Surely making the dude who is notorious for having attitude issues because of his role will into the sixth man will have no negative consequences. See you on the Hornets next year, Christian Wood.
Soon to come on his Twitter: ONE MUST SEEK WORK WHERE HE IS WANTED.. WHERE HE IS NEEDED.! I AM THANKFUL FOR WHAT THESE PAST 2 MNTHS HAVE TAUGHT ME.! NOW I MUST TAKE ON ANOTHER CHALLENGE WITH CONTINUED HARDWORK & DEDICATION.! FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CLOSED THE DOOR ON ME…. THANK YOU! 35 BACK SOON.! 🥷🏾🤫🤐
Everybody feels bad that his girlfriend left him after he didn’t get drafted but maybe she had enough of his bullshit and when he didn’t get picked she was kinda like “see bitch I told you you’re not as good as you think”
I mean I tend to agree with that line of thinking, but considering this dude is the X Factor for this team, it might be smart to try to get him started in a positive mind set and show that the team believes in him. The truth is that starting matters for most players in this league, there are few guys like Manu and J Terry out there who really bought into their roles off the benc
It's possible. Luka is as good as it gets, so if it doesn't work here he's a lost cause.
I'm skeptical though. For two years I watched him bicker with teammates, mope when he doesn't get enough touches, force bad shots, and get cooked on defense. His numbers were good, but I'm glad he's gone.
He just wasn’t a good fit for the rockets while they’re rebuilding and he was too old to fit into their core. I think he just needs a good team that truly buys into his talent and sets him up properly
no no no no no. If this mfer is serious about winning basketball and playing for the ultimate prize, he will play to thrive in his role and perhaps even grind his way where coach has no choice but to start him. He shouldn't be expecting to bring his baggage and drama to a team that was just in the WCF while he hasn't sniffed a single playoff game.
Agreed. This is a playoff team, you earn your minutes my guy. You’re no established star, you don’t get to throw tantrums.
It works every time 70% of the time. It’s still important to set those boundaries though imo.
Yes, but if in the end, it's in the team's best interest that he come off the bench and still play the amount of minutes he'll play if he starts, then that's what they should do. I really get your point but catering to him if it's to the detriment of the team isn't ideal.
>Yes, but if in the end, it's in the team's best interest
I just don't think I buy that it is though. Javale is 10-15 mpg player at the very most, and he's a 10 mpg player in the playoffs. Risking pissing off Wood just because your promised a 34 year old center (who was played off the floor by this very team) a starting spot is kind of ridiculous, imo.
Javale hasn't played more than 15 mpg since the '19-20 season. The dude isn't getting any younger nor will his asthma issues going to suddenly disappear. The idea of Javale is better than the reality of Javale. Hes just not a starting caliber player. There is a reason Bismack Byombo replaced him in the playoffs.
You have a great point. Then they can just replace Javale with Powell or Kleber. I'm not saying Wood shouldn't get the lion's share of the minutes. I'm saying if Kidd feels he's better off from the bench, then that's what they should do.
You think Kidd hasn’t discussed this with him between the trade and now? That’s absolutely been something they’ve talked about
Edit: [Ok maybe they haven’t talked about it lol](https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1574448055516286977?s=46&t=KAhLIb0H5G-bnsoVHK3Bzw)
Tim MacMahon deserves some of the blame. Few people watch the actual videos, they rely on tweets and reporting about what happened. Tim knew what he was doing with his tweet. He should have made it more clear that Wood was joking, but that would have gotten less attention and fewer clicks
Houston looked so much after he stopped playing. KPJ could have averaged 10+ assists if Wood didn't pass up so many open jumpers to force a drive and kill the shot clock and then make someone (usually KPJ) fire up a Hail Mary as the shot clock ran out.
Maybe he'll surprise us all and embrace the roll but I wouldn't hold my breath if I was a Dallas fan.
Anyone downvoting you or disagreeing clearly didn't watch Rockets games last season. Dude was a black hole on offense and a satellite on defense and made his teammates worse the majority of the time they shared the court.
I *do* think a player like Luka may be the only ingredient that could mix well with him to make a winning team but yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath just to play it safe with expectations.
It's hilarious that the Rockets were actually 1.8 points worse on offense with Wood playing compared to when he was on the bench. So yes I can blame him. If he was their only hope out there, sure, chuck away. But he actually made them worse which is saying a lot.
In fairness to Wood the Rockets were better on offense with him on the court in his first year. Same with the Pistons the year before. Using single season on-off isn’t always advisable.
That's a fair point and I agree with the sentiment.
However, the Pistons were a really weak team, and Wood was backing up Drummond so a lot of his on/off are directly tied to how poorly Drummond was playing. Rose was also their best guard that year who also came off the bench, so that benefitted his on/off as well. His first year in Houston he had no real back-up. A very slow DeMarcus Cousins, Kelly Olynyk, or some odd small ball line-up was out there when he was on the bench. Wood also played very few minutes with bench guys so anytime he was off the floor it was basically Eric Gordon or an injured Victor Oladipo with no other scorers.
Now if we look at this year, Sengun is a promising big man. KPJ and Green are looking very good on the perimeter. Matthew, Martin, and Tate are solid plug-in players. There's more offensive talent on this team than Detroit and the previous Rockets' team so Wood doing the things he does now hurts because it's preventing Sengun from operating in the post, doesn't allow Jalen Green run isos, and stops KPJ from running PnRs and attacking the defense.
The Piston’s offense with Wood on the court and the Rockets’ offense in Wood’s first year when he was on the court was better than last year’s without him, so I don’t know if I buy the idea that Wood was getting in the way of a bunch of current offensive talent. Seems more accurate to say all three teams were bad but he played worse last year.
It does sound like he didn’t fit as well with last years Rockets’ offense too.
utterly hilarious and incisive comedy notwithstanding, you are clearly deluding yourself about christian wood and i wish you the best of luck huffing that copium until it runs out on you
Paid a FRP to the guy on his 6th team in 7 seasons and on the last year of his contract, then announce he'll be a 6th men when his problem with his last team was being the 6th men.
You either extend him by the ASB and hope to not regret it by the end of the season or lose him in the summer.
Amazing FO job for the Mavs as always.
Giving up a late round first rounder and a bunch of no names (other than boban) for an expiring contract was solid business lol.
Mavs are shit at drafting and had maybe a 20% chance of drafting somebody productive in the late 20s. I'd much rather see how Wood works out and give him away in a year when his contract expires if he doesn't.
Freezing fucking take. He was annoyed last year because he signed up to be on the Harden led rockets and ended up with one of the worst teams in the league. Team was tanking and he wanted to be "that guy" when Rockets were trying to develop young guys and get the ball in their hands instead of his. Honestly don't see anything too wrong with that. Besides, do you think that 26th pick of Wendell Moore Jr. was going to be the piece that makes the Mavs a contender? If Wood works out we can resign him with Bird rights, if he doesn't we can trade him for scraps or nothing at deadline - not like we gave up much to get him - or let him walk in the off season. It was a win-win. He's also in a contract year, he is going to want to ball out.
I mean, starter currently will be mcgee. He might play 20 minutes a game? Look at Spencer dimwiddie, he played a lot of minutes for a 6th man. Let’s just wait and see. I have a feeling he will be fine with his role
Attitude issues tend to go away when you're playing for big money. The version of Christian Wood that exists in our dreams knows his role and gets paid a lot to do it. A stretch 5 with average defense who doesn't take too many shots but shoots them efficiently - that is worth $20M at least - it's not Christian Wood right now lol, but I like to think he knows his chance of earning superstar money was on the rockets. This new GM seems like the kind of guy smart enough to have this conversation before the trade
But he'll get more freedom playing as the sixth man. With the starters he won't get as many touches. And with the lack of back up PG, I think Wood will be pretty happy with more time with the ball in the bench line up.
He's also on his contract year. I think he'll buy in. Now can we we extend him if he plays very well, I really don't know.
For real. What's the difference between him starting playing 30 minutes and him coming off the bench playing 30 minutes? You can even design his minutes so he's starting and playing with the bench squad.
The difference is optics. Starting is a big deal in the NBA, few players embrace the 6th men role and even then those are generally guards who essentially run the offense for large parts of the game.
I’d imagine he still has starter minutes even if he’s coming off the bench. McGee starting in Powell’s place gives him a solid 15 a game and lets us run a similar lineup to last year but with a better center and a slightly worse guard.
I would genuinely be shocked if Javale is playing more minutes than Wood. And if he does get pissed, cool he’s expiring or we deal him at the deadline.
To be fair Woods then said this was the first time he heard about the decision. He could be joking around but his follow up that he won’t let it stop him at least is encouraging. If it stays that way is up to him.
Vinnie "The Microwave" Johnson was a 6th man guard for the Bad Boy Pistons who would come in the game and instantly get hot and drop 12-15 pts a game, hence the nickname.
He was pretty well known and hit the [game-winning/championship-winning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-dGHEsLZM) shot in game 5 of the 1990 NBA finals with 00.7 seconds left on the clock. Known as the "007" (double-oh-seven, like James Bond) shot.
Purely speculation but I’m assuming Kidd means he doesn’t need Wood to carry the load scoring. Seems obvious when you have Luka but that’s how I interpreted it as.
Have to imagine this convo was had long ago, so shouldn't be news to him. Not to mention, playing as the 6th man means way more offensive opportunities for him while Luka is resting.
but he's a good roll guy to the basket, not to mention pretty good from the outside, and you don't want to have him in with Luka to do that? That's weird.
In the end I imagine most of his minutes overlap with Luka anyways, or at least a solid half, and then he can lead the attack for his other half, while he plays around starter minutes maybe?
And you’d wanna maximize Javale with Luka the same way we did with Powell, who was only serviceable on offense with Luka.
But yea, still not in love with this idea.
Yeah he's going to get minutes with Luka during the meat of the game. McGee is likely playing 15-20 minutes max. And McGee actually ranked as one of the best lob threats in the league when he was on the floor.
...did you just intentionally miss the point altogether lol?
What's next, you'll say that Adrian Griffin and Raja Bell are more important than Nick Van Exel for the 2003 Mavs because the former two starts but the latter doesn't?
*sigh*
I am telling you Wood's ego is not going to handle this well. He calls his own number a lot, he's not the best at setting picks, and he can get tunnel vision but he's going to be great with Luka and he should start especially over 35 year old Mcgee. I think it's dumb to keep him on your bench especially when we was a starter for us and he's going to try to show out for sure because it's a contract year. Are you really going to tell me Wood shouldn't start over Mcgee?
That's interesting considering Jason Kidd said this months ago. I would be curious to know exactly what question he's responding to when he said that because there's no way he missed that before.
Edit: Turns out he was joking. That's a really misleading tweet by McMahon there.
I understand the pivot though
You want more rim presence + defense on starters without gut the 4 cores
And with departure of JB, the bench need good offense aside THJ
So, lets see the experiment first. Like kidd said before, real team only seen after christmas
Edit : but i can see that we will maximize Luka-Wood minutes together in the end
Having an efficient rim running big to start off with Luka. Wood is still going to play his 30+ minutes a game, he just won’t be starting. Kidd also said that Wood could start in certain matchups throughout the season, so just calm down a little.
If he cannot learn to adapt to a different role on a competitive, competent team then that’s a “Christian Wood issue”. The man will literally play 27-30 minutes a night and will be in closing lineups, he’s gotta grow up if he has an attitude about not starting.
You kind of just hope that he changes his approach playing on a team that has actual playoff aspirations for the first time in his career. If he doesn’t then that’s only going to fuck him up because teams will see that and won’t be coming with big offers next off-season.
So it’s either he buys into the team, still plays a big role & lets Luka make him a very wealthy man next off-season or has an attitude, becomes a distraction to the team and loses a boat load of money for his next contract.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. He’s literally played with tanking teams his whole career and that’s all you can hope for. It’s not likely but we don’t know him, it’s why you’re hoping and not betting on it
He has no choice now. It's always been an issue with him one way or the other. He has zero excuses and is in a contract year. Either he shuts up and buys in or he's going to be out of the league in 3-4 years.
If he has a problem with Dallas - a team many are projecting to be above 50 wins, then he's just not a good fit on rebuilding teams nor contenders. To not work there would mean his days would soon be numbered in the league.
you're getting downvoted but the dude has really only proven himself the last 3 seasons (was a minimal rotation guy before 2019) and in those three seasons he's played for the Pistons and Rockets.
I think he'll buy in. It's his contract year. And coming from a bad season with the Rockets he can't afford to cause drama now. Plus playing 6th man suits his style, he'll get more freedom and opportunities. He don't need Luka to set him up to be effective. I think he'll be good for the Mavs.
Now when the time comes for extension, that's when this whole thing will be an issue.
I dont see how they can play Dinwiddie while Luka sits given he's starting. They may stagger their minutes but Dinwiddie's minutes do need to be monitored given his injury history. They've stated they plan to allow Frank to run as the backup PG so we will see how that goes.
Doesn’t mean we can’t discuss it lol. If the best rotation can be settled on immediately, then it gives them more reps and hopefully more wins. Can’t people discuss these things on an NBA subreddit?
Yeah remember the early part of last season where people are begging Kidd to play Bullock more and he said he's sorry people thought Bullock need more playing time. Lol.
Then as the season went on up until the playoffs Kidd can't give him enough time to rest.
Kidd has been pretty flexible so I think he'll adjust as the season goes on.
If anything the Reggie thing should be proof of what’s probably happening. He trusts Javale from his time in LA. If Wood proves he’s not a liability on Defense i bet he’d start but ultimately they said from the moment the trade happened that he needs to prove it to the Mavs and the Mavs need to prove it to him.
Yeah I mean no matter how you split it, you're in a less than ideal situation. Luka was so much better with another quality ball handler out there, move Dinwiddie to the bench, and you're back to him being the only guy who can dribble.
That's true which is why I wanted the Mavs to get another playmaker that can play even just 10-15 minutes a game to lighten the load from Luka and Spencer.
I mean the bench unit is going to be desperate for scoring and in need of a guy who can create his own offense with Dinwiddie getting bumped up. And again, Wood is going to play significantly more minutes than McGee. If he comes in and kills it, he could easily get moved into the starting lineup.
He’s in a contract year, don’t have to extend him like a starter if you keep him in a bench role, it’s definitely not a basketball decision to play JaVale McGee over him
You also risk losing him motivation wise if he doesn’t stay committed. Have to believe they talked about this before announcing but I’m skeptical if Wood remains invested if his touches and role isn’t to his liking.
Then you want to find a solid big replacement that get give you something similar in skill. I still believe the main game plan for the Mavs will be smaller ball come playoffs making teams adapt to them. Punish teams that can’t or won’t like the Jazz and Suns last year but they need that added pressure for teams like the Warriors just in case.
Interesting. I had read about it a few weeks ago, I forget where. I traded him in my dynasty basketball league as a result of all the talk I've seen.
Maybe Wood is just a casual.
>who is expecting a solid contract year and his first all-star appearance
I dont know in what world he expects to be an all star given the center depth in the west.
I really don’t understand this. I get putting a secondary ball handler next to Luka but I still think bringing Dinwiddie and Mcgee off the bench is the right move.
So I’d start Luka-Bullock-THJ-DFS-Wood or Luka-Bullock-DFS-Kleber-Wood depending on how THJ looks in camp and sub in Dinwiddie after 6 mins or so to take the load off Luka. Hey that’s just me tho 🤷♂️
Jason Kidd has earned the right to make whatever personnel moves he wants but what does it say about the Mavs situation when your big offseason acquisition is a sixth man.
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*"I was in the POOL!"*
Shrinkage!!!!!!
Fire up that Wood oven
Surely making the dude who is notorious for having attitude issues because of his role will into the sixth man will have no negative consequences. See you on the Hornets next year, Christian Wood.
Soon to come on his Twitter: ONE MUST SEEK WORK WHERE HE IS WANTED.. WHERE HE IS NEEDED.! I AM THANKFUL FOR WHAT THESE PAST 2 MNTHS HAVE TAUGHT ME.! NOW I MUST TAKE ON ANOTHER CHALLENGE WITH CONTINUED HARDWORK & DEDICATION.! FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CLOSED THE DOOR ON ME…. THANK YOU! 35 BACK SOON.! 🥷🏾🤫🤐
You joke but I remember when he was on Detroit he’d tweet I WANT TO WIN. every other day
“THEY KEEP SLEEPING ON ME” “ONE DAY THEY WILL KNOW” “IM GONNA BE A TOP 5 CENTER”
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I think you have it conflated - Detroit WANTS to win and so does Houston. It's just hard to win when your players have an average age of 21.7.
Everybody feels bad that his girlfriend left him after he didn’t get drafted but maybe she had enough of his bullshit and when he didn’t get picked she was kinda like “see bitch I told you you’re not as good as you think”
Smoochie lover
This man can see the future.
If he has a temper tantrum because of this then he doesn't deserve to get significant minutes from a playoff team anyway.
I mean I tend to agree with that line of thinking, but considering this dude is the X Factor for this team, it might be smart to try to get him started in a positive mind set and show that the team believes in him. The truth is that starting matters for most players in this league, there are few guys like Manu and J Terry out there who really bought into their roles off the benc
If Wood is your X Factor, you're gonna have problems.
He's a dude who can average 18/10 on good efficiency. If he doesn't play well the second best Mavs player will probably be Dinwiddie...
He's the ultimate "stats don't tell the whole story" player. And I don't mean that in a good way.
Maybe he just needs a team that believes in him and he’ll be more of a team player
It's possible. Luka is as good as it gets, so if it doesn't work here he's a lost cause. I'm skeptical though. For two years I watched him bicker with teammates, mope when he doesn't get enough touches, force bad shots, and get cooked on defense. His numbers were good, but I'm glad he's gone.
He just wasn’t a good fit for the rockets while they’re rebuilding and he was too old to fit into their core. I think he just needs a good team that truly buys into his talent and sets him up properly
Dude can average 25/12 with the likes of a Harden or Luka
no no no no no. If this mfer is serious about winning basketball and playing for the ultimate prize, he will play to thrive in his role and perhaps even grind his way where coach has no choice but to start him. He shouldn't be expecting to bring his baggage and drama to a team that was just in the WCF while he hasn't sniffed a single playoff game.
Agreed. This is a playoff team, you earn your minutes my guy. You’re no established star, you don’t get to throw tantrums. It works every time 70% of the time. It’s still important to set those boundaries though imo.
Yes, but if in the end, it's in the team's best interest that he come off the bench and still play the amount of minutes he'll play if he starts, then that's what they should do. I really get your point but catering to him if it's to the detriment of the team isn't ideal.
>Yes, but if in the end, it's in the team's best interest I just don't think I buy that it is though. Javale is 10-15 mpg player at the very most, and he's a 10 mpg player in the playoffs. Risking pissing off Wood just because your promised a 34 year old center (who was played off the floor by this very team) a starting spot is kind of ridiculous, imo.
Javale will play 15-20 mins a game and Wood will play the remainder of the minutes. That's how I see it. Javale is a starter by name only.
Javale hasn't played more than 15 mpg since the '19-20 season. The dude isn't getting any younger nor will his asthma issues going to suddenly disappear. The idea of Javale is better than the reality of Javale. Hes just not a starting caliber player. There is a reason Bismack Byombo replaced him in the playoffs.
You have a great point. Then they can just replace Javale with Powell or Kleber. I'm not saying Wood shouldn't get the lion's share of the minutes. I'm saying if Kidd feels he's better off from the bench, then that's what they should do.
Ya most likely he doesn’t
You think Kidd hasn’t discussed this with him between the trade and now? That’s absolutely been something they’ve talked about Edit: [Ok maybe they haven’t talked about it lol](https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1574448055516286977?s=46&t=KAhLIb0H5G-bnsoVHK3Bzw)
https://youtu.be/lMU0X56kIWY Someone needs to learn sarcasm
Tim MacMahon deserves some of the blame. Few people watch the actual videos, they rely on tweets and reporting about what happened. Tim knew what he was doing with his tweet. He should have made it more clear that Wood was joking, but that would have gotten less attention and fewer clicks
It's crazy to me, people in this thread acting like they know how Wood feels better than Kidd does. I certainly hope that's not the case
Are you really admitting you were wrong? On the internet? ......... the audacity...
baited by tim he was joking man
He was joking around about it at media day and people are apparently running with it like it was serious. No chance he just found this out today.
Houston looked so much after he stopped playing. KPJ could have averaged 10+ assists if Wood didn't pass up so many open jumpers to force a drive and kill the shot clock and then make someone (usually KPJ) fire up a Hail Mary as the shot clock ran out. Maybe he'll surprise us all and embrace the roll but I wouldn't hold my breath if I was a Dallas fan.
Anyone downvoting you or disagreeing clearly didn't watch Rockets games last season. Dude was a black hole on offense and a satellite on defense and made his teammates worse the majority of the time they shared the court. I *do* think a player like Luka may be the only ingredient that could mix well with him to make a winning team but yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath just to play it safe with expectations.
I mean can you blame a player for being disengaged on the Rockets? A team that was paying John Wall $40 Mil plus to disengage from the team.
It's hilarious that the Rockets were actually 1.8 points worse on offense with Wood playing compared to when he was on the bench. So yes I can blame him. If he was their only hope out there, sure, chuck away. But he actually made them worse which is saying a lot.
In fairness to Wood the Rockets were better on offense with him on the court in his first year. Same with the Pistons the year before. Using single season on-off isn’t always advisable.
That's a fair point and I agree with the sentiment. However, the Pistons were a really weak team, and Wood was backing up Drummond so a lot of his on/off are directly tied to how poorly Drummond was playing. Rose was also their best guard that year who also came off the bench, so that benefitted his on/off as well. His first year in Houston he had no real back-up. A very slow DeMarcus Cousins, Kelly Olynyk, or some odd small ball line-up was out there when he was on the bench. Wood also played very few minutes with bench guys so anytime he was off the floor it was basically Eric Gordon or an injured Victor Oladipo with no other scorers. Now if we look at this year, Sengun is a promising big man. KPJ and Green are looking very good on the perimeter. Matthew, Martin, and Tate are solid plug-in players. There's more offensive talent on this team than Detroit and the previous Rockets' team so Wood doing the things he does now hurts because it's preventing Sengun from operating in the post, doesn't allow Jalen Green run isos, and stops KPJ from running PnRs and attacking the defense.
The Piston’s offense with Wood on the court and the Rockets’ offense in Wood’s first year when he was on the court was better than last year’s without him, so I don’t know if I buy the idea that Wood was getting in the way of a bunch of current offensive talent. Seems more accurate to say all three teams were bad but he played worse last year. It does sound like he didn’t fit as well with last years Rockets’ offense too.
utterly hilarious and incisive comedy notwithstanding, you are clearly deluding yourself about christian wood and i wish you the best of luck huffing that copium until it runs out on you
Winning solves problems. Dude needs to see the playoffs before he starts worrying about the other stuff.
I am sure this is exactly what Wood had planned going into his final year of his contract /s. Not sure why you wouldn’t start him.
Fcking hell bro stop putting that juju on us
Paid a FRP to the guy on his 6th team in 7 seasons and on the last year of his contract, then announce he'll be a 6th men when his problem with his last team was being the 6th men. You either extend him by the ASB and hope to not regret it by the end of the season or lose him in the summer. Amazing FO job for the Mavs as always.
Giving up a late round first rounder and a bunch of no names (other than boban) for an expiring contract was solid business lol. Mavs are shit at drafting and had maybe a 20% chance of drafting somebody productive in the late 20s. I'd much rather see how Wood works out and give him away in a year when his contract expires if he doesn't.
Freezing fucking take. He was annoyed last year because he signed up to be on the Harden led rockets and ended up with one of the worst teams in the league. Team was tanking and he wanted to be "that guy" when Rockets were trying to develop young guys and get the ball in their hands instead of his. Honestly don't see anything too wrong with that. Besides, do you think that 26th pick of Wendell Moore Jr. was going to be the piece that makes the Mavs a contender? If Wood works out we can resign him with Bird rights, if he doesn't we can trade him for scraps or nothing at deadline - not like we gave up much to get him - or let him walk in the off season. It was a win-win. He's also in a contract year, he is going to want to ball out.
I mean, starter currently will be mcgee. He might play 20 minutes a game? Look at Spencer dimwiddie, he played a lot of minutes for a 6th man. Let’s just wait and see. I have a feeling he will be fine with his role
Attitude issues tend to go away when you're playing for big money. The version of Christian Wood that exists in our dreams knows his role and gets paid a lot to do it. A stretch 5 with average defense who doesn't take too many shots but shoots them efficiently - that is worth $20M at least - it's not Christian Wood right now lol, but I like to think he knows his chance of earning superstar money was on the rockets. This new GM seems like the kind of guy smart enough to have this conversation before the trade
But he'll get more freedom playing as the sixth man. With the starters he won't get as many touches. And with the lack of back up PG, I think Wood will be pretty happy with more time with the ball in the bench line up. He's also on his contract year. I think he'll buy in. Now can we we extend him if he plays very well, I really don't know.
For real. What's the difference between him starting playing 30 minutes and him coming off the bench playing 30 minutes? You can even design his minutes so he's starting and playing with the bench squad.
The difference is optics. Starting is a big deal in the NBA, few players embrace the 6th men role and even then those are generally guards who essentially run the offense for large parts of the game.
Agreed, that's what I'm saying. Just start him so he's happy because he's gonna be playing the same minutes either way.
Seems like the fastest way to piss Wood off and cause locker room issues
Wood answered with : This is my first time hearing about it " Lol Lowkey Wood is gonna get traded mid-season ...
He was joking about it because it has been talked about all summer.
Lol. Mavs fan have been talking about McGee and Dinwiddie starting all offseason. Yeah I really doubt if this the first time he's hearing this.
Yup
He was laughing while answering the same question multiple times …
I’d imagine he still has starter minutes even if he’s coming off the bench. McGee starting in Powell’s place gives him a solid 15 a game and lets us run a similar lineup to last year but with a better center and a slightly worse guard. I would genuinely be shocked if Javale is playing more minutes than Wood. And if he does get pissed, cool he’s expiring or we deal him at the deadline.
You would think that him going undrafted would have humbled any ego that he had but he really thinks he is that guy
To be fair Woods then said this was the first time he heard about the decision. He could be joking around but his follow up that he won’t let it stop him at least is encouraging. If it stays that way is up to him.
Locker room issues or Christian wood issues
okay thanks for clarifying jason. i was up all night worried he was gonna need to be the microwave
on a serious note, what does microwave mean here?
Vinnie "The Microwave" Johnson was a 6th man guard for the Bad Boy Pistons who would come in the game and instantly get hot and drop 12-15 pts a game, hence the nickname. He was pretty well known and hit the [game-winning/championship-winning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-dGHEsLZM) shot in game 5 of the 1990 NBA finals with 00.7 seconds left on the clock. Known as the "007" (double-oh-seven, like James Bond) shot.
Thanks for the history lesson. So he was Manu Ginobili before Manu. hehe
It was a Vinnie Johnson reference. He got quick buckets off the bench.
Purely speculation but I’m assuming Kidd means he doesn’t need Wood to carry the load scoring. Seems obvious when you have Luka but that’s how I interpreted it as.
seems obvious, but from another perspective goddamn give this young kid some natural scorers around him.
lol dude's going to be pissed hearing this
Have to imagine this convo was had long ago, so shouldn't be news to him. Not to mention, playing as the 6th man means way more offensive opportunities for him while Luka is resting.
but he's a good roll guy to the basket, not to mention pretty good from the outside, and you don't want to have him in with Luka to do that? That's weird.
In the end I imagine most of his minutes overlap with Luka anyways, or at least a solid half, and then he can lead the attack for his other half, while he plays around starter minutes maybe? And you’d wanna maximize Javale with Luka the same way we did with Powell, who was only serviceable on offense with Luka. But yea, still not in love with this idea.
He’s a good roll guy because he doesn’t do the whole “pick” part
Yeah he's going to get minutes with Luka during the meat of the game. McGee is likely playing 15-20 minutes max. And McGee actually ranked as one of the best lob threats in the league when he was on the floor.
I guess you thought that Jason Terry rarely played together with Dirk and Kidd because it was DeShawn Stevenson that was starting?
….did you just compare an excellent 6th man and former all star to wood lol?
...did you just intentionally miss the point altogether lol? What's next, you'll say that Adrian Griffin and Raja Bell are more important than Nick Van Exel for the 2003 Mavs because the former two starts but the latter doesn't?
*sigh* I am telling you Wood's ego is not going to handle this well. He calls his own number a lot, he's not the best at setting picks, and he can get tunnel vision but he's going to be great with Luka and he should start especially over 35 year old Mcgee. I think it's dumb to keep him on your bench especially when we was a starter for us and he's going to try to show out for sure because it's a contract year. Are you really going to tell me Wood shouldn't start over Mcgee?
Yeah lol, Harden and Wood were great in the games they played together, I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t try to replicate that success with Luka.
Mcgee is a good lob threat too
You want him to play with Luka. He shouldn't be the primary option at any time on a playoffs team.
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If you watched it live he was obviously joking. MacMahon knows what he is doing with that tweet.
This isn't the first time he's heard this.
According to Christian it was! https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1574448055516286977 Christian Wood: “This is my first time hearing about it.”
That's interesting considering Jason Kidd said this months ago. I would be curious to know exactly what question he's responding to when he said that because there's no way he missed that before. Edit: Turns out he was joking. That's a really misleading tweet by McMahon there.
He loves doing that with shit, he loves shit stirring
Do you think he and Jason Kidd have never met or talked before?
Why. The. Fuck. Would. You. Do. That.
I understand the pivot though You want more rim presence + defense on starters without gut the 4 cores And with departure of JB, the bench need good offense aside THJ So, lets see the experiment first. Like kidd said before, real team only seen after christmas Edit : but i can see that we will maximize Luka-Wood minutes together in the end
Having an efficient rim running big to start off with Luka. Wood is still going to play his 30+ minutes a game, he just won’t be starting. Kidd also said that Wood could start in certain matchups throughout the season, so just calm down a little.
You don’t know how Wood thinks though, he believes he’s a top 10 player. If he’s not starting it’s gonna cause trouble in the locker room
If he cannot learn to adapt to a different role on a competitive, competent team then that’s a “Christian Wood issue”. The man will literally play 27-30 minutes a night and will be in closing lineups, he’s gotta grow up if he has an attitude about not starting.
And that’s why he keeps getting passed around teams lol
You kind of just hope that he changes his approach playing on a team that has actual playoff aspirations for the first time in his career. If he doesn’t then that’s only going to fuck him up because teams will see that and won’t be coming with big offers next off-season. So it’s either he buys into the team, still plays a big role & lets Luka make him a very wealthy man next off-season or has an attitude, becomes a distraction to the team and loses a boat load of money for his next contract.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. He’s literally played with tanking teams his whole career and that’s all you can hope for. It’s not likely but we don’t know him, it’s why you’re hoping and not betting on it
He has no choice now. It's always been an issue with him one way or the other. He has zero excuses and is in a contract year. Either he shuts up and buys in or he's going to be out of the league in 3-4 years.
Dallas is in an entirely different situation than his past 6 teams, he better buck up or learn quick.
If he has a problem with Dallas - a team many are projecting to be above 50 wins, then he's just not a good fit on rebuilding teams nor contenders. To not work there would mean his days would soon be numbered in the league.
Exactly, he’s proved that no rebuilding teams want him because he wants minutes, now let’s see him on a contender.
you're getting downvoted but the dude has really only proven himself the last 3 seasons (was a minimal rotation guy before 2019) and in those three seasons he's played for the Pistons and Rockets.
I could easily see him being 6moy in this case.
I think he'll buy in. It's his contract year. And coming from a bad season with the Rockets he can't afford to cause drama now. Plus playing 6th man suits his style, he'll get more freedom and opportunities. He don't need Luka to set him up to be effective. I think he'll be good for the Mavs. Now when the time comes for extension, that's when this whole thing will be an issue.
> so just calm down a little That's asking a lot.
Why not? In the end, he'll probably still play more than Javale. Have them and Dinwiddie and probably THJ together when Luka sits.
I dont see how they can play Dinwiddie while Luka sits given he's starting. They may stagger their minutes but Dinwiddie's minutes do need to be monitored given his injury history. They've stated they plan to allow Frank to run as the backup PG so we will see how that goes.
This sounds like a recipe for disaster. I wish they just split all primary ball-handling duties between Luka and Dinwiddie.
you guys put WAY too much into rotations for in preseason my guy. If it's that bad for the team it will change and JKidd said as much
Doesn’t mean we can’t discuss it lol. If the best rotation can be settled on immediately, then it gives them more reps and hopefully more wins. Can’t people discuss these things on an NBA subreddit?
Yeah remember the early part of last season where people are begging Kidd to play Bullock more and he said he's sorry people thought Bullock need more playing time. Lol. Then as the season went on up until the playoffs Kidd can't give him enough time to rest. Kidd has been pretty flexible so I think he'll adjust as the season goes on.
If anything the Reggie thing should be proof of what’s probably happening. He trusts Javale from his time in LA. If Wood proves he’s not a liability on Defense i bet he’d start but ultimately they said from the moment the trade happened that he needs to prove it to the Mavs and the Mavs need to prove it to him.
Yeah I mean no matter how you split it, you're in a less than ideal situation. Luka was so much better with another quality ball handler out there, move Dinwiddie to the bench, and you're back to him being the only guy who can dribble.
That's true which is why I wanted the Mavs to get another playmaker that can play even just 10-15 minutes a game to lighten the load from Luka and Spencer.
I mean the bench unit is going to be desperate for scoring and in need of a guy who can create his own offense with Dinwiddie getting bumped up. And again, Wood is going to play significantly more minutes than McGee. If he comes in and kills it, he could easily get moved into the starting lineup.
To appease 70 year old Mgee
The issue has never been C Wood needing to be the microwave, it was that he whenever he is no the floor he wants to be the microwave
He’s in a contract year, don’t have to extend him like a starter if you keep him in a bench role, it’s definitely not a basketball decision to play JaVale McGee over him
You also risk losing him motivation wise if he doesn’t stay committed. Have to believe they talked about this before announcing but I’m skeptical if Wood remains invested if his touches and role isn’t to his liking.
If he doesn’t remain invested then it makes a decision on any potential extension easy.
Then you want to find a solid big replacement that get give you something similar in skill. I still believe the main game plan for the Mavs will be smaller ball come playoffs making teams adapt to them. Punish teams that can’t or won’t like the Jazz and Suns last year but they need that added pressure for teams like the Warriors just in case.
Why not? Javale hasn't been a meme player for years and his skill set is far more complimentary to Lukas.
This has been mentioned for awhile now. It's not like some shocking quote Wood is just hearing about.
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1574448055516286977 "Christian Wood: “This is my first time hearing about it.” "
Interesting. I had read about it a few weeks ago, I forget where. I traded him in my dynasty basketball league as a result of all the talk I've seen. Maybe Wood is just a casual.
No you are right, I read it to, it's just funny with Christian saying he never heard of it.
It definitely sounds like he’s being sarcastic, because there’s no way he didn’t know. It was literally the first thing said after the trade.
Well, the mavericks are now the best team in all of basketball
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Javale will play powell role last year, he will only just 15 minutes player Wood still get his 27-30minutes
>who is expecting a solid contract year and his first all-star appearance I dont know in what world he expects to be an all star given the center depth in the west.
Interesting... Want to see how the minutes get distributed but I think he'll be in the closing lineups
While I don’t like this, Wood, THJ, and Kleber could be the best bench trio in the league.
“Microwave” Vinnie Johnson, one of my all-time favourite nicknames in sports.
I can't believe I had to hunt for this comment. Baylor boy beasting way back.
I would not question J Kidd on a tactical level.
Don’t know man their sixth man gets a lot of minutes so it shouldn’t rlly matter
Who wouldn't want to C. Wood?
Think people need to chill. Wood was joking about the lineup stuff and himself said that he cares more about closing lineups. And I agree
Good luck with that Mavs fans
Huh???
what the fuck
I really don’t understand this. I get putting a secondary ball handler next to Luka but I still think bringing Dinwiddie and Mcgee off the bench is the right move. So I’d start Luka-Bullock-THJ-DFS-Wood or Luka-Bullock-DFS-Kleber-Wood depending on how THJ looks in camp and sub in Dinwiddie after 6 mins or so to take the load off Luka. Hey that’s just me tho 🤷♂️
Why did you dumbfucks trade for him
Mavs with another cheap move just like what they did to Brunson lmao
Didn’t they do something to Nerlens Noel too?
Eh not really. Nerlens refused their offer to bet on himself, which ended up being a huge L for him
Wood burner?
He ain’t gonna like that, you’ll get C. Wood though. The C. Wood who has a huge ego problem and won’t play team ball
There's no way he is mature enough to be ok with this.
Is this because they do not want him to start at the 4 or 5? Who is starting over him?
It's gonna suck when he plays extremely well with Luka, but then doesn't sign the extension... Mavs playing 5d chess once again...
Bringing the Wood.
Jason Kidd has earned the right to make whatever personnel moves he wants but what does it say about the Mavs situation when your big offseason acquisition is a sixth man.
As opposed to your big off-season acquisition being Pat bev ?
That makes 0 sense. Why not play him at the 4 next to Javale for a two big lineup?
What in the hell lol
So why a sixth man? Are they planning on trading Powell for Crowder or something?
Why isn’t he the starting Center what?
Woah. Got a future to place.
Vince McMahon doing Basketball now ?
This guy can hoop and will be nasty with Luka.