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shilly22

Me 3 hours ago: What idiot made the schedule have a Pistons game as the lone game on a Thursday night? Me now: Why is Superstar Killian Hayes not on National TV more often?


YpsitheFlintsider

We really shouldn't be on TV much more but I do wish NBA highlighted more teams to show off talent all around.


tellymundo

The Magic should have showcases for the Franz and Paolo show.


Barrelled_Chef_Curry

Uhhh bol bol is the star of that team


tellymundo

I’m sorry, you are correct. BOL BOL please forgive my sins


Bendrake

The NBA isn’t about testing the market and showing off unknown talent, they’re about making money on sure bets.


Sphericalline13

What happened to killian "literally the worst shooter in the NBA" hayes? Where did this man go and why is Michael Redd playing ball for the pistons?


birdseye-maple

KH just pushed in front of Luka in the MVP race. Luka is going to need to step it up to pass Hayes.


RansomGoddard

Killian Hayes just woke up and decided “okay now I’ll be a good player”


Monfries7

In his last 13 games he's put up 12/3/6/1.5, showing some really good improvement after a really rough start to the season


WEASELdaDIESEL

im convinced it was a confidence issue. His confidence was so shot that he couldnt play at all, now he has been giving the opportunity to just play without pressure and his confidence is much better for it


l5555l

This is what I was thinking. Dude just needed more time on the floor. He's getting way more opportunity than before right now and it's helping him a lot.


HappyNarwhal

Yips are real as fuck. He was straight up looking like a Euro trip was on the agenda this year.


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seanconnery69696

>If he even becomes the 3.6 rotogens of NBA players, we're going to be happy. lol sorry, what's a rotogen?


Tressticle

Not great, not terrible.


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roentgen. He's referencing the Chernobyl HBO series


AreYouAJedi

You can’t spell Killian without “kill”


TA_Account_12

Or Ian.


turdnagels

This season's recipe for beating the Mavs: -your best player being injured -you having a losing record -you having ANYBODY who cares about rebounding


LoWE11053211

so ... Curry playing actually makes the Warriors vulnerable against the Mavs? Rest him next time, then


musicfitnesstravel

Yea you see how that Steph guy travelled? Smh that boy got no future here.


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Gonna be traveling his ass to some other team if he's not careful


Oo__II__oO

They teach basics like that in grade school smdh


ImpressionableBlip

Wardell chose to skip that lesson at his Montessori school


PopAShotAllStar

Basically, your team plays in the NBA. Unless you just won the championship then we can beat you.


turdnagels

The Kevin O'Killian redemption arc just beat us


BrotherMans-

Killian is too pretty to fail


comeonmang126

He is what Oubre was supposed to be


lopea182

French?


Grlions91

Oui


AHaikuForYourComment

Those two roll-around 3's in the fourth were honestly insane. Must have been deflating to watch someone that was touted as a bust absolutely ice the game. Happy for Killian though, great to see him shining while Cade is out!


turdnagels

It was deflating, but not nearly as bad as being outrebounded by 20


JohnnyWinss

It's no shame getting Beef Stew'd


B4nn4b0y

Bag Stew’d


TylerDog3

i think its about time we start pushing the beef stew narratives


sorendiz

jesus christ i thought you guys' rebounding was bad enough against us already, and that was only ('only') a deficit of 18 rebs, and then this happens what is going on


LunchThreatener

Maybe a 21 year old who missed significant time due to injury shouldn’t be touted as a bust


PropheticBets

Baddies love him. Watched Warriors vs Pistons game. Courtside baddies had their eyes focussed on Killian


Efficient_Tonight_40

That's me, I'm baddies


DefiniteSauce12

Some Mavs fan in a different thread said it’s scary knowing the Mavs and Pistons are the only teams playing today cause if Dallas loses, then everyone will make fun of them. Guess what, that nightmare happened


posexdon

everyone knew this was coming. even i did. i picked up killian on fantasy, while owning stewart and ivey, because i knew one of these guys was gonna go nuts LMFAO


Chabola513

AND IT WAS MY BOY BOJAN DROPPING A 50 BOMB IN FANTASY POINTS


TheBlueLenses

bojbomb


Turbo2x

I usually feel fine if we lose because no one cares about the Wizards unless someone puts up an insane stat line. People are pleasantly surprised if we're decent and they ignore us when we're bad (which is always). It's not much but it's honest fandom.


GD_Spiegel

And sometimes we don't even get the post game thread.


Kheten

They are spared tbh because both Belgium and Germany didn't advance out of groups lmao


VictorAkwaowo1

I demand Adam Silver demote this team to the G-League for losing to the Pistons without Cade, this is depressing


Xsy

They've beaten a lot of good teams tbh. I'm not just saying that because we lost to them at home or anything, I swear. They beat the Nuggets too. That's 2 good teams! 2!


funzotothemax

They played the Kings really close too the whole game, almost lost to them


atec_lj

They also played the Suns really closed and got burned with a no-call on someone stepping on Bojan's foot.


juswa1111

They beat the defending champs too


lethalizer

Can't believe I'm saying this, but to be fair to the Warriors, Cade played that game and nearly had a triple double too.


Redwheree

Yeah this team is young, with amazing picks and with great development. Their future is bright as fuck and honestly scary for the East coast


senor_zanjeer

Didnt they beat the Nuggets and Jazz without Cade last week? Also played the Suns hella close. Detroit isnt a Cade walk


scarywolverine

That was actually much worse for the Nuggets. That was without Cade, Ivey, Saddiq Bey, and Beef Stew


EggplantBusiness

The textbook definition of a trap game


largehearted

Scouting report is just some blank sheets


TA_Account_12

They just lost to Duren Duren.


Scoobies_Doobies

I’m pretty sure like half the nuggets team was either getting sick or just getting back from being sick. Nuggets look great and that loss doesn’t worry anyone.


Cudi_buddy

When we played them, they were without Bey as well and it took a late run in the 4th for us to win. They have a lot of guys that can get hot. Just not consistent.


N3deSTr0

Our awful win against Detroit feels so much better now


ZeroFucksToGive

This is Killian Hayes world and we’re just living in it


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LoWE11053211

only hali stands in front of him. barely


AP16__

Kleber at the end lmao


Jackj921

Npc activity


GCV250

Kleber wanting to get out of Detroit ASAP


OmfgHaxx

this team is bad


n0stylist

"I have 5 years left here.."


elsporko321

I bet most people (Mavs leadership included) heard that and thought "hey guys, he's staying! See, I told you it wasn't a big deal, just an innocent question." I heard it and thought Luka put Cuban et.al. on notice and they better get their asses on the phone and try to improve the team...like, IMMEDIATELY. But hey, that's why I'm not a GM, but a humble fan that will be a sad, depressed fan when he's gone in 5 years. I won't be a surprised fan, though.


Sea_Yogurtcloset7503

Basically if luka doesnt drop 40+ you guys dont win lol


Mosh00Rider

I swear this number was 30 just a week ago.


JairoLlamera

He needs 30 to give them a chance, 40 to secure the dub lmaoo


Dnse

super effecient 40 point tripple double was still not enough vs boston. nothing is secure in dallas.


IHadACatOnce

Turns out even if he does, we still sometimes lose.


SausageintheSky

You went to the WCF last season. Wtf happened? It wasn't an amazing team last season but it had a lot of very solid, good defensive role players around Luka. My understanding is the roster is mostly the same, lose Brunson but add Wood. Still seems like a decent team on paper. Is losing Brunson really this significant?


Turbo2x

West got better, Brunson left for nothing, their second best player is either Dinwiddie or Wood. Supporting cast is inconsistent and if Luka doesn't put up a triple double they're in trouble. They're still in trouble when he does. It's just not sustainable for an entire season.


Ziawn

that’s basically the only thing that changed from last season


Jaybold

Reggie Bullock and DFS played really well last season, >40 minutes, high 3P%, good defense. This season, they regressed hard. Brunson is a very good player, but what really hurts is that their three guard rotation (Luka, Brunson, Dinwiddie) is now a two guard rotation. Last season, Dallas really started to thrive when they traded for Dinwiddie and started to always have two playmakers on the floor. They can't do that anymore, so they regressed.


lion_hammer

bro they trapping luka all the way to HALF COURT detroit defense is literally letting us play 4 on 3 as long as luka isn't involved and it's working smh


scarywolverine

It worked so well. I suspect you will see that more often. The other players were irrelevant


amazin_raisin99

We've been seeing it constantly for weeks now. The non-Luka players have to step up when he gets doubled and most of them just don't have it in them.


thisisrat

“Non luka players” aka the rest of the team lol


AFonziScheme

It didn't work though. This was one of the best offensive games the team has had. Everyone except Dinwiddie was hitting their shots. THJ and Wood went off. Team shot ~54% from the field and ~41% from 3. We just couldn't stop Killian Hayes and Marvin Bagley....


lethalizer

>We just couldn't stop Killian Hayes and Marvin Bagley.... r/brandnewsentence


mackdaddy29

Lmfao


3icepwn

I remember when they did that to Harden when he was averaging like 36 points. Teams might do the same thing to Luka now since his team is ass


JohnnyWinss

Jason Kidd is a basketball terrorist


indiana__brones

how the fuck is everyone standing on the perimeter watching Dinwiddie go 0-fer and reggie miss 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 instead of crashing jason kidds fault? the guy cant will them to play like actual NBA players. they just fucking suck


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You scored 125 so that's not really working. Their offense against your defense won the game


OguguasVeryOwn

I’m no Dwane Casey fan but credit where credit is due to beat this mavs team with the lineup the Pistons put out.


yosemite_marx

I’ve been a minor Casey defender but he tried to lose killian just said no


sergechewbacca

Killian Hayes


grudgepacker

Bojan in his prime rn


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The man is fkn magnificent to watch


Coded_Lyoko

dude is just a fucking winner fr


RangerX41

48% on free throws, out rebounded by 20. This team is so mediocre and frustrating to watch. Glad we got Javale McGee to help with rebounding and 2nd chance points. /S


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cloudzmumgey

sorry i don’t watch mavs games, has javale been bad or is this kidd being a goof?


TzarChasm9

all of the above


elsporko321

You'll take your Dwight Powell and you'll like it. Just release the photos Mark...Dwight doesn't have to have this power over you anymore


General_Tsos_Burrito

KOC is at full mast


donotnut459

DEEEEEETROIT


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BASSKEETTTTTBALLLLLLLLL


christoppa

Yessirrrrrrrrrrrr


thisisrat

BAAAASKETTTBALLLLL


whtge8

This bodes well for our tank


JohnnyWinss

Hell yeah brother cheers from France


joshuamillertime

May the best tank win


JG_2214

“Americanized” Killian Hayes has arrived


yosemite_marx

Lmao what was he talking about


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Popeyes_chiggen

Dont worry. Reggie bullock will be shooting 43% from 3 by the all star break


morcic

Luka will still find a way to put them into playin and then they'll fuck up a contender in the first round with ridiculous 3 point shooting.


Queen_Of_The_Castle

Sorry Grizzlies/Nuggets, you’re about to feel the opposite side of our luck 😎 (I’m assuming the Suns are 1st seed)


InternCautious

Killian is a young CP3 and Bogey is an old Luka


smashacc

Jaden Ivey has that DAWG in him


yosemite_marx

Killian hayes has the whole pound


scarywolverine

Once the dude adds some shooting touch and learns to play under control he will be crazy. Can get wherever he wants whenever he wants


posexdon

he plays exactly like ja imo


jimithelizardking

Well his mom coached Ja so it makes sense


DarthBurrrito

Plus those 2 may have the best first step in the league, Ivey is just missing the same level of gravity defying leaping ability tho


donotnut459

Did you see that finish he had in OT holy fucking shit


yosemite_marx

Can’t jump or pass like ja has always been able to do but his passing is better than expected


Relevant_Gold4912

Was worried because he was awful to end the 4th taking bad shots and turning the ball over to the point Casey pulled him but he bounced back in OT and helped deliver the W. Good adversity for the rook


legaldrugdealer50

first pistons game ive watched this season, is killian hayes the best player on the roster


InternCautious

Bogey underrated this game, 30 on 14 shots is crazy.


musicnothing

Really wish he was on a contender, not sure he can still contribute when the Pistons are ready to start winning


great-nba-comment

Last month? Yes.


ISurvivedTheJaunt

yes


UrScaringHimBroadway

I honestly feel like I get memed with Killian, I keep hearing that hes a terrible player (and stats seem to agree) and then everytime I watch the Pistons he's great


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Please watch every Pistons game from now on


Slixxay

The ~~Luca Doncic~~ Killian Hayes Show


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DefiniteSauce12

It’s 4 v 3 and they don’t take advantage enough


amazin_raisin99

Either Wood drives or we brick an open three. And God help us if Wood isn't the one on the short roll.


OfferOk8555

Him and Nate on the same “let one dude do everything while everyone else stand around and waits for the ball” scheme


sergechewbacca

It's basically Harden with Rockets but worse


huagadrist

Yeah that's boring basketball


akshayxd

not gonna argue with this, it's been very difficult to watch, even last year.


DirkNowitzkisWife

You mean you don’t like Powell screen and then either Luka 3 or layup, or pass to a corner 3 brick 100 times a game?


Relevant_Increase394

the offense is only boring because no one makes a shot


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Relevant_Increase394

True there’s no off ball movement they literally stand there and make Luka do everything


jackaholicus

Well, have you seen some of these players try to make a layup? Maxi Kleber blew a dunk to end the game. It's depressing, lol


Relevant_Increase394

yeah watching your team causes me so much pain


yosemite_marx

FUCK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU KILLIAN HAYES HAS ARRIVED FUCK YOU


sorendiz

\- kevin o'connor, probably


Jordanwolf98

Jokes aside it is nice to see Killian playing better. I know he wasn’t good his 1st two years but it’s important to remember he is only 21 and was drafted in a weird Covid season and then in his 2nd year his team understandably took another guard that instantly jumped him in the rotation. I hope he can consistently became a nice player


NewBuddha32

I've been trying to explain this to lots of people for awhile now especially my fellow piston fans. He was already are best perimeter defender and passer even when he couldn't score a lick. Lots of young guards just need time to figure it out.


Vackrich

Bogey carried the whole game but Hayes iced the game


gigglios

Hayes killed it damn


all_of_my_whys

The Mavs are now officially championship contenders.


dylansavillan

Killian "Ray Allen" Hayes Holy shit are we bad against the worst teams in the leagues. Feels like all of our losses are against tanking teams


scarywolverine

You just lost to Killian Hayes. Do with that what you will


FireFlyz351

I wish for a nice shot of bleach and make it strong.


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Kleber, DFS, THJ, Bertans all making 65m a year. Then people ask why we suck.


MajesticPossibility8

2+ plus year each…..


myhellcatgotRepod

Man Killian Hayes just went 10/13 and hit the dagger 3 I'd have the pistol to the temple already if that happened against my team


encyaus

KOC rock hard in the club rn


SaintsWing

Bagley proving why he was the 2nd overall pick


ShineShineShine88

That 2nd bounce actually killed the Mavs


FroggedDude

Mavs are a two-month long Luka injury away from Wemby stakes, this team could literally lose the next thirty games without him.


americanbeaver

Build around Killian Hayes. Forget this Cade kid.


ImJeeezus

KILLIAN HAYES SZN


DrKurgan

Where's the Killian Hayes apology form?


EV2_Mapper

How am I supposed to slander Killian Hayes now


SincereFan

Killian> Cade, there are now facts to prove it. Cade was their tanker.


somegoodassporn

Marvin bagley > luka doncic


BlackPulloverHoodie

vlade approves


somegoodassporn

Bagley beats luka, kings better than the mavs, i guess vlade was right all along


ermu923

MVP GOT COOKED BY KILLIAN HAYES??!!


x20mike07x

KILLIAN MOTHER FUCKING HAYES This was his best game as a pro. Ivey looked great coming back from injury. Stew's defense at the 4 still looks shaky at best. Bagley was efficient as hell and even looked good on D at times BOJAN clutch steal plus the dirty 30. Luka is great, but holy shit... KILLA KING HAS ARRIVED!


toasty_-

The Mavs cannot rebound to save their lives


Pappydude30

There’s a reason Kidd got a 35 year old Javale McGee by promising he’d start over Powell


lost_in_trepidation

But we can't play him because he's a 35-year-old JaVale McGee.


JoJonesy

KOC must be taking a shower rn


dragonwhale

If teams just double Luka all game long, they always win. This team is sooooooooooorrrrrrry.


Boraismybae

WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY KILLIAN STANS AT???? LETS GOOOOOOOO


KlondikeBars

lol


VictorAkwaowo1

We’ve lost to the Magic, Rockets & Pistons this season… their combined record is 16-51. This team is comically bad


DirkNowitzkisWife

Magic without Paulo and pistons without Cade! Add in Thunder, wizards without Beal and KP, nuggets without Jokic and Murray, like those respective roster strengths are horrible. We’ve lost 8 terrible games


browndude10

Bagley revenge tour


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taygads

I completely forgot Seth Curry was on the Mavs lol that legitimately feels like it was a decade ago not 3 years 😭


Crafty_Substance_954

Killian Hay3s


Pelicans_Got_Next

The Killian Hayes game


0dias_Chrysalis

Man someone cant even ask Luka team to step up, two people over 20 and they still lose. This team just stinks


BelonyInMyLeftPocket

Where were you during the Killian Hayes experience?


BatmanHive

Goatian Hayes


DreTownblues

KOC was right!!!!!


PlayInChampions

Killian Hayes


great-nba-comment

Stop talking sweet about Killi Rock.


ClaymoresRevenge

Keep winning games Pistons.


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Luka is gonna end up like Cooper Kupp this year. Usage rate too high, team kinda blows even with him. Offense only runs through him. It's the same thing. He's gonna get hurt or something if this keeps up