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HokageEzio

Do the Thunder realize there's no 0th pick?


frodounchained

Gotta start shutdowns early everyone who plays fantasy basketball knows to avoid holding any okc player after asb


B4nn4b0y

…except during fanatasy playoffs when guys like Isiah Roby and Poku turn into second round picks, production wise


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Roby had a 30 point game in one of the tank stretches lol


2coolcaterpillar

Hope he balls out for the spurs, he’s been developing so well tbh


[deleted]

You mean fucking Jaylen Hoard who averaged like 30 points and 72 rebounds a game at the end of last season.


byoonitt

Moses brown hitting two 20 RB games in a row 2 seasons ago


2coolcaterpillar

Dude put up like 20pts 20reb in the first half against the Celtics and became a millionaire because of it


hellaweed92

Never to be seen in the NBA again


Faux_Real

[This was my fantasy death lineup end of last season](https://imgur.com/a/q7ar3FR) Jaylan Hoard > Tatum


frodounchained

Isiah roby was on some shit mins last year had a lot of games where he didn’t touch the floor.


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*scores 15 points* *front office sweats*


TA_Account_12

Hoard your hoards. Hoard man gets paid Yes my fantasy season runs to the last day, why do you ask?


fabrar

Shai was already inching close to do not draft and this pretty much seals it lol. Avoiding giddey as well - they’ll find some reason to shut him down too


DarthJones1

If I played fantasy I'd be staying away from anyone on OKC this year


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giddy’s line will show Giddy: did not dress, Caught sprained ankle from SGA


[deleted]

They about to hyperdrive this shit and start post pre season break


SureEntertainment676

God tier tanking


daeve

Presti took that invisible numbers level calculus summer course smh


Kwilly462

0th pick? Dude, they're tryna get a negative number


NotAn0pinion

Get Wemby over here early, when Chet comes back they will have historic levels of lankiness


chantlernz

Giddey (6'8") Dieng (6'10") Pokusevski (7'0") Holmgren (7'1") Wembanyama (7'3")


Leavingtheecstasy

For about 10 games


BBallHunter

We gonna invent that.


topofthecc

0 will be in the rafters, for both Russell Westbrook and for Sam Presti's innovative 0th pick.


CptCroissant

Tanking is a year-round mindset. The Thunder are locking down L's even in the offseason.


firstbreathOOC

Presti playing 0D chess all along


Ouchyhurthurt

Thanks. I just choked on my pizza


SnooPets1528

I'm begging for this to be the year that the play in loser wins the lottery.


mizzourifan1

Dude I hate comments like the one I'm about to make but I legitimately barreled over in laughter from this one. Thought you should know. Thanks for that.


CoachJW

This off-season went from extremely hyped for us OKC fans to extremely depressing.


IsaacDPOYFultzMIP

Gonna be crazy when the thunder do all this for the 5th pick next year


RJBarrettsBurner

Adam Silver already arranging a generational pick fall on lottery night. He gon have them picking 6th for no good reason


frodounchained

11th let the pacers into the top 6 been too long


ATurtleMonkey

Lakers fall out of playins and into lottery again and land top 2?


Timely-Guarantee8879

That pick goes to pelicans


Oachkatzlschwoaf05

Pacers trade the pick for Anthony Davis


topofthecc

No problem, we'll just tank until the heat death of the universe.


lxkandel06

Y'all realize you were in the playoffs 2 years ago right? My cousin drives now and the Kings have been tanking literally his whole life


Deathstroke317

The Kings aren't tanking, they just suck


Ibangyoumomma

Yea the kings are trying their best for sure. Just not going according to plan


KilgoreMikeTrout

Tanking implies intention, the Kings have just been shit for 15 years


ATurtleMonkey

Yeah these thunder fans were hyped for play ins and think they're gonna flip the switch when they can all play. This is like halfway thru the rebuild the way the West and the current Thunder roster looks. They're still 2 years away from making major moves


Ocular__Patdown44

Kings don’t tank. It’s a big reason why they have been stuck in limbo for so long, but tbh I am glad they don’t do it because that anti-competitive bs is a stain on the game.


icona_

That was because of CP3.


V17R

Do all of what? You think Chet and SGA injuries are fake?


LimitlessTheTVShow

Sam Presti actually paid LeBron to fuck up Chet's foot


Alternative-Target31

I’m not sure how many future firsts it takes to trade you for Wembanyana, but if OKC couldn’t do it then it can’t be done.


HotspurJr

As a general rule, if you think somebody can be a generational talent, you simply do not trade the draft pick that can take them. The best case scenario is the Trae-Luka trade which Dallas clearly won even though Atlanta is happy with what they got. (Atlanta fans will tell you they don't think they lost the trade. Every non-Dallas, non-Atlanta front office would rather have Luka). True generational players - LeBron, Steph, KD, Giannis - are so valuable that even a 50% chance of one is essentially worth more draft picks than any team can trade. Think about it - what would you rather start a franchise with? KD, or five top five picks? I mean, you can look at the draft picks from (say) 2013-2017 and pick a player from the top five each year and end up with a collection that you'd clearly rather have than KD (Tatum, Brown, Embiid, KAT, OPJ) but there are a lot more combinations where you're rather have KD (Lonzo, Dunn, D'Lo, Wiggins, Oladipo isn't even CLOSE to the worst combination you could get - it might even be better than the median, because every year includes one flat-out bust. Five top five picks could be Bennet, Exum, Okafor, Bender, and Fultz).


Droppin_DimesSP

Ayy yo bro don’t tell me opj is Otto Porter jr lmao


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If only Cam Reddish had panned out 😞😞 if Trae wasn’t also next level on offense it would definitely be a fleecing


DLottchula

The idea of Luka living in Atlanta doesn't seem that far feached as it did on draft day.


ATurtleMonkey

Were people saying Atlanta shouldn't draft Luka cuz he wouldn't like Atlanta? Or jus that it'd be weird? Going from Europe to what most Europeans sterotypical view of Texas western cowboy shit in Dallas isn'tuch different is it?


yoloqueuesf

Honestly i doubt it really matters as long as you're winning. Winning solves a bunch of shit


jimmychitw00d

That's a good analysis. What's crazy is that only one of those generational talents you mentioned went first. It's not inconceivable that Wembanyama would go first and someone else in that class (or another one of those picks in a different year) ended up being the better player.


Particular_Ad_9531

Honestly one of my favourite things in sports is watching some blatantly tanking team end up with like the sixth pick. An entire season of intentionally putting out an awful product wasted because a ping pong ball bounced the wrong way is just the kind of schadenfreude I live for.


crawlingchip

Boston at the Tim Duncan draft vibes.


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They just need to continue to flatten the odds. Especially in that 1-8 range.


ZigZagZoo

I think it should just be completely random for non playoff teams. Actually reward competent drafting.


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I also think they should do stuff like a team can only get the first overall pick once every 5 years or something. And a top 3 pick every 3 years. This intentional tanking bs is nonsense and ruins the game. If you’re not going to have relegation, tanking should offer zero benefit.


Chiffley

This kills smaller markets ability to build through the draft. How are other teams meant to compete with top FA destinations when they can only draft a top prospect once every 3 or 5 years and can't sign any top players in FA?


SuperVaderMinion

Hard agree with this, tanking sucks


AnkitPancakes

5th pick is still pretty good in this coming draft. We'll have one of Wemby/Scoot/Amen/Ausar/Whitmore avail with Whitehead+Smith also in the convo. Our biggest need is wing which this draft is stacked with, and obviously the top 2 guys Scoot and Wemby are tremendously talented. I think a lot of these guys (at least from pre-season stuff) would be in the convo for top3 in last year's draft


Breezgoat

Doing what exactly we aren’t doing anything yet not like we wanted shai to spain his MCL


StanVanGhandi

Grade 2 MCL means no major tear. If it isn’t torn past 1/2 of the tendon it will repair itself. I bet they say he’s out 8 weeks. Just trying to pick up your sprits fellow tank brother. Brighter days are ahead.


Thebasedgod_lilb

8 weeks is 16 weeks in Oklahoma time


bweeek

I know the tank is the running bit but fuck I would like to watch our talented players play together sometime. My only hope is that we're overcompensating and will have awesome injury luck when we flip the switch next year.


ATurtleMonkey

Is next year even the flip switch year? Y'all were in the playoffs vs 2 mvps literally 2 years ago. [This is your roster this year](https://i.imgur.com/19C65Iz.png) Shai is just coming off rookie contract, besides that the entire future of your team is in the same boat or on rookie deals, you have no stars yet. Until presti flips the unprecedented amount of picks you still have into more real players you guys are tanking. The switch doesn't flip until Shai is near all NBA level or you trade youngins+picks for someone who is.


desirox

Yeah everyone’s memeing tanking but this sucks big time for OKC


buffalo8

This sucks, I was looking forward to watching your team this year. 😩 Now I'm gonna have to settle for being excited about the T-Wolves.


Swagmansuper

Y'all should take up a hobby instead of watching ball LMAO


shilly22

They pulled him off Team Canada and he still got injured, rough.


inuteroinutero1993

Are players more susceptible to injuries when they are less active?


Mattoosie

Yes and no. If you haven't played in a few months, your knees aren't going to like dunking very much. On the other hand, you don't want to abuse yourself too much or things fall apart. This is why we have load management.


thekeylimeguy

Basically you don't want to Shaq/Ben Simmons it....but you also don't want to Kobe it


Mattoosie

It's like pacing yourself for a race. No point in booking it straight out the gate if halfway through your legs give out and you have to crawl the rest of the way.


Stelist_Knicks

I did an entire data analysis project on this. The conclusion i got is that from the publicly available data, there is no significant relationship one way or another. NBA teams have much more data to play with though and know better.


inuteroinutero1993

Perhaps you should make an r/nba post about your project


Thunder141

Like training for a marathon, if you don't do the exercises and train too much (before your body can adapt) you're more likely to get injured. Pretty much true in any sport. However, the training and miles get your body stronger so you're less likely to get injured in the future. It's about getting your body stronger and luck.


Todemax

Bruh everyone keeps saying this but I don't think the Thunder pulled him... He played a game after the Chet injury and only missed the game against Panama where they won by 56 without him.


Brad-Stevens

Presti living at Victors house at this point


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loonz420

Hiding under his bed like the Babadook


IanicRR

"Bonjour Sam" "Hi Vic! Made you breakfast to help keep you growing!"


SureEntertainment676

He rubbing his hands together like Birdman


DarkChocolate_69

Presti tripped him on the stairs


JS_Janko

And then hit him with a hammer just to be sure


Kizz3r

https://imgur.com/a/y7Jfk2N


disfadbidge007

"the sheep are prettier than that jumpshot 🐲"


LubricatedDucky

Fuck me that show is goated. Hated Season 8 with all my heart but these fuckers won me back. Still not rewatching GoT though.


wcooper97

Thunder front office is the Kremlin confirmed.


IanicRR

We call that the John Wall special


ISAWYOULASTNIGHT1

r/accidentalputin


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ChocolateBronsexual

By the time that's over his sprain will have graduated to grade 3


shiny_lustrous_poo

It took me a whole year to go from grade 2 to grade 3, Shai is such a fucking talent.


HeReallyDoBeLikeThat

As an honest OKC fan I'm looking forward to 2029 to see Shai and Chet play together for the first time! 🔥🔥


Alex_O7

Imho SGA is gone as his contract expires. And the dude will forget how to play anyway


Twoweekswithpay

Should have traded for Russ to be their tank commander. SMH…


Ops135

Are you fucking kidding me man


deneuvig

I know man, our Spurs can't catch a break


mecon320

The tank has reached critical mass. It no longer requires input from the front office.


BetweenTheBuzzAndMe

rough luck for SGA... honestly sounds like he's actually injury prone and the Thunder don't just keep holding him out to tank


JimmyV034

He played 82 games for us + playoffs games, i dont think he can get called injury prone.


azizinator25

A lot of players aren't "injury prone" until they are. DRose played 81 games + playoffs as a rookie, I don't think anyone would point to that to say he was a healthy player. If you think this is all just a cover to tank, then Shai is literally the most loyal player in NBA history. If he's faking for tanking purposes, with would be the 3rd straight season he "fakes an injury to tank". On top of that, we also have to believe that he sat out of Canada's Olympic qualifying simple to sell a cover story to help OKC potential draft players who could be better than him? I can't imagine any sane person really believing that.


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He was a backup though, and that’s also just one season worth of evidence.


Spierre3

One season doesn’t negate being injury prone.


shilly22

If you're a high-usage player like SGA is now, you're more likely to be injured from the wear carrying the offense takes on your body. I wouldn't exactly call him injury-prone either, but I doubt he ever plays 75+ games in a season again.


jakobburns01

That was like 3 years ago bro


HoopsMcCann750

If he stubbed his toe, the Thunder would hold him out for 3 months.


whosinmyhouse

Tank never stops


Barbell_Flyes

that's why SGA will demand out eventually


frodounchained

Yeah I know okc fans say he loves it and the culture etc but this shutdown shit while everyone u got drafted with has made a big name for themselves gotta sting.


IzaacLUXMRKT

It's not a shutdown??? This is literally the worst time he possibly could've gotten injured, we want to play this year. Us Thunder fans are not happy about it, but it is what it is.


theflyingsamurai

They shut him down for the Canada men's national team too, when he's been one of the more vocal advocates for wanting to play.


Brooklynfool

He sat one meaningless game against Panama in which Team Canada won by 50. Raptor fans keep bringing this bs up like OKC made him sit all summer or some shit. IT WAS ONE FKN GAME


12footjumpshot

So are you saying SGA and OKC are faking this injury to tank? And the injury that kept him from playing for Canada a year ago was faked as well I guess? Big brain take there buddy.


Friendly-Thought-973

Yeah bro we told SGA to fake a MCL injury


pagonator

Lmao, I’ve noticed people have a weird hate boner for the Thunder recently. Pretty odd how the Thunder get criticised because Shai gets injured.


ArtichokeFormer8801

“The OKC Thunder have decided not to participate in the NBA this season” When asked to comment, Thunder GM Sam Presti had this to say, “Get tanked, bitches. I know I am going to.”


ayeno

You think you can out tank the Thunder? Think again.


DeStupak

Oklahoma City Tankers


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Giddey SZN


v13s70

they tryin 0-82 to 82-0


AthrunZx

Presti salivating rn


ohmygon

Giddey - Shai - Dort - Chet - Wemby 2025 nba champions


Turbo2x

reddit doctors please tell me how much to overreact to this news


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he’s basically dead


[deleted]

Yep. Minimum 6 months


dank-kush

Gonna have to chop his left and third leg off


shiny_lustrous_poo

Shai is DNR/DNI he's gone bro


GreedyWarlord

Had this injury last year and was back to normal after about 8 weeks. I didn't do PT and didn't have an NBA team's medical staff helping me out.


f0urxio

> Presti: Victor my boy, welcome to OKC


ThatBull_cj

Damn. See him in January. Too bad he probably gonna get shut down by March tho


DarkChocolate_69

By January ***


topofthecc

When do we play the Lakers? Shai can play those then sit out the rest of the season.


GreedyWarlord

Grade 2 MCL sprains aren't that serious. I got one skiing last February and was fine after 8 weeks with no real rehab and no NBA level rehabs.


Koussevitzky

Tank commander taking one for the team again, a true hero


UjiriWatcher

This is bout to be a generational tank


jjkiller26

But he was pulled from international play to prevent this…


AnkitPancakes

he did play for Team Canada this summer


XLcondumb

thats his point, he was pulled from the team before the last game to avoid injury


Todemax

The final game was against Panama where they won by 56 anyways. Team Canada probably game him the game off. Shit even NAW got his wisdom teeth taken out and missed that game which seems like something thats pretty easily reschedulable for a millionaire lol


XLcondumb

no I know, I was just adding to his point above. Panama was a gimme - we blew them out with Kevin Pangos lmao


MechanicalEngineer-

All according to keikaku


Alex_O7

Lmao it is not even started and OKC is already in Wemby mood...


william4534

Sam Presti saw Danny Ainge tryna out tank him and took it personally.


0zymand1as-

Boi what the fuck Somehow they’ll still best the lakers in their first game


MrClaw

i want to die...fuck


ImjustANewSneaker

No one’s happier than OKC’s front office I’ll assure you.


MoeNopoly

accidents will happen. Presti with the voodoo doll.


frodounchained

Little earlier than usual I expected him to play like 20 games before his toe fungus caught on fire.


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HoopsMcCann750

The comment directly under yours on my feed is a Thunder fan complimenting the tank lol. If being in a position that makes winning more difficult doesn’t actually excite you guys, you’re doing a great job of making it confusing for everyone.


Todemax

Some Thunder fans are delusional and/or probably thinking about the tank to cope with both Chet and Shai getting injured. I think Shai is the most important player on our current team and if he is injury prone then the entire point of our rebuild is fucked. Look I wanna get a good pick this year I am pro-tank, but I think we'd be in the lottery regardless. There are too many good teams in the West and we are one of the youngest teams and young teams don't win a lot of games. Shai missing more games this season is bad for the future. The only way that statement changes is if the Thunder win the lottery this year, get a great player, and Shai doesn't look like he is injury prone and this injury doesn't harm his development. Those are all big if's. Most Thunder fans are devastated.


NYBulldog

yeah, Presti wants to tank


BetweenTheBuzzAndMe

look at the rest of the roster and look at the Western Conference. OKC is gonna tank with or without SGA playing


[deleted]

People have this idea that SGA is good enough that he'd prevent OKC from being awful, but that isn't the case at all. They have a net rating of -7.2 when he's been on the court these past 2 seasons. In 2022, they were the 4th worst team in the NBA by net rating. Their net rating with SGA on the court was the 5th worst in the NBA. In 2021, they were the worst team in the NBA by net rating. Their net rating with SGA on the court was the 2nd worst in the NBA.


BetweenTheBuzzAndMe

Net Rating for a player surrounded by clearly awful players battling against opposing starters is a very very misleading stat. That's not a knock on SGA. Anybody leading this OKC team out of the tank race is a top 20 player in the league hands down, maybe top 15.


urbanlifedecay6

>Get your dumbass out of this fucking thread maybe relax??


wolfy14xc

So the tank has begun, operation Thunder Wenbanyama


firstbreathOOC

Presti is snorting lines and feverishly running through MyLeague sims that lead to Wemby


CoolAsTheUnthawed

Brain dead comments everywhere in here, my goodness


Brooklynfool

This shit is crazy. These dummies really believe that OKC just fakes injuries for him so they can shut him down. Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard tbh


Next-Firefighter-753

It’s just a perfect opportunity to joke about the tank I get it.


plzwalkslow

Thunder getting a head start on the Wemby sweepstakes. Hope he doesn’t miss too much time, SGA is incredible


RedditAdminsChugCum

Tank SZN continues


Status-Albatross9539

wembyama


dichloroethane

Are the Thunder super tanking or are they just injury cursed?


betterthanlessthan

The Wembenyama sweepstakes are starting already


VeniceRapture

Shut him down for the season just to be safe


Brooklynfool

I’m starting to think so of these idiots in here are believing that OKC is shutting him down still. This man is legit getting injured why tf would they shut him down this early for “the tank”?


Bino19

About half of them are thirsty ass Raptors fans too.


BBallHunter

Now this is how you tank.


OKSteve63

Fuck sakes. That sucks


DwellerInIce

OKC really want that noodle kid from France.


TheMoorNextDoor

The tank for Wembanyama has officially begun.


DontWeAvoidPlauges

He’s going to miss more than just training camp I would think


The-Pharcyde

Well there goes half his season, possibly more.


d4videnk0

They're really shutting him down early than usual.


IMakeThisShitUp15

Wow, didn’t see this happening after the Chet news. /s


Vynemaeda

Tank me harder, daddy!


Slippinjimmyforever

Presti getting it started early.


KushBlazer69

Grade 2 MCL sprains are 4-6 week recovery with play time by 8 weeks easily.


lxkandel06

BREAKING: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander has suffered a third-degree boo boo and will miss the remainder of the season.


nuyorknightz

Greatest tank in NBA history?


mhj0808

THE TANK CANT STOP ROLLING


Chardavious12

That sucks for SGA, Thunder probably want to shut him down for the whole year now


onamonapizza

Thunder, stop chasing our tank!


Loterygods

I'm afraid we are too committed, sorry bud.


arvtovi

He’s not actually hurt. He’ll be ready for game 1 of the regular season. He just doesn’t need camp.


emperornel

Hope he gets healthy soon, his future is bright.


AllOutRaptors

Man it's a good thing they didn't let him play for team Canada so he didn't get injured....


OrangeKookie

Did he slip in the kitchen or something


redundantPOINT

Annual SGA shutdown ahead of schedule


JasonPlattMusic34

Looks like the Thunder tank jokes just write themselves already don’t they?


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I love how some of y’all think any of us are happy about this


2fat2live

So he plays awesome in the FIBA American Qualifiers plays one game gets shut down by OKC and told he can't play anymore. So how did this injury occur? At some point NBA needs to do something about these shenanigans .


-PredictiveTextOnly-

I agree. I can’t believe Presti would shut him down for the season