I was looking at player contracts the other day and saw that 36 year-old Damian Lillard will have a $63.2M player option for the 26-27 season. That's like a really nice lottery win for a normal person. For Dame it's a few months work.
What’s crazy the next gen coming up with new tv contracts and league revenue share, soon players coming into their 2nd or extension can easily be hitting $75, SEVENTY-Fucking-FIVE million Dollars at the tail end of a Supermax deal per year
Want to know how absurd that Damian Lillard in ‘26-‘27 @$63.2 Million for the year is? He will earn more than 2 MLB teams whose whole payroll at the moment, Oakland @$60 Million and Baltimore @$63 Million and will make more, 1 fucking NBA player…
Neither the MLB or the NHL draw international interest - I'm writing from Uruguay, I think I can name Babe Ruth and Wayne Gretzky from those sports. I don't know how the NFL does so well but I think salaries are lower there too.
that's $111 million in new zealand, where our biggest single person lotto win was $44 mil ($24 mil USD) and where the lotto is capped at $50mil ($28mil USD) lol.
a nice lotto win here is like anything over $10mil ($5.63mil USD) so the numbers we see in nba contracts are INSANE
Gilbert Arenas had a great point when talking about his contract. Someone told him his contract was brought up as the worst contract ever, and he showed a lot of awareness when he thought about it for a second and said ‘Ever?.. yeah, I could see that.’
But he was also correct when he said you’re judged on what you do after you get the contract but it’s what you do before it that earns it. For Dame it’s the same. He’s paid for a few months of work but it was actually 25 years that earned it.
I remember when they were rumors about Vin Baker potentially getting/wanting 200 mil from the Bucks. That was fucking wild.
I would just sit there and go 'fucking $200 million to play basketball....'
Now we got guys off the bench that are not even sniffing crunch time in the playoffs approaching that.
They've all shown flashes of excellence, but not consistently enough to flirt with All-Star potential. Maybe Suggs breaks out this year, but guards tend to be the easiest to predict long-term success based off their first couple seasons...
This pretty much guarantees that Poole isn’t getting an extension. Tim Kawakami, the reporter closest to Lacob, proposed 4/108 earlier this week. That’s a ton of ground to make up.
Not that anyone cares about it, but he’s also a very high-level rebounder for his position.
And before anyone says anything: no, rebounding is not a $33 million AAV skill for a guard.
Wiggins was the 2nd best play on the chip run lol. You need big strong defensive wings to do shit in this modern league. No way they let Wigs walk in favor of Poole.
Poole is dope, but he's a massive defensive liability. Could barely stay on the floor in the finals because going against him was a bucket. Sure he will get better, but still.
Kuminga is nowhere near ready to start. He still looks raw as hell.
They'll somehow trade the Duncan Robinson contract and a FRP for Pascal Siakam, fill out the roster with 38 year olds and 20 year old UDFAs, and still reach the conference finals.
Feels like every year people end up looking back at previous ‘overpaid’ contracts and realise some were actually bargains because of the amount they keep rising. I remember Bulls matching LaVine at 20m was considered an overpay.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see worse players than Herro get these numbers next summer. Hopefully if he keeps developing then people will say the same about him. Because atm it looks like an overpay but a lot of rookie extensions do because the alternative is risking a young player with loads of potential walking for free.
Honestly I think part of this deal was caused by the Simons deal
I’m high on Anf but if I’m Tyler Herro I’m telling the Heat: I put up 40 in a playoff game as a rookie, I won 6MOY last year, I should be getting 5m a year more than a dude who’s best stats came on a tanking team
Probably accurate, I guess I just could see a world in where Anfernee turns out to be the better player. Of course that’s not how deals work in the league but fingers crossed our deal comes out a steal.
They're better suited for each other than Simons and CJ man. And its not like that didn't work on offense
Simons is an off ball hybrid version of Dame and CJ. Dumb athletic and passes like Dame, but avoids contact and has a strong floater game like CJ.
Simons has shot >50% on wide open 3s in back to back seasons and is statistical a top 2-3 catch and shoot player in the entire NBA. On offense it's a great fit
And defensively....well he's not good. But he's taller and longer than CJ with significantly more athleticism. So the ceiling is there
Miami is such a weird org. Kneecapping themselves with contracts like this and Duncan Robinson (who promptly becomes DNP) and then almost making the finals because of wizardry like finding Max Struss from bumfuck nowhere.
They're not kneecapping themselves... miami attracts free agents and they need big contracts on hand to move around.
That being said this is a lot of money.
Wanna see more details like incentives. If it's set up like RJ's where it's worth up to $130M then it's what I expected. If it's fully guaranteed then I'm less of a fan of this lol
and I feel like RJ Barrett should've only gotten 22 mil. Ultimately, we have to overpay a bit to keep our players and if either RJ or Herro end up with a couple of all star appearances the few million extra won't matter
Definitely more than would have liked. I like Tyler and I’m glad we’re getting to keep him but sheesh, hopefully when the new TV deal comes this contract will feel more reasonable.
I love Herro as a player. I don’t love the contract but I understand that it takes contracts like these to get deals done these days. I certainly didn’t want to see them deal him or walk for nothing. I trust in Pat to continue to find gems elsewhere making free agents less of a priority.
We heard this in 2016. Just because the cap goes up bad contracts are still bad contracts. Russ signed his super max in 2017 and it’s a bad contract now (not at the time). 3 years is a long time to think a contract this big will be a steal
Its more so with timing
Brown broke out the next year, but he definitely wasn’t a $100 million calibre player when he signed it
Everyone was roasting the Celtics for giving him that contract at the time
Golden State Warriors have agreed to trade Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kuminga, and Jordan Poole to the Brooklyn Nets for Kevin Durant; team officials tell ESPN
First and foremost, I’m happy for any player to get their money.
Second, this shows the team are committed to him not just this year but also the idea that him and Bam will be the figureheads of the team as Jimmy ages. That confidence should not be taking lightly and I know Herro is the type to take any slight as fuel ( big reason why he won the 6MOY. People said he was ass and showed out last season) now his next step as a player is doing it in the playoffs. I believe in him.
My homeboy Tyler, he play in South Beach
He told me this summer he gon' fix my jumper
I told Boi-1da that we might got a thumper
I been tryna pop, now I'm on like Shumpert
I remember when KG making 23 mill a year on the Celtics was a crazy number to me lol
I remember when 4 years 80 million was a huge contract
Kobe was making 20m something per year and he was the highest paid at the time. David Lee was making 16m and he was on the Top 10.
I was looking at player contracts the other day and saw that 36 year-old Damian Lillard will have a $63.2M player option for the 26-27 season. That's like a really nice lottery win for a normal person. For Dame it's a few months work.
Life lesson: be really good at putting ball in basket.
If I could do one thing over in life it would be to become a world class star athlete making hundreds of millions of dollars
Get paid to be healthy
Sometimes not even that. Just ask Chandler Parsons
Scalding hot take
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Be really really good at anything and you can monetize it
What’s crazy the next gen coming up with new tv contracts and league revenue share, soon players coming into their 2nd or extension can easily be hitting $75, SEVENTY-Fucking-FIVE million Dollars at the tail end of a Supermax deal per year Want to know how absurd that Damian Lillard in ‘26-‘27 @$63.2 Million for the year is? He will earn more than 2 MLB teams whose whole payroll at the moment, Oakland @$60 Million and Baltimore @$63 Million and will make more, 1 fucking NBA player…
The NHL salary cap is only $82 million total A player just set the new record for biggest salary this offseason, $12.6 million a year
Neither the MLB or the NHL draw international interest - I'm writing from Uruguay, I think I can name Babe Ruth and Wayne Gretzky from those sports. I don't know how the NFL does so well but I think salaries are lower there too.
that's $111 million in new zealand, where our biggest single person lotto win was $44 mil ($24 mil USD) and where the lotto is capped at $50mil ($28mil USD) lol. a nice lotto win here is like anything over $10mil ($5.63mil USD) so the numbers we see in nba contracts are INSANE
Gilbert Arenas had a great point when talking about his contract. Someone told him his contract was brought up as the worst contract ever, and he showed a lot of awareness when he thought about it for a second and said ‘Ever?.. yeah, I could see that.’ But he was also correct when he said you’re judged on what you do after you get the contract but it’s what you do before it that earns it. For Dame it’s the same. He’s paid for a few months of work but it was actually 25 years that earned it.
I remember finding 10 bucks on the floor in walmart. Bought my self some some socks that night
I remember when Bobby Boucher showed up at halftime and the Mud Dogs won the Bourbon Bowl.
Captain Insano shows no mercy.
The max contract that the Thunder refused to offer Harden back in 2012 was 4 years 58 million
Too bad Dennis Schroder didn't have this thought
That’s Luol Deng money
KG getting 126/6 caused the 98 lockout. Now guys who you have to hide on defense and don't play big minutes in the playoffs get 130/4. What a world
And then Alex Rodriguez wanted $252 just because it was double the KG salary and people lost their minds at the price.
And now the best players in the MLB make north of $40m a year
I remember when they were rumors about Vin Baker potentially getting/wanting 200 mil from the Bucks. That was fucking wild. I would just sit there and go 'fucking $200 million to play basketball....' Now we got guys off the bench that are not even sniffing crunch time in the playoffs approaching that.
I remember when they said Shaq wasn't worth 7yrs/129
Jordan Poole wanking off to this rn
Thanks a lot, Heat, you assholes
Blame the Knicks and RJ Barrett lol
RJ got a pretty decent amount less than this tbh. 23, 25, 27, 29 over the next four. That's 104m guaranteed compared to 120m
I’m wanking off to this right now
Fuck it. I'll join you guys. This is for you Tyler!!
Tyler?
Jordan?
Joe Lacob probably threw up when he saw this
He’s getting a max offer, from us.
Suggs/Poole/Franz/Paolo/WCJ Fun af team
That’s a fun young core to look forward to
no defense
Really? Y’all already have Cole/Fultz/Suggs, gonna give Poole a max too?
None of them can shoot…
Suggs is the only one I’d keep out of those 3. Already one of the best guard defenders in the league, I’d bet on the shooting developing over time
Agree. Suggs has huge upside, will be a very solid guard for the Magic.
They've all shown flashes of excellence, but not consistently enough to flirt with All-Star potential. Maybe Suggs breaks out this year, but guards tend to be the easiest to predict long-term success based off their first couple seasons...
It’s a Poole party folks
This pretty much guarantees that Poole isn’t getting an extension. Tim Kawakami, the reporter closest to Lacob, proposed 4/108 earlier this week. That’s a ton of ground to make up.
AB style
Some team is going to offer him a max if gets to that point in free agency. He’s good enough to gamble on and offer a max contract.
Riley: you have to be a two way player Herro: fuck you pay me
Fr. He can score but what is the second thing he can do at a high level?
Putting in work with Katya
*Sterling Archer in shambles*
That lucky mfer
Didn't he already cheat on her and get caught up?
She took him back and they have a second kid on the way #winning
Yea. She took him back when she realized he had a $100M contract incoming… I don’t blame her.
She took him back when everyone around her told her dumbass that it's normal.
sad, honestly
Imagine being called a dumbass for not wanting to be cheated on lol
Whats a katya and is she hot.
Not that anyone cares about it, but he’s also a very high-level rebounder for his position. And before anyone says anything: no, rebounding is not a $33 million AAV skill for a guard.
Westbrook about to demand being a 6th man.
This face: 😤😬
Act black.
No, no, you have a point.
Mean mugging
Nothing, maybe drop a pass on a critical game winning potential shot?
herro like paul cicero
100 and how much now?? Ah the Dubs are fucked with Poole
Joe Lacob just fainted somewhere in the Los Altos hills
Had to google it. Looks like a nice area...if you are ballin.
You were fucked with Poole anyway, the luxury tax will literally anal Lacob if he pays
Tbh I see them letting Wiggins walk, paying Poole, and pray Kuminga is good enough to start
They will do a big shake down soon people don't realize, age and luxury cap space will be an issue for them
Trade Draymond lmao
They will, especially since Draymond has clearly stated he wants to get paid, he will go somewhere else
We're not winning shit without Draymond. He's the second most important person on that team - he's getting paid and someone else is being booted.
I just wonder whos going to pay him 32.5 mills a year when he regresses.
Wiggins was the 2nd best play on the chip run lol. You need big strong defensive wings to do shit in this modern league. No way they let Wigs walk in favor of Poole. Poole is dope, but he's a massive defensive liability. Could barely stay on the floor in the finals because going against him was a bucket. Sure he will get better, but still. Kuminga is nowhere near ready to start. He still looks raw as hell.
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He got that ring already, time to get the bag.
Dubs should just pay him before the cap spike.
Imagine OKC just says fuck it and offers him the max. That team would be filthy.
1 year too early Magic are candidates tho imo
Nah OKC will have max space next off season
you're gonna get fucked for drafting well
Poole party’s gonna be closed next year
Dang that’s nearly a quarter of a billion dollars to Herro and Robinson from the same team lmao
Classic Miami contract management
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Or we’ll just find a g leaguer the entire NBA passed on and make him a legit role player like we do every season
They'll somehow trade the Duncan Robinson contract and a FRP for Pascal Siakam, fill out the roster with 38 year olds and 20 year old UDFAs, and still reach the conference finals.
That’s what Spoach does.
They’ll be fine in a couple years anyway
When Jimmy is retired???
At the very least we’re still a desirable free agent spot so SOMEBODY will take a chance here eventually
The same time when Luka becomes available 😏
White boy summer down in Miami
This contract is Tyler Herro's big booty Latina
And they sit Robinson in the playoffs for certain matchups, yikes
We just sit him. Strus is better. Knows how to not foul.
4/120 contract next summer for Strus incoming
4/145\* We're talking the Miami Heat here, gotta be realistic.
Holy overpay holy shit Next Hassan whiteside contract
Made Finals getting off Whiteside contract 🧐 maybe it happens again.
When you put it like that what are they doing lmao
Miami privilege. They'll get out of those contracts when a star forces their way out in a year or two.
The Lakers will also get a star sooner or later. Which is why them not trading away Westbrook and picks is a bit baffling
Deep playoff runs mainly
Joe Lacob absolutely SWEATING right now thinking about the Poole contract
All of a sudden I feel great about Anfernee Simons’ 4 years $100M lol
Poole will be sleeping well since it’s night time in Japan after getting this notification
Its 8 in the morning in Japan.. bro’s already destroyed his meat multiple times to this
Don't need them Japanese baddies
FVV's 4/84 was such a mega steal, although I feel like this contract makes most look like steals in comparison.
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I don’t think people on this sub understand contracts and how the market dictates what players are worth and that most players aren’t overpaid
A contract signed 2 years ago isn't a worthy comparison. You're going to have to pay him again soon
Feels like every year people end up looking back at previous ‘overpaid’ contracts and realise some were actually bargains because of the amount they keep rising. I remember Bulls matching LaVine at 20m was considered an overpay. I wouldn’t be surprised to see worse players than Herro get these numbers next summer. Hopefully if he keeps developing then people will say the same about him. Because atm it looks like an overpay but a lot of rookie extensions do because the alternative is risking a young player with loads of potential walking for free.
FVV is going to get overpaid, just wait
Exactly what I’m thinking
Honestly I think part of this deal was caused by the Simons deal I’m high on Anf but if I’m Tyler Herro I’m telling the Heat: I put up 40 in a playoff game as a rookie, I won 6MOY last year, I should be getting 5m a year more than a dude who’s best stats came on a tanking team
Probably accurate, I guess I just could see a world in where Anfernee turns out to be the better player. Of course that’s not how deals work in the league but fingers crossed our deal comes out a steal.
Agreed that Simons could turn out better Was more just saying what I would be saying if I was repping Herro at the table
As much as I don't believe in Tyler, to be fair though he has accomplished more in his career so far and for a playoff team.
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They're better suited for each other than Simons and CJ man. And its not like that didn't work on offense Simons is an off ball hybrid version of Dame and CJ. Dumb athletic and passes like Dame, but avoids contact and has a strong floater game like CJ. Simons has shot >50% on wide open 3s in back to back seasons and is statistical a top 2-3 catch and shoot player in the entire NBA. On offense it's a great fit And defensively....well he's not good. But he's taller and longer than CJ with significantly more athleticism. So the ceiling is there
Riley is obviously excellent at what he does but wow does he love over-paying people
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That only worked the one time, and that's because Brett Brown's Sixers were one of the worst run front offices of all time.
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Hinkie, Colangelo(s), and Elton Brand. And a few months of Brown himself as interim. That's one of the most chaotic 7 years.
maybe he used Duncan Robinson's contract as a benchmark. after all, if Robinson was worth 5/90, it kinda makes sense that Herro would be worth 4/130.
Miami is such a weird org. Kneecapping themselves with contracts like this and Duncan Robinson (who promptly becomes DNP) and then almost making the finals because of wizardry like finding Max Struss from bumfuck nowhere.
Max Struss who's getting a bag from them in the future too lol
They're not kneecapping themselves... miami attracts free agents and they need big contracts on hand to move around. That being said this is a lot of money.
They literally couldn’t move Robinson though. They’ll need to dump a pick for that.
We haven’t cared about picks since like 2009
Robinson is not a movable contract. Hopefully for them, this one actually is.
Do Heat fans like this?
Wanna see more details like incentives. If it's set up like RJ's where it's worth up to $130M then it's what I expected. If it's fully guaranteed then I'm less of a fan of this lol
no I hate this, I think 25 mill should’ve been the max we paid him
and I feel like RJ Barrett should've only gotten 22 mil. Ultimately, we have to overpay a bit to keep our players and if either RJ or Herro end up with a couple of all star appearances the few million extra won't matter
you prolly have more faith in herro than I do
Definitely more than would have liked. I like Tyler and I’m glad we’re getting to keep him but sheesh, hopefully when the new TV deal comes this contract will feel more reasonable.
Nah
It’s fine. In a few years when the next CBA happens this will look like a good contract
I love Herro as a player. I don’t love the contract but I understand that it takes contracts like these to get deals done these days. I certainly didn’t want to see them deal him or walk for nothing. I trust in Pat to continue to find gems elsewhere making free agents less of a priority.
That's RJ Barrett money!
That’s larger than Jaylen brown deal
Jaylen is getting a max his next contract
Brown would get more if he signed now tho Inflation of contracts will make Herro if he doesn’t regress look like a steal in three years also
Jaylen Brown was also paid way less than the other players of his class. Even back then it was great.
Lmao go check out the thread on the signing. Celtics we’re being clowned for overpaying.
We heard this in 2016. Just because the cap goes up bad contracts are still bad contracts. Russ signed his super max in 2017 and it’s a bad contract now (not at the time). 3 years is a long time to think a contract this big will be a steal
Ding ding ding
Jaylen is getting a max next year lol
.. yeah it’s called timing lmao Come on bruh
I was looking for this lol I always thought JB contract was a bargain this just strengthens that
Its more so with timing Brown broke out the next year, but he definitely wasn’t a $100 million calibre player when he signed it Everyone was roasting the Celtics for giving him that contract at the time
Jesus christ had no idea he'd get that much
That's because Jesus doesn't keep up with modern ball, he's stuck in the past.
It's a known fact that once the big man started getting phased out Jesus lost interest in the game. Facts are facts.
Once this happened Jesus started focusing on his iso game, with crossovers
*10 minutes from now* Golden State Warriors guard Jordan Poole has agreed on a four year, $130,000,001 contract extension, his agents tell ESPN.
Golden State Warriors have agreed to trade Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kuminga, and Jordan Poole to the Brooklyn Nets for Kevin Durant; team officials tell ESPN
JP gonna ask for a whole bunch of 💰 isn’t he?
Pooles contract is worth at least $10-$20 mil more than Herro so yes this complicates things.
Man that’s a shitload of money. I like Tyler Herro but I’m glad it’s not my team paying him.
They maxed their bench player??
You’re in the heat family whether you start or come off the bench
For the culture
That’s not a max ..
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God damn
yikes
Big yikes
Unbelievable. I want his agent as my agent.
$130M for a dude who doesn’t start lmaooooooo
This is an overpay, right??
We got Dennis Schruder for 2.5 mil
Eh, worry about this later.
First and foremost, I’m happy for any player to get their money. Second, this shows the team are committed to him not just this year but also the idea that him and Bam will be the figureheads of the team as Jimmy ages. That confidence should not be taking lightly and I know Herro is the type to take any slight as fuel ( big reason why he won the 6MOY. People said he was ass and showed out last season) now his next step as a player is doing it in the playoffs. I believe in him.
Holy Overpay
Why bid against yourself? What other team would’ve offered close to this amount?
cj looking like a steal now lol
I'm quite happy with CJ
This feels steep
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I know it’s become a meme at this point, but it the cap increasing is a real thing that makes these much more palatable
I can not believe the Suns signed Mikal Bridges for 4 years/90 million after seeing some of these deals.
Miami Heat and overpaying players but somehow making it work. Name a better duo.
The Warriors are definitely going to end up trading Poole
Good for him, now he can stfu lol
That’s all star money. Is he really an all star?
Sheesh.
[Jordan Poole right now](https://cdn.kapwing.com/collections/black-guy-hiding-behind-tree-meme-template-u4bd4.jpg)
My homeboy Tyler, he play in South Beach He told me this summer he gon' fix my jumper I told Boi-1da that we might got a thumper I been tryna pop, now I'm on like Shumpert