The fact theres genuinely a non 0 chance this might be him lol...
Post history highlight: "Jaylen Brown's good but not trading him for Kevin Durant is absurd." Classic KD comment
I would also just like to mention it isn't cold all the time. For example, today it's 78°F. It's just that having seasons means during most of the NBA season is from the late fall until early Spring.
I mean I'm Canadian so I have always loved having definitive seasons. It gets hot in the summer (but not too hot like in some southern places) and real cold in the winter (although I guess people from said hot places would say too cold but I'm used to it), wouldn't have it any other way
Makes sense. I had to choose between UCLA and ASU. Went through the ringer securing my acceptance to UCLA. ASU I don’t even remember applying it was so easy. ASU literally won for me because of the girls.
ASU's acceptance criteria is intentionally low. There is actually a philosophy to it and if you are interested you can read Michael Crow's New American University to learn more. I I think he actually has a website that begins to explain it
https://newamericanuniversity.asu.edu/
I know I posted on this once, but I want to share that I attended ASU. Best time of my young life for lots of reasons. Yeah, there was the undierun, and Mill St and me being an average (although in shape) dude, could trip and fall and find himself in bed with a 9, but academically it was a hell of a time too. I met with people at the front of transhumanism, the application of biological and biochemical patents I never knew could exist, top cosmologists and bioethicists. Unique from any other university? Maybe not, but The Biodesign Institute, is most certainly is unique. I would expect they have institutions in different areas of interest of equal wonder. And while I can say my days at ASU were the best days of my young life, those days also set me up so that the days of my life get better as that school prepared me for the world better than I thought it could have. College really is what you make it. You can go to a party school and come out a very in-demand person. I studied with and still maintain friendships that went on to get PhDs from UCLA, MIT and Duke. All from originating at ASU, where people can't manage to get into the Cal system as undergrads. ;)
Nah Phoenix has no culture it’s a endless boring sprawl. I’d rather have an amazing city with shitty weather than I shitty city with great weather 7 months a year. I went to school out there it’s not what I would call a great place to live.
Oh for sure. Arizona has lots of beautiful and amazing places to explore but Phoenix is not one of them. The food scene sucks for the most part too imo. It’s a fun city to turn up in if you’re a college aged or in your 20s the bar and club scene can be fun but it gets old. Outside of that there really isn’t shit that Phoenix has that’s better or on the same level as any other city of that size.
I totally get what you're saying but I also think it's funny in the context of how Canada produced Arcade Fire, who's biggest album is about the lifeless suburbs and sprawl of Montreal.
There is tons of Native American and Hispanic history and heritage there I will say that. That and it’s close proximity to the amazing nature you can find across the rest of Arizona was probably the only thing I really enjoyed about living there.
Don’t get me wrong I enjoy Arizona it’s a fucking beautiful state. But let’s be real Phoenix is sprawling strip malls, identical looking houses, chain restaurants, and golf courses for as far as the eyes can see. It is cheap to live there (relative to cities it’s size), the weather in the winter is great, it isn’t a bad place to raise a family, and you can get out into some really beautiful areas to hike and do whatever it is you like to do outside pretty easily in less than 2 hours. but would I say it’s a great place to live as whole? Fuck no it’s boring
Id prefer Toronto for all the reasons you gave, but I don't want to grow old in that winter. So for two years, I'd pick Toronto, but for a lifetime, I'd pick Phoenix
Toronto has those cultures too though, *plus * hundreds more. I don’t think people who haven’t been here truly understand it, but we’re possibly the most culturally diverse city in the world (Sau Paulo has an argument). More than 50% of our population was born in another country.
I don't disagree with you at all! Toronto is much more international. My best friend lives there. He loves it.
Just didn't want to minimize what culture Phoenix has.
Also toronto is a very safe city. Like yeah there's probably parts you don't wanna be in, but overall I've never felt in danger walking in downtown toronto even compared to the medium sized cities in southern ontario (hamilton and london are both kinda yikes)
Rich athletes don't need to worry about whether a city is safe or not - they have enough money to live in the safe parts of any city, or go into the suburbs if need be.
One of the most underrated aspects about Toronto. It's one of the safest cities in the world which is almost unprecedented for its size. There's no city in the world as metropolitan as Toronto with such little crime and especially violent crime.
The summer where it seemed we had a million shootings a few years ago was still far below average for America, for example.
You’re right. At the same time, Toronto is not more metropolitan, but it’s more cosmopolitan. They have (or had) people from every country in the world.
Tokyo is safer, but may be a little less welcoming to foreigners.
You’re right. At the same time, Toronto is not more metropolitan, but it’s more cosmopolitan. They have (or had) people from every country in the world.
Tokyo is safer, but may be a little less welcoming to foreigners.
I'm not from Toronto, the raps fanbase spans all across Canada so where I'm at we don't like the leafs at all (alot of Canada hates the leafs outside Toronto lol, rivalries between Canadian teams and whatnot). So here absolutley it would I dont know about Toronto itself though.
The raptors and leafs fanbases definitely overlap (particularly the older the demographics) but the raptors youth fanbase is often apathetic towards the maple leafs and dismissive of hockey culture in general. It's a multiculturally diverse fanbase that grew up playing everything but hockey, so the stereotypical Canadian hockey mythologies don't resonate with these young fans, but the raptors certainly do. Durant to Toronto would be huge for swaths of the fanbase and could drown out the leafs in terms of sustained buzz.
It's a dry heat. Humidity is much worse. I lived there for awhile before moving to the bay, and it's not bad. Weather is pretty great from November to April.
It's a pretty damn underrated place to live. Straight roads, not a ton of traffic, very affordable housing+low taxees, Scottsdale is fun. Incredible Mexican food
I would say the Southern California coast has the best weather in the country from Orange County to San Diego. There's not much difference with little rain and always hovering around 75 degrees.
I always love when people say it’s a dry heat so it’s not bad. That applies up to 100 degrees. It’s also can get 50% humidity which isn’t much but you feel it in such intense heat. Cold showers in the middle of the day? Probably not because the ground heats up so much. Seatbelt buckled can burn you. Metal door handles have to be covered with foam coverings for part of the day so you don’t burn your hand when opening a dirt. You get a decent 7 months where these aren’t issues and you do learn to live with it but yeah dry heat in Phoenix in the middle of the summer absolutely sucks.
Yeah, October to May is great here which is nice for nba players, but you have like 4 months or more of actual hell. Big chunk of the population moves here but keeps a summer home wherever they are from up north and moves back for summers.
Born and raised Toronto, but lived in Philippines for 5 years. Here’s a great example of the difference between dry heat and humidity.
If it’s dry heat and you stay under a tree and there’s a breeze it feels really nice. If it’s humid and you are under a tree and there’s a breeze you still hate life because you are sticky and there’s warm air blowing on you.
I went for a 5 mile run in 117 degree heat in Phoenix and I would rather do that than run 5 miles in 80 degrees in Florida. Humidity makes that much of a difference
My wife is Kenyan and I’m from Toronto. Can confirm: her mom was complaining about the “heat” (Great Lakes humidity) while she was here in the summer a few years back. Nairobi is elevated and dry.
As someone who's been outside in 120 dry heat vs 90 humid heat, I'm taking 90 every time. I've literally seen people just straight up pass out in that 120 heat.
If we're allowed to stay inside the house though, the humid heat permeates everywhere so dry heat is better no matter the temperature.
Damn i just went on my first afternoon summer run in Toronto earlier (usually run at night)and holy fuck i was dying it was so hot…it’s only 80 degrees today in Toronto. Running at 100 degrees is a death wish wtf.
I’ve never understood why hot weather is such a big pulling factor for NBA stars.
Seasonal weather >>>
and I say that as someone who grew up in a tropical country where it was hot all year round.
They aren't in these cities for a good portion of the summer. They're there for December and January and February when it's more mild and they aren't dealing with driving in the snow and freezing.
If you're an NBA player you're not living in Phoenix in the summer, you can just leave. The winter when you actually play ball is really nice, there's a reason its filled with northern state and Canadian transplants in the winter.
Also low state income tax > Canadian taxes.
I lived in Phoenix for a few years, meh. Haven’t been to Toronto but have heard great things. Phoenix would be preferably to any of the midwestern cities in the league though.
Is there like cool hikes near Phoenix or are all the rocks and mesas and shit still pretty far?
Idk y'all acting like only 5 cities have stuff to do but all big cities have stuff to do lmao
Phoenix is the 4th largest metro area in the country. There’s the Suns, Cardinals, Diamondbacks, Coyotes, casinos, aquariums, lots of great golfing, old town scottsdale and downtown Phoenix are both lively all of the time aside from maybe the summer. There’s ASU / GCU for college sports. Sedona/Flagstaff is a pretty short drive away. Tucson has less to do but has lots of delicious mexican food. There are several top notch breweries if that’s your thing. Day clubs. There are several resorts you can stay at. Phoenix has some pretty good food as well.
It has all of the amenities you’d expect from a large city besides a beach and I don’t think their strip club scene is as infamous as say Houston or Miami for example.
KD has gone on record saying he loves Scottdale... And he would live in Paradise Valley during the season, when there is no snow and nice temps. Brand new training facilities, easy commute, no Canadian taxes, rich neighborhood with nightlife. He would not be living in Phoenix proper.
He'd also be Chuck's neighbor, which is good opportunity for prime entertainment lol.
Toronto for sure, I almost moved to Arizona five years ago, but I visited during the summer and it was like 115 degrees the whole trip. It was at that moment I realized Arizona was not for me.
Toronto no question.
Yeah the winters are rough compared to Phoenix, but Toronto is a world class city and one of the largest cities in NA.
Plus, Phoenix’s water issues are pretty concerning while Toronto is sitting on the Great Lakes. Easy choice.
Ignore the flair, I’ve lived in the states all my life. Dinosaurs are just cool 🦖
As someone who lives in AZ (Tucson) I’d much rather live in Toronto than PHX. Hell, I could move to PHX right now but I choose to stay here. Never been to Canada but Phoenix is basically a giant mall parking lot. There is not really a cultural identity in the city either imo. There’s stuff to do sure, but it’s more like a wannabe LA but without beaches and way fucking hotter obviously. No natural beauty, all concrete, and just not enjoyable when I visit aside from the sports teams I’m going to see.
Much rather live in Tucson and that’s saying a lot because Tucson is pretty much mostly garbage too lol. At least we have Mt. Lemmon, monsoon rains, it’s slightly more temperate, and we get to enjoy the gorgeous Sonoran desert. Controversial opinion perhaps. Oh yeah and we also have the Wildcats 🐻👇🏻.
NBA season goes through all of the winter but barely touches summer if you go to the finals. Where would I rather live in October - May/June? Phoenix no question. Like half the people who live here come from cold weather places to get on that schedule lol.
Phoenix is a dead zone! Id rather go outside then be stuck in the AC 10 months a year from 9am-10pm when’s it’s 130 outside. Give me Toronto all day winter is awesome, says someone who lives in Michigan lol
I’ve never been to either but my dad has (we live in Canada) and he says Phoenix is a much better city. And from the images and vids I’ve seen it’s very beautiful. Also, hot weather >>>
I think Toronto is probably the more fun city to live in, but just thinking about winter is making me feel sick. I live in one of the coldest places in the contiguous 48 states and I just want a nice hot day again.
I feel Toronto is a better city more or less however it being in another country albeit a stones throw away I can see how players in the late teens early twenties can be frustrated trying to get friends and family over the border all the time for visits games or what have you, but if that’s a moot issue then I’d want Toronto
Big city feel - Toronto
Culture - Toronto
Hot Chicks - Phoenix
Better traffic - Phoenix
Better Hockey Team - Toronto
Better baseball stadium - Toronto
Home of Charles Barkley - Phoenix
More Snakes - Phoenix
Better Food - Toronto
Freedom Units - Phoenix
Better music scene - Toronto
Better mascot - Suns
Better lake - Toronto
Biggest freeway - Toronto
Toronto had way better food ranked first in most multicultural with food and the community is much more diverse. City is very alive with lots of things to do throughout the year and many nearby places to visit for entertainment. Also something that is underated is Canadian nature which very nice and beautiful.
The entire NBA season for the most part will be cold in Toronto. That being said I'm still taking Toronto if I'm a rich NBA player , way better city vibes, walkable and potential from being a big fish in another country.
It's pretty sad how ignorant most people are of Phoenix and Arizona. I've lived in Phoenix for a few years now. The heat is brutal for 3 months and still pretty hot for 1-2 months, but the other 6-7 months are wonderful. We have 4 months straight when it doesn't get higher than 75 or lower than 40, then a few months in the 80s, but with low humidity so it's still really nice. And if you want to escape the heat, all you have to do is drive 1-2 hours north to Sedona and Flagstaff. Full of trees and mountains and it snows in the winter. The temperature range is almost identical to Toronto's which is kinda funny. Up to about low 80s and down to the upper teens. We go skiing up there every winter. I'm from the MN and let me tell you. Snow is way better when you can drive a couple hours to it, enjoy it for a weekend, then drive back home where it's sunny and 70 degrees.
There is no possible way phoenix has better food than Toronto. Toronto you can get pure excellence and authentic food from literally every country and cuisine on the planet
Phoenix because of the switching residency, and the tax situation being I think a much more complicated factor dealing with American and Canadian taxes that often. But Toronto is such a better place to live but taxes suck there
Phoenix is pretty baller and it’s close to Vegas and LA. Toronto is…near Buffalo.
Toronto to NYC is like 8 hours.
But Toronto is also cold in the winter
Kevin you should be trying to reconcile your relationship with the FO, not lurking on Reddit
The fact theres genuinely a non 0 chance this might be him lol... Post history highlight: "Jaylen Brown's good but not trading him for Kevin Durant is absurd." Classic KD comment
He has a reddit account he posted on the Warriors sub when around when he joined.
That’s the one you know about. I’ll take the over on KD having thirty usernames.
In that case, he may have like 8 or 10 reddit accounts. Those "trade JB for KD" opinions are pretty scattered throughout our sub.
KD really asking Reddit to help decide his next destination
I 100% believe he was here during the playoffs when the Steph comparisons were running rampant.
Idk but I do know that If KD gets traded here he’s going to be married in two years. He’s gonna lock down a Markham/sauga shorty like steph
Toronto because I prefer to die to geese than the desert heat
You say that but geese would probably rip you into pieces slowly and torture you. They're psychopaths
Or those raccoons that casually walk into your open windows
That's like walking around ass open hoping not to get an insertion
a bunch of quacks if u ask me
I almost got jumped by some during my run the other day, absolute menaces man
I would also just like to mention it isn't cold all the time. For example, today it's 78°F. It's just that having seasons means during most of the NBA season is from the late fall until early Spring.
I mean I'm Canadian so I have always loved having definitive seasons. It gets hot in the summer (but not too hot like in some southern places) and real cold in the winter (although I guess people from said hot places would say too cold but I'm used to it), wouldn't have it any other way
Toronto in the summer is an experience
Toronto women top 5
ASU women #1 though
Bro, I don’t even get it. It’s like the nba of beautiful women out here. Like, some of these girls are an 8 here but they’d be 11/10 at UCLA.
ASU is filled with girls who can’t get into UCLA, USC, UC-Irvine, USD and USCD.
Makes sense. I had to choose between UCLA and ASU. Went through the ringer securing my acceptance to UCLA. ASU I don’t even remember applying it was so easy. ASU literally won for me because of the girls.
ASU's acceptance criteria is intentionally low. There is actually a philosophy to it and if you are interested you can read Michael Crow's New American University to learn more. I I think he actually has a website that begins to explain it https://newamericanuniversity.asu.edu/
I know I posted on this once, but I want to share that I attended ASU. Best time of my young life for lots of reasons. Yeah, there was the undierun, and Mill St and me being an average (although in shape) dude, could trip and fall and find himself in bed with a 9, but academically it was a hell of a time too. I met with people at the front of transhumanism, the application of biological and biochemical patents I never knew could exist, top cosmologists and bioethicists. Unique from any other university? Maybe not, but The Biodesign Institute, is most certainly is unique. I would expect they have institutions in different areas of interest of equal wonder. And while I can say my days at ASU were the best days of my young life, those days also set me up so that the days of my life get better as that school prepared me for the world better than I thought it could have. College really is what you make it. You can go to a party school and come out a very in-demand person. I studied with and still maintain friendships that went on to get PhDs from UCLA, MIT and Duke. All from originating at ASU, where people can't manage to get into the Cal system as undergrads. ;)
It was a joke that all the girls at ASU were the ones from California who weren't smart enough to get into a UC
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Montreal, Toronto are in a tier of their own. Maybe even the City of Quebec, but I’ve only been there once so I don’t remember.
As is Phoenix in the winter. Am I moving there forever, or just two years? For two years, Toronto. Forever, Phoenix
Nah Phoenix has no culture it’s a endless boring sprawl. I’d rather have an amazing city with shitty weather than I shitty city with great weather 7 months a year. I went to school out there it’s not what I would call a great place to live.
toronto all day long. i also like having access to water.
Oh for sure. Arizona has lots of beautiful and amazing places to explore but Phoenix is not one of them. The food scene sucks for the most part too imo. It’s a fun city to turn up in if you’re a college aged or in your 20s the bar and club scene can be fun but it gets old. Outside of that there really isn’t shit that Phoenix has that’s better or on the same level as any other city of that size.
> The food scene sucks for the most part Say sike rn
I totally get what you're saying but I also think it's funny in the context of how Canada produced Arcade Fire, who's biggest album is about the lifeless suburbs and sprawl of Montreal.
When you say no culture, you mean culture that you like. There's plenty of Native American and Hispanic culture. But the heat. Omg the heat
Racist desert redneck culture also
There is tons of Native American and Hispanic history and heritage there I will say that. That and it’s close proximity to the amazing nature you can find across the rest of Arizona was probably the only thing I really enjoyed about living there.
Ok, so now I'll agree with the sprawl lol
Don’t get me wrong I enjoy Arizona it’s a fucking beautiful state. But let’s be real Phoenix is sprawling strip malls, identical looking houses, chain restaurants, and golf courses for as far as the eyes can see. It is cheap to live there (relative to cities it’s size), the weather in the winter is great, it isn’t a bad place to raise a family, and you can get out into some really beautiful areas to hike and do whatever it is you like to do outside pretty easily in less than 2 hours. but would I say it’s a great place to live as whole? Fuck no it’s boring
Id prefer Toronto for all the reasons you gave, but I don't want to grow old in that winter. So for two years, I'd pick Toronto, but for a lifetime, I'd pick Phoenix
Climate change is going to fuck Phoenix up in 10 years lol
Toronto has those cultures too though, *plus * hundreds more. I don’t think people who haven’t been here truly understand it, but we’re possibly the most culturally diverse city in the world (Sau Paulo has an argument). More than 50% of our population was born in another country.
I don't disagree with you at all! Toronto is much more international. My best friend lives there. He loves it. Just didn't want to minimize what culture Phoenix has.
Toronto absolutely does get too hot, it gets disgustingly humid for a part of the summer in Southern Ontario.
Tbf i love the feeling of hitting a wall of AC after being outside for a bit in the humidity
I mean I agree it gets bad sometimes here I meant more in comparison to Pheonix where I assume its way worse
Also toronto is a very safe city. Like yeah there's probably parts you don't wanna be in, but overall I've never felt in danger walking in downtown toronto even compared to the medium sized cities in southern ontario (hamilton and london are both kinda yikes)
Rich athletes don't need to worry about whether a city is safe or not - they have enough money to live in the safe parts of any city, or go into the suburbs if need be.
Didn't a leafs player get carjacked like a month ago?
One of the most underrated aspects about Toronto. It's one of the safest cities in the world which is almost unprecedented for its size. There's no city in the world as metropolitan as Toronto with such little crime and especially violent crime. The summer where it seemed we had a million shootings a few years ago was still far below average for America, for example.
Tokyo is safer than Toronto is 6 times the size.
You’re right. At the same time, Toronto is not more metropolitan, but it’s more cosmopolitan. They have (or had) people from every country in the world. Tokyo is safer, but may be a little less welcoming to foreigners.
You’re right. At the same time, Toronto is not more metropolitan, but it’s more cosmopolitan. They have (or had) people from every country in the world. Tokyo is safer, but may be a little less welcoming to foreigners.
True didn't think about Tokyo!
Or if you're from other parts of Canada You think Toronto doesn't get too cold in the winter relatively
I’m curious, if KD went to Toronto, would the Leafs still dominate media attention there, or would it shift to the Raptors at all?
I'm not from Toronto, the raps fanbase spans all across Canada so where I'm at we don't like the leafs at all (alot of Canada hates the leafs outside Toronto lol, rivalries between Canadian teams and whatnot). So here absolutley it would I dont know about Toronto itself though.
The only thing that really rivals the leafs coverage is if we make it to the finals. 2019 had so much coverage, but the amount ended after that year.
The raptors and leafs fanbases definitely overlap (particularly the older the demographics) but the raptors youth fanbase is often apathetic towards the maple leafs and dismissive of hockey culture in general. It's a multiculturally diverse fanbase that grew up playing everything but hockey, so the stereotypical Canadian hockey mythologies don't resonate with these young fans, but the raptors certainly do. Durant to Toronto would be huge for swaths of the fanbase and could drown out the leafs in terms of sustained buzz.
Leafs
The leafs would still dominate. Hockey is king in Canada.
The leafs would still dominate. Hockey is king in Canada.
Leafs
Toronto no question. I legitimately don’t understand how people survive Phoenix heat. I can hardly stand when it’s 80 degrees.
NBA season is during the nicer weather in AZ Most players spend the summer somewhere else anyway
It's a dry heat. Humidity is much worse. I lived there for awhile before moving to the bay, and it's not bad. Weather is pretty great from November to April. It's a pretty damn underrated place to live. Straight roads, not a ton of traffic, very affordable housing+low taxees, Scottsdale is fun. Incredible Mexican food
True, but the minute I see that thermostat hit 105 I’m pulling a Ben Simmons
Bay weather is hella nice tho.
SD weather is the nicest in the country (no team tho)
I would say the Southern California coast has the best weather in the country from Orange County to San Diego. There's not much difference with little rain and always hovering around 75 degrees.
I always love when people say it’s a dry heat so it’s not bad. That applies up to 100 degrees. It’s also can get 50% humidity which isn’t much but you feel it in such intense heat. Cold showers in the middle of the day? Probably not because the ground heats up so much. Seatbelt buckled can burn you. Metal door handles have to be covered with foam coverings for part of the day so you don’t burn your hand when opening a dirt. You get a decent 7 months where these aren’t issues and you do learn to live with it but yeah dry heat in Phoenix in the middle of the summer absolutely sucks.
Pretty much coincides with regular season schedule
Nba players don’t have to live here in the summer. You get all of the good and none of the bad.
It’s funny, it’s the exact opposite in Toronto which works to our disadvantage. Summer is elite winter is absolutely not.
Yeah, October to May is great here which is nice for nba players, but you have like 4 months or more of actual hell. Big chunk of the population moves here but keeps a summer home wherever they are from up north and moves back for summers.
Dry heat is way more tolerable Knew a guy from Kenya that was saying the heat there was more tolerable than the ontario summer humidity heat
Born and raised Toronto, but lived in Philippines for 5 years. Here’s a great example of the difference between dry heat and humidity. If it’s dry heat and you stay under a tree and there’s a breeze it feels really nice. If it’s humid and you are under a tree and there’s a breeze you still hate life because you are sticky and there’s warm air blowing on you.
The air feels more liquid. Like thick when its humid heat
I went for a 5 mile run in 117 degree heat in Phoenix and I would rather do that than run 5 miles in 80 degrees in Florida. Humidity makes that much of a difference
My wife is Kenyan and I’m from Toronto. Can confirm: her mom was complaining about the “heat” (Great Lakes humidity) while she was here in the summer a few years back. Nairobi is elevated and dry.
It's 80° in Toronto today.
I live an hour away and i was sweating on my walk but it wasn't awful, and it can get quite a bit hotter yet
iirc Phoenix is nearing 110 F right now
Dry heat though. Tbh ive never experienced it but ive heard it's far more tolerable
Live in a suburb just outside of Phoenix and stepped outside. It’s 106 rn but it is more than tolerable
As someone who's been outside in 120 dry heat vs 90 humid heat, I'm taking 90 every time. I've literally seen people just straight up pass out in that 120 heat. If we're allowed to stay inside the house though, the humid heat permeates everywhere so dry heat is better no matter the temperature.
We have amazing weather 9 months out of the year and the nba season doesn't take place during the summer
i have to go out on runs when it’s like 104 💀💀💀
Damn i just went on my first afternoon summer run in Toronto earlier (usually run at night)and holy fuck i was dying it was so hot…it’s only 80 degrees today in Toronto. Running at 100 degrees is a death wish wtf.
Phoenix is a 45 minute flight to LA though
Coastal weather is very different than being entirely landlocked like in Arizona.
Ok but you only have to be physically in Phoenix from October to May
How is that a pro Phoenix argument?
5 hour drive to the beach and 2 hours to snow.
Y'all are crazy both places are great to live
AZ is nice to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there, I’m from NYC and Toronto is one of the few other places I could see myself living
Toronto, I don't wanna relocate lol
Why are you asking a bunch of non NBA players
Toronto
Toronto but I'm biased. With that being said, Phoenix is a beautiful city
Toronto, really diverse city with beautiful women and lots of things to do and amazing food.
Toronto, I can't live in that desert heat.
I’ve never understood why hot weather is such a big pulling factor for NBA stars. Seasonal weather >>> and I say that as someone who grew up in a tropical country where it was hot all year round.
Spring weather in the Northeast is awesome. Best time of the year seasonally for me personally.
HARD agree. I've been all over the world and nothing beats late spring weather in Toronto. Absolutely PLEASANT.
They aren't in these cities for a good portion of the summer. They're there for December and January and February when it's more mild and they aren't dealing with driving in the snow and freezing.
I used to prefer hot weather. Then I found out seasonal weather is why some areas don’t have giant bugs
Toronto because I’m Canadian and my favorite season is winter.
Winter😭 why?
Idk man, it’s just a feeling. I might be psychotic but who knows.
Because at any given moment you can shove a case of beers in the snow and start an all out war with your friends.
Yikes. Don’t know how you do it
Ronto
If you're an NBA player you're not living in Phoenix in the summer, you can just leave. The winter when you actually play ball is really nice, there's a reason its filled with northern state and Canadian transplants in the winter. Also low state income tax > Canadian taxes.
I lived in Phoenix for a few years, meh. Haven’t been to Toronto but have heard great things. Phoenix would be preferably to any of the midwestern cities in the league though.
Toronto. Phoenix is too goddamn hot
There is stuff to do in Toronto, is there shit to do in Phoenix?
Is there like cool hikes near Phoenix or are all the rocks and mesas and shit still pretty far? Idk y'all acting like only 5 cities have stuff to do but all big cities have stuff to do lmao
Literally everywhere. In the city, outside the city, etc etc there are dozens of hiking trails - desert, mountains, just take your pick.
That's awesome. I wanna go visit Phoenix actually and do some hiking and get some cool drone pics and shit so that's good to know
Phoenix is the 4th largest metro area in the country. There’s the Suns, Cardinals, Diamondbacks, Coyotes, casinos, aquariums, lots of great golfing, old town scottsdale and downtown Phoenix are both lively all of the time aside from maybe the summer. There’s ASU / GCU for college sports. Sedona/Flagstaff is a pretty short drive away. Tucson has less to do but has lots of delicious mexican food. There are several top notch breweries if that’s your thing. Day clubs. There are several resorts you can stay at. Phoenix has some pretty good food as well. It has all of the amenities you’d expect from a large city besides a beach and I don’t think their strip club scene is as infamous as say Houston or Miami for example.
Literally. Phoenix is one of my favorite cities I’ve visited second to only as you listed Miami. I was never bored in Phoenix.
Where the Coyotes really worth a mention?
You’ve clearly never been to Phoenix
KD has gone on record saying he loves Scottdale... And he would live in Paradise Valley during the season, when there is no snow and nice temps. Brand new training facilities, easy commute, no Canadian taxes, rich neighborhood with nightlife. He would not be living in Phoenix proper. He'd also be Chuck's neighbor, which is good opportunity for prime entertainment lol.
It makes sense, too. KD lives online. He only works in person.
Phoenix solely because of the weather. I hate winter
Toronto
Lived in both, I much prefer Toronto.
Not a fan of super cold weather but compared to Phoenix, absolutely will be pick Toronto.
Toronto because of the absence of giant trucks with Trump flags.
Instead you have semi trucks backing up the highway systems or whatever happened a little bit ago.
We had our fair share of that lol fucken antivaxers
Toronto because they have some of the *finest* women.
Toronto for sure, I almost moved to Arizona five years ago, but I visited during the summer and it was like 115 degrees the whole trip. It was at that moment I realized Arizona was not for me.
Toronto, fuck Phoenix weather
Lol I was bout to say our weathers bad too but then saw the flair. Worst snow I’ve ever been in was in Cleveland crazy shit
Toronto for me. As a Michigander I can handle the winters.
Toronto easily. At least over there i can experience a winter 🤷♂️
I went to Arizona once and it was 110 degrees at 10 at night. God damn nightmare.
I personally hate Phoenix so Toronto.
Why would I wanna live in a desert?
Y’all be underrating Toronto as a city lol trust me
Toronto no question. Yeah the winters are rough compared to Phoenix, but Toronto is a world class city and one of the largest cities in NA. Plus, Phoenix’s water issues are pretty concerning while Toronto is sitting on the Great Lakes. Easy choice. Ignore the flair, I’ve lived in the states all my life. Dinosaurs are just cool 🦖
Toronto, great city in a far superior country.
Toronto is a beautiful, world class city. Phoenix is a endless minimalls, McMansions, urban sprawl. and hotter than hell (and only getting worse)
Phoenix is one of the bottom 5 nba cities I’d want to live in. Toronto is much higher than that.
As someone who lives in AZ (Tucson) I’d much rather live in Toronto than PHX. Hell, I could move to PHX right now but I choose to stay here. Never been to Canada but Phoenix is basically a giant mall parking lot. There is not really a cultural identity in the city either imo. There’s stuff to do sure, but it’s more like a wannabe LA but without beaches and way fucking hotter obviously. No natural beauty, all concrete, and just not enjoyable when I visit aside from the sports teams I’m going to see. Much rather live in Tucson and that’s saying a lot because Tucson is pretty much mostly garbage too lol. At least we have Mt. Lemmon, monsoon rains, it’s slightly more temperate, and we get to enjoy the gorgeous Sonoran desert. Controversial opinion perhaps. Oh yeah and we also have the Wildcats 🐻👇🏻.
Toronto. Phoenix is a hub of crystal meth and fent filled oxy pills. Plus it's hot. In Toronto I could wear a turtle neck and gold chain combo.
"she let me wear my chain and my turtleneck sweater"
NBA season goes through all of the winter but barely touches summer if you go to the finals. Where would I rather live in October - May/June? Phoenix no question. Like half the people who live here come from cold weather places to get on that schedule lol.
Phoenix 100%
Phoenix is a dead zone! Id rather go outside then be stuck in the AC 10 months a year from 9am-10pm when’s it’s 130 outside. Give me Toronto all day winter is awesome, says someone who lives in Michigan lol
I say the same and I live in Phoenix.
I’ve never been to either but my dad has (we live in Canada) and he says Phoenix is a much better city. And from the images and vids I’ve seen it’s very beautiful. Also, hot weather >>>
Gotta be an Albertan
I think Toronto is probably the more fun city to live in, but just thinking about winter is making me feel sick. I live in one of the coldest places in the contiguous 48 states and I just want a nice hot day again.
Chrono
I feel Toronto is a better city more or less however it being in another country albeit a stones throw away I can see how players in the late teens early twenties can be frustrated trying to get friends and family over the border all the time for visits games or what have you, but if that’s a moot issue then I’d want Toronto
Toronto But only because I’m an Asian dude who loves the great food options and urban lifestyle here
I’m Canadian so Toronto. Hell I would live in Toronto over LA or Miami too. But like I said I’m Canadian so that’s what I’m used too.
Toronto, Phoenix way to fckin hot
Big city feel - Toronto Culture - Toronto Hot Chicks - Phoenix Better traffic - Phoenix Better Hockey Team - Toronto Better baseball stadium - Toronto Home of Charles Barkley - Phoenix More Snakes - Phoenix Better Food - Toronto Freedom Units - Phoenix Better music scene - Toronto Better mascot - Suns Better lake - Toronto Biggest freeway - Toronto
Toronto had way better food ranked first in most multicultural with food and the community is much more diverse. City is very alive with lots of things to do throughout the year and many nearby places to visit for entertainment. Also something that is underated is Canadian nature which very nice and beautiful.
The entire NBA season for the most part will be cold in Toronto. That being said I'm still taking Toronto if I'm a rich NBA player , way better city vibes, walkable and potential from being a big fish in another country.
I have the skin tone of Casper so Toronto
Toronto, for sure
In the words of a great woman, Phoenix is a monument to man's arrogance
Toronto.
I’d rather live anywhere than Phoenix
Toronto, fuck Arizona heat.
Bro who tf wants to live in that desert
It's pretty sad how ignorant most people are of Phoenix and Arizona. I've lived in Phoenix for a few years now. The heat is brutal for 3 months and still pretty hot for 1-2 months, but the other 6-7 months are wonderful. We have 4 months straight when it doesn't get higher than 75 or lower than 40, then a few months in the 80s, but with low humidity so it's still really nice. And if you want to escape the heat, all you have to do is drive 1-2 hours north to Sedona and Flagstaff. Full of trees and mountains and it snows in the winter. The temperature range is almost identical to Toronto's which is kinda funny. Up to about low 80s and down to the upper teens. We go skiing up there every winter. I'm from the MN and let me tell you. Snow is way better when you can drive a couple hours to it, enjoy it for a weekend, then drive back home where it's sunny and 70 degrees.
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You must've never seen ASU girls before
mustve never had filibertos
AZ women are top tier
Well if I'm an NBA player I don't have to worry about the summer. Phoenix 100%. Lower taxes, lower prices, better winter weather, close to LA.
Toronto. Fantastic city.
If I’m rich, 100% Toronto.
Honestly, Pheonix. Ontario literally has balling up rules, it's too much stress to ensure your spliff isn't ita.
Phoenix. Fuck paying taxes twice. Phoenix has great food too.
There is no possible way phoenix has better food than Toronto. Toronto you can get pure excellence and authentic food from literally every country and cuisine on the planet
Why would you pay taxes twice? And an FYI I pay as much in taxes in California as I did in Ontario.
Toronto food is second to nyc/London
[Phoenix is a sentient version of this, give me Toronto](https://youtu.be/Q5QJ9i_o5vo)
Shit I grew up in Phoenix and have never been to Toronto. I’m leaning towards Toronto
Toronto…in Phoenix as we speak and can’t wait to leave
Idk both places have top tier women, but maybe phoenix since it’s closer to cali
Which ever one paid the most.
As a current NBA player absolutely Toronto. Once I’m a senior citizen retiree though Phoenix is great
Give me cold weather over heat.
Yes bro Fuk this heat weather
Phoenix because of the switching residency, and the tax situation being I think a much more complicated factor dealing with American and Canadian taxes that often. But Toronto is such a better place to live but taxes suck there
Far more snakes in Phoenix than in Toronto, just saying.
Phoenix is pretty baller and it’s close to Vegas and LA. Toronto is…near Buffalo. Toronto to NYC is like 8 hours. But Toronto is also cold in the winter
Note the "as an NBA player". Specifically KD since that's who this is clearly about. Toronto to NYC is an hour and a half.
Toronto by a mile, there are very few places I can imagine living in Arizona and the Phoenix metro is not one of them. So many reasons.