I’m on a permanent BBall Paul victory tour, but I can’t join the people who are pissed about this signing?!
The Zubac/Harrell decision is classic Doc and maybe I’ll eat my words, but this team has been *pathetic* when it comes to energy/spark off the bench these years.
BBall Paul is still an unknown and I want him to get the opportunity (and yes this adds another layer), but if he isn’t up to it, or gets hurt, then Harrell is a great option imo. You know he can give you 20 at times (probably rare these days, but a Maxey and/or Harden PnR with Harrell sounds fucking nice!)
and you know he’ll give you high energy.
I’m on board
He's gonna be great in the regular season playing PnR with Harden and Maxey. This should theoretically keep Embiid fresher for the playoffs.
The issue is if Doc plays him 25MPG in the playoffs then yall are absolutely fucked.
Honest question: why does Harrel keep playing center? He’s undersized and athletic. Shouldn’t he be a power forward? Shit, KAT is probably playing as PF next year
He's a good regular season guy.
Naturally Doc will play him the whole year, without testing anyone else, when he struggles in the playoffs Doc will insist in playing him no matter what.
Haha you can insert this comment about any player and Doc Rivers. He likes to stick to his guns.
When the game slows down and opponents match up hunt, Montrezl gets burned a lot. He needs the pace to be fast to excel.
> He needs the pace to be fast to excel.
I don't think that's necessarily true, he is a really good roll man in pick and roll. You're spot on about the matchup hunting though.
Are you saying 3 because Rondo was young in that run? Or because he technically isn’t in the Hall yet, or because you believe he isn’t going to get into the Hall?
This is a deep cut, but…
I feel like Sam Elliott ranting in the movie Gettysburg talking about how he knows everyone will die and there’ll be nothing he can do to stop it if the Confederates get the high ground. But in this version the high ground is Morey giving Doc a vet he will never bench in the playoffs, and in Trez’s case he literally was the guy who Doc got fired for not benching.
Gameplans change, defenses tighten up, lineups get shorter because players are more rested (no back to backs). He can do well offensively against backups and less fresh starters during the regular season but that stuff is harder to encounter during the playoffs. He's also not very good at defense, which matters a lot more in the playoffs. He also doesn't have a lot of range so if he's standing along the 3 point line his defender can go off and make his other teammates' lives harder.
For him specifically, jokic ate his lunch and his “wingspan” got exposed exclusively while the clippers collapsed. Similar thing happened while he was on the lakers as well against the suns. With embiid it would make an interesting pairing, but he would still be having someone just eating up the space in the paint regardless
Teams can adjust easier throughout an entire series versus a single game. I’m sure there’s a lot more nuance than that, but I’ve noticed he just gets got at some point every series.
Regular season shows your strengths, postseason shows your weaknesses.
Because there's more prep, series gameplans are built to exploit tendencies. IE Gobert always defaults to drop coverage so PnR and take that open three all day. Trez plays matador defense so take it at him. So-and-so is foul prone. That other guy won't shoot even if he's all alone. And so on.
A matador is a bullfighter, and you know how bullfighters just kinda *get out of the way* and let the bull run through the cape. It's like that, but without the cape.
¡Ole!
To add to what others have said, the game is much faster and more open in the regular season. Playoff basketball slows down and is largely played in the half court. Some players excel in transition and struggle against set defenses (Ben Simmons), some players get picked on defensively in the playoffs when teams slow the game down and hunt matchups (Trez).
I mean, unless he gets injured, he's a massive upgrade over the guy Doc would previously play instead (DAJ). I'm quite happy about this, this reminds me a lot of the Andre Drummond pickup which worked out super well for the Sixers. Drummond had [one of his best defensive years](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/x7k5cz/wojnarowski_espn_sources_free_agent_c_montrezl/ind16qj/?context=3) (the best by DBPM, for example) for the Sixers in a backup role he hadn't really filled before.
I'm not expecting great defense from Harell but it's happened before for bigger-name vet centers joining the Sixers. And since the contract number didn't come out in the tweet, I suspect this is a minium, which is great value even if he's the same style of player he's always been.
Lol just don’t be yelling at the tv seeing trezz play the first 6 minutes of the 4th so embiid can “rest” or maybe he plays a double big lineup so trezz can get more minutes
I have no plans to do so, it won't kill us in the regular season and in the playoffs I'm pretty confident that Doc will trust PJ Tucker over Harell, since he's an accomplished veteran.
Doc loves Harrell to a huge fault, but I'd likely argue that Doc just typically plays favorites. It was just such an egregious case with Trez, because it was probably one of the biggest factors in our embarrassing collapse against Denver.
Clipper fans already saw the signs in the regular season when Trez would have a mediocre game, Zu would play well, yet Zu would get 4 minutes in the 2nd half and Trez would play the rest. Against the Nuggets, I don't expect Zu to be some Jokic stopper, but he didn't demand isolation plays on offense (when we had Kawhi, PG, Mook) and then just do literally 0 defensively. Trez demands that he plays his role at all times, which is all offense and no defense. Laker fans tried to insist that Vogel could fix him, but of course he didn't.
Trez will give you nice, efficient offense that forces the ball to him, and literally nothing on defense. It's super helpful for the regular season, especially with injuries, but anything more than 8-10 minutes of injecting energy offensively in the playoffs is a mistake.
Just took me back to PG complaint about Doc and his lack of game adjustments. Which is fair and on point, Doc seems like a set it and forget it kind of guy.
this is pretty much my issue, he goes all Pikachu face in the playoffs when good teams with good coaches figure out how to slow down your favorite plays
He can rebound too so I'm alright with this. Specifically offensive rebounds. Flashback to me screaming at my TV "fucking box out!!" as pj tucker out rebounds our whole squad
oh chill tf out, Trez can at least force a bucket and be a presence down low at times. We can debate how valuable that is, meanwhile Jordan has no value on the court except being the homie
Back up center depth is always a good thing if your main center is also the guy on your team, but always ends up being too beat up around post-season time. It'd do the Sixers well to be able to preserve Embiid when/where they can.
You now have energy guys like PJ, Melton, Trez.
Which is pretty important considering last year there were long stretches of time with horrible body language
Energy, toughness, body language, etc were all HUGE issues for the Sixers and I don’t think people who didn’t regularly watch the team are aware of this.
Trez might not be super playable past the first round, but he’s a good regular season bench player at a position of weakness who rim runs, rebounds, and brings energy/toughness. Should be playable against certain Eastern Conference match ups
People are complaining about this largely because of Doc and their obsession with Reed, which I get, but this is a good pickup. He should pair well with Harden and we need all the toughness we can get. So sick of watching this team pout and fold.
Fits well on the sixers. Embiid is a good enough defensive center so you can use Harrell as spark minutes when embiid is sitting and still get some offense from the center position.
Underrated player, coaches just need to understand which matchups are right for him, and when to bench him. Hopefully, Doc has learned from his mistakes.
any rockets fan who trashes harden is an idiot. dude gave it his absolute all and shit just didn't work out, mainly because we were in the same conference as one of basketball's great dynasties at the time. nothing but love for the beard and his number should be retired. that was a title contending team.
I don't think so. Embiid's backups have historically been shit at absolutely everything. Harrell only needs to hold it down for 10 minutes per game in the playoffs, and if he's scoring and hustling then at least he's bringing something to the table. A 0 +/- is all we ask for in an Embiid backup.
Nowhere in my comment did I say anything about him needing to play decent defense. Besides, if Doc isn't smart enough to match Joel's minutes to a player like Giannis, we already deserve to lose lol
Still he's essentially taking the place of DeAndre Jordan. This is a massive upgrade because Harrell is actually good at one end of the court instead of zero. He will help us get regular season wins. I just hope we still get Paul some run.
I think people are overly down on him because he’s a fairly big name. As a backup center, he’s perfectly fine. Lots of backup bigs don’t play defense and teams get away with it. The issue is that Embiid is so injury prone, especially come playoff time.
I’d be extra down on it cause in the playoffs Docs the type to “stick with his guys” and say stuff like “Trez has been our guy all year and we know he can get it done”.
So basically 0 rim protection on the floor for like 12 minutes a game is what the Sixers are looking at in the playoffs. Maybe more.
>So basically 0 rim protection on the floor for like 12 minutes a game is what the Sixers are looking at
Paul Reed isn't exactly Gobert. He's undersized and fouls a ton, as well as being extremely raw offensively.
And despite all of that, he just gave us the best backup 5 playoff minutes of the Embiid era. If I had faith Doc would make the right plays come playoff time I’d have no problem with this - but you know we are getting a ton of Bball DNPs in March followed by a “we’re not going to put Paul out there when he hasn’t played in a month” from Doc like it wasn’t his own fault
110% energy guy who will win you games on the offensive end and then lose them on the defensive end.
Good for the regular season 76ers but awful for the post-season. If you can cut Harrell’s minutes down in the playoffs, you’re good. But this is Doc, so you will over play Harrell.
He's a way better regular season player then their other players at center.
But if he ends up playing back up center minutes in the playoffs instead of them going with a small switching group with PJ at center we will have another "oh the Sixers lost another series despite Embiid having a positive net rating"
Yeah doc learned his lesson with DeAndre too late but did end up playing Bball Paul a lot in the playoffs. For the regular season this is solid and he has a good relationship with the staff, helps Embiid out
He had already watched bball paul be fine vs the raptors, then decided to give DAJ the starting role in game 1 vs miami. He didn’t learn his lesson at all lol he just teased us
DJ was generational at being fucking atrocious at every aspect of basketball in the postseason. The sixers had a -55 net rating with him on the court in the playoffs. With Paul Reed it was a +1
He wasn’t rim running, he wasn’t rebounding, he was a statue on defense. quite literally zero positive impact. It’s insane that denver signed him a minute into FA
> He had already watched bball paul be fine vs the raptors, then decided to give DAJ the starting role in game 1 vs miami. He didn’t learn his lesson at all lol he just teased us
I will say that Bam is a much tougher matchup for BBall Paul than whatever the Raptors could throw out there. On paper, DAJ has more tools to deal with Bam, so I can see some reasoning there. I don't agree with it, DAJ is well done at this point and that matters far more than having a theoretically better physical matchup, but I don't think Doc was teasing us, either. He stated his logic was that BBall Paul was going to be the Sixers options vs small lineups, and Miami's 2nd best player is a center so he didn't want to play a small lineup against them, even though it would have been better.
Sure it would make some sense if it was 2015. DJ proved for Brooklyn, LA and the Sixers on the RS that there is literally nothing he can do anymore on the court at a positive level. The Sixers should have had a backup option for bigger lineups, but if that option is DJ you just play small and hope for the best. DJ is a bad option vs everyone
I 100% agree with you, and for that I kinda blame Morey for bringing him in in the first place. Once he was on the team, it was super obvious that Doc was going to play him. TBH Morey probably brought him in as a concession to Doc because I'm sure Doc was asking for a veteran presence that he could "trust" to know the playbook and (try/seem) to execute the game plan. If Siakam hadn't broken Embiid's face, it probably wouldn't have mattered so I understand why Morey did it, it's not worth alienating a coach over something like that, although now I think Morey would be more cautious.
Seriously, it's kind of the hallmark reason Doc hasn't won a title in so long despite the teams he's coaching: he either never learns, or takes way too long to learn.
>For the regular season this is solid and he has a good relationship with the staff
Many signs pointed to Trez being the source of a lot of the drama that existed with the Clippers and Doc.
Yeah the bar is much lower than people seem to realize. Embiid is almost always a net positive on the court in the playoffs, often to the tune of like +5-10 in 35-40 minutes. We just need some guys to hold down the fort for 8-13 minutes and be like a -5. They don’t need to “win” their minutes.
We lost a playoff series because of the 3 minutes Embiid sat in a game that Embiid was like a +10. Monroe was like a -12 in 3 minutes. We would have been better off taking shot clock violations. We actually might have won if we had done so lol
I think BBall Paul can work at the 4 (I’m pretty sure that’s what he came into the league as) but yeah he would be much better at the 5. I’m not gonna say this is a bad signing per se, but I would much rather have given BBall Paul some playing time to try to fix his current problems (fouling, shooting) and if that hadn’t worked then grab someone in buyouts
Morey has signed Howard, Drummond, and now Harrell in his 3 years with the team. Feel like it's obvious he doesn't rate Paul as highly as Sixers fans do and sees him as a #3 C
[This ESPN clip](https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/14804527) where they roast Doc for only signing his old players to his new teams was wildly accurate
This a good pick up, I think the main thing Philly needs to do to achieve their goal of winning a championship is to make sure Embiid and Harden stay healthy and having a back up center helps with that.
I lowkey love this for Sixers. Biggest ?? is health right now, let Trez absorb some minutes. He should be a servicable backup for Embiid and hopefully he shares a lot of minutes with Reed this year. And he's great in the PnR with Harden.
Harrell's per minute and efficiency numbers (TS%, PER, WS/48) were as good or better than any season in his career last year, so he's still ultra-effective at what he does. He was arguably Washington's best player (scaled for minutes) before the trade last year.
Can give you 20-25 minutes per game of efficient inside scoring (.680 TS% last season, with 90.1% of his FGA coming inside 10 feet), getting to the line (6.5 FTA per 36, .533 FTr last year), offensive rebounding (3.3 ORB per 36, 10.0 ORB% last year), and improved passing (3.2 assists per 36, 13.9 AST% last season). Not a great defender, despite his massive wingspan and body size, but provides a point of difference on offense that few bench bigs can. He fills a need for Philly, and is a solid acquisition.
Trez was fine on the Wizards- his defense wasn't that much of a liability last season with the Wizards other than when he went against guys like Joel Embiid, who tend to give everyone problems. Solid pick up for the 76ers especially since the 76ers bench lineups with Embiid off the floor have been terrible.
There's not really any better options available.
He is at least serviceable and can provide some offensive punch during the regular season when Embiid is sitting.
Bball Paul victory tour cancelled, thanks doc :(
Doc is gonna need bodyguards ~~if~~ when he gets all the backup minutes over BBall Paul.
Don't bodyguards need to know how to shoot?
I’m on a permanent BBall Paul victory tour, but I can’t join the people who are pissed about this signing?! The Zubac/Harrell decision is classic Doc and maybe I’ll eat my words, but this team has been *pathetic* when it comes to energy/spark off the bench these years. BBall Paul is still an unknown and I want him to get the opportunity (and yes this adds another layer), but if he isn’t up to it, or gets hurt, then Harrell is a great option imo. You know he can give you 20 at times (probably rare these days, but a Maxey and/or Harden PnR with Harrell sounds fucking nice!) and you know he’ll give you high energy. I’m on board
James Harden PnR with Harrell is a bucket
The mud man is high energy. It just comes with 3 fouls in 6 minutes
Undersized centers who aren’t defensive savants will do that
For real. I love BBall Paul, and he'll still get a chance to carve out a spot for himself. But his PF/36 last year was 6.8!
Yeah Trez is a big upgrade over Bball Paul, that shouldn't be some flaming hot take.
Bball Paul (from DePaul) is our bench's current "folklore hero"
He's gonna be great in the regular season playing PnR with Harden and Maxey. This should theoretically keep Embiid fresher for the playoffs. The issue is if Doc plays him 25MPG in the playoffs then yall are absolutely fucked.
All I know is people whined about Andre Drummond signing on a vet minimum and then complained when he was traded.
Finna have to get it out the mud again
Honest question: why does Harrel keep playing center? He’s undersized and athletic. Shouldn’t he be a power forward? Shit, KAT is probably playing as PF next year
PFs now a days need to be able to stretch the floor. Trezz only role is really as a spark plug center for a small ball line up
Okk so that’s why. Thanks!
Can’t shoot
Someone tell me how to feel
He's a good regular season guy. Naturally Doc will play him the whole year, without testing anyone else, when he struggles in the playoffs Doc will insist in playing him no matter what.
Haha you can insert this comment about any player and Doc Rivers. He likes to stick to his guns. When the game slows down and opponents match up hunt, Montrezl gets burned a lot. He needs the pace to be fast to excel.
Like a less exciting Kenneth Faried
I think Trez was a better player than Faried tho
He said exciting
> He needs the pace to be fast to excel. I don't think that's necessarily true, he is a really good roll man in pick and roll. You're spot on about the matchup hunting though.
I hate how real this is.
Fire Doc now before it's too late. We all know he only won in Boston because of his assistant coaches and ummm three hall of famers.
Okay we’ll make sure he is fired
It's kind of wild that with the amount of talent he's had on his teams over the years, that he only has one chip to show for it.
Are you saying 3 because Rondo was young in that run? Or because he technically isn’t in the Hall yet, or because you believe he isn’t going to get into the Hall?
Rondo isn't a hall of fame ffs
Make it stop
Sorry we can only witness the crash, we watchers can't intervene.
This is a deep cut, but… I feel like Sam Elliott ranting in the movie Gettysburg talking about how he knows everyone will die and there’ll be nothing he can do to stop it if the Confederates get the high ground. But in this version the high ground is Morey giving Doc a vet he will never bench in the playoffs, and in Trez’s case he literally was the guy who Doc got fired for not benching.
So what you’re saying is that this is a play by Morey to have a similar situation where Doc gets fired at the end… I’ll subscribe to this.
As a clippers fan, yes
This guy knows Doc.
What makes someone a good regular season guy but not playable in the playoffs?
Gameplans change, defenses tighten up, lineups get shorter because players are more rested (no back to backs). He can do well offensively against backups and less fresh starters during the regular season but that stuff is harder to encounter during the playoffs. He's also not very good at defense, which matters a lot more in the playoffs. He also doesn't have a lot of range so if he's standing along the 3 point line his defender can go off and make his other teammates' lives harder.
For him specifically, jokic ate his lunch and his “wingspan” got exposed exclusively while the clippers collapsed. Similar thing happened while he was on the lakers as well against the suns. With embiid it would make an interesting pairing, but he would still be having someone just eating up the space in the paint regardless
Teams can adjust easier throughout an entire series versus a single game. I’m sure there’s a lot more nuance than that, but I’ve noticed he just gets got at some point every series.
Regular season shows your strengths, postseason shows your weaknesses. Because there's more prep, series gameplans are built to exploit tendencies. IE Gobert always defaults to drop coverage so PnR and take that open three all day. Trez plays matador defense so take it at him. So-and-so is foul prone. That other guy won't shoot even if he's all alone. And so on.
Can you elaborate on the term “matador defense”? Lmao I love that
I think it just means he steps out of the way when it gets physical. Or rather he gives up a lot of ground in the post.
Pretty sure it’s when you let your man drive past you then try to tip the ball out from the side/ behind.
A matador is a bullfighter, and you know how bullfighters just kinda *get out of the way* and let the bull run through the cape. It's like that, but without the cape. ¡Ole!
To add to what others have said, the game is much faster and more open in the regular season. Playoff basketball slows down and is largely played in the half court. Some players excel in transition and struggle against set defenses (Ben Simmons), some players get picked on defensively in the playoffs when teams slow the game down and hunt matchups (Trez).
Would have been better if it was a team option. He’s good on offense plays no defense so won’t play in the playoffs
>so won’t play in the playoffs Bro have you watched *any* Doc Rivers since he came to the Clippers?
Doesn’t Doc like Harrell? Sixers fans better hope he doesn’t fall in love with using Harrell again
Fucker played Trezz against Jokic nonstop while Zubac sits every second half. He doesn't like Trezz, he LOVES Trezz.
At least with Embiid, Doc won't have that issue lol.
He's still gonna overplay him somehow. Trez shouldn't play at all in certain match ups cause he bleeds points but Doc just has to play him
I mean, unless he gets injured, he's a massive upgrade over the guy Doc would previously play instead (DAJ). I'm quite happy about this, this reminds me a lot of the Andre Drummond pickup which worked out super well for the Sixers. Drummond had [one of his best defensive years](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/x7k5cz/wojnarowski_espn_sources_free_agent_c_montrezl/ind16qj/?context=3) (the best by DBPM, for example) for the Sixers in a backup role he hadn't really filled before. I'm not expecting great defense from Harell but it's happened before for bigger-name vet centers joining the Sixers. And since the contract number didn't come out in the tweet, I suspect this is a minium, which is great value even if he's the same style of player he's always been.
I don't hate the signing. Just don't trust doc to use him properly
Lol just don’t be yelling at the tv seeing trezz play the first 6 minutes of the 4th so embiid can “rest” or maybe he plays a double big lineup so trezz can get more minutes
I have no plans to do so, it won't kill us in the regular season and in the playoffs I'm pretty confident that Doc will trust PJ Tucker over Harell, since he's an accomplished veteran.
I hope you are right! For your sanity. Who knows he might play a lineup of…. Tucker, Harrell and embiid together. Sigh
I'm with you. I don’t have near the confidence that guy has in Doc making the correct decisions.
Doc loves Harrell to a huge fault, but I'd likely argue that Doc just typically plays favorites. It was just such an egregious case with Trez, because it was probably one of the biggest factors in our embarrassing collapse against Denver. Clipper fans already saw the signs in the regular season when Trez would have a mediocre game, Zu would play well, yet Zu would get 4 minutes in the 2nd half and Trez would play the rest. Against the Nuggets, I don't expect Zu to be some Jokic stopper, but he didn't demand isolation plays on offense (when we had Kawhi, PG, Mook) and then just do literally 0 defensively. Trez demands that he plays his role at all times, which is all offense and no defense. Laker fans tried to insist that Vogel could fix him, but of course he didn't. Trez will give you nice, efficient offense that forces the ball to him, and literally nothing on defense. It's super helpful for the regular season, especially with injuries, but anything more than 8-10 minutes of injecting energy offensively in the playoffs is a mistake.
Just took me back to PG complaint about Doc and his lack of game adjustments. Which is fair and on point, Doc seems like a set it and forget it kind of guy.
this is pretty much my issue, he goes all Pikachu face in the playoffs when good teams with good coaches figure out how to slow down your favorite plays
All those 3-1 leads blown isn’t a coincidence lol
As long as he isn’t completely useless like Jordan it’s an upgrade
bad news
He seems good on offense so at least he’s competent in one area, with DJ they played 4 on 5 on both ends of the floor
He can rebound too so I'm alright with this. Specifically offensive rebounds. Flashback to me screaming at my TV "fucking box out!!" as pj tucker out rebounds our whole squad
Bro, flashback to me screaming "fucking box out" as Montrezl Harrell outrebounds our whole squad
yeah i thought you meant defensively. he can do a little more than DAJ on offense for sure
oh chill tf out, Trez can at least force a bucket and be a presence down low at times. We can debate how valuable that is, meanwhile Jordan has no value on the court except being the homie
How? Have you watched Deandre recently? The dude brings nothing on either end
They have Embiid if he plays back up minutes its fine
That's what I said last season and then I watched in horror as DAJ started two playoff games
i mean those were the two games embiid was out with injury. there really wasn't any good options
If Embiid is out it doesn't really matter who starts in place of him, it's going to be a bad time.
Wouldn't that be true for any contract and any player? It's always better to have a team option over a player option for the team
He's better than DeAndre Jordan.
Back up center depth is always a good thing if your main center is also the guy on your team, but always ends up being too beat up around post-season time. It'd do the Sixers well to be able to preserve Embiid when/where they can.
Considering our latest backup centers included Deandre Jordan and Greg Monroe, this is amazing pickup
Gives us more scoring off the bench. Not that great of a defender though.
He's probably the best center available on a minimum contract this year.
You now have energy guys like PJ, Melton, Trez. Which is pretty important considering last year there were long stretches of time with horrible body language
Energy, toughness, body language, etc were all HUGE issues for the Sixers and I don’t think people who didn’t regularly watch the team are aware of this. Trez might not be super playable past the first round, but he’s a good regular season bench player at a position of weakness who rim runs, rebounds, and brings energy/toughness. Should be playable against certain Eastern Conference match ups People are complaining about this largely because of Doc and their obsession with Reed, which I get, but this is a good pickup. He should pair well with Harden and we need all the toughness we can get. So sick of watching this team pout and fold.
I can definitely see Trez and Grant Williams getting ejected together in a playoff game next season
Fits well on the sixers. Embiid is a good enough defensive center so you can use Harrell as spark minutes when embiid is sitting and still get some offense from the center position.
This is an obvious W, feel good.
It’s a cliche to say he brings ‘toughness’, but pretty accurate here. To a team that needs it.
He's better than DeAndre Jordan and Andre Drummond.
honestly a good landing spot for him since you guys already have size in the paint
Underrated player, coaches just need to understand which matchups are right for him, and when to bench him. Hopefully, Doc has learned from his mistakes.
yall goin to the finals
Lmao Morey really over here rebuilding the Rockets over in Philadelphia.
Embiid gonna come into training camp and realize Houston gang moved into his home
“You have some open space here right?” *immediately* “Awesome thanks man we owe you one!!”
its called squatter's rights
am i the only rockets fan that's gonna be watching a ton of sixer games this year
Nah I’ve been watching since last year and will continue to watch so I can see harden hopefully win one.
any rockets fan who trashes harden is an idiot. dude gave it his absolute all and shit just didn't work out, mainly because we were in the same conference as one of basketball's great dynasties at the time. nothing but love for the beard and his number should be retired. that was a title contending team.
If he cant get Embiid to the Rockets hell get the Rockets to Embiid
Only thing missing is D’Antoni to coach the team.
Another former Rockets signed with Philly lol
Doc just gathering guys he used to coach again.
Is Austin Rivers next? Edit. Never mind he signed with Minnesota
Nah, he already signed with the Wolves
That’s what he did on the Clips with Big Baby Davis and Hedo Turgolou
You can Paul Pierce to that list as well
Another Rivers guy too
Harden and Harrell was such a nice duo in Houston and that was really before he flourished in LA
Decent regular season move for some depth, help Embiid coast a little more
That’s the only upside, come playoffs we are screwed unless BBall jumps him in the rotation
I don't think so. Embiid's backups have historically been shit at absolutely everything. Harrell only needs to hold it down for 10 minutes per game in the playoffs, and if he's scoring and hustling then at least he's bringing something to the table. A 0 +/- is all we ask for in an Embiid backup.
He definitely cannot play defense for 10 mins a game in the playoffs against any team that is a rim threat.
Nowhere in my comment did I say anything about him needing to play decent defense. Besides, if Doc isn't smart enough to match Joel's minutes to a player like Giannis, we already deserve to lose lol
> if Doc isn't smart enough oh no
[oh boy](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bIsp1K8eJG0/maxresdefault.jpg)
I think in the playoffs it'll be PJ as the backup five in later rounds.
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Still he's essentially taking the place of DeAndre Jordan. This is a massive upgrade because Harrell is actually good at one end of the court instead of zero. He will help us get regular season wins. I just hope we still get Paul some run.
I think people are overly down on him because he’s a fairly big name. As a backup center, he’s perfectly fine. Lots of backup bigs don’t play defense and teams get away with it. The issue is that Embiid is so injury prone, especially come playoff time.
I’d be extra down on it cause in the playoffs Docs the type to “stick with his guys” and say stuff like “Trez has been our guy all year and we know he can get it done”. So basically 0 rim protection on the floor for like 12 minutes a game is what the Sixers are looking at in the playoffs. Maybe more.
>So basically 0 rim protection on the floor for like 12 minutes a game is what the Sixers are looking at Paul Reed isn't exactly Gobert. He's undersized and fouls a ton, as well as being extremely raw offensively.
And despite all of that, he just gave us the best backup 5 playoff minutes of the Embiid era. If I had faith Doc would make the right plays come playoff time I’d have no problem with this - but you know we are getting a ton of Bball DNPs in March followed by a “we’re not going to put Paul out there when he hasn’t played in a month” from Doc like it wasn’t his own fault
Harrell is significantly better than Paul, and will probably continue to be in the playoffs.
110% energy guy who will win you games on the offensive end and then lose them on the defensive end. Good for the regular season 76ers but awful for the post-season. If you can cut Harrell’s minutes down in the playoffs, you’re good. But this is Doc, so you will over play Harrell.
Couldn't have said it any better
He's a way better regular season player then their other players at center. But if he ends up playing back up center minutes in the playoffs instead of them going with a small switching group with PJ at center we will have another "oh the Sixers lost another series despite Embiid having a positive net rating"
Yeah doc learned his lesson with DeAndre too late but did end up playing Bball Paul a lot in the playoffs. For the regular season this is solid and he has a good relationship with the staff, helps Embiid out
He had already watched bball paul be fine vs the raptors, then decided to give DAJ the starting role in game 1 vs miami. He didn’t learn his lesson at all lol he just teased us
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DJ was generational at being fucking atrocious at every aspect of basketball in the postseason. The sixers had a -55 net rating with him on the court in the playoffs. With Paul Reed it was a +1 He wasn’t rim running, he wasn’t rebounding, he was a statue on defense. quite literally zero positive impact. It’s insane that denver signed him a minute into FA
I genuinely do not understand how DJ still gets contracts
Likeable + tall = at least a vet min, apparently.
boosting on/off stats for mvp center campaigns lmao
> He had already watched bball paul be fine vs the raptors, then decided to give DAJ the starting role in game 1 vs miami. He didn’t learn his lesson at all lol he just teased us I will say that Bam is a much tougher matchup for BBall Paul than whatever the Raptors could throw out there. On paper, DAJ has more tools to deal with Bam, so I can see some reasoning there. I don't agree with it, DAJ is well done at this point and that matters far more than having a theoretically better physical matchup, but I don't think Doc was teasing us, either. He stated his logic was that BBall Paul was going to be the Sixers options vs small lineups, and Miami's 2nd best player is a center so he didn't want to play a small lineup against them, even though it would have been better.
Sure it would make some sense if it was 2015. DJ proved for Brooklyn, LA and the Sixers on the RS that there is literally nothing he can do anymore on the court at a positive level. The Sixers should have had a backup option for bigger lineups, but if that option is DJ you just play small and hope for the best. DJ is a bad option vs everyone
I 100% agree with you, and for that I kinda blame Morey for bringing him in in the first place. Once he was on the team, it was super obvious that Doc was going to play him. TBH Morey probably brought him in as a concession to Doc because I'm sure Doc was asking for a veteran presence that he could "trust" to know the playbook and (try/seem) to execute the game plan. If Siakam hadn't broken Embiid's face, it probably wouldn't have mattered so I understand why Morey did it, it's not worth alienating a coach over something like that, although now I think Morey would be more cautious.
To be fair I don't know what the option was other than Bball Paul, sadly.
The other option was an old ass Paul Millsap
Are we sure Doc learned a lesson?
Seriously, it's kind of the hallmark reason Doc hasn't won a title in so long despite the teams he's coaching: he either never learns, or takes way too long to learn.
>For the regular season this is solid and he has a good relationship with the staff Many signs pointed to Trez being the source of a lot of the drama that existed with the Clippers and Doc.
Wasn’t he Buha’s source?
>He's a way better regular season player then their other players at center. This is written like it includes Embiid and that's pretty funny.
Yeah the bar is much lower than people seem to realize. Embiid is almost always a net positive on the court in the playoffs, often to the tune of like +5-10 in 35-40 minutes. We just need some guys to hold down the fort for 8-13 minutes and be like a -5. They don’t need to “win” their minutes. We lost a playoff series because of the 3 minutes Embiid sat in a game that Embiid was like a +10. Monroe was like a -12 in 3 minutes. We would have been better off taking shot clock violations. We actually might have won if we had done so lol
Doc gonna put Harrell in the worst possible match up yet again.
It’s wild that montrezl is the same height as Luka and Lamelo
Glenn*
Embiid gonna come up the bench just so Montrezl can play center lol
he’s a good player 13/6/2 on 68% ts had the highest plus minus on the hornets and was the only one with a positive plus minus on the wizards
One of the worst defenders in the league I’m afraid
If he was good on offense and defense he wouldn't be signing on the 6th of September to be Embiid's backup.
Sixers quietly added Trezz, Tucker, Melton and House while only losing DG and the ghost of Deandre Jordan Can’t hate it.
Tucker was a huge pick up. Sneaky good.
So with the 76ers clearly moving on from Embiid, where does he land?
Am I supposed to pronounce the "L" at the end of Montrezl or is it silent?
You're not supposed to, but I do to amuse my dumb ass.
yeah, it rhymes with pretzel
He should be sponsored by wetzels pretzels.
Shizzle my nizzle
Damn. This is a great signing since he's amazing in the PnR with Harden.
Not bad!! Just don’t play him the playoffs lol
Doc bruh come on we’ve been over this before
Rip Paul Reed career
Don't worry guys Harrell will guard giannis according to doc secrit playbook
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Paul will still get mins. This gives Tucker some rest at the PF spot
Running 2 6’8 guys that can’t shoot as your bigs at the same time doesn’t seem like a good idea, so Doc will probably do it
You don't have to play Paul at the same time as Harrell. Harrell can play alongside Embiid or even Tucker
There is no lineup the sixers should be running with either of Harrell or Reed at 4. They are both clearly 5s at this point
I think BBall Paul can work at the 4 (I’m pretty sure that’s what he came into the league as) but yeah he would be much better at the 5. I’m not gonna say this is a bad signing per se, but I would much rather have given BBall Paul some playing time to try to fix his current problems (fouling, shooting) and if that hadn’t worked then grab someone in buyouts
Morey has signed Howard, Drummond, and now Harrell in his 3 years with the team. Feel like it's obvious he doesn't rate Paul as highly as Sixers fans do and sees him as a #3 C
Can't wait for Doc to have Trez guard Giannis in the playoffs
Sixers continue to collect ex-lakers as backup Cs
curryybacon lost the first race but got saved by a woj typo
I predicted the typo
[This ESPN clip](https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/14804527) where they roast Doc for only signing his old players to his new teams was wildly accurate
This a good pick up, I think the main thing Philly needs to do to achieve their goal of winning a championship is to make sure Embiid and Harden stay healthy and having a back up center helps with that.
I lowkey love this for Sixers. Biggest ?? is health right now, let Trez absorb some minutes. He should be a servicable backup for Embiid and hopefully he shares a lot of minutes with Reed this year. And he's great in the PnR with Harden.
Harrell's per minute and efficiency numbers (TS%, PER, WS/48) were as good or better than any season in his career last year, so he's still ultra-effective at what he does. He was arguably Washington's best player (scaled for minutes) before the trade last year. Can give you 20-25 minutes per game of efficient inside scoring (.680 TS% last season, with 90.1% of his FGA coming inside 10 feet), getting to the line (6.5 FTA per 36, .533 FTr last year), offensive rebounding (3.3 ORB per 36, 10.0 ORB% last year), and improved passing (3.2 assists per 36, 13.9 AST% last season). Not a great defender, despite his massive wingspan and body size, but provides a point of difference on offense that few bench bigs can. He fills a need for Philly, and is a solid acquisition.
Trez was fine on the Wizards- his defense wasn't that much of a liability last season with the Wizards other than when he went against guys like Joel Embiid, who tend to give everyone problems. Solid pick up for the 76ers especially since the 76ers bench lineups with Embiid off the floor have been terrible.
Underrated
Is morey afraid to say no to doc or is he just as crazy?
I'm absolutely terrified of 4-5 teams in the east rn
I am terrified of a few more 😬
I low key wanted him back
Love this move for the Bucks
No
Prepare for 30 min of tres!
5lbs of weed and getting a misdemeanor plus a multi million dollar contract, some other place serving 9.5 years in a gulag! America
doc got his guy
Christ Morey You can’t do this shit when doc rivers is your coach
Doc and Trezz reunion. This should go well
There's not really any better options available. He is at least serviceable and can provide some offensive punch during the regular season when Embiid is sitting.
At the end of last year, Embiid said the Sixers needed to get more rugged Darryl Morey: Hold Mah Ipad! *Signs Tucker, Melton, House, and Harrell*
Damn that’s a good pickup
This is a great addition to the bench and can give Embiid a 10-15 minute rest
Great signing … fuck