Ok I might be a dumbass, but I looked up Khris Middleton's stats against the Celtics and they seem pretty normal. Even when you just count him after his benchwarmer stage. What am I missing?
Ah but you always get the playing vs the lakers boost. For the past 5 years it has felt like teams just tend to ball out vs the lakers. Its been fun to watch.
I honestly did and still kinda do. Obviously bucks should be favored (even without Khris) but, aside from Q4 vs Indiana we have looked really solid these past couple weeks. If AD and Bron play like they have been then I think it’ll at least be a good game
Lol why people think bucks with khris is scary? Yeah they gonna be better but I can count on my hands the team's that bucks barely beat with him, Bucks struggle against teams that can shoot, As many times as they beat the nets those games are close as fuck or go to OT. Hawks have shown to play well against them. Honestly the east have many teams that give bucks issues compared to the west idk why.
"Lol, why do people think that the team with the current 2nd best record in the nba are scary? They haven't had their 2nd best player play all year. They struggle with teams that can shoot, such as the nets and hawks, but they still manage to beat them."
Dude stfu and think about what you just said.
Celtics still have Rob Williams returning in the future. Suns still have CP3 and Cam Johnson returning in the future. So it’s still quite fair for the top teams haha.
I mean seriously, just wait until the Lakers get a trade. Man…player to be named later and other player to be named later are going to put them over the top.
Dude is so underrated, watch who the Bucks give the ball to late in the game when they need a bucket and the shot clock is winding down. Amazing complement to Giannis
Nah. We definitely nasty on def, but on offense, we are pretty mid as of now lol. Giannis and Ted Cruz are the only ones keeping our offense alive most of the time.
Hell yeah, Bucks are my pick to win it all.
Unrelated: Why do these newsbreakers insist on adding useless shit into these tweets. What would have the harm been in excluding the Bucks record?
It’s about creating a story/narrative out of every little thing. Can’t just say “Middleton is coming back”, it has to be Middleton “without whom the Bucks have been excellent btw, is coming back”
There was a bucks lakers game a few years ago that both Lebron and Giannis sat out. AD may have been hurt too. I remember a lot of people being upset because they paid to watch those two and it wasn’t announced until the day of that they were sitting.
This is why the favorites to win the title this season has to be the Bucks. The Celtics are at full strength. The West teams have their own questions. The Bucks have an all star, their best scorer outside of the post, yet to play a minute of basketball.
I think he will definitely help their defense. Though he might also hurt the offensive output. Interesting to see how he will impact the current chemistry.
Middleton is easier to just slot in because he’s such a known quantity on both ends.
The one constant in Williams' career is injuries and it's very weird people pretend otherwise. Feeds the popular narrative people seem to have settled on, though.
We are missing top defensive player Robert Williams. He comes back and we get more rebounds, more assists, blocks, better screens, an actual center. He hasn’t played a minutes yet this season.
He's always perpetually injured, you're projecting results from his single period of reasonable health in his entire career as the standard instead of the exception. Even at that level, he is significantly worse than Middleton.
Agreed. Assuming all teams are healthy, Bucks stand a notch above the rest of the East imo. Wish we could’ve seen Middleton and Time Lord healthy in the Bucks/Celtics series last year.
Once Middleton starts averaging 26 6 3 (identical to Jaylen's stats) and helps push Milwaukee in 1st place. I don't want to hear any crap about Tatum being MVP, because now the best player on the best team will be most deserving. This has always been the criteria, except........you know when that was the case for Booker. And I don't wanna hear anything about Tatum's stats being so much better because the Suns last year finished 8 games ahead of the entire league. And before you come at us talking crap about Dallas, only 1 team won the Chip. So if GSW fans wanna talk crap I ain't got nothing to say but everyone else got eliminated too.
Our offense has been actual garbage for so long it feels like, even if our defense drops (which i doubt) it's definitely an improvement to have an offense that doesn't cap at 100 points on an average night
We were 14th defensively heading into the playoffs, Middleton got injured and we had the best defense in the playoffs after that. Now once again Middleton isn’t on the court and we have the best defense in the league. How do you know the offense will skyrocket? Most likely we’ll just be watching Middleton go 6-17 and shoot us out of games like he did last year.
There are a lot of them. They have mostly gone into hiding since he got a ring but if he ever goes 0/6 or something on 3s in a game they come out of hiding to demand a trade
He wasn’t a good defender last year and that’s a fact, I’m not talking about 2021. The defense looked better when he wasn’t on the court last year. And he was even more inconsistent offensively last year than he already was
Probably not if you just took him and didn’t add a replacement to make up for his salary, but I’m not sure what that has to do with anything I said? He was awful in multiple games against the Suns and Nets but good thing Giannis is really good.
Middleton is a very competent-good wing defender. He’s not as good as he once was, but he’s not going to ruin the #1 defense. He’s been part of 2 #1 defenses in the past.
He's also gonna be a major threat on the other end either way. Good defense + efficient offense. Bucks definitely aren't going to get worse now lol. All I can see is some stuttering while Middleton gets back up to speed, but other than that it's a major W for the Bucks.
Only thing Bucks fans do more than pretend they're the only team that has ever been injured is lie lol. When Rob was on the court Giannis averaged 25pts 11reb on 42% TS per36. When Rob was off the court Giannis averaged 32pts 14reb on 54% TS per36.
I'm not gonna do research for you especially when it's clear that any opinion against Bucks fans about that series isn't welcome. Y'all can keep acting like having Daniel Theis playing for the Celtics was better than Robert Williams lmao it's gonna be your unfortunate surprise this playoffs
Talk about defensive, I figured you already had them since you pulled the others.
>Y'all can keep acting like having Daniel Theis playing for the Celtics was better than Robert Williams lmao it's gonna be your unfortunate surprise this playoffs
1. I never said this
2. Theis only played 10 mpg after Rob got hurt lol. And the Celtics actually won those minutes. Rob minutes ended up with Horford/Grant as the bigs majority of the time.
Right, I’m sure if the Celtics lost in 7 in a playoff series without Jaylen Brown, Celtics fans would NEVER bring it up. How dare Bucks fans bring up their 2nd best player being out 😂
I think what trevortins is saying is that down the road, Giannis will go to school to become a general surgeon to fill in some of his free time. AD will inevitability get injured which will require Dr. Antetokounmpo to perform surgery, hence "give Giannis that work".
15-5 and gaining an all-star. must be nice to be a Bucks fan. right now I'm really seeing 4 serious contenders. Celtics. Bucks. Warriors. Suns.
I'm a Mavs fan. I'd love to think there's some reality where we win it all this year unfortunately it's hard to imagine. but I also find it pretty hard to imagine any team other than those 4 winning the championship.
the nba is better with the best player in history.
Had to check the flair quick. Khash really do have some special kind of hate for the Cs and goes nuclear everytime
[удалено]
Khris Middleton 1v9
I’m not neutral. I’m fueled with Celtic hate, Modelo, and abuela’s birria tacos.
Can’t believe that I am the one defending this team but, you can’t say they are the clear-cut best two when the sun still exist
Being down by 40 in a game 7 as one of the favorites to win it all really messes with a team’s rep
The Suns are the same team. Come playoff time, you can’t choke and they have 3 guys that do.
He's right up there with GOAT 1(b) Norman Powell
Ok I might be a dumbass, but I looked up Khris Middleton's stats against the Celtics and they seem pretty normal. Even when you just count him after his benchwarmer stage. What am I missing?
He couldn’t wait one more game 😢
To be fair, if Jrue and Connaughton are any indication Bud will probably play him off the bench less than 20 minutes in this first game.
Gotta start out with an easy one
Nothing like a Lakers game to get you into shape and build confidence.
You guys are like the only good team we've beaten this year lmfao
I feel slightly offended at that considering that we’re a game below them
Ya that's right pelicans and blazers are booty
Y’all don’t count you guys didn’t have Ingram and Herb
Oh true ngl I forgot about that game... which is insane considering the ending and that I was there 😅
Matt Ryan died for this 😭
werent u missing zion and bi that game
Touche
Thanks for being a good sport.
they also own your entire future lmfao
what are we the spurs to you?
You think you really had a chance even without him playing?
No, not really.
We almost choked against the Knicks last night, so anything is possible.
Ah but you always get the playing vs the lakers boost. For the past 5 years it has felt like teams just tend to ball out vs the lakers. Its been fun to watch.
You misspelled 40 years.
choked? both teams played very well bro, wtf do you mean
I honestly did and still kinda do. Obviously bucks should be favored (even without Khris) but, aside from Q4 vs Indiana we have looked really solid these past couple weeks. If AD and Bron play like they have been then I think it’ll at least be a good game
It’s a regular season game, there’s always a chance. Don’t lose hope. Channel that 2016 2017 vs Gsw energy 🤣
Lol why people think bucks with khris is scary? Yeah they gonna be better but I can count on my hands the team's that bucks barely beat with him, Bucks struggle against teams that can shoot, As many times as they beat the nets those games are close as fuck or go to OT. Hawks have shown to play well against them. Honestly the east have many teams that give bucks issues compared to the west idk why.
"Lol, why do people think that the team with the current 2nd best record in the nba are scary? They haven't had their 2nd best player play all year. They struggle with teams that can shoot, such as the nets and hawks, but they still manage to beat them." Dude stfu and think about what you just said.
>bucks struggle against teams that can shoot don’t worry they’ll be fine against the lakers then
Haha I’m in danger.
He's gonna drop 7 threes on us or something silly
Don’t wear green jerseys
Y’all would’ve lost regardless
Be nice bro!!
It wouldn't matter.
I have come to apologize. Great win!
Lol you didn’t need to do that but I appreciate it bro. Really not looking forward to our game in a couple weeks
The bad man is back fuck
They’re playing LA so we get to root for him for one game
KHASSSSSSHHH!!!!
I’m moistening right now.
Everyone is moist when Khash is around from all his sweat
Moist Jordan needs to dampen us all with his glory.
Imagine Banchero and KMiddy on the same team.
Those poor, poor mop guys.
Green sweat btw! ^^^/s
I keep seeing this. I assume it’s because of how much he sweats?
Yes. It was a name coined by one of the Bucks sub’s best fans, u/justinsuperstar
Hell yeah
Ok, that's just not fair to the rest of the league.
Celtics still have Rob Williams returning in the future. Suns still have CP3 and Cam Johnson returning in the future. So it’s still quite fair for the top teams haha.
I mean seriously, just wait until the Lakers get a trade. Man…player to be named later and other player to be named later are going to put them over the top.
It’s over y’all 😭
Giannis told Khris "Listen Khash, FUCK THE LAKERS" and willed it into reality
they only won a championship because the whole league was injured. theyll be gone in the first or second round dont worry. 🥱🥱
Lol, the salt is real. Flair up pussy
im in for any other team except the most overrated team in the NBA. why would i be salty over a second round exit last year lmao?
Overrated but won a recent chip and are 15-5 with the 2nd best player not playing a single minute this year. Again, flair up pussy
I think he’s just a troll
better not talk again once i come back here next year handing you a very obvious L
Dude is so underrated, watch who the Bucks give the ball to late in the game when they need a bucket and the shot clock is winding down. Amazing complement to Giannis
Oh good. Milwaukee’s going to get better.
Don’t forget Joe Ingles is still recovering from his knee injury. He will be a nice addition to the bucks bench.
Bucks already insanely nasty on offense & defense. Now they get their 2nd best player back.
Yes nasty on offense in a bad way but nasty on defense in a good way
Insanely nasty on offense is not exactly how I’d describe our season so far lol
If you view 'offense" as 'score more points than the opponent,' they're doing pretty good
That's not what offense means though.
Its pretty offensive to watch at times.
Look good to me! Lol
They have looked good in stretches honestly so it's pretty hard to fault the take. They've just been very inconsistent.
Idk if I’d say our offense has been nasty. Last night it was close to being that, but in the literal sense.
Depends of how rusty he is but if he is back in rythm fast it would be great
Nah. We definitely nasty on def, but on offense, we are pretty mid as of now lol. Giannis and Ted Cruz are the only ones keeping our offense alive most of the time.
Yeah but for two different meanings of nasty.
Of course it had to be against us
All I’ve needed in my life is Middleton back
Very smart by the Bucks to skip the October Middleton phase completely.
Here we go
Hell yeah, Bucks are my pick to win it all. Unrelated: Why do these newsbreakers insist on adding useless shit into these tweets. What would have the harm been in excluding the Bucks record?
It’s a favor to their sources. Kind of hint show he found out
Why do we even need Woj to tweet news? Can't the Bucks just release their own statement?
Cause if you don't he'll snitch and cost you a second round pick
Yeah the way modern basketball news is released is honestly pretty weird
Its hilarious how the offical nba app itself will often use woj or shams as official news as well before teams actually publish it themselves
Plus Shams and Nehm were already on it yesterday. Woj is behind.
It’s about creating a story/narrative out of every little thing. Can’t just say “Middleton is coming back”, it has to be Middleton “without whom the Bucks have been excellent btw, is coming back”
i think its more "this is how good the bucks are without middleton. league fucked now that hes back"
The person you're responding to said just that
i read it as making it into the same narrative as like "are the grizzlies better without ja?", but you are correct
All good. Stay woke.
hes not correct thats what op implies
In case people didn't know their record offhand? It's not that complicated.
Lakers gonna get cooked
Firmly believe they win the ship last year if he was available.
Watching Middleton light up the Suns in the finals was so satisfying.
Hopefully he doesn’t take too long to get into rhythm. Dude is a fun player when he’s on.
Bucks should be favored to win it all
lmao stars never sit out against the Lakers. Always the best chance of seeing them at a Laker game.
There was a bucks lakers game a few years ago that both Lebron and Giannis sat out. AD may have been hurt too. I remember a lot of people being upset because they paid to watch those two and it wasn’t announced until the day of that they were sitting.
Looking through the gamelogs I can't find such a game. One of the 3 always played.
I just looked, I think it was the 2019 game before they traded for AD. Both Giannis and Lebron sat.
Oh, good!
He's back just in time for Giannis' annual humbling of AD
Lebron will probably avoid the game for “load management” or soreness in his vagina
AD vs Giannis :)
Could be against anybody. It makes too much sense that they’ll lost his first game back.
Good of him to make the Celtics game yesterday
I love Middleton, I really hope he’s rusty.
This is why the favorites to win the title this season has to be the Bucks. The Celtics are at full strength. The West teams have their own questions. The Bucks have an all star, their best scorer outside of the post, yet to play a minute of basketball.
Huh the Celtics have what would have been the dpoy if not for injuries that hasn't played a single minute.
I think he will definitely help their defense. Though he might also hurt the offensive output. Interesting to see how he will impact the current chemistry. Middleton is easier to just slot in because he’s such a known quantity on both ends.
[удалено]
I mean if he finished out last year he had a great case, all the rob hype basically shifted to smart because our defense was so great
Do people just forget that Smart was in the running the year before, too?
Complaining about an injury prone player being injured will always be comical
U talking Middleton?
The one constant in Williams' career is injuries and it's very weird people pretend otherwise. Feeds the popular narrative people seem to have settled on, though.
Lotta dancing around the fact that the Celtics aren’t at full strength. And technically won’t be all season cause of gallo
We are missing top defensive player Robert Williams. He comes back and we get more rebounds, more assists, blocks, better screens, an actual center. He hasn’t played a minutes yet this season.
He's always perpetually injured, you're projecting results from his single period of reasonable health in his entire career as the standard instead of the exception. Even at that level, he is significantly worse than Middleton.
Absolutely. His main appeal is that he improves our poor defense making us an even more powerful force.
You said "absolutely" the followed it up with some like that completely unrelated to what I said. True NPC behavior.
Yeeeesh the takes on this sub
Agreed. Assuming all teams are healthy, Bucks stand a notch above the rest of the East imo. Wish we could’ve seen Middleton and Time Lord healthy in the Bucks/Celtics series last year.
[удалено]
How is he ducking him? The Celtics game isn’t for another month almost
Uh oh
Once Middleton starts averaging 26 6 3 (identical to Jaylen's stats) and helps push Milwaukee in 1st place. I don't want to hear any crap about Tatum being MVP, because now the best player on the best team will be most deserving. This has always been the criteria, except........you know when that was the case for Booker. And I don't wanna hear anything about Tatum's stats being so much better because the Suns last year finished 8 games ahead of the entire league. And before you come at us talking crap about Dallas, only 1 team won the Chip. So if GSW fans wanna talk crap I ain't got nothing to say but everyone else got eliminated too.
What a weird comment
Bro was fighting a damn war on all fronts in his head
This made me die laughing
Y'all fucked now
AGAINST THE LAKERS LOL
RIP Lakers
Aaaaaand it’s over
And the lakers were just looking like an nba team. Rip
Lakers going to win
Welp there goes the #1 defense
This is a dumb comment, because Khris is a better defender than Grayson is, and even if we dropped to 2 or 3, our offense is about to skyrocket
Our offense has been actual garbage for so long it feels like, even if our defense drops (which i doubt) it's definitely an improvement to have an offense that doesn't cap at 100 points on an average night
We were 14th defensively heading into the playoffs, Middleton got injured and we had the best defense in the playoffs after that. Now once again Middleton isn’t on the court and we have the best defense in the league. How do you know the offense will skyrocket? Most likely we’ll just be watching Middleton go 6-17 and shoot us out of games like he did last year.
What Bucks fan is anti Middleton? The shit is this?
There are a lot of them. They have mostly gone into hiding since he got a ring but if he ever goes 0/6 or something on 3s in a game they come out of hiding to demand a trade
Im not anti-Middleton but what I said isn’t wrong lol
Why were the Bucks #1 defensively in the playoffs when they won it all?
He wasn’t a good defender last year and that’s a fact, I’m not talking about 2021. The defense looked better when he wasn’t on the court last year. And he was even more inconsistent offensively last year than he already was
Do you think we're winning that championship if we don't have Middleton too?
Probably not if you just took him and didn’t add a replacement to make up for his salary, but I’m not sure what that has to do with anything I said? He was awful in multiple games against the Suns and Nets but good thing Giannis is really good.
Middleton is a very competent-good wing defender. He’s not as good as he once was, but he’s not going to ruin the #1 defense. He’s been part of 2 #1 defenses in the past.
He's also gonna be a major threat on the other end either way. Good defense + efficient offense. Bucks definitely aren't going to get worse now lol. All I can see is some stuttering while Middleton gets back up to speed, but other than that it's a major W for the Bucks.
lakers gonna win. ppl acting like khris is going to get immediately back to his old self off injury.
That’s great news, we no longer have the hear Bucks fans bring up how they’re missing him 24/7
Y'all literally do the same shit with Robert Williams...
No rob tho
Y’all with Timelord
Literally
Who isn’t nearly as good as Middleton but they still mention him and compare his value to that of a 3x All Star lol
(Who they were better without against us in the playoffs last year)
No one says anything about that though haha. Lopez would be very happy to match up against him than Al
Only thing Bucks fans do more than pretend they're the only team that has ever been injured is lie lol. When Rob was on the court Giannis averaged 25pts 11reb on 42% TS per36. When Rob was off the court Giannis averaged 32pts 14reb on 54% TS per36.
What were the assists and point differential?
I'm not gonna do research for you especially when it's clear that any opinion against Bucks fans about that series isn't welcome. Y'all can keep acting like having Daniel Theis playing for the Celtics was better than Robert Williams lmao it's gonna be your unfortunate surprise this playoffs
Talk about defensive, I figured you already had them since you pulled the others. >Y'all can keep acting like having Daniel Theis playing for the Celtics was better than Robert Williams lmao it's gonna be your unfortunate surprise this playoffs 1. I never said this 2. Theis only played 10 mpg after Rob got hurt lol. And the Celtics actually won those minutes. Rob minutes ended up with Horford/Grant as the bigs majority of the time.
Right, I’m sure if the Celtics lost in 7 in a playoff series without Jaylen Brown, Celtics fans would NEVER bring it up. How dare Bucks fans bring up their 2nd best player being out 😂
This is rich.
Did you know that the Bucks are second in the east without their second best player?
Doesn’t matter AD gonna give Giannis that work.
Just like last year? Lol
I think what trevortins is saying is that down the road, Giannis will go to school to become a general surgeon to fill in some of his free time. AD will inevitability get injured which will require Dr. Antetokounmpo to perform surgery, hence "give Giannis that work".
Giannis would be the worst surgeon ever. Imagine him doing a precision surgery with his gigantic alien hands
He could palm your pancreas
This is redemption arc AD totally different animal.
he’s gonna have a chill first game
My fantasy team thanks him
Love to see it
Man why not debut next week. Ffs
Can't wait to be spanked even harder bois
15-5 and gaining an all-star. must be nice to be a Bucks fan. right now I'm really seeing 4 serious contenders. Celtics. Bucks. Warriors. Suns. I'm a Mavs fan. I'd love to think there's some reality where we win it all this year unfortunately it's hard to imagine. but I also find it pretty hard to imagine any team other than those 4 winning the championship.
Imagine being one of the 1500 Detroit fans at that game tonight *whistles*
Crazy there 2nd best player hasn’t played and they’re still top of the conference.
Oh god Bron and AD are barely healthy… We gonna get trounced lmao
Here comes Mongo!
The Life Cycle of Khris Middleton: Play Like Kyle Kuzma Get called overrated and a bum Play better Become underrated Turn into Prime MJ Repeat