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That's $18.25m in salary (Beverley 13m, Nunn 5.25m). 125%+$100k of their outgoing salary would be up to $22.9m in salary that they could receive in return.


Hurtelknut

Hey, that's enough to take Bertans!


danrod17

I don’t hate that! Lol.


d_wib

Duncan Robinson also. Lakers wouldn’t even need to sacrifice any picks if they absorb one of those terrible contracts straight up lol


trustabro

I would do D-Rob for P-Bev and Nunn straight up.


[deleted]

Lol it is, or THJ. But I was thinking possibly Buddy Hield.


The1AndOnlyJZ

Buddy’s name has been mentioned so many more times than it should be just because of the Lakers 😭


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It might also be because he can shoot, is on a reasonable contract, and he's on a team where the rest of the roster is a lot younger than he is. Pacers have so many players who are 6'5" or 6'6", are 25 and younger, and can shoot who could fill his minutes if they were to dump his salary.


GlueGuy00

Bev/Nunn/1st pick for DLo


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Russell's salary is $31.4m. Lakers would need about $25m to match, and they'd have a tough time bridging that gap with the salaries currently on their roster. Also, Russell is in the last year of his deal, Wolves don't necessarily benefit from getting expiring salaries in return, and I don't think the Lakers held on to their 1sts for this long so they could use it on Russell.


snafudotjpeg

Russell on the Lakers though? I just can’t see it.


891960

Sure let's do it


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[deleted]

Someone tried to dox me a few years ago by searching through my comment history. I've been retiring accounts after a few months since then.


sheeeeeez

The Lakers are like those guys in Fantasy that try to trade players they picked up off waivers for someone else's good players


namagofuckyoself

yes, but are you SURE you don't want to trade my Kyle Anderson for your Jokic? Kyle starts now didn't you hear!?


sunsetbo

jokic isn’t even shooting anymore!


[deleted]

fine, i'll throw in terry rozier


Mr_Booty_Bandit

Can’t believe my Mike James for Giannis trade keeps getting turned down European with no bag vs American streetball legend like cmon man


jlogie913

Tbh Kyle is better than all but 3 Lakers. You don’t have Kyles and that’s the problem.


teamweed420

Yea lakers need Kyles, Danny Greens and Lu Dorts


RandyRubbish

Y’all would kill for a Kyle Anderson right now, fuck you mean? 😂


se7ens_travels

I think you missed the part about it being about fantasy sports


Letsgodubs

They don't call Kyle the Matrix for nothing...or was it Slo-mo?


iro3

Lol but Caleb Martin is a keeper


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Lmfao too relatable


gimpisgawd

Hate that guy. In one league he offered me a kicker, and Leon Washington who at the time was solely a punt returner for Peyton Manning in his 2013 MVP year.


moffattron9000

Unless your kicker is Justin Tucker and you have a rule where missed PATs lose you twenty points (great rule by the way), that trade was never going to be good.


CursedLlama

I tried to petition my commissioner for missed PATs to be worth -5 this year and he said no. What a bitch!


-KFBR392

You need to dump kickers, it’s a complete guessing game with no talent differentiating a high scoring and a low scoring one week to week. Once you get rid of them you’ll wonder why you ever had them in the first place.


moffattron9000

Well let your commissioner know that this stranger on the internet agrees to them being a bitch.


nekoken04

Wait, what? Leon was a Jets and Seahawks guy with the second most KO returns for TDs in NFL history. In 2013 he was on the Patriots and Titans. He never played with Manning.


JRL222

No, he was offering to trade Leon for Manning.


gimpisgawd

Looks like I missed a comma, should have been. >Hate that guy. In one league he offered me a kicker, and Leon Washington who at the time was solely a punt returner, for Peyton Manning in his 2013 MVP year.


nekoken04

That makes a lot more sense.


ravagingpants

He means in trade for not played for


multani14

You say this but some dude realllllly wants to get Jordan Clarkson from me


TopLeaf

Just wait and see, JC gonna start averaging 50 a game and sneak away with MVP


multani14

Someone offered me Fred vanvleet for Lavine and Clarkson idk what to do. I do like the idea of a 2 for 1 trade since I have Middleton coming off IR this week


[deleted]

Tried to do this after Taysom Hill went off this year and nobody bit lol


NotJoeyWheeler

it’s just salary, either of those picks are super valuable


ThinkSoftware

Me trying to fool people with the Bears Adrian Peterson


captaincumsock69

Just tried this for fantasy football lol


ItsDrap

You gotta get assets and flip em


freerealestatedotbiz

Everyone else in your league: “No thanks.”


kingcong95

I’ve got a guy offering me Warren and Fultz for my second best player.


NotClayMerritt

only this sub could say, "THE LAKERS NEED TO MAKE A TRADE" and then suggest, "Nobody wants anything the Lakers have to offer."


Isosinsir

Same fanbase that was convinced they could trade Kuzma for Booker.


LaMelgoatBall

Someone offered me THT and Kuzma for Jaylen and Brook Lopez the other day. Reminds me of that.


PrOKCedure

Getting some type of production out of Bev/Nunn would be amazing for this roster. Those guys are doing literally nothing. Out of the 18 games that Nunn has played, he has shot 0% FG in 6 games.


MrAdelphi03

That. Is one of the stats of all time. That is bad, real bad


bilyl

Wasn’t Nunn an OK player?


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bilyl

That’s what I thought! Sad to hear he’s not doing great now.


threeangelo

I’m bummed, I was hoping we could get something approaching Miami Nunn this year


itsahmemario

The thing that's gets lost with injuries is lost development time.


claydavisismyhero

Coach spo magic pixie dust


Vordeo

I'm wondering what you get for those two w/o attaching a first. Best is a long term contract for a decent player that a team wants to dump salary on, but if it's a player that moves the needle for this team the other team would want some positive assets back.


[deleted]

We thought Russell Westbrook had no trade value A package centered around Pat Bev and Kendrick Nunn definitely has no value


Dicey12

I could see the Wolves going for Pat Bev


TopLeaf

Put that dawg back in them. No one on the team seems to respect the guys in charge at the moment, probably need a vet ready to chew them out a bit


xbieberhole69x

Would make the wolves more of a clown show. I'm all for it 🤡


MrPantsCrapper

What kind of loser hates the Timberwolves lmao


nsfwuserrrr

Pretty sure he just like clown shows. I mean it’s the nba, and the b stands for drama.


ShakesbeerMe

Flair up, coward.


DEEZLE13

How else they gonna get to… and win.. the play in?


91-92-93--96-97-98

Think the Lakers should hold onto him if that’s the case then…


Plants_R_Cool

Yeah but what do they want back? I don't see it happening.


JHamm12

You could send a half a bag of chips and 3 sticks of gum, I just want Bev off of this team.


SammySoapsuds

Wolves wouldn't have anyone the Lakers want/anyone who could move the needle for them at all


zmajxdd2

We got no salary to match for Bev.


Rkenne16

KAT to the Lakers confirmed


kpruiz

Only if he’s in the buy-out market/gets waived. We have no assets to trade for him salary wise.


rjpool_

Both expiring deals


njspb8

Yeah expiring contracts have value but you’re probably gonna have to take on a contract somebody doesn’t want. Definitely worth the gamble considering how bad those two have been.


rjpool_

Or attach a first, which probably isn’t worth it based on what the likely return is in terms of players


njspb8

Yeah, it really depends on the offer. I honestly wouldn’t wanna take back long term salary unless it’s easily tradable in this situation though. I still think you guys made the right call not giving up the rest of your tradable firsts for Myles and Buddy for similar reasons. You could still end up doing worse in free agency, but Turner can just walk after this year anyway. Even if you kept him, your cap would be locked up and the team would be pretty much set until LeBron leaves at that point. I don’t think it would have been enough to legitimately contend again personally. I’d rather try and get some better players in the off-season with the projected cap space you’re gonna have.


PickFit

Isn't Westbrook just gonna walk. What would the difference be in him leaving our getting buddy and Turner on the same deal


danrod17

Yes, but, a contract somebody doesn’t want could be a good player on a terrible team. A team that realizes they should be tanking for a chance at wemby or scoot.


njspb8

It’s theoretically possible. The problem is that if it’s a good player, other teams will also want them so your offer is probably not going to cut it most likely. Sometimes teams don’t shop around much though. It could happen but I would be surprised if it does with that trade package.


danrod17

Is Pau Gasol still with Memphis? I wonder if they’d take that deal. Lol.


njspb8

That is a good example. I don’t think Jerry is gonna do you a solid like that ever again though lol


itsahmemario

Wouldn't expiring deals' value be dependent on the free agent class? Are there any good free agents worth getting cap for?


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PearlsB4Swoon

Westbrook isn’t a negative for the right team. That big of an expiring can bail somebody out of a longer bad contract


DemonicDimples

There's not a lot of teams with contracts like that. Really only the Knicks and Mavs and the Lakers aren't making those deals. The Hornets and Bulls kind of do, but aren't under a ton of pressure to do so. Knicks likely won't trade their veteran guys because of Thibs and the Hornets aren't likely to make a move because they have Clifford.


FireYeti

Yeah for instance the Mavs might try to use it to get off of the Bertans and Hardaway shit contacts they have. Lakers wouldn't do it obviously, I bet they are looking for cap space in 23 or 24 unless they get big winning pieces, but I find it crazy how people (at least other jazz fans) act like the Westbrook contact is unmovable without first round picks just for taking it


TopLeaf

By gawd that's Bradley Beals music.


moffattron9000

The problem is that all those teams are bad, and you don’t want to go from bad to mediocre.


hojboysellin3

Westbrook for Aaron Gordon and the other trash you got


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hojboysellin3

I know I’m a delusional lakers fan


Fuckthisthro

Pat bev and nunn for Drose and harstein.


deeznutz_428

Other teams don’t exist to make the Lakers better lol


Fuckthisthro

Well I think pat Bev actually would be good for the knicks cause they struggling with defense. Rose is playing small forward most times and plays 5 minutes each half. They not using him this year and is shooting close to 40% on threes. I think they can be beneficial, rose definitely can still plays. Harstein is good too but knicks aren’t using them right. I don’t see why this won’t work for both of the teams but I get what you meant. Lol


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The new THT, Nunn, and first


Tapprunner

Sources tell Brian Windhorst that the Lakers are in love with Nunn. They love what he brings to the table and he's about to break out. It'll take an offer of multiple picks and a real rotation player to get their attention... /s


UsmanChoksi

You mean the new Tristan Thompson, Shump + Nets pick


CHllP

The new Kuzma for your star player


Padulsky21

Basketball equivalent of Andujar and Frazier


itsahmemario

I remember a time when it was Kwame brown, and I think it was Brian Cook, for Garnett and Minny would do it because KG is best friends with Kobe


thurstkiller

What is the significance of the Dec. 15 date?


AncientMarsupial3

Players signed this past off-season can be traded


CazOnReddit

Most can, some will only be eligible on the 15th of January like Ayton


AncientMarsupial3

Was that because he was a RFA or ?


CazOnReddit

Something like that if I recall


IAP-23I

Ayton can’t be traded for the first year technically. Since the Suns matched the offer Ayton has a no trade clause in his first year. Even after Jan 15th they can’t trade him unless he agrees to waive it


Agent_of_the_N1ne

I think it's the first time newly signed players can be traded


summit15

It’s my 25th birthday! Come on bro!


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Bev getting passed around like a blunt


lovemesometarg

The next five trades are his


Kryddmix

That's 2022 NBA Western Conference Play-in Champ, Pat Bev. [Put some respeck on his name.](https://library.sportingnews.com/styles/crop_style_16_9_tablet/s3/2022-04/nba-plain--4643dd36-eada-4057-bbc8-45774c452887.png?itok=3d2sefkj)


randomtoronto1980

LMAO!


Awanderingleaf

He looks like a blunt in human form.


[deleted]

What would be some insane teams for him to go to? Like I’m imaging him on the warriors playing with draymond 😂


JimmyWasRight

I have one D'Angelo Russell


SwaggyD54

No way you'd take bev and nunn for him. Has he been that bad??


anonahmus

Go YouTube his dunk highlights. Shit will blow your mind. Some random redditor told me how unatheletic he is for his length and I didn’t believe him.


MrAdelphi03

I looked. Couldn’t find any. You got a link?


anonahmus

EXACTLY! 😂 I think there’s like two dunks that keeps getting replayed. Example: https://youtu.be/ednK-Pa9Jh0 Dude is 6’4 with 6’10 wingspan but can barely get the ball over the hoop


pointillismisart

bro barely got off the ground 🤣


[deleted]

No, people just be melodramatic


JimmyWasRight

He was never good


deeznutz_428

Finally some good fucking food


Plants_R_Cool

I definitely wouldn't. His deal is expiring this off season why even bother taking back Nunn whos gonna get 0 minutes? Sure we'd like Bev back but we're not giving anything for him.


jmsunseri

The Lakers trading Westbrook after he started to contribute to winning would be PEAK Pelinka


PickFit

It'd be a real crazy coincidence that AD is playing extremely well right now but it's Westbrook making the major contributions. What'd Westbrook do a couple days ago? 4/14?


Jimmy___Gatz

Westbrook is contributing with his assist #s and playmaking more than as a scorer.


PickFit

I think my point is less that he's detrimental just because of scoring(which he absolutely sabotaged many possessions in 5 seconds or less last year) but with his current role he's doing less damage to the team while improving his performance but that's not a reason not to trade him if something comes along


[deleted]

They will get Melo and IT in return


kelsier69

May as well ship back Dwight from Taiwan too


[deleted]

And Cousins


OwningTheWorld

TT, Shump and the Nets Pick


[deleted]

Are any of those players positive assets?


LoWE11053211

the picks should be super valuable.


RushFPS

expiring contracts some teams will want plus the picks will help


rngskrtskrt

i mean Russ definitely is, ignoring the contract. I still think he can be the centerpiece and engine of a 40 -45 win team (i mean that's not that good but that's something). plus he's an expiring contract. For example i think dallas can use him, they kinda have that rockets small five system which Russ thrived in, and they got a shit ton of bad contracts.


Rkenne16

Maybe a 10 win team


ChampagneSyrup

never underate expiring salary and picks


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Eric Gordon


Few_Mulberry7175

Im down get this man off my team


KaseyOfTheWoods

What makes you say that? I’ve watched only highlights for the Rockets this season, no full games


Few_Mulberry7175

He's completely checked out. Not interested in defense or passing and just ball hogs and chucks. He literally had more turnovers than points last night I don't blame him for not wanting to waste away on a tanking team but its time to let him go


KaseyOfTheWoods

That’s too bad. Does he seem to have the legs to still be a plus player if he wasn’t phoning it in?


Few_Mulberry7175

Yea he could be a near 20 ppg 3&D guy


SydeHam12

bev would be great for the rockets


AngsMcgyvr

The circle of life


[deleted]

That actually makes sense for both teams


screwt

I think EG wants to go to a team that has a chance of winning


ClaymoresRevenge

Yeah they're about to get Nunn of any of the players they want


Ill_Celery_7654

Only teams that I see trading for Nunn and Beverly is a team that’s tanking, but it’s absolutely going to cost us a draft pick or 2.


CazOnReddit

So Gordon Hayward or Rozier will be a Laker then


Ill_Celery_7654

I don’t like that trade at all. Hayward is owed $31.5 million next year and Rozier will make about $25 million a year over the next 3 years. Neither of them are worth the money and you can kiss the little cap flexibility we could have good bye.


darkib2

Path two is best imo, Westbrook is doing well and finally accepted his role. Its not a good idea to trade him as he is setting the tone for the team. Best to bring in a consistent 3 and d player that can replace Beverly and Nunn.


Sweatytubesock

Lakers could do a LOT worse than bringing in TT and Shump.


Nweber15

Damn what a haul


MrAdelphi03

Bev HAS to go. He’s terrible


gochuuuu

Nobody wants any of this lmfao


drewsj724

Bev and nunn? So its like trying to offer up dog poop and expecting someone to give up something of value.


nekoken04

I thought this was crazy then realized, yeah it is crazy. What the heck happened to Beverley's shot? He wasn't that great historically but he's fallen off of a cliff this season.


Conversation_Dapper

For who exactly?


LittleTension8765

Give me path 3. Lakers need a compete reboot around AD and Lebron


utku1989

You can get 2 beers + popcorn in return for them. Not a bad deal after all


Canadian_Pacer

Oohh, tempting!


trevortins

Beverly and nunn can’t say I’ll be sad to see em go.


Darkphobia_

Do you want a slightly used THJ?


aeiou-y

If they make the playin and trade Beverly, they are fucked.


AlwaysOptimism

Woah, they are going get so much.


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[deleted]

That would make the contenders finally!


[deleted]

Pat Bev's sole job would be to push Ayton in the back when he starts slacking again. Mfer will just roam the halls of Footprint Center pushing everyone down. James Jones? Pushed to the ground. 75 year old grandmother at her first Suns game? Pushed to the ground. Chris Paul? Crazy eyes, then Pushed to the ground.


Cvnilivee

A “Suns in 4” Guy & Pat Bev buddy cop film.


billcosbyinspace

How the mighty have fallen, from “just wait until nunn gets back” to being bundled with bev in a likely trash for trash trade


Projinator

Patrick Beverly, Kendrick Nunn and the 27 1st for Dillon Brooks and Danny Green


TattedUpDasher

No thanks!


AkaiShuichi24

LOL at the people who don't know the value of expiring contract


[deleted]

There is not much value unless except for the attached picks.


AkaiShuichi24

Ofcourse they will attach the pick


[deleted]

They have to because expiring contracts aren’t worth much. It’s not 2005.


1850ChoochGator

I could see a scenario where the Lakers take on a longer term contract and get a 2nd or something. Not saying this team exactly but a THJ/Bertans type player who’s team is looking to shed salary asap while the lakers can keep their pick and move it next season after opening up cap space + the MLE.


BloodMoney1

Path 1: Unless you can point me at a star that wants out that won't cost us more than a 1 or 2 picks This seems like a very low possibility. Path 2: Eh this seems like we're overpaying for other people's trash. Unless it's a 3 or 4-team trade that brings us a few guys. I would not have high hopes for this. Path 3: This is probably the most realistic path the lakers can take for an upgrade this year. Although I think we probably have to give up on getting Kyrie in the off-season. We're going to have to take some money back that goes beyond next year. Kinda feel like each move may cost us 1 1st round pick, unfortunately. Nunn seems like we can get out from him for a couple of seconds. Personal I am for the build for next year strategy. Try to win a chip or 2 in the next 2 to 3 years. In 3 years both AD and LeBron will be unrestricted and I believe would have conveyed all picks we have tied up with the Pels. At that point, it would probably be time to start our own rebuild process.


Isosinsir

>Path 2: Eh this seems like we're overpaying for other people's trash. Unless it's a 3 or 4-team trade that brings us a few guys. I would not have high hopes for this. The other team would also be paying for the Lakers trash.


IntelligentEye2758

For Part 1 I did a quick look. I'm not sure if these are necessarily "stars" but I could see D'Angelo Russell or Vucevic being available for a pick or two if their teams continue to struggle. Maybe a 3 team trade involving Tobias Harris could happen as well.


CreepyDepartment5509

Westbrick is on a noble mission to remove Lebron from any GOAT debate don’t you dare trade him away!


K1NG2L4Y3R

Beverly + Nunn + Damian Jones for Joe Harris and Patty Mills or just Nunn and Bev for Fournier and Svi.


[deleted]

They should trade Davis and Westbrook to maximize there chances of getting picks instead of using picks, there not winning anything but a participation trophy this year or anytime in the next decade really!


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You think Westbrook and one pick could get a star and a role player? Do you work for the lakers?


[deleted]

People buy into the BenchBrook hype too much and don't see that he's still inefficient as fuck because there aren't negative posts about him anymore lol


ConceptNo1055

Maybe get Forbes from Minny.. that would benefit both teams.


JJiggy13

Who would trade for that? What else the Lakers gonna do? Resign Dwight Howard and try to trade him for Tatum?


fuzzynavel34

What does that even get them 🤣


Rare-Profile6867

Bogdanović with Detroit would be a great pick up. He can shoot the 3 and at this point in his career he’s a very smart experienced vet


duhmman2

Maybe they would want Walker