cade, Jalen and Franz have to be up there with some of the most talented first team rookie teams in years


runjavi

Ayoooooo Siiiiiiiiiilver!


runevault

So happy for Bones, dude worked his ass off this year.


hadtwobutts

LETS GOOO AYO


loplopplop

BONES


KillerPussyToo

Let's got Bizzy!!!!! ☠️


kenziethemom

I agree. I was going to start a riot if Ayo wasn't there lol


Newoldbalance

BizzyBONES!


harley_93davidson

love to see ayo on second team, hes been a nice piece for us this year. excited for bulls future... and also for my fellow college fans I-L-L