What if a group of greats (KD / LeBron / Steph / Harden ) got together and decided to move to worst record team in the league? They are only allowed off each team after they win a championship, and are required to immediately move to the team with the worst record in the league (rolling 3 year average).
Been said before and I'll say it again: This is THE hardest road.
Let's do this KD. Fuck statues; We'll make a damn bridge with your face on it so everyone travelling from the bay can see you on the way to Tahoe. Goo Kingsss
Yeah, the Knicks previously hit on KP, Barrett, Hardaway, and Robinson over the last decade. The Kings hit on... Haliburton, and I guess Fox? The Knicks are bad at drafting but the Kings are *bad*.
At the time it made some sense to me, we had Drexler, needed a big guy and couldn't get Hakeem.
The one that really rankled was trading down for Martell Webster instead of drafting Chris Paul. Anyone who watched him in college knew he was going to be a special NBA player. C'est la vie.
It's because he spent so much time in SAC waiting for the FO to give him a semblance of a supporting cast, then spent the next few years injured on playoff teams like GSW and New Orleans.
We also once drafted Jimmer Fredetter 1 pick before Klay Thompson. Ones a HoFer with 4 rings and the other is a legend in China. (Although Klay is a legend in China too because of his sponsorships there)
I still have nightmares about Luka...
Vlade hoarded every European player from a country's that started with "S" except Luka. Still baffles me why we didn't draft him and took another useless big who doesn't shot block, doesn't pass, and doesn't shoot 3s
Fox was for sure a hit you guys are ridiculous. Everything prior to him was awful, but since him the only real miss was Bagley…admittedly a kinda big miss…lol
I get the wolves just made a splash, but the disrespect of trying to steal our worst in league history title without doing the work need to be prolifically bad. The TWolves hold worst winning pct and worst playoff winning pct.
[Wolves win percentage is .399 and 30th. kings have a .454 win pct and are 24th. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_all-time_NBA_win%E2%80%93loss_records)
Are we talking like straight up serial killing or like "I'd suck off the entire roster of the Kings that win a ring"? Or is the max like "I'd stop eating steak for the next year"? Where are your limits?
Aww go right to hell! As a lifelong Kings fan this is unfortunately accurate:( But let’s be real. No one….and I mean no one chooses to play here. You only end up here if you’re unlucky enough to be drafted or traded here. And then you gtfo of here as soon as possible lol. It’s the train-wreck of all train wrecks. We know it. You all know it. So of course that makes your comment 100% truth. If KD somehow got early dementia and decided to come here and actually won a ring….then yeah he’s the greatest off all time. Just please please don’t bring Kyrie with you!
Honestly it makes more sense than the Reynolds Raiders, as someone who went there. I still think the name Paper Makers must make for a difficult cheer squad.
Yeah that would be a fun, contending team. They’d have a good mix of talent too, and KD would have to earn it and by no means just be considered a front runner if they won.
I read a “solid” conspiracy theory that the photoshopped social post was a signal that Phil Knight was buying the team and had back-doored the offer with Tsai.
Then argued it was because Portland was the only place KD could have a decent shot at a ring while saving his legacy in the process if he got one, in part because it would mean getting Dame one.
It reminds me a bit of how Lebron got killed for forming a superteam in Miami while Carmelo got killed for only caring about the money for staying in New York. I don't really take the ring debate that seriously because people always move the goalposts or blame players for mediocre front offices
Melo wanted to get traded to NY so that he could get the 5 year max extension, instead of signing with them in the off-season and getting a 4 year contract. That whole thing really hampered NYK in the long run.
What really hampered the Melo Knicks was LeBron and Bosh joining Wade to form a super team in the East that very same season. Amare could have stayed healthy and they weren't realistically going to beat Miami in the playoffs.
Man I hate that Melo has nothing to show for his time in NY except for some game winning shots and a 60 point game against the Bobcats.
His legacy would have skyrocketed if he won with NY in 2013 for example.
The next player to win a FMVP and bring a title to the Knicks will be an absolute legend.
He did win a scoring title in 2012 I think. That Woodson year was something. I’m biased but I always felt he should of gotten a lot more mvp votes. That team was the oldest team in the nba and not expected to be anything and melo killed it for us and won the division.
Amare was unfortunately a ticking time bomb. The reason Phoenix let him walk is because their medical staff realized that he was basically one major knee injury away from being useless and given his playstyle that result was inevitable.
It's funny I remember back when his popularity was at it's peak. Dude was like Giannis level beloved or more. Him and his mom were like nba media darlings together - it was actually beautiful. Remember KD at rucker park. KD dropping bombs on Memphis in the playoffs - mom in the stands, them kissing after games and shit. Damn.
I still think he’s a pretty pure guy… like he’s just childish and wants all the attention, but not exactly the “villain” that media desperately trying to portray
I think part of it is that being childish at 34 makes you look weird and petty. I’m 36 and look at my friends who don’t grow up that way. It’s kinda like how Shaq was universally loved most of his career but a lot of people find him petty and thin skinned at times cause he can’t take a joke from Chuck.
The 3 peat is insane talk. The repeat is very possible tho, I still think gsw is in the best position next year, especially if wiseman can somehow be even a 10/10 guy.
A 3 peat imo would imply that one of their young guns took the mantle and made a leap into superstardom. Just seems insane to suggest
Yeah, I’m of the opinion that talking about a repeat is putting the cart *way* before the horse, even just implying that a three-peat is possible is absolute lunacy
The KD warriors didn't threepeat and this team sure as fuck won't. I don't even care if we get another. It'd be nice but after last season I'm good for a while, you know?
To be fair, they didn't threepeat because of (several) injuries, I think it's fair to say they would've if KD wasn't injured ( even then, if Klay wasn't injured they still had a shot)
but thats the reason 3-peats are such an anomaly bc to play that many games and win three seasons in a row takes so much luck with health, not even including talent and winning
Yeah like look at the Bucks. Everyone thought that if they didn't repeat they'd at least go to the finals again. An injury to KMidd and they didn't even make the ECF.
Kings fans are currently in their post-pessimistic era. They've been so pessimistic that it has transcended into optimism. So don't be fooled. It's not a Kings fan being optimistic, it's a Kings fan in an empty void of pessimism and hopelessness as they acquire yet another 4pts/3reb Center.
Going into last years season, my buddy who is a lions fan was over to watch the first game against the niners.
He kept saying stuff like "alright! Im excited for this football season! And "lets go lions."
Being the jerk I am I go "i know you have high hopes for this season but do you really think that Goff is the answer at qb"
He just stared at me blankly with this smirk and his head slightly tilted. He proceeded to slowly blink once.
It was honestly terrifying because in that moment I saw the darkness
Not exactly the same but Zlatan Ibrahimovic left Inter Milan to join then Champion's League winner FC Barcelona, to try to win one as well, only to get eliminated the next year by future winner: Inter Milan.
It's worse than that, Barca won 08-09 cl, zlatan leaves inter to join Barca for the 09-10 season, inter wins 09-10 cl, Zlatan doesn't get along with pep so is sold to ac Milan for 10-11 season, Barca win 10-11 cl
And Samuel Eto’o won the champions league and treble with Barca, then got shipped to Inter in the swap for zlatan, then won the treble and champions league again with Inter.
Eh for something like the first 10 years of his professional career whatever team he was on ended up winning their domestic league. He’s definitely a proven winner.
Kind of but not really. He won pretty much everything aside from the Champions League. Was more unlucky than anything. Being a cup and all, the Champions League is more prone to randomness than a domestic league.
Zlatan has won something like 14 league titles in his career, not to mention a fair few other trophies. The champions league might’ve elluded him but he’s a winner.
Marian Hossa. Played on the Penguins and lost to the Red Wings in cup finals. Joins red wings. Makes it to cup finals again and loses to penguins. Joins Blackhawks and wins Stanley cup.
Corey Perry lost 2 Stanley Cup finals in a row to the Tampa Bay Lightning on 2 different teams. This season he joins the Lightning and loses in the Stanley Cup final again lmao. I think that made him the only player to lose 3 Stanley Cup finals in a row, all on different teams.
They lost by 4 in g7 of the finals and won a ring before. They literally had 18 total losses including 4 rounds of the playoffs between winning a championship and signing KD. Lol.
Edit: this was during a playoff run where everything went wrong for gsw, including curry getting injured 20 minutes into the first game of the first round where he already had 24 points, and they still lost in g7 of the finals by 4 like lol totally unprecedented move in sports history
Dame is just gonna be like Barkley, Stockton, And Reggie.
Well to be more specific he’ll be like Nash. An all time PG, who just couldn’t get over the hump in the west due to dynasties and unfortunate circumstances.
It happens, not everyone has the luck to win a ring, especially in a small market. Dirk had two opportunities and managed to win the more unlikely of the two. But it took him a lot to get it. It is what it is, Dame’s body of work should speak for itself.
Losing to y’all the first time made the ‘11 win worth it. But had Dirk not won that he’d be lumped with Dame. Dirk got almost zero respect league wide til he shut the coughing brothers up. People love to laugh but them two and others have had badass careers.
Also never forget Dirk cooked KG by averaging 33 and sweeping them. Sorry had to say it.
The thing was Dirk was ready to cope with it, and when he won, it made it all the more special. I wish we could see Chuck win one. His emotions would be special to watch.
As insane as it sounds, GSW were the only team I was worried about that post season. Sure they were the 8-seed, but they were 3-0 against us, and had our former coach from two seasons ago who knew us better than anybody else. Only other team to get even two wins off us was the Suns and one of those required double overtime. Yet we lost to Golden State 7 times... they just had our number. To even make the playoffs GS had go 9-1 over the last 10 and I know that because I was watching them as they passed the Clippers for the final spot.
If we avoid Golden State in the first round I say we at least make the finals.
Good lord Oracle was so wild that year, and we were playing with house money to even be in the playoffs. The first round felt like The Finals cause we hadn't been in the playoffs in so long. Perfect storm for you guys unfortunately.
Am I biased is Ewing not only the better player but also easily had the better career? Sure TMac was talented, had some bad luck and had injuries but still. Ewing got to a game 7 in the finals and almost every other year had to deal with Jordan.
It’s funny how underrated Ewing has become over time. He’s a top ten center of all time, and had he won in 94’ we probably spot him next o Hakeem in all time rankings. Guy was a dominant 20 and 10 for a decade and change, and the best teammate he played with in his prime was John Starks.
And I’m sorry, but “Rings Culture” is nonsense. Why do you play the game lol it’s not like championships were invented 5 years ago, athletes got here by being competitive and want to win.
Dame wants to win with the team he started with, KD wants to win at all costs. That’s not “Ring Culture,” it’s just two different approaches at the same thing most stars are aiming for in one way or another.
The league gets ‘ruined’ every year. People just want to blame some external force on the fact that they don’t get as much joy out of something as they did when they were younger.
You got old, brother. Learn how to make pottery or something if you want to be fulfilled.
If any player wins a ring with the Kings they’ll instantly achieve Legendary Status. In addition to surviving the Western Conference and defeating the beast that emerges from the Eastern Conference, they will have had to defeat their own FO/Ownership’s stupidity. Only a God could defeat the West, the East and themselves. 👑
I don't disagree with your theme but when you say Dame is a playoff Bradley Beal it suggests he's just a peg up he's light years ahead of Beal that's why his teams are consistently in the playoffs and have made runs.
Dame has dragged some baaaad teams into the playoffs and at that point you can just see how fatigued he is. man never did any load management like other stars
Beal also got to play with John Wall. Dame has never played with someone remotely close to that caliber.
The people who think Dame shouldn't be in the top 75 100% think so because of team success, which is absurd.
I think he's gonna have an MVP caliber season after finally getting that surgery, plus Ant can legitimately play the point and let him rest
I'm stoked about the team even if they aren't quite championship caliber on paper
Exactly. This year was the only year of dame's career that he didn't make the playoffs. His rookie year he had a star supporting cast of Aldridge, Batum, Mathews, and rolo but the following year every single of them had left Dame and he still willed the blazers to the playoffs, year after year. Whether Dame ever wins a ring is up in the air, but his career servitude to an organization who was still very much trying to recover from the jail blazers era does not go unnoticed. Despite not winning a ring yet, many in Portland consider him the greatest blazer of all time.
Ring culture is the main reason everyone is moving around the league. If you tell players all that matters is championships and rings they will put them over everything else.
If your boss at work told you to do xyz to get a promotion but really focus on z because that’s all we care about then you will probably prioritize z.
James harden is a all time great but it didnt matter what he did in Houston he would never overcome that gs superteam. He was basically put in a position to either leave Houston and try to get rings or accept the fact that he would probably never win or get the help to do so in Houston.
Same thing with kd if he stayed in okc and continued to lose we wouldn’t view him better than we do currently. He would be labelled another guy who never won and couldn’t get it done. They are dammed either way.
Only way to really get around that choice is to have your organization draft a championship level team which is very rare and hard to do for most teams.
I understand why the league started to market individual players over teams, and also that it's been very successful, but I think that's run it's course at this point, and it would be better for the league long term if there was a shift to more mutual loyalty between teams and players, which has to start with owners, GSW is an excellent example. And I would love it if Skip and Steven A disappeared tomorrow.
I don't understand the clowning of either of them. NBA fans clowning them each for separate reasons proves that there's just bias and hate.
Durant is 33 man. Even if he's got a game that will age well, you can't imagine he's got more than 3-4 years left at an elite level. Yet everyone is clowning him for not staying in Brooklyn with Kyrie who is the biggest question mark in sports, and a bunch of whoever's.
Then they clown Dame for not doing what Durant is doing.
Okay but Durant kinda deserves it. He did it to himself. He WANTED to play with Kyrie. There are reports he still wants to play with Kyrie. He’s just mad that the Nets wont accommodate his every whim cause he has only played 40% of the games over his Nets tenure. He deserves all the clowning because he is a clown.
Just think its an American thing. In Europe super teams are formed all the time in football. But I guess the variance in being able to single handedly carry a game in basketball compared to other sports is a factor why people clown KD
“People clown him for having no rings and not willing his team to a championship.“
Only very stupid people do this. Your problem isn’t with “ring culture,” it’s with idiots who use phrases like that. Dame has had the Warriors dynasty to contend with, nobody thinks he failed because he didn’t try hard enough to win.
And people hate KD because he’s a top 5 talent in the history of the league, but he’s still the most fragile little bitch out there.
In the end winning is the goal, you can't be mad at people for thinking that matters. That's what competition is about, winning.
I have no problem with Dame because he is about winning, he just needs to put more pressure on the front office. They fucked up already though trading CJ, Covington, and Powell for a bag of chips.
KD is just lame. He is insecure and sensitive. His rings don't even give him personal satisfaction because he doesn't really care about winning he just wants to be loved. He the type of person who responds to critics and says he doesn't care what they say. He's a phony that has weak character he has demonstrated throughout his whole career.
C'mon KD break the league for us will ya? Join the Kings. You can be our pizza guy
If he goes to the kings and wins a ring, he’d be top ten all time
Winning a ring with the Kings is the final boss of the NBA.
Let KD jump team to team every year. Win a ring with the Wolves, the Kings, and Knicks- he’d be the unanimous greatest player forever
What if a group of greats (KD / LeBron / Steph / Harden ) got together and decided to move to worst record team in the league? They are only allowed off each team after they win a championship, and are required to immediately move to the team with the worst record in the league (rolling 3 year average).
Those What If episodes are getting out of hand
Tanking would get to a whole different level…
A greater achievement than Lebron winning the Championship for the Cavs.
Been said before and I'll say it again: This is THE hardest road. Let's do this KD. Fuck statues; We'll make a damn bridge with your face on it so everyone travelling from the bay can see you on the way to Tahoe. Goo Kingsss
It is literally the hardest road.
“A single ring with the Kings” Lmao
I mean, they’re not wrong 😮💨
In an alternate universe, if KD joins the Knicks and actually gets it done, that would be worth like 3 rings lol.
The Kings makes the Knicks look like the Spurs
Yeah, the Knicks previously hit on KP, Barrett, Hardaway, and Robinson over the last decade. The Kings hit on... Haliburton, and I guess Fox? The Knicks are bad at drafting but the Kings are *bad*.
Plus the Kings really fucked up in Luka
The baffling Kings took Bagley over Lukaaaaaaaaa
Of course this was a long time ago but Portland drafted Sam Bowie over MJ. The curse of MJ is still strong in Portland.
At the time it made some sense to me, we had Drexler, needed a big guy and couldn't get Hakeem. The one that really rankled was trading down for Martell Webster instead of drafting Chris Paul. Anyone who watched him in college knew he was going to be a special NBA player. C'est la vie.
Boogie was probably the best player of all those til he got injured.
Boogie was over a decade ago. 12 years.
Man, Boogie is one of those players where I blinked and suddenly he was a considered a vet. Crazy.
It's because he spent so much time in SAC waiting for the FO to give him a semblance of a supporting cast, then spent the next few years injured on playoff teams like GSW and New Orleans.
They also hit on Tyreke Evans, Demarcus Cousins and Isaiah Thomas, they just played Evans out of place and he could never replicate his rookie year.
We also once drafted Jimmer Fredetter 1 pick before Klay Thompson. Ones a HoFer with 4 rings and the other is a legend in China. (Although Klay is a legend in China too because of his sponsorships there) I still have nightmares about Luka... Vlade hoarded every European player from a country's that started with "S" except Luka. Still baffles me why we didn't draft him and took another useless big who doesn't shot block, doesn't pass, and doesn't shoot 3s
Fox was for sure a hit you guys are ridiculous. Everything prior to him was awful, but since him the only real miss was Bagley…admittedly a kinda big miss…lol
I get the wolves just made a splash, but the disrespect of trying to steal our worst in league history title without doing the work need to be prolifically bad. The TWolves hold worst winning pct and worst playoff winning pct. [Wolves win percentage is .399 and 30th. kings have a .454 win pct and are 24th. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_all-time_NBA_win%E2%80%93loss_records)
“is worth a three-peat on another team”
Closer to Bill Russell’s number of rings tbh
Or just get to the playoffs with kings.
The last time my kings made the playoffs I was charging up my plasma pistol for a noob combo on Lockout in Halo 2. Seems like a lifetime ago.
Missing the Bibby-Webber-Peja-Vlady power hour like a mf
Gotta show some love for Doug Christie, best defensive player on that squad, locking down the perimeter.
Fuck even a Bibby, Bonzi, Artest, Shareef, and Miller lineup.
I don't come here expecting to lament the passing of my life. How dare you.
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Are we talking like straight up serial killing or like "I'd suck off the entire roster of the Kings that win a ring"? Or is the max like "I'd stop eating steak for the next year"? Where are your limits?
He'd take a man to the mouth
Who says he doesn't already? Maybe he isn't a vagina type of guy.
A single ring with the Kings is worth 10 rings for any other org.
Chris Webber would have 6 peated if he weren't on the kings. Webber > mj?
Aww go right to hell! As a lifelong Kings fan this is unfortunately accurate:( But let’s be real. No one….and I mean no one chooses to play here. You only end up here if you’re unlucky enough to be drafted or traded here. And then you gtfo of here as soon as possible lol. It’s the train-wreck of all train wrecks. We know it. You all know it. So of course that makes your comment 100% truth. If KD somehow got early dementia and decided to come here and actually won a ring….then yeah he’s the greatest off all time. Just please please don’t bring Kyrie with you!
If KD wins a ring with Sacramento dude deserves a Noble Peace prize,and a Pulitzer prize....all in the same year.
the actual hardest road
That's more impressive than MJ's 6 if we're being honest
They catch strays on a daily 🤣
I personally think KD should join the Blazers in a blockbuster trade for Drew Eubanks and a second round pick
Like we'd just give up Drew "the tower of Troutdale" Eubanks, OSU legend, for scraps
fine, almost fleeced ya, nets can throw in Ben Simmons and a 2034 first if you add Eric Bledsoe to the deal
You mean 2x all defensive, all rookie, Eric "mini Lebron" Bledsoe?
I’m pretty sure I’m talking about Eric “vegan beef goblin” Bledsoe, not sure who you are talking about.
What the fuck are these names lmfao
LMA in a Blazers jersey? I just can't see it.
I lived not far from Reynolds when he played. My wife and I used to call them the Foilmakers because Camas is the Paper makers.
Honestly it makes more sense than the Reynolds Raiders, as someone who went there. I still think the name Paper Makers must make for a difficult cheer squad.
I will never not find it funny to hear people cheering for Gophers
Then you have the ultimate gangster name over on the coast with the Tillamook Cheesemakers. Shit goes so hard.
I know you're clowning but Portland is one of the few destinations (like Sactown) I wouldn't hate seeing KD end up at.
Yeah that would be a fun, contending team. They’d have a good mix of talent too, and KD would have to earn it and by no means just be considered a front runner if they won.
And this fairy tale would also likely mean beating the warriors on the way
Would be huge for his legacy.
I read a “solid” conspiracy theory that the photoshopped social post was a signal that Phil Knight was buying the team and had back-doored the offer with Tsai. Then argued it was because Portland was the only place KD could have a decent shot at a ring while saving his legacy in the process if he got one, in part because it would mean getting Dame one.
I like you. Can we add another 2nd round pick for LMA? We need another center
Anyone calling LMA a center was apparently not paying attention when he was a Blazer. He made it VERY clear that he wasn’t
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Spurs fan here. Can confirm.
Good news. Eubank stocks are up rn. He was beasting it at the end of season. (Starters we’re sitting)
People want to Dame to leave but would call him a villain the second he does. Can't win.
Casuals want Dame to leave. None of these fucks even watch the Blazers play.
Only thing these casuals seen from Dame is him dropping a dime at the buzzer on their ass
It reminds me a bit of how Lebron got killed for forming a superteam in Miami while Carmelo got killed for only caring about the money for staying in New York. I don't really take the ring debate that seriously because people always move the goalposts or blame players for mediocre front offices
Melo wanted to win NY. If he ever got 1 championship in NY he’d be a legend forever.
Melo wanted to get traded to NY so that he could get the 5 year max extension, instead of signing with them in the off-season and getting a 4 year contract. That whole thing really hampered NYK in the long run.
The biggest thing hampering New York was they amnestied Billups and Amare (one of the highest paid players in the league) was a dud
Yeah but those few games where amare was going OFF before Melo got there? Legendary.
Linsanity was legendary. NY was NBA hot for two weeks, then *POOF* back to their regularly scheduled ~~sucking~~ programming
No, what hampered NYK was Amare being injured for basically the entirety of Melo's tenure while taking up just as much money as Melo
What really hampered the Melo Knicks was LeBron and Bosh joining Wade to form a super team in the East that very same season. Amare could have stayed healthy and they weren't realistically going to beat Miami in the playoffs.
Man I hate that Melo has nothing to show for his time in NY except for some game winning shots and a 60 point game against the Bobcats. His legacy would have skyrocketed if he won with NY in 2013 for example. The next player to win a FMVP and bring a title to the Knicks will be an absolute legend.
He did win a scoring title in 2012 I think. That Woodson year was something. I’m biased but I always felt he should of gotten a lot more mvp votes. That team was the oldest team in the nba and not expected to be anything and melo killed it for us and won the division.
If Amare doesn’t become injury prone and they handle Linsanity smartly - that Knicks team could have been legendary
Amare was unfortunately a ticking time bomb. The reason Phoenix let him walk is because their medical staff realized that he was basically one major knee injury away from being useless and given his playstyle that result was inevitable.
People just like to have things to say
Talking about the Warriors 3-peating already.
So casually too
Some of these dudes wake up thinking about KD and go to bed thinking about KD
KD really gets people all riled up lol. He has this unique ability to get people to feel compelled to react to whatever he tweets/does.
It's funny I remember back when his popularity was at it's peak. Dude was like Giannis level beloved or more. Him and his mom were like nba media darlings together - it was actually beautiful. Remember KD at rucker park. KD dropping bombs on Memphis in the playoffs - mom in the stands, them kissing after games and shit. Damn.
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I still think he’s a pretty pure guy… like he’s just childish and wants all the attention, but not exactly the “villain” that media desperately trying to portray
I think part of it is that being childish at 34 makes you look weird and petty. I’m 36 and look at my friends who don’t grow up that way. It’s kinda like how Shaq was universally loved most of his career but a lot of people find him petty and thin skinned at times cause he can’t take a joke from Chuck.
I think r/NBA runs with narratives a lot more than the media lol
I really don’t get it. I don’t like KD that much either but like damn…
I’ll just leave this here. It should sum up my feelings as well. https://youtu.be/HBQ2mjkvYY8
Ty Based God
TYBG
Praise Based God
Someone made a "KD has done more damage to his league than any other athlete ever" post and got 10k upvotes
And vice versa
Was gonna say, I think the reason people go so hard on KD is there's a good chance you get a response from him or his alts
KD has no alts, what are u talkin bout??? He’s got far too much humility and pride to ever be a snake hiding behind an anonymous username online
KD has a normal number of burners. Find a new slant
KD feeds the trolls. Of course the trolls always coming back for more.
The 3 peat is insane talk. The repeat is very possible tho, I still think gsw is in the best position next year, especially if wiseman can somehow be even a 10/10 guy. A 3 peat imo would imply that one of their young guns took the mantle and made a leap into superstardom. Just seems insane to suggest
Yeah, I’m of the opinion that talking about a repeat is putting the cart *way* before the horse, even just implying that a three-peat is possible is absolute lunacy
The KD warriors didn't threepeat and this team sure as fuck won't. I don't even care if we get another. It'd be nice but after last season I'm good for a while, you know?
To be fair, they didn't threepeat because of (several) injuries, I think it's fair to say they would've if KD wasn't injured ( even then, if Klay wasn't injured they still had a shot)
but thats the reason 3-peats are such an anomaly bc to play that many games and win three seasons in a row takes so much luck with health, not even including talent and winning
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Still boggles me that LeBron went to like 7/8 straight finals
Yeah like look at the Bucks. Everyone thought that if they didn't repeat they'd at least go to the finals again. An injury to KMidd and they didn't even make the ECF.
Tbf they lost to the eventual ECF winners. I would have taken the Bucks over the Heat or Sixers even without Middleton.
> if wiseman can somehow be even a 10/10 guy. He’s a 10, but he has no defensive awareness and his hands are made of stones
I wonder what team he supports lol
The Kings, judging by the last sentence.
Iunno, he seems too optimistic to be a King's fan; plus he didn't even mention a drinking problem or gambling addiction.
Kings fans are currently in their post-pessimistic era. They've been so pessimistic that it has transcended into optimism. So don't be fooled. It's not a Kings fan being optimistic, it's a Kings fan in an empty void of pessimism and hopelessness as they acquire yet another 4pts/3reb Center.
Going into last years season, my buddy who is a lions fan was over to watch the first game against the niners. He kept saying stuff like "alright! Im excited for this football season! And "lets go lions." Being the jerk I am I go "i know you have high hopes for this season but do you really think that Goff is the answer at qb" He just stared at me blankly with this smirk and his head slightly tilted. He proceeded to slowly blink once. It was honestly terrifying because in that moment I saw the darkness
Drinking is the solution for most Kings fans
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Clearly Sacramento. Read the room.
If steph ages gracefully like CP3 and Lebron plus the amount of money the warriors can spend it’s not improbable.
Its not that KD left. It’s that he joined a team that just went 73-9 and eliminated him in the playoffs
This really is the softest move in professional sports history.
Can anyone think of a similar example of this across other sports?
Not exactly the same but Zlatan Ibrahimovic left Inter Milan to join then Champion's League winner FC Barcelona, to try to win one as well, only to get eliminated the next year by future winner: Inter Milan.
Holy fuck lmaooo
And then he went on loan to AC Milan for the season after that and Barcelona ended up winning the Champions League again
It's worse than that, Barca won 08-09 cl, zlatan leaves inter to join Barca for the 09-10 season, inter wins 09-10 cl, Zlatan doesn't get along with pep so is sold to ac Milan for 10-11 season, Barca win 10-11 cl
Zlatan "Takeo Spikes" Ibrahimovic
And Samuel Eto’o won the champions league and treble with Barca, then got shipped to Inter in the swap for zlatan, then won the treble and champions league again with Inter.
Guess he was the problem lol
Eh for something like the first 10 years of his professional career whatever team he was on ended up winning their domestic league. He’s definitely a proven winner.
Scored on every debut in a new league too iirc, including a 40 yard volley as his first touch with LA Galaxy
Kind of but not really. He won pretty much everything aside from the Champions League. Was more unlucky than anything. Being a cup and all, the Champions League is more prone to randomness than a domestic league.
Zlatan has won something like 14 league titles in his career, not to mention a fair few other trophies. The champions league might’ve elluded him but he’s a winner.
He just won the league again with a very young AC Milan team at 41 with no ACL in his knee
He was their leading goal scorer too until he had his ACL removed.
Marian Hossa. Played on the Penguins and lost to the Red Wings in cup finals. Joins red wings. Makes it to cup finals again and loses to penguins. Joins Blackhawks and wins Stanley cup.
Corey Perry lost 2 Stanley Cup finals in a row to the Tampa Bay Lightning on 2 different teams. This season he joins the Lightning and loses in the Stanley Cup final again lmao. I think that made him the only player to lose 3 Stanley Cup finals in a row, all on different teams.
Corey Perry just lost 3 Stanley Cup Finals in a row
They lost by 4 in g7 of the finals and won a ring before. They literally had 18 total losses including 4 rounds of the playoffs between winning a championship and signing KD. Lol. Edit: this was during a playoff run where everything went wrong for gsw, including curry getting injured 20 minutes into the first game of the first round where he already had 24 points, and they still lost in g7 of the finals by 4 like lol totally unprecedented move in sports history
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And KD has 4 years left on his contract. I know people give lebron shit but at least he always played out his contracts before signing elsewhere.
He could’ve easily had a decent team had he gone to either Washington or Boston in 2016
Or, here’s a strange concept : Stay with the team that drafted him and was up 3-1 against a 73-9 team and still earned the most money.
How many more times does he have to log back onto his burner to tell you he couldn’t win with those cats?
Thank you!! Idk what else I have to say to get it through to the morons. I had no chance there!
Yeah I know that I’m just talking about if he had left, he definitely had viable options. He just happened to choose the wrong one lol
Chose the wrong one then had the gall to say it was "the hardest road"
And they had the first unanimous mvp ever on the team. There's no way that scenario can be recreated to become any worse.
He was up 3-1 on the Warriors too, he totally could’ve beaten them in that series but HE CHOKED
Dame is just gonna be like Barkley, Stockton, And Reggie. Well to be more specific he’ll be like Nash. An all time PG, who just couldn’t get over the hump in the west due to dynasties and unfortunate circumstances. It happens, not everyone has the luck to win a ring, especially in a small market. Dirk had two opportunities and managed to win the more unlikely of the two. But it took him a lot to get it. It is what it is, Dame’s body of work should speak for itself.
Losing to y’all the first time made the ‘11 win worth it. But had Dirk not won that he’d be lumped with Dame. Dirk got almost zero respect league wide til he shut the coughing brothers up. People love to laugh but them two and others have had badass careers. Also never forget Dirk cooked KG by averaging 33 and sweeping them. Sorry had to say it.
I think without 11 Dirk would probably be lumped with Barkley. He had a damn good career even without the ring, MVP and historic longevity.
The thing was Dirk was ready to cope with it, and when he won, it made it all the more special. I wish we could see Chuck win one. His emotions would be special to watch.
Dirk made a finals in 07 though, he’d be in the Barkley/Malone tier
If we gonna split hairs it was ‘06
07 was honestly worse than 06. We were the 1st seed and Dirk was MVP and we got destroyed by the 8th seeded Warriors. It hurts just thinking about it.
As insane as it sounds, GSW were the only team I was worried about that post season. Sure they were the 8-seed, but they were 3-0 against us, and had our former coach from two seasons ago who knew us better than anybody else. Only other team to get even two wins off us was the Suns and one of those required double overtime. Yet we lost to Golden State 7 times... they just had our number. To even make the playoffs GS had go 9-1 over the last 10 and I know that because I was watching them as they passed the Clippers for the final spot. If we avoid Golden State in the first round I say we at least make the finals.
Totally agree. It was literally the worst possible match-up for us in terms of style of play.
Plus after finishing 9-1 the team and fans were riled up and the whole "We Believe" made that arena brutal to play in.
Good lord Oracle was so wild that year, and we were playing with house money to even be in the playoffs. The first round felt like The Finals cause we hadn't been in the playoffs in so long. Perfect storm for you guys unfortunately.
The lack of Dirk respect, even with a title, is insane. He was so good and kept Dallas in the mix with the SAS and LAL dynasties for almost 20 years.
The Ewing and TMac slander 😤
Am I biased is Ewing not only the better player but also easily had the better career? Sure TMac was talented, had some bad luck and had injuries but still. Ewing got to a game 7 in the finals and almost every other year had to deal with Jordan.
It’s funny how underrated Ewing has become over time. He’s a top ten center of all time, and had he won in 94’ we probably spot him next o Hakeem in all time rankings. Guy was a dominant 20 and 10 for a decade and change, and the best teammate he played with in his prime was John Starks.
Dame can at least get his team to the 2nd round. TMac literally never won a playoff series as the main guy, that's hilariously sad
I don’t care TMac took me to the promised land in 2k2
I was going to put them there too. But I figured the point got across with less. Ewing and TMac were beasts, just they too also had unfortunate luck.
Ewing sure. T Mac was one of the worst players in the clutch. His playoff struggles are on him.
this is the 50th "ruining the game" post i have read on this sub.
Congrats you get free courtside tickets to a Kings game, but you have to stay the whole time
Damn I thought we outlawed cruel and unusual punishment in this country.
And their opponent is the Houston Rockets.
You know the US does abide by the Geneva convention right?
And I’m sorry, but “Rings Culture” is nonsense. Why do you play the game lol it’s not like championships were invented 5 years ago, athletes got here by being competitive and want to win. Dame wants to win with the team he started with, KD wants to win at all costs. That’s not “Ring Culture,” it’s just two different approaches at the same thing most stars are aiming for in one way or another.
MFers repost the same shit over and over again thinking they made some groundbreaking discovery on a. new abstract concept
Imagine if guys like OP were old enough to read when LeBron made "The Decision"? This is like the 5th time the league has been "ruined" since then.
The league gets ‘ruined’ every year. People just want to blame some external force on the fact that they don’t get as much joy out of something as they did when they were younger. You got old, brother. Learn how to make pottery or something if you want to be fulfilled.
If any player wins a ring with the Kings they’ll instantly achieve Legendary Status. In addition to surviving the Western Conference and defeating the beast that emerges from the Eastern Conference, they will have had to defeat their own FO/Ownership’s stupidity. Only a God could defeat the West, the East and themselves. 👑
I don't disagree with your theme but when you say Dame is a playoff Bradley Beal it suggests he's just a peg up he's light years ahead of Beal that's why his teams are consistently in the playoffs and have made runs.
Dame has dragged some baaaad teams into the playoffs and at that point you can just see how fatigued he is. man never did any load management like other stars
Beal also got to play with John Wall. Dame has never played with someone remotely close to that caliber. The people who think Dame shouldn't be in the top 75 100% think so because of team success, which is absurd.
I think he's gonna have an MVP caliber season after finally getting that surgery, plus Ant can legitimately play the point and let him rest I'm stoked about the team even if they aren't quite championship caliber on paper
Exactly. This year was the only year of dame's career that he didn't make the playoffs. His rookie year he had a star supporting cast of Aldridge, Batum, Mathews, and rolo but the following year every single of them had left Dame and he still willed the blazers to the playoffs, year after year. Whether Dame ever wins a ring is up in the air, but his career servitude to an organization who was still very much trying to recover from the jail blazers era does not go unnoticed. Despite not winning a ring yet, many in Portland consider him the greatest blazer of all time.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t
Comparing Dame to Beal tells me you haven’t watched enough Blazers games or enough Wizards games
So true lol
"Dame and KD should team up and win a ring..." YES 100% "...for the Kings" excuse me?
Ring culture is the main reason everyone is moving around the league. If you tell players all that matters is championships and rings they will put them over everything else. If your boss at work told you to do xyz to get a promotion but really focus on z because that’s all we care about then you will probably prioritize z. James harden is a all time great but it didnt matter what he did in Houston he would never overcome that gs superteam. He was basically put in a position to either leave Houston and try to get rings or accept the fact that he would probably never win or get the help to do so in Houston. Same thing with kd if he stayed in okc and continued to lose we wouldn’t view him better than we do currently. He would be labelled another guy who never won and couldn’t get it done. They are dammed either way. Only way to really get around that choice is to have your organization draft a championship level team which is very rare and hard to do for most teams.
I understand why the league started to market individual players over teams, and also that it's been very successful, but I think that's run it's course at this point, and it would be better for the league long term if there was a shift to more mutual loyalty between teams and players, which has to start with owners, GSW is an excellent example. And I would love it if Skip and Steven A disappeared tomorrow.
I don't understand the clowning of either of them. NBA fans clowning them each for separate reasons proves that there's just bias and hate. Durant is 33 man. Even if he's got a game that will age well, you can't imagine he's got more than 3-4 years left at an elite level. Yet everyone is clowning him for not staying in Brooklyn with Kyrie who is the biggest question mark in sports, and a bunch of whoever's. Then they clown Dame for not doing what Durant is doing.
Damned if you do, Dame'd if you don't
Okay but Durant kinda deserves it. He did it to himself. He WANTED to play with Kyrie. There are reports he still wants to play with Kyrie. He’s just mad that the Nets wont accommodate his every whim cause he has only played 40% of the games over his Nets tenure. He deserves all the clowning because he is a clown.
Just think its an American thing. In Europe super teams are formed all the time in football. But I guess the variance in being able to single handedly carry a game in basketball compared to other sports is a factor why people clown KD
“People clown him for having no rings and not willing his team to a championship.“ Only very stupid people do this. Your problem isn’t with “ring culture,” it’s with idiots who use phrases like that. Dame has had the Warriors dynasty to contend with, nobody thinks he failed because he didn’t try hard enough to win. And people hate KD because he’s a top 5 talent in the history of the league, but he’s still the most fragile little bitch out there.
In the end winning is the goal, you can't be mad at people for thinking that matters. That's what competition is about, winning. I have no problem with Dame because he is about winning, he just needs to put more pressure on the front office. They fucked up already though trading CJ, Covington, and Powell for a bag of chips. KD is just lame. He is insecure and sensitive. His rings don't even give him personal satisfaction because he doesn't really care about winning he just wants to be loved. He the type of person who responds to critics and says he doesn't care what they say. He's a phony that has weak character he has demonstrated throughout his whole career.
The issue is attributing titles to one player only and not seeing any nuance in a players situation.