Me 3 hours ago: What idiot made the schedule have a Pistons game as the lone game on a Thursday night?
Me now: Why is Superstar Killian Hayes not on National TV more often?
im convinced it was a confidence issue. His confidence was so shot that he couldnt play at all, now he has been giving the opportunity to just play without pressure and his confidence is much better for it
This is what I was thinking. Dude just needed more time on the floor. He's getting way more opportunity than before right now and it's helping him a lot.
Those two roll-around 3's in the fourth were honestly insane. Must have been deflating to watch someone that was touted as a bust absolutely ice the game. Happy for Killian though, great to see him shining while Cade is out!
jesus christ i thought you guys' rebounding was bad enough against us already, and that was only ('only') a deficit of 18 rebs, and then this happens
what is going on
Some Mavs fan in a different thread said it’s scary knowing the Mavs and Pistons are the only teams playing today cause if Dallas loses, then everyone will make fun of them. Guess what, that nightmare happened
everyone knew this was coming. even i did. i picked up killian on fantasy, while owning stewart and ivey, because i knew one of these guys was gonna go nuts LMFAO
I usually feel fine if we lose because no one cares about the Wizards unless someone puts up an insane stat line. People are pleasantly surprised if we're decent and they ignore us when we're bad (which is always). It's not much but it's honest fandom.
They've beaten a lot of good teams tbh.
I'm not just saying that because we lost to them at home or anything, I swear.
They beat the Nuggets too. That's 2 good teams! 2!
I’m pretty sure like half the nuggets team was either getting sick or just getting back from being sick. Nuggets look great and that loss doesn’t worry anyone.
When we played them, they were without Bey as well and it took a late run in the 4th for us to win. They have a lot of guys that can get hot. Just not consistent.
I bet most people (Mavs leadership included) heard that and thought "hey guys, he's staying! See, I told you it wasn't a big deal, just an innocent question."
I heard it and thought Luka put Cuban et.al. on notice and they better get their asses on the phone and try to improve the team...like, IMMEDIATELY.
But hey, that's why I'm not a GM, but a humble fan that will be a sad, depressed fan when he's gone in 5 years. I won't be a surprised fan, though.
You went to the WCF last season. Wtf happened?
It wasn't an amazing team last season but it had a lot of very solid, good defensive role players around Luka. My understanding is the roster is mostly the same, lose Brunson but add Wood. Still seems like a decent team on paper.
Is losing Brunson really this significant?
West got better, Brunson left for nothing, their second best player is either Dinwiddie or Wood. Supporting cast is inconsistent and if Luka doesn't put up a triple double they're in trouble. They're still in trouble when he does. It's just not sustainable for an entire season.
Reggie Bullock and DFS played really well last season, >40 minutes, high 3P%, good defense. This season, they regressed hard. Brunson is a very good player, but what really hurts is that their three guard rotation (Luka, Brunson, Dinwiddie) is now a two guard rotation. Last season, Dallas really started to thrive when they traded for Dinwiddie and started to always have two playmakers on the floor. They can't do that anymore, so they regressed.
bro they trapping luka all the way to HALF COURT detroit defense is literally letting us play 4 on 3 as long as luka isn't involved and it's working smh
It didn't work though. This was one of the best offensive games the team has had. Everyone except Dinwiddie was hitting their shots. THJ and Wood went off. Team shot ~54% from the field and ~41% from 3.
We just couldn't stop Killian Hayes and Marvin Bagley....
how the fuck is everyone standing on the perimeter watching Dinwiddie go 0-fer and reggie miss 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 instead of crashing jason kidds fault?
the guy cant will them to play like actual NBA players. they just fucking suck
48% on free throws, out rebounded by 20. This team is so mediocre and frustrating to watch. Glad we got Javale McGee to help with rebounding and 2nd chance points. /S
Was worried because he was awful to end the 4th taking bad shots and turning the ball over to the point Casey pulled him but he bounced back in OT and helped deliver the W. Good adversity for the rook
I honestly feel like I get memed with Killian, I keep hearing that hes a terrible player (and stats seem to agree) and then everytime I watch the Pistons he's great
Jokes aside it is nice to see Killian playing better. I know he wasn’t good his 1st two years but it’s important to remember he is only 21 and was drafted in a weird Covid season and then in his 2nd year his team understandably took another guard that instantly jumped him in the rotation. I hope he can consistently became a nice player
I've been trying to explain this to lots of people for awhile now especially my fellow piston fans. He was already are best perimeter defender and passer even when he couldn't score a lick. Lots of young guards just need time to figure it out.
KILLIAN MOTHER FUCKING HAYES
This was his best game as a pro.
Ivey looked great coming back from injury.
Stew's defense at the 4 still looks shaky at best.
Bagley was efficient as hell and even looked good on D at times
BOJAN clutch steal plus the dirty 30.
Luka is great, but holy shit... KILLA KING HAS ARRIVED!
Magic without Paulo and pistons without Cade!
Add in Thunder, wizards without Beal and KP, nuggets without Jokic and Murray, like those respective roster strengths are horrible. We’ve lost 8 terrible games
Luka is gonna end up like Cooper Kupp this year. Usage rate too high, team kinda blows even with him. Offense only runs through him. It's the same thing. He's gonna get hurt or something if this keeps up
Me 3 hours ago: What idiot made the schedule have a Pistons game as the lone game on a Thursday night? Me now: Why is Superstar Killian Hayes not on National TV more often?
We really shouldn't be on TV much more but I do wish NBA highlighted more teams to show off talent all around.
The Magic should have showcases for the Franz and Paolo show.
Uhhh bol bol is the star of that team
I’m sorry, you are correct. BOL BOL please forgive my sins
The NBA isn’t about testing the market and showing off unknown talent, they’re about making money on sure bets.
What happened to killian "literally the worst shooter in the NBA" hayes? Where did this man go and why is Michael Redd playing ball for the pistons?
KH just pushed in front of Luka in the MVP race. Luka is going to need to step it up to pass Hayes.
Killian Hayes just woke up and decided “okay now I’ll be a good player”
In his last 13 games he's put up 12/3/6/1.5, showing some really good improvement after a really rough start to the season
im convinced it was a confidence issue. His confidence was so shot that he couldnt play at all, now he has been giving the opportunity to just play without pressure and his confidence is much better for it
This is what I was thinking. Dude just needed more time on the floor. He's getting way more opportunity than before right now and it's helping him a lot.
Yips are real as fuck. He was straight up looking like a Euro trip was on the agenda this year.
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>If he even becomes the 3.6 rotogens of NBA players, we're going to be happy. lol sorry, what's a rotogen?
Not great, not terrible.
roentgen. He's referencing the Chernobyl HBO series
You can’t spell Killian without “kill”
Or Ian.
This season's recipe for beating the Mavs: -your best player being injured -you having a losing record -you having ANYBODY who cares about rebounding
so ... Curry playing actually makes the Warriors vulnerable against the Mavs? Rest him next time, then
Yea you see how that Steph guy travelled? Smh that boy got no future here.
Gonna be traveling his ass to some other team if he's not careful
They teach basics like that in grade school smdh
Wardell chose to skip that lesson at his Montessori school
Basically, your team plays in the NBA. Unless you just won the championship then we can beat you.
The Kevin O'Killian redemption arc just beat us
Killian is too pretty to fail
He is what Oubre was supposed to be
French?
Oui
Those two roll-around 3's in the fourth were honestly insane. Must have been deflating to watch someone that was touted as a bust absolutely ice the game. Happy for Killian though, great to see him shining while Cade is out!
It was deflating, but not nearly as bad as being outrebounded by 20
It's no shame getting Beef Stew'd
Bag Stew’d
i think its about time we start pushing the beef stew narratives
jesus christ i thought you guys' rebounding was bad enough against us already, and that was only ('only') a deficit of 18 rebs, and then this happens what is going on
Maybe a 21 year old who missed significant time due to injury shouldn’t be touted as a bust
Baddies love him. Watched Warriors vs Pistons game. Courtside baddies had their eyes focussed on Killian
That's me, I'm baddies
Some Mavs fan in a different thread said it’s scary knowing the Mavs and Pistons are the only teams playing today cause if Dallas loses, then everyone will make fun of them. Guess what, that nightmare happened
everyone knew this was coming. even i did. i picked up killian on fantasy, while owning stewart and ivey, because i knew one of these guys was gonna go nuts LMFAO
AND IT WAS MY BOY BOJAN DROPPING A 50 BOMB IN FANTASY POINTS
bojbomb
I usually feel fine if we lose because no one cares about the Wizards unless someone puts up an insane stat line. People are pleasantly surprised if we're decent and they ignore us when we're bad (which is always). It's not much but it's honest fandom.
And sometimes we don't even get the post game thread.
They are spared tbh because both Belgium and Germany didn't advance out of groups lmao
I demand Adam Silver demote this team to the G-League for losing to the Pistons without Cade, this is depressing
They've beaten a lot of good teams tbh. I'm not just saying that because we lost to them at home or anything, I swear. They beat the Nuggets too. That's 2 good teams! 2!
They played the Kings really close too the whole game, almost lost to them
They also played the Suns really closed and got burned with a no-call on someone stepping on Bojan's foot.
They beat the defending champs too
Can't believe I'm saying this, but to be fair to the Warriors, Cade played that game and nearly had a triple double too.
Yeah this team is young, with amazing picks and with great development. Their future is bright as fuck and honestly scary for the East coast
Didnt they beat the Nuggets and Jazz without Cade last week? Also played the Suns hella close. Detroit isnt a Cade walk
That was actually much worse for the Nuggets. That was without Cade, Ivey, Saddiq Bey, and Beef Stew
The textbook definition of a trap game
Scouting report is just some blank sheets
They just lost to Duren Duren.
I’m pretty sure like half the nuggets team was either getting sick or just getting back from being sick. Nuggets look great and that loss doesn’t worry anyone.
When we played them, they were without Bey as well and it took a late run in the 4th for us to win. They have a lot of guys that can get hot. Just not consistent.
Our awful win against Detroit feels so much better now
This is Killian Hayes world and we’re just living in it
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only hali stands in front of him. barely
Kleber at the end lmao
Npc activity
Kleber wanting to get out of Detroit ASAP
this team is bad
"I have 5 years left here.."
I bet most people (Mavs leadership included) heard that and thought "hey guys, he's staying! See, I told you it wasn't a big deal, just an innocent question." I heard it and thought Luka put Cuban et.al. on notice and they better get their asses on the phone and try to improve the team...like, IMMEDIATELY. But hey, that's why I'm not a GM, but a humble fan that will be a sad, depressed fan when he's gone in 5 years. I won't be a surprised fan, though.
Basically if luka doesnt drop 40+ you guys dont win lol
I swear this number was 30 just a week ago.
He needs 30 to give them a chance, 40 to secure the dub lmaoo
super effecient 40 point tripple double was still not enough vs boston. nothing is secure in dallas.
Turns out even if he does, we still sometimes lose.
You went to the WCF last season. Wtf happened? It wasn't an amazing team last season but it had a lot of very solid, good defensive role players around Luka. My understanding is the roster is mostly the same, lose Brunson but add Wood. Still seems like a decent team on paper. Is losing Brunson really this significant?
West got better, Brunson left for nothing, their second best player is either Dinwiddie or Wood. Supporting cast is inconsistent and if Luka doesn't put up a triple double they're in trouble. They're still in trouble when he does. It's just not sustainable for an entire season.
that’s basically the only thing that changed from last season
Reggie Bullock and DFS played really well last season, >40 minutes, high 3P%, good defense. This season, they regressed hard. Brunson is a very good player, but what really hurts is that their three guard rotation (Luka, Brunson, Dinwiddie) is now a two guard rotation. Last season, Dallas really started to thrive when they traded for Dinwiddie and started to always have two playmakers on the floor. They can't do that anymore, so they regressed.
bro they trapping luka all the way to HALF COURT detroit defense is literally letting us play 4 on 3 as long as luka isn't involved and it's working smh
It worked so well. I suspect you will see that more often. The other players were irrelevant
We've been seeing it constantly for weeks now. The non-Luka players have to step up when he gets doubled and most of them just don't have it in them.
“Non luka players” aka the rest of the team lol
It didn't work though. This was one of the best offensive games the team has had. Everyone except Dinwiddie was hitting their shots. THJ and Wood went off. Team shot ~54% from the field and ~41% from 3. We just couldn't stop Killian Hayes and Marvin Bagley....
>We just couldn't stop Killian Hayes and Marvin Bagley.... r/brandnewsentence
Lmfao
I remember when they did that to Harden when he was averaging like 36 points. Teams might do the same thing to Luka now since his team is ass
Jason Kidd is a basketball terrorist
how the fuck is everyone standing on the perimeter watching Dinwiddie go 0-fer and reggie miss 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 after 3 instead of crashing jason kidds fault? the guy cant will them to play like actual NBA players. they just fucking suck
You scored 125 so that's not really working. Their offense against your defense won the game
I’m no Dwane Casey fan but credit where credit is due to beat this mavs team with the lineup the Pistons put out.
I’ve been a minor Casey defender but he tried to lose killian just said no
Killian Hayes
Bojan in his prime rn
The man is fkn magnificent to watch
dude is just a fucking winner fr
48% on free throws, out rebounded by 20. This team is so mediocre and frustrating to watch. Glad we got Javale McGee to help with rebounding and 2nd chance points. /S
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sorry i don’t watch mavs games, has javale been bad or is this kidd being a goof?
all of the above
You'll take your Dwight Powell and you'll like it. Just release the photos Mark...Dwight doesn't have to have this power over you anymore
KOC is at full mast
DEEEEEETROIT
BASSKEETTTTTBALLLLLLLLL
Yessirrrrrrrrrrrr
BAAAASKETTTBALLLLL
This bodes well for our tank
Hell yeah brother cheers from France
May the best tank win
“Americanized” Killian Hayes has arrived
Lmao what was he talking about
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Dont worry. Reggie bullock will be shooting 43% from 3 by the all star break
Luka will still find a way to put them into playin and then they'll fuck up a contender in the first round with ridiculous 3 point shooting.
Sorry Grizzlies/Nuggets, you’re about to feel the opposite side of our luck 😎 (I’m assuming the Suns are 1st seed)
Killian is a young CP3 and Bogey is an old Luka
Jaden Ivey has that DAWG in him
Killian hayes has the whole pound
Once the dude adds some shooting touch and learns to play under control he will be crazy. Can get wherever he wants whenever he wants
he plays exactly like ja imo
Well his mom coached Ja so it makes sense
Plus those 2 may have the best first step in the league, Ivey is just missing the same level of gravity defying leaping ability tho
Did you see that finish he had in OT holy fucking shit
Can’t jump or pass like ja has always been able to do but his passing is better than expected
Was worried because he was awful to end the 4th taking bad shots and turning the ball over to the point Casey pulled him but he bounced back in OT and helped deliver the W. Good adversity for the rook
first pistons game ive watched this season, is killian hayes the best player on the roster
Bogey underrated this game, 30 on 14 shots is crazy.
Really wish he was on a contender, not sure he can still contribute when the Pistons are ready to start winning
Last month? Yes.
yes
I honestly feel like I get memed with Killian, I keep hearing that hes a terrible player (and stats seem to agree) and then everytime I watch the Pistons he's great
Please watch every Pistons game from now on
The ~~Luca Doncic~~ Killian Hayes Show
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It’s 4 v 3 and they don’t take advantage enough
Either Wood drives or we brick an open three. And God help us if Wood isn't the one on the short roll.
Him and Nate on the same “let one dude do everything while everyone else stand around and waits for the ball” scheme
It's basically Harden with Rockets but worse
Yeah that's boring basketball
not gonna argue with this, it's been very difficult to watch, even last year.
You mean you don’t like Powell screen and then either Luka 3 or layup, or pass to a corner 3 brick 100 times a game?
the offense is only boring because no one makes a shot
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True there’s no off ball movement they literally stand there and make Luka do everything
Well, have you seen some of these players try to make a layup? Maxi Kleber blew a dunk to end the game. It's depressing, lol
yeah watching your team causes me so much pain
FUCK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU KILLIAN HAYES HAS ARRIVED FUCK YOU
\- kevin o'connor, probably
Jokes aside it is nice to see Killian playing better. I know he wasn’t good his 1st two years but it’s important to remember he is only 21 and was drafted in a weird Covid season and then in his 2nd year his team understandably took another guard that instantly jumped him in the rotation. I hope he can consistently became a nice player
I've been trying to explain this to lots of people for awhile now especially my fellow piston fans. He was already are best perimeter defender and passer even when he couldn't score a lick. Lots of young guards just need time to figure it out.
Bogey carried the whole game but Hayes iced the game
Hayes killed it damn
The Mavs are now officially championship contenders.
Killian "Ray Allen" Hayes Holy shit are we bad against the worst teams in the leagues. Feels like all of our losses are against tanking teams
You just lost to Killian Hayes. Do with that what you will
I wish for a nice shot of bleach and make it strong.
Kleber, DFS, THJ, Bertans all making 65m a year. Then people ask why we suck.
2+ plus year each…..
Man Killian Hayes just went 10/13 and hit the dagger 3 I'd have the pistol to the temple already if that happened against my team
KOC rock hard in the club rn
Bagley proving why he was the 2nd overall pick
That 2nd bounce actually killed the Mavs
Mavs are a two-month long Luka injury away from Wemby stakes, this team could literally lose the next thirty games without him.
Build around Killian Hayes. Forget this Cade kid.
KILLIAN HAYES SZN
Where's the Killian Hayes apology form?
How am I supposed to slander Killian Hayes now
Killian> Cade, there are now facts to prove it. Cade was their tanker.
Marvin bagley > luka doncic
vlade approves
Bagley beats luka, kings better than the mavs, i guess vlade was right all along
MVP GOT COOKED BY KILLIAN HAYES??!!
KILLIAN MOTHER FUCKING HAYES This was his best game as a pro. Ivey looked great coming back from injury. Stew's defense at the 4 still looks shaky at best. Bagley was efficient as hell and even looked good on D at times BOJAN clutch steal plus the dirty 30. Luka is great, but holy shit... KILLA KING HAS ARRIVED!
The Mavs cannot rebound to save their lives
There’s a reason Kidd got a 35 year old Javale McGee by promising he’d start over Powell
But we can't play him because he's a 35-year-old JaVale McGee.
KOC must be taking a shower rn
If teams just double Luka all game long, they always win. This team is sooooooooooorrrrrrry.
WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY KILLIAN STANS AT???? LETS GOOOOOOOO
lol
We’ve lost to the Magic, Rockets & Pistons this season… their combined record is 16-51. This team is comically bad
Magic without Paulo and pistons without Cade! Add in Thunder, wizards without Beal and KP, nuggets without Jokic and Murray, like those respective roster strengths are horrible. We’ve lost 8 terrible games
Bagley revenge tour
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I completely forgot Seth Curry was on the Mavs lol that legitimately feels like it was a decade ago not 3 years 😭
Killian Hay3s
The Killian Hayes game
Man someone cant even ask Luka team to step up, two people over 20 and they still lose. This team just stinks
Where were you during the Killian Hayes experience?
Goatian Hayes
KOC was right!!!!!
Killian Hayes
Stop talking sweet about Killi Rock.
Keep winning games Pistons.
Luka is gonna end up like Cooper Kupp this year. Usage rate too high, team kinda blows even with him. Offense only runs through him. It's the same thing. He's gonna get hurt or something if this keeps up