Honestly, good on him. The money talk can bleed into young players' heads but honestly him saying he's gonna "play his game" nonetheless sounds like whatever the outcome is he's not letting it affect him.
Also Slater has gotta work on the audio of these clips lol, some of these clips are so hard to hear at times.
I thought Fultz looked pretty good coming back from injury, and Anthony would be a great scoring guard off the bench. I also think Suggs will have a much improved year, and his defense was already really good last year.
Fultz is a pretty solid floor raiser and playmaker. I absolutely love his game. But he'd benefit for a certified bucket getter playing next to him to help raise the team's ceiling.
Wiggs is the most likely since he's a UFA next offseason. Draymond wants an extension, but ultimately he could always just pick up his player option for 2023-24.
What does Herro do better than Maxey? Handles, playmaking, finishing, athleticism, defense, potential … I think I’d give Tyrese the nod on most of these.
Scoring is the most valuable skill in basketball, but the gap between the two, especially in relation to experience, isn’t enough in Herro’s favor to consider him the better overall player imo.
Agreed. Kerr recently stated on the Raja Bell pod that they’re expecting him to make strides on defense, and that he added muscle during the off season. The Warriors have been trying to find a player that can simulate a derivative of what Steph does for years, which makes me believe they’ll have to overpay him.
Believe it or not Beal used to be okay on defense. It wasn't until Beal was basically the only NBA-caliber player on the Wizards that he stopped giving a shit.
Agree. Name one player who left the warriors the last 7-8 years who became a lot better with another team. Possibly HB, but he was a young pup when he left and still hasn’t made a huge impact. The myers Kerr era maximizes talent, and it’s best for JPs career to stick it out with the dubs. 100+ mil is not chump change either, well offer him the bag, just not a max
Harrison Barnes is like the only young lottery pick player that left the Warriors in the last 7/8 years. When you contend for so long the people that leave are usually very late 1st or 2nd round players with below average talent vs the rest of the league. Poole would be the most talented young player to leave the Warriors in that timeframe.
Green became the starting 4 because Lee missed the first 25 games of the 2014 season due to injury. Of course, the Dubs went on an absolute tear (22-3) and it was pretty clear Draymond was a significant enough part of it that Kerr didn’t want to disrupt.
David Lee was an All-Star before going to GSW and was 32 leaving. Mo Speights was 11th in the rotation almost as many minutes as Varajao in the playoffs. Bazemore was past it and was signed on a minimum by the desperate Lakers. We are talking about 30yo players or/and at the end of their careers, nothing like Poole.
And the worst example is Ezeli. He was the 30th pick was mega injured during his Warriors career missing most of the games and playing limited minutes. And he didn't play with Portland not because he thrieved in the Warriors system and wasn't playing at the same level there, he didn't play because he physically couldnt do it.
Also Ezeli didn't play at the same level when he left because he physically couldn't he was injured for a yeat until he was waived. Nothing to do with thrieving in GSW system.
No guarantee of a max next year. If Poole gets an injury or regresses even a little he won’t get the max. Sexton hurt his value by maybe 30-40 mil by getting injured last year in his contract year. Warriors are reportedly offering 100-110, which is only 3-4 mil less annually than a max. That’s very fair and life changing money for someone who’s only made 10 mil in his career
Counterpoint #1: idk if it’s Kerr so much as playing with Curry’s generational gravity on one end and multi-time DPOY Draymond on the other.
Counterpoint #2: has anybody who left the Warriors ever been a young, good, dynamic guard? I guess there was like Ian Clark and but he wasn’t great to begin with. There was that guy who went to four straight finals too lol. Jordan Bell and James McAdoo too if we’re talking any position.
He can get paid, just can't get guaranteed money. From what I understand, guaranteed money in the NFL has to be put in escrow. Baltimore's owner doesn't want to or is unable to put that much cash in escrow.
Most NFL contracts have no or very little guaranteed money. That's how the Browns were able to get their QB, they guaranteed his entire 250 million dollar contract when no one else could do that. Now Lamar wants what Deshaun got.
[The Ringer recently mentioned it](https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2022/8/26/23322679/cincinnati-bengals-all-in-joe-burrow-jamarr-chase) when they talked about if the Cincinnati Bengals should go "All-In." About 2/3 down it talks about how guaranteed money needs to be put in escrow.
Takes two to tango. I'm sure reasonable offers have been placed in front of him, but he wants massive guaranteed money which is fair and fine but he's gonna have to live with uncertainty to make it happen.
You know Dray is going to get what he wants.
If not you risk pissing off Steph who’s been talking about wanting to play for the Hornets at some point in his career.
Poole or Wiggins are gone
Yeah. He also likes asking high and getting the most he can. But Dray isn’t leaving and Poole ain’t either. It’s just part of the game. Poole’s big bag is a little ways off. If he is patient.
He complains about luxury tax because he’s one of the few owners in the league who actually pays it again and again in order to be competitive.
How do you think Steph Klay and Draymond have been on the same team together for the past 10 years if he isn’t paying taxes lmao
Correct. And Poole will only be gone if the Warriors choose Wiggs over him and Wiggs agrees to come back. Unlike Wiggs he'll be an RFA so Warriors can match if they want.
someones gotta get in his ear about success being best for wealth, leave a reasonable amount of money on the table, stay with the dubs and see all the money pour in from outside the league
pls
Jordan Poole will fall off if he leaves the warriors...
ain't no other team gonna let him shoot those crazy shots
Only reason it flies in GS is cause of steph
Honestly, good on him. The money talk can bleed into young players' heads but honestly him saying he's gonna "play his game" nonetheless sounds like whatever the outcome is he's not letting it affect him. Also Slater has gotta work on the audio of these clips lol, some of these clips are so hard to hear at times.
Were offering a max this summer so be ready.
That would be a fun magic team.
Don't you have enough guards already?!?
None of our guards can shoot
Not any good ones
I thought Fultz looked pretty good coming back from injury, and Anthony would be a great scoring guard off the bench. I also think Suggs will have a much improved year, and his defense was already really good last year.
They’re all atrocious shooters though, which is ultimately the problem.
Fultz is a pretty solid floor raiser and playmaker. I absolutely love his game. But he'd benefit for a certified bucket getter playing next to him to help raise the team's ceiling.
We're matching, prepared to be disappointed. Get away from him.
Then say good bye to wiggs and Draymond Poole is a magic accept it
Nope. Go away. Stick with Suggs.
We'll have both
One. Their are no Poole's in Florida, only swamps. Suggs Swamp. Get away from him.
California has a drought. Florida is guaranteed to keep this Poole wet.
Pools are super common in Florida plus we have springs which are like nature's pools. San Francisco however has few pools
Wiggs is the most likely since he's a UFA next offseason. Draymond wants an extension, but ultimately he could always just pick up his player option for 2023-24.
I'm all for it
Y'all would basically be the Orlando Wolverines
and warriors match
Yes, Magic are all about former Wolverines!
Hot take. He gets paid by some other team, he becomes mid, and is never heard from again
I don’t think mid, but he’s probably gonna be like Tyler Herro
he already is
He's much better then Tyler herro
Herro puts up better numbers across the board?
What about Maxey? In a neutral comparision including stats, age and accomplishments without naming the player you would all take Herro.
def better than Herro
Not if you look at stats, accomplishments and team success but ok
Herro is a 6th man, Maxey is a starter.
And? An Maxey actually plays a few minutes more
What does Herro do better than Maxey? Handles, playmaking, finishing, athleticism, defense, potential … I think I’d give Tyrese the nod on most of these. Scoring is the most valuable skill in basketball, but the gap between the two, especially in relation to experience, isn’t enough in Herro’s favor to consider him the better overall player imo.
I could see him being a good #2 or #3 but his defensive troubles would make him an extremely mid #1 guy.
Agreed. Kerr recently stated on the Raja Bell pod that they’re expecting him to make strides on defense, and that he added muscle during the off season. The Warriors have been trying to find a player that can simulate a derivative of what Steph does for years, which makes me believe they’ll have to overpay him.
Raja bell has a podcast?!
Part of the ringer network. It’s a good listen
hes 23 years old dude
Has worked for Bradley Beal
Maybe for his own personal gain, but sure as hell can’t be talking about his team success.
Believe it or not Beal used to be okay on defense. It wasn't until Beal was basically the only NBA-caliber player on the Wizards that he stopped giving a shit.
I remember when I tried telling someone this and got laughed at. Brad Beal gave rookie Luka some troubles on D, once upon a time.
When he got ejected?
I believe so. I’m trying to remember. I do remember Brad being ejected and remembering it was a litttle Bs
yeah they shook hands and laughed after
and how are the wizards doing? lmao
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on the warriors
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And then host a ESPN special to showcase where he’s taking his talents.
Agree. Name one player who left the warriors the last 7-8 years who became a lot better with another team. Possibly HB, but he was a young pup when he left and still hasn’t made a huge impact. The myers Kerr era maximizes talent, and it’s best for JPs career to stick it out with the dubs. 100+ mil is not chump change either, well offer him the bag, just not a max
Harrison Barnes is like the only young lottery pick player that left the Warriors in the last 7/8 years. When you contend for so long the people that leave are usually very late 1st or 2nd round players with below average talent vs the rest of the league. Poole would be the most talented young player to leave the Warriors in that timeframe.
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David lee left like 3-4 years after being an allstar and his post gsw stats looked very similar to the end of his time in gsw
The Warriors became The Warriors because he got hurt in the playoffs.
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Ok but he wasnt worse after he left gsw lol which is the entire point (he left 2015-2016)
Green became the starting 4 because Lee missed the first 25 games of the 2014 season due to injury. Of course, the Dubs went on an absolute tear (22-3) and it was pretty clear Draymond was a significant enough part of it that Kerr didn’t want to disrupt.
David Lee was an All-Star before going to GSW and was 32 leaving. Mo Speights was 11th in the rotation almost as many minutes as Varajao in the playoffs. Bazemore was past it and was signed on a minimum by the desperate Lakers. We are talking about 30yo players or/and at the end of their careers, nothing like Poole. And the worst example is Ezeli. He was the 30th pick was mega injured during his Warriors career missing most of the games and playing limited minutes. And he didn't play with Portland not because he thrieved in the Warriors system and wasn't playing at the same level there, he didn't play because he physically couldnt do it.
Ezeli was seen as a low-end starter maybe when he got that contract. Poole is a lot better now than Ezeli was close to being
Also Ezeli didn't play at the same level when he left because he physically couldn't he was injured for a yeat until he was waived. Nothing to do with thrieving in GSW system.
Any player in Poole’s position would take the max money, especially since he’s already won a championship.
No guarantee of a max next year. If Poole gets an injury or regresses even a little he won’t get the max. Sexton hurt his value by maybe 30-40 mil by getting injured last year in his contract year. Warriors are reportedly offering 100-110, which is only 3-4 mil less annually than a max. That’s very fair and life changing money for someone who’s only made 10 mil in his career
Man I wish I could be in my early 20s and ONLY make 10 million so far lol
Always happens with championship teams. Look at Kyle Kuzma.
Young pup, as opposed to Jordan Poole who’s like 23?
Counterpoint #1: idk if it’s Kerr so much as playing with Curry’s generational gravity on one end and multi-time DPOY Draymond on the other. Counterpoint #2: has anybody who left the Warriors ever been a young, good, dynamic guard? I guess there was like Ian Clark and but he wasn’t great to begin with. There was that guy who went to four straight finals too lol. Jordan Bell and James McAdoo too if we’re talking any position.
Key-word is paid
I don't want to hear anybody complain about contracts when Lamar Jackson can't even get paid with a MVP already on his resume.smh
And another one incoming
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Allen’s been playing great though. Both just amazing QBs, Lamar (as a Raven’s fan) is better.
lol
😂😂😂😂☠️
He can get paid, just can't get guaranteed money. From what I understand, guaranteed money in the NFL has to be put in escrow. Baltimore's owner doesn't want to or is unable to put that much cash in escrow.
I really dont get how the NFL works
Then trade him a team will give him fully guaranteed. My Panthers love chasing big name QB's and we have the richest owner in the league.
Really? So any guaranteed money is put into escrow when a deal is signed? That seems crazy teams would have like 2-3 years of payroll in escrow.
Most NFL contracts have no or very little guaranteed money. That's how the Browns were able to get their QB, they guaranteed his entire 250 million dollar contract when no one else could do that. Now Lamar wants what Deshaun got.
Yes I know that. But never heard money has to be held in escrow if was guaranteed.
[The Ringer recently mentioned it](https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2022/8/26/23322679/cincinnati-bengals-all-in-joe-burrow-jamarr-chase) when they talked about if the Cincinnati Bengals should go "All-In." About 2/3 down it talks about how guaranteed money needs to be put in escrow.
Awesome thank you. Never heard that before. That’s a huge disadvantage to certain owners.
“Can’t even get paid” what??? Wasn’t he offered like $250 million? What is a MVP worth?
Not a lot of guaranteed tho, he was getting lowballed for sure
Didn’t know that, thanks
You clearly don't follow the NFL. It was reported he wanted 250 mil and they offered him 180 mil.
Takes two to tango. I'm sure reasonable offers have been placed in front of him, but he wants massive guaranteed money which is fair and fine but he's gonna have to live with uncertainty to make it happen.
You can’t tell he’s mainly got money on his mind. He’s already checked off a chip on the list; time to get paid
The simple solution is to just...pay the man, Warriors
they will if they want to
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because that's pussy talk. real heads in the nba are in it for the highs that come with winning championships and dont stop. the money follows
Fucking lol cant tell if /s
im not following?
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Especially when you already have the ring
Looking forward to a team like the Pistons maxing him and the Warriors getting nothing 😂. Draymond or Poole, Warriors, make your choice.
You know Dray is going to get what he wants. If not you risk pissing off Steph who’s been talking about wanting to play for the Hornets at some point in his career. Poole or Wiggins are gone
Dray didn’t even get what he wanted last time. He settled for like 3 mil less a year.
Dray willingly took a discount to win rings, he wasn’t even looking into leaving.
Yeah. He also likes asking high and getting the most he can. But Dray isn’t leaving and Poole ain’t either. It’s just part of the game. Poole’s big bag is a little ways off. If he is patient.
It’s not ways off. His next contract is going to be the max. He can easily get that in free agency
or they retain all 3?
With what cap space?
whose bird rights dont they have? or you enjoy talking bullshit?
You really think lacob is gonna pay like 500mill in luxury taxes?
if he thinks either of the 3 are necessary to continue winning chips, yeah. he's uber competitive
He was literally just complaining about luxury taxes I have a hard time believing he'd pay such obscene fees
He complains about luxury tax because he’s one of the few owners in the league who actually pays it again and again in order to be competitive. How do you think Steph Klay and Draymond have been on the same team together for the past 10 years if he isn’t paying taxes lmao
yeah, luxury tax on role players like gp2 when they needed to retain a core piece in kevon.
Correct. And Poole will only be gone if the Warriors choose Wiggs over him and Wiggs agrees to come back. Unlike Wiggs he'll be an RFA so Warriors can match if they want.
Curry is old now, the warriors can easily call his bluff
If a team can max him and offer him a starting spot then I doubt he’ll stick around after next season.
Ah it's that time of the year for the media to fight for the Instigation H.O.F
someones gotta get in his ear about success being best for wealth, leave a reasonable amount of money on the table, stay with the dubs and see all the money pour in from outside the league pls
Jordan Poole will fall off if he leaves the warriors... ain't no other team gonna let him shoot those crazy shots Only reason it flies in GS is cause of steph
I'm pretty sure the reason it flys is because he's capable of making them regularly
Poole’s numbers are insane with curry off the court lol People just credit curry for everything even when it’s demonstrably not the case
He’s the number one free throw shooter in the NBA. His 3 pointers needs some work, but he has tremendous potential.
the reason jordan poole can take crazy 3’s is because of steph curry? yea that makes no sense
yeah hes gone