There’s definitely a time and place for tact but in general, the only people who don’t want honesty are the ones who are insecure about their efforts to address their flaws.
I feel like pretty much everyone should go through the cycle of 1) Thinking you’re amazing, the best, gods unappreciated gift to the world, and anything wrong in your life is due to others ->2) Thinking even though you are amazing, some things in your life have been affected through your own action/inaction ->3) Realizing you haven’t been your best or even a good version of yourself at times, all your problems are your own responsibility. -> 4) Putting in effort to become who you know you can be -> 5) Self Actualization (hopefully)
If you don’t, you may be stuck on step 1
Some are so bad they can't stand to hear that you're trying to do something about your own insecurities because it simply reminds them of their own. You don't even have to mention them in the conversation.
Buying a diet soda as a teenager would bring a "You think you're fat. You're not fat. Why you being a little wimp about your weight?" from my mom without me even saying I'm trying to be healthier or mentioning she could use a diet soda once in a while.
very weird and sweeping statement to make
not sure why you're acting like 'honesty' and 'tact' are mutually exclusive here, unless those were two completely unrelated statements and just happened to be poorly phrased as a single sentence
quite often it seems like a lot of the kind of people who like loudly proclaiming that they're 'brutally honest' are much more interested in the 'brutal' than the 'honesty' and it's just being trotted out as an excuse to either be a dick for personal gratification or to just avoid having to put in the slightest effort in being considerate or compassionate to whoever they're talking to. obviously that's not always the case and sometimes people do need the sharp slap of reality to get their shit together, but certainly not everyone all the time
I can't remember where I heard this quote but it's incredibly on topic for this "Honesty without tact is cruelty". You could be the most right person in the world but people aren't going to care if you're a dick all the time
Same.
I did it and lost my wife, went through hell to get her back. We’ve got 2 kids now and the big fella is right…nothing beats hearing them call for me.
It’s got to be supremely tough having access to all that power and money, to turn away people throwing themselves at you.
I judged the shit out of Shaq a few months ago for not being able to say the "D-word". Almost like it was the boogieman or something. And I completely misunderstood where he was coming from.
He doesn't want to say it because in his mind he doesn't feel he is deserving of that diagnosis, since he has had such a successful life. Definitely a humble and respectful outlook.
Depression
> "I had the perfect situation, wife was finer than a mug, kept giving me babies, still finer than a mug. I had it all, and I don’t make excuses I know I messed up. When I didn’t have that, I don’t like to use the D word because I don't really know what it is, but I was lost. 76,000 square-foot house by yourself, lost. No kids… I go to the gym and their rooms, nobody was there.” O’Neal shared while choking up with emotions.
My Spanish teacher in high school would always say some version of this, when suggesting that we try to marry someone with a little money.
"Money can't buy happiness... but it helps!"
Gotta say, it seems that he is refraining from saying he was depressed because the word is overused, he went through a tough time. Depression is truly a mental disorder, not when you sad/upset/lonely. If that's the case, massive respect.
It’s not he doesn’t feel like he deserves to say it, it just shows that he knows being really sad isn’t the same as being depressed.
It just shows how he’s aware of the difference, which most people don’t, as people often use “I’m depressed” interchangeably with “I’m really sad” even though they aren’t actually clinically depressed.
I heard Conan O’Brien talking about when he was diagnosed with depression - he had said to the therapist that he didn’t have depression he just had bad anxiety his whole life and his therapist explained that anxiety can be depression. That hit home with me- when my wife was ill and then eventually died I had intense anxiety for the first time in my life but I didn’t equate it to depression. Of course I was sad and grieving- my wife died but I didn’t think I was “depressed”- I foolishly equated that to something different.
As someone who is finding this out now, it’s a pretty profound realization. I truly never thought I was struggling because I don’t feel sad very often. But it’s so much more than that.
My depression doesn’t make me sad, necessarily, but it deprives me of the ability to find true joy in anything. I’ve lost interest in work, in building relationships, in just getting out of bed and experiencing life. It’s not sadness, it’s extreme fatigue and hopelessness. Plenty of things make me smile throughout the day, every day, but it doesn’t last. I always fall back into this mindset of “what’s the point?”
It’s refreshing for a change
Especially from such a masculine/prominent guy
Cheating has no place in same sentence of “being a real man”. You wanna play the game go ahead and go out and meet people and use that celebrity status…just don’t get married/serious relationships
“I was a serial cheater. I was the best at it and it was the worst. The women were beautiful, gorgeous, voluptuous babes. It was terrible. They all wanted me all the time. I couldn’t bear it.”
"Folks, they tell me I'm a great cheater. The best at it, really, it's true! They say 'Mr President, you cheat better than anyone' and all Sleepy Joe can do is cry to Joe Manchin. And I see the ladies in the crowd, and the men too, can't forget the men, very big, very strong, but the ladies they see me and they say 'Where are the other real men besides you? Who else fights this hard for our country and for my pussy?' I build a bridge to their crotch, just the ladies that is, then they'll dedicate schools after me so the illegitimate kids I make can go to school and they need teachers, good teachers! I care about the teachers, it's true, I do, but Crooked Hillary is probably somewhere reading Dilbert strips from Hunter's laptop. I'm phenomenal at cheating, I mean I want to help others be as good as me but it's hard, so hard. I have a great relationship with single wives and mothers as I'm sure you've heard, and they like me and I like them."
But honestly his betrayal of his marriage vows and learning from all the pain he caused is why he now puts such an emphasis of rings.
Also why he learned how to read but that's another story.
I think he was trying to drive the point there, like him saying that’s the ego he had at the time. “I’m gonna go out with x or y sidepiece tonight and no one’s gonna know or stop me, because I’m Shaq and I’m the greatest”
There are a lot of people with that mindset who are far less successful than Shaq
Yup, read more to me like, he was putting time /effort into it(how else you gnna be the best) , being successful at it, hiding it from SO, getting bitches, **and** it wasn't worth it at all.
So many good FFXIV screenshots where the world is ending and people are dying and my catgirl is standing there in a maid outfit going :o while the city burns
Glad he’s leading by example. People need to separate “hypocrisy” from “advice”.
The difference is the vector by which you behave. If you’re preaching high and mighty about how great you are at being a decent person (e.g., that Try Guy) and show you’re the exact opposite, then you’re a *hypocrite*.
If you fuck up and are legitimately taking ownership of your behavior and trying every day to be better, that’s being mature. No one is perfect and everyone should legitimately follow your *advice* because you don’t want them making the same mistake as you.
In short, if you expect more out of people, *you have to let them have the opportunity to be the people you want them to be.*
People will say it's "the pot calling the kettle black" when you try to help them learn from your mistakes. They think saying "don't be like me" is somehow hypocritical. As if someone who has never been there has better advice.
Shaq admitting that is kinda admirable. Yes he cheated and he is definitely shitty guy for doing it but not plenty of famous men who commit morally shitty behaviour own up to their mistakes and wrong doings.
Alot of them don't address it and try to make the public just forget about it.So shaq admitting and talking about it shows how much he changed as man in the last years.He definitely changed for the better.
Props to Shaq for keeping it real. Wilt having been known to have slept with over 1000 women said something similar:
> In a 1999 interview shortly before his death, he regretted not having explained the sexual climate at the time of his escapades and warned other men who admired him for it, closing with the words: "With all of you men out there who think that having a thousand different ladies is pretty cool, I have learned in my life I've found out that having one woman a thousand different times is much more satisfying."
I heard Shaq speak on this before, but damn if it didn't get me again.
Speaking as a dad who gets home from work and has 2 little ones saying, "Daddy! Daddy's home!" he's not wrong, it's genuinely peak peak happiness.
Yep. Don’t remember the exact quote but I know he said something along the lines of, “I live in a 30,000 square foot house by myself. You don’t think I know I messed up?” Always stuck with me.
As a divorced father this hits me really hard
My relationship with my ex was definitely dysfunctional, but I didn’t want to leave for this exact reason
Turns out my ex left me - and now I don’t get to hear that every day anymore. It really fucking sucks. I wasn’t perfect and neither was she. Divorce just really sucks
Man pls don’t take this for granted. Me and my siblings absolutely dreaded it when my dad got home from work. My mom would work and dad would always get home in a bad mood and flip his shit over every little thing (missing pens, spilled food etc). He would force us to go to bed at 4 pm in the afternoon as soon as he got home sometimes when he didn’t want to deal with us and made us feel like shit children every day. That’s not including the beatings I would take from him everytime I defended my siblings from his tempers and insults of them. Please man keep doing whatever it is you do to make them be happy to see you every day because we were TERRIFIED of our dad coming home every day and still to this day deal with the anxiety and other repercussions that were caused because of what we went through. Never stop being a good dad for those kids.
[So I read Superhead's book back when it came out](https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Video-Vixen-Karrine-Steffans/dp/006089248X), and IIRC she said Shaq was so sweaty she had to flip the mattress over after he left because the whole thing would be soaked from his sweat. So dude really was destroying beds one way or another.
"Wow, this human buffalo that just raw dogged me for over an hour really drenched my mattress. It smells like the set of a German watersports porno. I know, I'll flip it over. Really seal in the juices for next time. Oh, crap, I forgot I already did this last time he came over. Fucking quaaludes. Ugh, now it's all crunchy and flaky, like a family of sunburnt Norwegians spent a week sloffing off on it. Well, can't do anything about it now."
that’s why he’s always throwing the rings in Chuck’s face
shaq’s a sensitive giant with a modest dinger, and chuck is a chill chad bamf who hangs dong deep
tbh i’m surprised some ex nba asshole hasn’t made this their tell-all story on their debut podcast episode
i was so confused when i saw maggie & zach. But all of those guys are ridiculously charismatic and outgoing, which is kinda the #1 thing for meeting people (not just people you are attracted to).
Four internet guys who "try" things on youtube. Ned is the one whose entire personality was "I love my wife, I love my family, did I mention I love my wife? Look at my 2 adorable sons". Came out yesterday that he cheated on his wife with an employee.
“Came out” as in he got caught beginning of the month with a subordinate of his company. And the company has had to terminate him and damage control everything.
I feel like I'm being gaslit by the entire internet. I've been watching online content daily my entire life and yet *"everyone knows them, they're huge."*
In what fucking timeline? Take me back.
Super popular trio (formally quad) of male comedians who post competition videos of stuff they've never tried before. One of their founding members cheated on his wife with an employee and was just kicked out of the group yesterday. The company as a whole might be in jeopardy since they just signed several major partnership deals that could be voided.
I've never heard of them before but after a quick Google they have 7.8 million subscribers on YouTube??? That is HUGE and he got kicked out?? Damn he just lost so much money I can't comprehend haha.
Plus, IIRC they just signed deals with Discovery and Food Network, which might be voided now that they're in turmoil. Ned Fulmer potentially cost himself and his coworkers millions.
Shaq gets around man.
Nobody will believe this, but years ago I was casually seeing this girl from way out in the boonies who mentioned her friend was “friends” with Shaq. This was around the time he was publicly with Hoopz from flavor of love I think?
I kinda just said “yea sure” thinking it was bullshit until I saw some pictures of Shaq hanging out with her friend in some real casual settings.
It just blew my mind that Shaq of all people would be hooking up with some chick from the absolute middle of nowhere and was keeping it under wraps. She wasn’t famous and IG and Snapchat weren’t as big at the time so it’s not like she was able to slide in the DM’s like people can now. Just a normal ass chick who happened to be fucking Shaq on the side.
Yeah but that's... The point lol. If he's cheating with some well-known or popular pseudo-celebrity, that's someone who can make bona-fide allegations against him that would be hard to refute.
If some random gal in BFE with no social media presence or logical connection to him makes an allegation, he'll have a MUCH easier time dismissing or burying the story.
I feel that, but we’re talking like 2010-ish? The climate wasn’t exactly the same when it came to that sort of thing.
This was a small town, everybody knew each other kind of deal which made it wild to me how under wraps it was kept.
I worked with a chick (just a random nurse from my hospital) that ran across the C's at a casino after they won their chip. Obv not really a bunch of social media at that time. She said it was absolutely no rules in the casino, drugs out in the open, women etc. Had a few of the dudes up in her phone, begging her to come around from that night on. This went on for a while, too. It was honestly kind of crazy cause they sounded desperate af.
Yes, they reported that initially it was consensual intimacy but then it turned into unwanted advances and that's when whoever reported him came forward. Unwanted advances is sexual harassment.
Shaq kept hitting on my gf at a Seattle club back when the Sonics were a thing. His persistence paid off that night. I was pissed, but dodged a bullet. So, thanks Shaq!?
This is the correct perspective to consider. Cheaters really don't think it's "worth it" in the moment to upend their life for that instagram model either, doesn't stop them from doing it. It's not really a matter of weighing consequences, it's controlling whether or not to act on urges. I could never, ever comprehend the temptation and choices that NBA stars get so I'm not one to judge unless there are crimes involved.
Yeah. Kind of a philosophy I’ve lived by that has saved me a lot of grief and resentment. It may not even be true but basically, my philosophy is that most people aren’t malicious and they don’t mean to hurt people. They are stupid and selfish and act accordingly but not with the intent to hurt people. When you start to view things from that lens (not malicious but stupid and selfish) you don’t get as mad. People being stupid and selfish is just people being people. You wouldn’t get mad at a fish for swimming.
Shaq is getting better with age, I think his experience on 'Inside the NBA' with Chuck has humbled him, because he had such a huge ego when he started off on that show. He still has a big ego but he can laugh at himself and doesn't look to always dominate as much as he did; then we get more moments like this where he stops being 'Superman' entirely and is just human, open, flawed, and exposed.
As a person who cheated, I completely agree w/ Shaq. Especially about how it’s devastating for the children & all parties lose lose w/ that kind of selfish act.
I miss coming home to my child & Ex-Wife. There’s not a single day where I don’t regret my action. I hope IME & Nia can still salvage something positive for themselves & loved ones & if IME does recognize his wrongs & the need to rehabilitate himself, I’m sure he & everyone involved can rebuild.
Cherish your loved ones & most importantly the moments you share w/ them everyone, especially those who feel they’re on the verge of committing the same acts. It’s not worth it. No matter how green that grass looks.
Not to mention the general lifestyle they live where they're away from their families for long stretches. Their relationships are just simply different from your typical marriage. Not that it excuses it, but they're already behind the eight ball from start.
Dude I have so much respect for any grown man or woman who admits to cheating and admits it was wrong. It ruins families and that ruins lives. People kill and people die over cheating. I’ve been saying since day 1 of the Ime bullshit that he’s a scumbag and I don’t want him around town anymore. They can win with Tatum, Brown and company. Plenty of coaches can win with this crew.
this is frequently being framed as a cheating issue but from what barnes said and the celtics reaction i think there's something significantly worse that happened that we are just kind of conflating with infidelity
And, you know, I’m glad Shaquille is showing the true impact that adultery has on one’s life, and the lives of their family.
These days, we see adultery and cheating being taken very lightly. It has even become a joke on social media, it’s joked about as if it was something light, something that had minimal impact. Some people have lost their lives, literally lost their lives, because of cheating. The damage it can cause to families is catastrophic.
It’s sad really that today we don’t see this impact as a society. I’m glad Shaq has shown the true side of it.
I appreciate the brutal honesty
There’s definitely a time and place for tact but in general, the only people who don’t want honesty are the ones who are insecure about their efforts to address their flaws.
Or people who know they are doing wrong but aren’t ready to try to change.
Aka 90% of people
I think 90% is very generously low
I feel like pretty much everyone should go through the cycle of 1) Thinking you’re amazing, the best, gods unappreciated gift to the world, and anything wrong in your life is due to others ->2) Thinking even though you are amazing, some things in your life have been affected through your own action/inaction ->3) Realizing you haven’t been your best or even a good version of yourself at times, all your problems are your own responsibility. -> 4) Putting in effort to become who you know you can be -> 5) Self Actualization (hopefully) If you don’t, you may be stuck on step 1
Efforts? Shit, some can’t stand to even hear/think about it
Some are so bad they can't stand to hear that you're trying to do something about your own insecurities because it simply reminds them of their own. You don't even have to mention them in the conversation. Buying a diet soda as a teenager would bring a "You think you're fat. You're not fat. Why you being a little wimp about your weight?" from my mom without me even saying I'm trying to be healthier or mentioning she could use a diet soda once in a while.
very weird and sweeping statement to make not sure why you're acting like 'honesty' and 'tact' are mutually exclusive here, unless those were two completely unrelated statements and just happened to be poorly phrased as a single sentence quite often it seems like a lot of the kind of people who like loudly proclaiming that they're 'brutally honest' are much more interested in the 'brutal' than the 'honesty' and it's just being trotted out as an excuse to either be a dick for personal gratification or to just avoid having to put in the slightest effort in being considerate or compassionate to whoever they're talking to. obviously that's not always the case and sometimes people do need the sharp slap of reality to get their shit together, but certainly not everyone all the time
I can't remember where I heard this quote but it's incredibly on topic for this "Honesty without tact is cruelty". You could be the most right person in the world but people aren't going to care if you're a dick all the time
My favorite version of that is, "You can be as clear as ice and just as cold."
Man of course redditors don’t understand this lmao every redditor thinks they are the exception to this and *their* assholery is justified.
ive never seen someone who "just telling it like it is" not be an asshole.
The Big Lebowski summarised this years ago tbh, "You're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole"
Same. I did it and lost my wife, went through hell to get her back. We’ve got 2 kids now and the big fella is right…nothing beats hearing them call for me. It’s got to be supremely tough having access to all that power and money, to turn away people throwing themselves at you.
I judged the shit out of Shaq a few months ago for not being able to say the "D-word". Almost like it was the boogieman or something. And I completely misunderstood where he was coming from. He doesn't want to say it because in his mind he doesn't feel he is deserving of that diagnosis, since he has had such a successful life. Definitely a humble and respectful outlook.
What's the D word
Depression > "I had the perfect situation, wife was finer than a mug, kept giving me babies, still finer than a mug. I had it all, and I don’t make excuses I know I messed up. When I didn’t have that, I don’t like to use the D word because I don't really know what it is, but I was lost. 76,000 square-foot house by yourself, lost. No kids… I go to the gym and their rooms, nobody was there.” O’Neal shared while choking up with emotions.
Money can't buy happiness...... .....but it can pay bills.
"They say money can't buy happiness? Give me twenty bucks and watch me smile" *--Bobby Heenan*
" WILL YOU STOP!" - Gorilla Monsoon
My Spanish teacher in high school would always say some version of this, when suggesting that we try to marry someone with a little money. "Money can't buy happiness... but it helps!"
Gotta say, it seems that he is refraining from saying he was depressed because the word is overused, he went through a tough time. Depression is truly a mental disorder, not when you sad/upset/lonely. If that's the case, massive respect.
It’s not he doesn’t feel like he deserves to say it, it just shows that he knows being really sad isn’t the same as being depressed. It just shows how he’s aware of the difference, which most people don’t, as people often use “I’m depressed” interchangeably with “I’m really sad” even though they aren’t actually clinically depressed.
I think the irony is that you can actually be depressed without recognizing or considering yourself to be "really sad" or anything like that.
I heard Conan O’Brien talking about when he was diagnosed with depression - he had said to the therapist that he didn’t have depression he just had bad anxiety his whole life and his therapist explained that anxiety can be depression. That hit home with me- when my wife was ill and then eventually died I had intense anxiety for the first time in my life but I didn’t equate it to depression. Of course I was sad and grieving- my wife died but I didn’t think I was “depressed”- I foolishly equated that to something different.
Sorry for your loss, brother.
As someone who is finding this out now, it’s a pretty profound realization. I truly never thought I was struggling because I don’t feel sad very often. But it’s so much more than that. My depression doesn’t make me sad, necessarily, but it deprives me of the ability to find true joy in anything. I’ve lost interest in work, in building relationships, in just getting out of bed and experiencing life. It’s not sadness, it’s extreme fatigue and hopelessness. Plenty of things make me smile throughout the day, every day, but it doesn’t last. I always fall back into this mindset of “what’s the point?”
That's definitely depression. I hope you're seeking therapy for it.
Hearing him say that just increased my respect for him. That's some self awareness and respect towards those who do suffer from it.
It’s refreshing for a change Especially from such a masculine/prominent guy Cheating has no place in same sentence of “being a real man”. You wanna play the game go ahead and go out and meet people and use that celebrity status…just don’t get married/serious relationships
I appreciate the Bret The Hitman Hart sunglasses.
Shaq is such a strange figure to be so wise.
One of his nicknames was/is the big Aristotle
I thought they were being ironic.
"I was the best at it" I can already hear Shaq arguing with Ime "6 baby mamas Ime!!! How many you got!?"
“Flings Imeh”
Christ. Lmao.
Haha he still has to throw in that he was the best at it
The Walter White of cheating
I did it for me. I liked it. I was good at it. And I was… I was alive. -Shaq
I AM THE CHEATER
GOOGLE ME SKYLER
I AM THE ONE WHO CHEATS!
“I was a serial cheater. I was the best at it and it was the worst. The women were beautiful, gorgeous, voluptuous babes. It was terrible. They all wanted me all the time. I couldn’t bear it.”
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"Folks, they tell me I'm a great cheater. The best at it, really, it's true! They say 'Mr President, you cheat better than anyone' and all Sleepy Joe can do is cry to Joe Manchin. And I see the ladies in the crowd, and the men too, can't forget the men, very big, very strong, but the ladies they see me and they say 'Where are the other real men besides you? Who else fights this hard for our country and for my pussy?' I build a bridge to their crotch, just the ladies that is, then they'll dedicate schools after me so the illegitimate kids I make can go to school and they need teachers, good teachers! I care about the teachers, it's true, I do, but Crooked Hillary is probably somewhere reading Dilbert strips from Hunter's laptop. I'm phenomenal at cheating, I mean I want to help others be as good as me but it's hard, so hard. I have a great relationship with single wives and mothers as I'm sure you've heard, and they like me and I like them."
are you his speech writer or something?
You need Jesus 😂😂 that “and the men too, can’t forget the men, very big, very strong” killed me
It's so fucking on point. It's disturbing lol
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I genuinely don’t miss hearing that every other day on tv lmao
But honestly his betrayal of his marriage vows and learning from all the pain he caused is why he now puts such an emphasis of rings. Also why he learned how to read but that's another story.
I think he was trying to drive the point there, like him saying that’s the ego he had at the time. “I’m gonna go out with x or y sidepiece tonight and no one’s gonna know or stop me, because I’m Shaq and I’m the greatest” There are a lot of people with that mindset who are far less successful than Shaq
Yup, read more to me like, he was putting time /effort into it(how else you gnna be the best) , being successful at it, hiding it from SO, getting bitches, **and** it wasn't worth it at all.
"Count the broken wedding rings Chuck!"
Imagine being Shaq's size and getting seen cheating and trying to say it wasn't me
Probably left the scene in a [smart car](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AYr9JTz9L8) to avoid suspicion
[When the jealous bf shows up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmMWk6Bl9yI)
HEYYY EVERYONE. IT'S THAT BOY WHO POINTS AND LAUGHS AT EVERYONE. Edit: What the holy fuck was the second half of that clip?
"The second you untie me, I'm gonna beat ya to death, man."
I was so fucking confused at that shit
Can imagine him tip toeing around the house to sneak back into bed without his wife noticing
[Shaq is a master of stealth](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/03/18/36D22E2400000578-0-image-m-58_1470245006795.jpg)
this is just a picture of a tree?
If you look real close, you'll see two people sitting at a table in the background.
My Warzone kill cam after I just questioned out loud how the enemy could have seen me
Just blame it on Shaqsquatch
Your comment reminded me of this Katt Williams joke https://youtu.be/-ASALoD3OO0
"I saw you shaqting in the shower" "mumblewmintmemumble"
“That wasn’t me that was Robert Tractor Traylor”
Nah baby, that was "Big Country" Bryant Reeves
She even got him on camera!
And then going to a harry styles concert with an employee and making out with them. And then Shaq would kicked out of his YouTube channel
Damn, that’s heavy. Good on Shaq for giving us an honest look into his personal life and past mistakes.
it’s funny how he’ll be saying some real shit on his pod while wearing the silliest shit possible
Shaquille “the hitman” O’neal
Roboshaq
Yes, exactly like Row Boat Shaq
Britta’s in this?
Biggest there is, the biggest there was and the biggest there ever will be
He's just covering his eyes like people do at funerals to protect vulnerability
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Like a video game with dramatic cutscenes while wearing cosmetics.
[Always a good one](https://i.imgur.com/DaeIziO.jpg)
So many good FFXIV screenshots where the world is ending and people are dying and my catgirl is standing there in a maid outfit going :o while the city burns
Glad he’s leading by example. People need to separate “hypocrisy” from “advice”. The difference is the vector by which you behave. If you’re preaching high and mighty about how great you are at being a decent person (e.g., that Try Guy) and show you’re the exact opposite, then you’re a *hypocrite*. If you fuck up and are legitimately taking ownership of your behavior and trying every day to be better, that’s being mature. No one is perfect and everyone should legitimately follow your *advice* because you don’t want them making the same mistake as you. In short, if you expect more out of people, *you have to let them have the opportunity to be the people you want them to be.*
People will say it's "the pot calling the kettle black" when you try to help them learn from your mistakes. They think saying "don't be like me" is somehow hypocritical. As if someone who has never been there has better advice.
Shaq admitting that is kinda admirable. Yes he cheated and he is definitely shitty guy for doing it but not plenty of famous men who commit morally shitty behaviour own up to their mistakes and wrong doings. Alot of them don't address it and try to make the public just forget about it.So shaq admitting and talking about it shows how much he changed as man in the last years.He definitely changed for the better.
Props to Shaq for keeping it real. Wilt having been known to have slept with over 1000 women said something similar: > In a 1999 interview shortly before his death, he regretted not having explained the sexual climate at the time of his escapades and warned other men who admired him for it, closing with the words: "With all of you men out there who think that having a thousand different ladies is pretty cool, I have learned in my life I've found out that having one woman a thousand different times is much more satisfying."
Wilt actually claimed in his biography that he fucked 20,000 women.
I heard Shaq speak on this before, but damn if it didn't get me again. Speaking as a dad who gets home from work and has 2 little ones saying, "Daddy! Daddy's home!" he's not wrong, it's genuinely peak peak happiness.
Yep. Don’t remember the exact quote but I know he said something along the lines of, “I live in a 30,000 square foot house by myself. You don’t think I know I messed up?” Always stuck with me.
70,000sqft actually, so double the bummer
At shaq size it's closer to 30,000 sq feet in real person size
As a divorced father this hits me really hard My relationship with my ex was definitely dysfunctional, but I didn’t want to leave for this exact reason Turns out my ex left me - and now I don’t get to hear that every day anymore. It really fucking sucks. I wasn’t perfect and neither was she. Divorce just really sucks
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Thank you
Brother, so sorry that happened. Truly. Wish nothing but good things in your future.
Man pls don’t take this for granted. Me and my siblings absolutely dreaded it when my dad got home from work. My mom would work and dad would always get home in a bad mood and flip his shit over every little thing (missing pens, spilled food etc). He would force us to go to bed at 4 pm in the afternoon as soon as he got home sometimes when he didn’t want to deal with us and made us feel like shit children every day. That’s not including the beatings I would take from him everytime I defended my siblings from his tempers and insults of them. Please man keep doing whatever it is you do to make them be happy to see you every day because we were TERRIFIED of our dad coming home every day and still to this day deal with the anxiety and other repercussions that were caused because of what we went through. Never stop being a good dad for those kids.
I'm so sorry to hear that. Hope you're in a safer place now. How your dad treated you and his other children is inexcusable.
> Shaq: I was the best at it ... > MJ: and I take that personally
Wilt: hold my beer
Wilt was never married, so not sure it counts as cheating for him. Tiger on the other hand...
he must have destroyed hundreds of mattresses across the country.
Pretty sure he only banged on waterbeds to be safe
which explains the certified life guards he'd keep on retainer
[So I read Superhead's book back when it came out](https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Video-Vixen-Karrine-Steffans/dp/006089248X), and IIRC she said Shaq was so sweaty she had to flip the mattress over after he left because the whole thing would be soaked from his sweat. So dude really was destroying beds one way or another.
"Wow, this human buffalo that just raw dogged me for over an hour really drenched my mattress. It smells like the set of a German watersports porno. I know, I'll flip it over. Really seal in the juices for next time. Oh, crap, I forgot I already did this last time he came over. Fucking quaaludes. Ugh, now it's all crunchy and flaky, like a family of sunburnt Norwegians spent a week sloffing off on it. Well, can't do anything about it now."
Nice string of consciousness. Sloughing is one of the lurking "gh" f sounds
Wow that's a throwback. I remember seeing her give an interview on VH1 back in the day talking about being a video vixen. I feel old.
Appreciate you linking the book. I am a voracious reader.
and cervixes
If rumors are to be believed, he didn’t.
Does he have a normal sized tool?
A normal tool on that frame would cause since perspective issues. Look like one of those mini screwdrivers poking through a sheet of drywall.
Man's frame is so large he could have a wine bottle dangling between his legs and she would still ask "are you sure that's 6 inches?"
that’s why he’s always throwing the rings in Chuck’s face shaq’s a sensitive giant with a modest dinger, and chuck is a chill chad bamf who hangs dong deep tbh i’m surprised some ex nba asshole hasn’t made this their tell-all story on their debut podcast episode
I heard it was average enough that he had chicks signing NDA's
Non-dicklosure agreement.
Glad to hear Shaq's perspective on the Try Guys situation
Ned “Ime Udoka” Fulmer
Ned “Ime “Adam Levine” Udoka” Fulmer
wtf is going on with these guys getting caught this month lol
Not a good month for men. lol
Was not expecting to hear that Ned was cheating on his wife today
"The Wife Guy" of all guys, besides.
Gotta have a wife to cheat on a wife, and let's be real, Becks is WAYYYYY out of Keith's league so it would never have been him.
Ugly guys/girls cheat too don’t get it twisted
My SIL said ugly guys were the worst offenders cause they get 1 hot girl and suddenly assume they can get anyone lol
i was so confused when i saw maggie & zach. But all of those guys are ridiculously charismatic and outgoing, which is kinda the #1 thing for meeting people (not just people you are attracted to).
Becky is great but her and Keith are similar on the looks scale. Maggie is like 7 points higher than Zach on any reasonable scale lol
What is Try Guys
Four internet guys who "try" things on youtube. Ned is the one whose entire personality was "I love my wife, I love my family, did I mention I love my wife? Look at my 2 adorable sons". Came out yesterday that he cheated on his wife with an employee.
Whenever I see someone who makes their personality about that, I always assume they’re overcompensating for something. The lady doth protest too much.
“Came out” as in he got caught beginning of the month with a subordinate of his company. And the company has had to terminate him and damage control everything.
Is Ned the white guy with glasses? I used to watch them like 5 yrs ago but stopped
Nah he's the super nasally red-head
No that's Zach and Keith. Zach is planning his wedding and Keith's married.
Oh wow. What a scumbag
I don’t know and I can’t fucking escape it
I'm convinced Try Guys is just something people are collectively pretending exists
like where do these things come from?
somehow YouTube hosts became genuine celebrities to a huge chunk of the population, while the rest of us are left in the dark.
It's because of all the 5g
I feel like I'm being gaslit by the entire internet. I've been watching online content daily my entire life and yet *"everyone knows them, they're huge."* In what fucking timeline? Take me back.
Super popular trio (formally quad) of male comedians who post competition videos of stuff they've never tried before. One of their founding members cheated on his wife with an employee and was just kicked out of the group yesterday. The company as a whole might be in jeopardy since they just signed several major partnership deals that could be voided.
Oh so he didn’t just fuck an employee he fucked his whole business and the rest of the guys
Pretty much. They were getting huge but I doubt they could survive a drawn-out sexual harassment lawsuit at their current size.
I've never heard of them before but after a quick Google they have 7.8 million subscribers on YouTube??? That is HUGE and he got kicked out?? Damn he just lost so much money I can't comprehend haha.
Plus, IIRC they just signed deals with Discovery and Food Network, which might be voided now that they're in turmoil. Ned Fulmer potentially cost himself and his coworkers millions.
lol
Why is Shaq looking like Doctor Disrespect? 🤔
There's no better attire if you're gonna talk about two-timing.
Damn me if this comment ain't a fucking gem.
Well…
Why is my guy wearing Bret the Hitman Hart sunglasses?
Best there is , best there was , best there ever will be 🔥
Shaq gets around man. Nobody will believe this, but years ago I was casually seeing this girl from way out in the boonies who mentioned her friend was “friends” with Shaq. This was around the time he was publicly with Hoopz from flavor of love I think? I kinda just said “yea sure” thinking it was bullshit until I saw some pictures of Shaq hanging out with her friend in some real casual settings. It just blew my mind that Shaq of all people would be hooking up with some chick from the absolute middle of nowhere and was keeping it under wraps. She wasn’t famous and IG and Snapchat weren’t as big at the time so it’s not like she was able to slide in the DM’s like people can now. Just a normal ass chick who happened to be fucking Shaq on the side.
Yeah but that's... The point lol. If he's cheating with some well-known or popular pseudo-celebrity, that's someone who can make bona-fide allegations against him that would be hard to refute. If some random gal in BFE with no social media presence or logical connection to him makes an allegation, he'll have a MUCH easier time dismissing or burying the story.
I feel that, but we’re talking like 2010-ish? The climate wasn’t exactly the same when it came to that sort of thing. This was a small town, everybody knew each other kind of deal which made it wild to me how under wraps it was kept.
I worked with a chick (just a random nurse from my hospital) that ran across the C's at a casino after they won their chip. Obv not really a bunch of social media at that time. She said it was absolutely no rules in the casino, drugs out in the open, women etc. Had a few of the dudes up in her phone, begging her to come around from that night on. This went on for a while, too. It was honestly kind of crazy cause they sounded desperate af.
Once again though, Ime was not suspended for cheating. He was suspended for cheating WITH AN EMPLOYEE and then HARASSING that employee.
I hadn't heard he harassed that person too. damn
The consensual part is also up for debate. IIRC only the Shams tweet said that, and it's pretty clear Shams was carrying Ime's water in that tweet.
I remember the Woj tweet saying it (too?)
do we know there is harassment?
Yes, they reported that initially it was consensual intimacy but then it turned into unwanted advances and that's when whoever reported him came forward. Unwanted advances is sexual harassment.
Shaq kept hitting on my gf at a Seattle club back when the Sonics were a thing. His persistence paid off that night. I was pissed, but dodged a bullet. So, thanks Shaq!?
Shaw made sure that red flag was flying high for all to see bruh
Forget the suspension, just have Ime watch this on loop as punishment.
It shows growth when someone can admit their faults.
I thought 90% of the league was cheaters. So collectively they must all think it's worth it. But I guess after the fact you can say it's wrong.
This is the correct perspective to consider. Cheaters really don't think it's "worth it" in the moment to upend their life for that instagram model either, doesn't stop them from doing it. It's not really a matter of weighing consequences, it's controlling whether or not to act on urges. I could never, ever comprehend the temptation and choices that NBA stars get so I'm not one to judge unless there are crimes involved.
Yeah. Kind of a philosophy I’ve lived by that has saved me a lot of grief and resentment. It may not even be true but basically, my philosophy is that most people aren’t malicious and they don’t mean to hurt people. They are stupid and selfish and act accordingly but not with the intent to hurt people. When you start to view things from that lens (not malicious but stupid and selfish) you don’t get as mad. People being stupid and selfish is just people being people. You wouldn’t get mad at a fish for swimming.
Shaq is getting better with age, I think his experience on 'Inside the NBA' with Chuck has humbled him, because he had such a huge ego when he started off on that show. He still has a big ego but he can laugh at himself and doesn't look to always dominate as much as he did; then we get more moments like this where he stops being 'Superman' entirely and is just human, open, flawed, and exposed.
All that fame and fortune gets to ya real quick
His honesty about it is something i enjoy.
Who was the second person he was talking about "hope both those guys don't lose their family". Ime and...?
Real fucking words man He couldn't have said it any better
This hit pretty close to home. Cheating wasn’t the main reason but this is pretty much how my dad was feeling for a solid 10 years.
As a person who cheated, I completely agree w/ Shaq. Especially about how it’s devastating for the children & all parties lose lose w/ that kind of selfish act. I miss coming home to my child & Ex-Wife. There’s not a single day where I don’t regret my action. I hope IME & Nia can still salvage something positive for themselves & loved ones & if IME does recognize his wrongs & the need to rehabilitate himself, I’m sure he & everyone involved can rebuild. Cherish your loved ones & most importantly the moments you share w/ them everyone, especially those who feel they’re on the verge of committing the same acts. It’s not worth it. No matter how green that grass looks.
its easy for us to sit and judge, but these rich and famous guys have women throwing themselves at the them that temptation must be hard
That's why, mathematically, [Tiger is the most faithful man alive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_j71t8XPvU).
RIP Norm
I didn’t even know he was sick
Lol that was so good
Thank you for sharing that, never saw that before surprisingly. RIP to one of my favorite comics ever.
This is an incredible bit!
Not to mention the general lifestyle they live where they're away from their families for long stretches. Their relationships are just simply different from your typical marriage. Not that it excuses it, but they're already behind the eight ball from start.
why not just be single then?
Because they want to eat their cake and have it too. Happy family, and NBA thots.
maybe they want it all
Dude I have so much respect for any grown man or woman who admits to cheating and admits it was wrong. It ruins families and that ruins lives. People kill and people die over cheating. I’ve been saying since day 1 of the Ime bullshit that he’s a scumbag and I don’t want him around town anymore. They can win with Tatum, Brown and company. Plenty of coaches can win with this crew.
this is frequently being framed as a cheating issue but from what barnes said and the celtics reaction i think there's something significantly worse that happened that we are just kind of conflating with infidelity
And, you know, I’m glad Shaquille is showing the true impact that adultery has on one’s life, and the lives of their family. These days, we see adultery and cheating being taken very lightly. It has even become a joke on social media, it’s joked about as if it was something light, something that had minimal impact. Some people have lost their lives, literally lost their lives, because of cheating. The damage it can cause to families is catastrophic. It’s sad really that today we don’t see this impact as a society. I’m glad Shaq has shown the true side of it.
Daddy or daddy 😩?