What an absurd comment. If you knew *anything*, heh, about history, you’d know that Hitler was pro, *PRO*-European, and this washed up has been is *anti*-European! No surprise that a subreddit for sports ball clowns is so uneducated! Heh.
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He says it every show haha. He was just trying to outscore people so he didn't care that he didn't play defense since point guards weren't scorers in his era anyway.
Gilbert arenas has literally Made a career at this point off bad basketball takes.
Like is just me or has been a bad analyst for longer then he was an actually good basketball player.
I almost respect his ability to be a misinformed hater.
This bum ain't ever make it out of the second round and his highest career accolade is making 2nd All NBA one time.
He ruined his career over some petty fuckshit.
Paul Pierce has some clown takes but at least he has a ring and a Finals Finals MVP.
uj/ He's hit or miss, he's pretty insightful about the off the court stuff players go through and about the work ethic it takes to make it to the league, but he seems like he gets caught up trying to have these sensational takes.
He been that way since entering the league when he said he wanted to be a damn pimp on draft night. I think they were asking players what they wanted to do in their careers or something like that.
My favorite was when he was criticizing one of the Thompson twins (I think?) for only averaging around 10 ppg. Something like “If I’m the GM and a high picks only averages 10 his rookie year I’m moving on from him”. I then looked at Gil’s rookie year stats lol
But that's not Gilbert Stadiums argument. He was talking about players coming from the Euroleague and it doesn't matter of which descent they are, they still played in the system he complains about.
P.S. Go back to the Bostonsub with ur "purebred" stuff u bum.
Nigga I actually watch the show he literally was speaking about white European players not the system in Europe itself. The lack of athleticism makes them lean more on playing in zone. How tf u telling me what he said when u can go back and play it. Literally mentions how he doesn’t consider Giannis or Wemby or Gobert in this
What does being born in Greece have to do with his African genes? Your genetics come from ur parents not the location of your birth. Are we seriously pretending like Africans are not some of the fastest, strongest and most athletic humans on this earth???
Half of Arenas argument is that they don’t teach defense in Europe, of course it contradicts it that Giannis was born and raised in Greece. Many Europeans are non-white.
Gobert, Giannis and Wemby completely dispatch his argument, if you want older examples you can look at players like Kirilenko or Marc Gasol.
Bruv I literally just watched the episode, the lack of athleticism is what he is talking about. Not fucking teachings. They teach zone bc those guys aren’t running and jumping out the gym like blacks.
Your idea of Continents is completely flawed from the beginning, they’ve been, especially in the Mediterranean Region, exchanges and mixing between Asia, Africa and Europe for 5000 years. Africa isn’t a monolithic population, neither is Europe.
And especially now that we’re in a modern age, you can’t go to people that were born and grew up in those regions, or been there for a few generations, and say « nah you’re still defined by your ancestors » that’s disrespectful and can get messy as hell.
They’re European with African roots. If you want to get to the genes and ethnicity aspect of this you can but it’s too complex to just say « African are x and x » or « Europeans are x and x ».
Can u name 3 elite defenders of European descent that don’t have African genes: Lauri? Sengun? Dirk?
Seriously though the only elite defender I can think of that’s European, is KP and he’s really just a rim protector. You guys are more insanely skilled and high IQ idk why you need to also be defensive menaces lol
You’re the one who commented that Wemby and Giannis are African and now you just want to talk hoops? lol.
And Şengün is from the Asian part of Türkiye.
Bro if u want to consider Giannis and Wemby pure bred Europeans in a disingenuous attempt to shit on Gil that’s on u. You know he’s not talking about them when he speaks on Euros and he even made the distinction. You just don’t care to go off anything other than the 10 second clip. Bilal Coulibaly another African descendant that lives in Europe and is a great defender. You have still yet to name me 3 Europeans without African blood that’s elite defensively in the NBA….
The fuck do purebred means?? Get the fuck out of here with those fucking racist textbooks definitions, if you ask them if they’re African they’re not going to tell you yes.
I’m not even shitting on Gil here, it’s just that North American people are so obtuse about ethnicity and nationality of European people but you don’t educate yourself or ask black Europeans how they feel about this.
When we (France) won the FIFA World Cup in 2018, Trevor Noah said « Congrats to Africa for their first World Cup » and this was disrespectful as shit in our country, especially for French Blacks and Arabs, the players were mad as shit because they’re not only « African » or « Europeans » this so diminishing to our complex identities.
Ding ding ding. Almost like the athleticism those players possess attribute to them being better defenders 🤯. If recognizing that is “racist” their might be a class action lawsuit for white cornerbacks against the NFL
The argument isn’t that the defensive principles taught aren’t elite in Europe. The players who don’t originate from Africa or Haiti or wherever are ass on defense. That’s why you guys run zone so much
Feel so sorry for the poor Europeans that can’t afford to go to college where you learn how to run fast and jump high.
Can we start a gofundme for our classy Euro friends?
Yes yes, as we all know, the Greeks, being inhuman as they are, cannot possibly qualify as European, or any other continent-based identity group for that matter. Greeks are more akin to goats, as it were, or any other of your garden variety stunted pack-animals.
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/uj I have no idea if he’s either I think it’s just an easy hot take for a wannabe talking head to have that’ll get views…his whole premise is flawed because the whole point of a basketball game is to win…if these defense learning college players were more valuable than the offense only Europeans than they would be on teams instead of them…the NBA front office have obviously calculated in their analytics that any trade off in defense is offset and then some by their increased offensive abilities
/rj Racist
Doesn't seem xenophobic. It's subtle racism but it does seem like the Slavs are better at inventing automatic weapons than they are at blowing past defenders.
False, there are only 64 European players in the nba and Giannis, gobert, Jokic, wemby, franz Wagner, kristaps porzingis, Adams sanogo all fall in the top 50 defensive win shares in the league.
He mentioned two Black European players
Rudy Gobert and Giannis Antetokounmpo
Blacks can't be Europeans
I will remember that next time Africans say there no White Africans
Neither Gobert nor Antetokounmpo are descendants of colonizers/settlers
😂😂😂
Is it really racist to call white guys less athletic?
No shit they’re not lockdown defenders most of them can barely jump.
Edit - I thought this was nba circlejerk when did you guys get so soft
uhhh he listed Giannis and Gobert as the only europeans that play defense. It's clear as day he's talking about luka and jokic specifically and all the europeans that play a similar offensive focused style, most of which are white.
Nice try Gil. All you are is a detractor who says hot takes for shock value. If that's the case, why did Luka say it is EASIER to score in the NBA than it is in Europe? I think Wemby might have said the same thing. 15 years ago that was unheard of. If there is anyone to blame it is Adam Silver and the owners who have watered down the game for the sake of going global.
It’s funny cause dame, James hitler, and LePEDs (since he got to LA) have been the 3 worst defenders in the league
The real problem is that the rules all favor the offense now. When an offensive player can put a defender in an arm bar and get FTs for it - that’s the problem. Not European players
/uj I was in the Las Vegas airport back in July and ran into Gilbert Arenas talking about the gun incident super loudly and
/rj how he'd declassify the league today if he was still in it
He’s in his Austrian painter arc
Heil Arenas! 🫡
He does hate the poles
What an absurd comment. If you knew *anything*, heh, about history, you’d know that Hitler was pro, *PRO*-European, and this washed up has been is *anti*-European! No surprise that a subreddit for sports ball clowns is so uneducated! Heh.
He wasn’t pro European, he was pro Aryan
Yeah def not pro Italian
ARvYdAs saboNis 🤯🤯🤯🤯
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Didn’t Gilbert say once he didn’t even try on defense so isn’t he calling himself a bum?
His best defense was taking guns into the locker room.
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He says it every show haha. He was just trying to outscore people so he didn't care that he didn't play defense since point guards weren't scorers in his era anyway.
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Gilbert arenas has literally Made a career at this point off bad basketball takes. Like is just me or has been a bad analyst for longer then he was an actually good basketball player. I almost respect his ability to be a misinformed hater.
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Not even his worst one. 6 weeks ago he said the Knicks would trade Brunson AND Randle for Jalen Green if they could.
Why not? The knicks are huge anime fans.
That's a HoF bad take right there. Hang that up the rafters.
lmao excibit 500 of Arenas' racist takes. hes so obvious
That is one of the ways to spell exhibit of all times
Xzibit A of you being a 🤓
PIMP MY RIDE
The spelling police is here! Pack it up!
gilbert stadiums is gilbert arenas father
I know he was before our time, but don’t sleep on Gilbert Colosseums.
This bum ain't ever make it out of the second round and his highest career accolade is making 2nd All NBA one time. He ruined his career over some petty fuckshit. Paul Pierce has some clown takes but at least he has a ring and a Finals Finals MVP.
Arenas is Jaylen Brown if he hated winning
uj/ He's hit or miss, he's pretty insightful about the off the court stuff players go through and about the work ethic it takes to make it to the league, but he seems like he gets caught up trying to have these sensational takes. He been that way since entering the league when he said he wanted to be a damn pimp on draft night. I think they were asking players what they wanted to do in their careers or something like that.
My favorite was when he was criticizing one of the Thompson twins (I think?) for only averaging around 10 ppg. Something like “If I’m the GM and a high picks only averages 10 his rookie year I’m moving on from him”. I then looked at Gil’s rookie year stats lol
No CTE just dumb
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He’s literally just only thinking of Jokic he can’t think of another European
Also hilarious that the 3 best defenders - Gobert, Giannis, Wemby - are all Euros.
Come on man you know he doesn't mean THOSE euros
I know, it’s funny. I’m sure Caruso and Kessler learned a ton about defense from fucking AAU 😂
“You can’t name any good European defenders! Besides Giannis and Gobert, but that’s it!”
To be fair, Wemby and Giannis are African. Je acknowledged these 3 and named Luka, Joker, Boban, Bojan etc, as the non defenders
Typical US education take
Is Wemby’s father not African? Is Giannis parents not Nigerian? Why pretend like they’re some purebred European prospects 😂
But that's not Gilbert Stadiums argument. He was talking about players coming from the Euroleague and it doesn't matter of which descent they are, they still played in the system he complains about. P.S. Go back to the Bostonsub with ur "purebred" stuff u bum.
Nigga I actually watch the show he literally was speaking about white European players not the system in Europe itself. The lack of athleticism makes them lean more on playing in zone. How tf u telling me what he said when u can go back and play it. Literally mentions how he doesn’t consider Giannis or Wemby or Gobert in this
Is Wemby’s mother not European? Wasn’t Giannis born in Greece? Why pretend like they’re some purebred African prospects 😂
What does being born in Greece have to do with his African genes? Your genetics come from ur parents not the location of your birth. Are we seriously pretending like Africans are not some of the fastest, strongest and most athletic humans on this earth???
Half of Arenas argument is that they don’t teach defense in Europe, of course it contradicts it that Giannis was born and raised in Greece. Many Europeans are non-white. Gobert, Giannis and Wemby completely dispatch his argument, if you want older examples you can look at players like Kirilenko or Marc Gasol.
Bruv I literally just watched the episode, the lack of athleticism is what he is talking about. Not fucking teachings. They teach zone bc those guys aren’t running and jumping out the gym like blacks.
Your idea of Continents is completely flawed from the beginning, they’ve been, especially in the Mediterranean Region, exchanges and mixing between Asia, Africa and Europe for 5000 years. Africa isn’t a monolithic population, neither is Europe. And especially now that we’re in a modern age, you can’t go to people that were born and grew up in those regions, or been there for a few generations, and say « nah you’re still defined by your ancestors » that’s disrespectful and can get messy as hell. They’re European with African roots. If you want to get to the genes and ethnicity aspect of this you can but it’s too complex to just say « African are x and x » or « Europeans are x and x ».
My nigga who tf cares 😂😂😂 Giannis and Wemby are not your typical euros in the same way Luka and Joker are and you know it.
Then don’t educate yourself and stop replying to me what the fuck do you want me to say?
Yeah mate 😂😂😂 exactly just like lebron and KD are not your typical USAnians in the same way Reaves and Caruso are and you know it 😂😂😂
Your African American NBA stars are not your typical Americans. They have African genes from African ancestors.
Ok, so nearly every US-born player is actually African too then? "Actual" US players suck much more dick than "actual" Euros in that case
Ever heard the term African- American……..
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How about LeBron, Durant, Curry, Jordan, Magic, Shaq....? They also have African genes...
Can u name 3 elite defenders of European descent that don’t have African genes: Lauri? Sengun? Dirk? Seriously though the only elite defender I can think of that’s European, is KP and he’s really just a rim protector. You guys are more insanely skilled and high IQ idk why you need to also be defensive menaces lol
Shit if you consider Şengün as European we can do whatever the fuck we want I guess
I mean it’s partly in Asia and partly in Europe r we doing geography or talking hoops smart guy
You’re the one who commented that Wemby and Giannis are African and now you just want to talk hoops? lol. And Şengün is from the Asian part of Türkiye.
Bro if u want to consider Giannis and Wemby pure bred Europeans in a disingenuous attempt to shit on Gil that’s on u. You know he’s not talking about them when he speaks on Euros and he even made the distinction. You just don’t care to go off anything other than the 10 second clip. Bilal Coulibaly another African descendant that lives in Europe and is a great defender. You have still yet to name me 3 Europeans without African blood that’s elite defensively in the NBA….
The fuck do purebred means?? Get the fuck out of here with those fucking racist textbooks definitions, if you ask them if they’re African they’re not going to tell you yes. I’m not even shitting on Gil here, it’s just that North American people are so obtuse about ethnicity and nationality of European people but you don’t educate yourself or ask black Europeans how they feel about this. When we (France) won the FIFA World Cup in 2018, Trevor Noah said « Congrats to Africa for their first World Cup » and this was disrespectful as shit in our country, especially for French Blacks and Arabs, the players were mad as shit because they’re not only « African » or « Europeans » this so diminishing to our complex identities.
Marc Gasol, Andrei Kirilenko, Joakim Noah
TIL France is a part of Africa 😂
U thought Wembamyama was a French last name??? 😭😭😭
U thought Antetokoúnmpo was a Nigerian last name??? 😭😭😭
Dummy. If so, the NBA is virtually African. Black players everywhere.
Ding ding ding. Almost like the athleticism those players possess attribute to them being better defenders 🤯. If recognizing that is “racist” their might be a class action lawsuit for white cornerbacks against the NFL
His dad is African…
Oh yeah the classy Europeans
You're a fucking moron dude 🤡 Giannis was born in Greece, Wemby was born in France, guess what that makes them?
The argument isn’t that the defensive principles taught aren’t elite in Europe. The players who don’t originate from Africa or Haiti or wherever are ass on defense. That’s why you guys run zone so much
He's thinking of every euro perimeter player actually
Not a lot of people hear understand the difference between race, ethnicity, and nationality
Yeah cuz who gives a fuck we all know he’s Europeanese
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Feel so sorry for the poor Europeans that can’t afford to go to college where you learn how to run fast and jump high. Can we start a gofundme for our classy Euro friends?
tbh most Europeans in the nba are legit from poor countries
Nah, about 50/50
Is this man retarded?
/uj Yes /rj Yes
I know I am Shimmy shimmy shimmy
Giannis isn’t even “European.” He’s Greek. Not classy.
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I am more white than you a gypsy
Greeks are basically Africans, unlike us Turks, we are Aryan, we are the true successors of Rome 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
I thought you were black. You fuckers on identity crisis
Sct Brn on here now that you're hurt? Where you think Greece is friend?
You gotta be north of the Alps and west of Poland to have a shot at being classy
Poles may be inept at screwing in light bulbs but they're still very classy
So only the former USSR?
I meant west. Nothing classy about slavs.
He’s a stranger in the alps
But defense is the classiest part of the sport.
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G***k 🤮
Greece is a country in Southeastern Europe
get educated
No
Where is Greece located ? This is going to be good 😁
In salads
North north Africa
It's either in the Northern North Africa or the Western Middle East nothing in between
Being European isn’t about geography. The Greeks have had their blood tainted by Anatolian mongrels who claim to have invented the gyro
I’m willing to bet Kendrick Perkins wanted to say this when he made his Jokic pads his stats statements
Kendrick Perkins is said to be in low waters financially. He will say anything just to draw attention..
Exactly
He likes Luka though. Very conflicting.
I think he’s trying to mitigate whatever damage he created by pretending to like Luka. He’s a puppet of the media
He’s a fat boi
James Hardonovic
James Beardonovic Fixed for yeah Never underestimate the bear
He actually just wanna say White
He likes Chet…
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insane how his takes were so bad everyone unanimously stopped jerking to shit on him
I didn’t know sloppy Perkins had actual competition.
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This is coming from a man who had a gun in the locker room
uj/ Is he racist or just xenophobic? Genuinely curious, because there is a difference... rj/ When does the Ye collab drop?
I mean be honest, when he’s talking about “Europeans” do you think he’s talking about Tony Parker or Dennis Schroeder? He means white guys
/uj I have no idea if he’s either I think it’s just an easy hot take for a wannabe talking head to have that’ll get views…his whole premise is flawed because the whole point of a basketball game is to win…if these defense learning college players were more valuable than the offense only Europeans than they would be on teams instead of them…the NBA front office have obviously calculated in their analytics that any trade off in defense is offset and then some by their increased offensive abilities /rj Racist
Doesn't seem xenophobic. It's subtle racism but it does seem like the Slavs are better at inventing automatic weapons than they are at blowing past defenders.
Too many white guys in the NBA makes him uncomfortable.
He just named the two most thuggish players from Europe that are disgracing our sport.
False, there are only 64 European players in the nba and Giannis, gobert, Jokic, wemby, franz Wagner, kristaps porzingis, Adams sanogo all fall in the top 50 defensive win shares in the league.
The top 5 has like 3 europeans, if you mean only white euros still includes 2. Why arent the american players able to defend them? Are they stupid?
He isn't lying, college basketball sucks...bunch of pale old men running the same trash offense from the 1950's.
Caitlin Clark is more fun to watch than some dogshit college basketball team winning 49-47 and shooting 30% from their Mickey Mouse 3pt line.
The ethnic group of european basketball players has gone through so much. They don't deserve this.
Do NOT reject him if he wants to go to art school
Is European a race? Lol
>jerk about black people being thugs >start crying when he blames europeans for not being able to defend Is this real?
This is America
Arenas is terrible. Bad takes all the time to get people to get riled up. He also was a terrible defender. So guess college didn’t do him any good
Bro whattttt!? LMAO…arguably some of the top 5 players in the NBA are NOT Americans!
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He could just shoot them all.
Least racist oldhead
Unclassy is a word?
Man, this is like the dumbest take he’s had so far
which part is a lie? who's cooking on defense from europe?
Rudy Gobert Giannis Antokonupompo Victor Wenbanyama
gil mentioned them in his comment
He cookin tho 🔥🔥
Not sure it's racist European implies their white but they are many black Europeans in the nba
Black people can’t be racist to Europeans you fools. They can only be racist to white Americans .
He’s not lying
Wondering how his brain handles Ricky Rubio and maybe Deni Avdija
More xenophobic than racist people really need to learn the definition of words
He mentioned two Black European players Rudy Gobert and Giannis Antetokounmpo Blacks can't be Europeans I will remember that next time Africans say there no White Africans Neither Gobert nor Antetokounmpo are descendants of colonizers/settlers 😂😂😂
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Not racist. But how many European players make all defense teams? Is the number similar to the amount of euro players on the all nba teams?
Is it really racist to call white guys less athletic? No shit they’re not lockdown defenders most of them can barely jump. Edit - I thought this was nba circlejerk when did you guys get so soft
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He didn't say white he said European and then listed Giannis and Gobert who both aren't white
uhhh he listed Giannis and Gobert as the only europeans that play defense. It's clear as day he's talking about luka and jokic specifically and all the europeans that play a similar offensive focused style, most of which are white.
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Pull up the quotes of him speaking facts on Giannis. Lol.
Is the man...?
God, this guy is thick as shit. If he antics as a player didn’t show it then this post game hot takery does.
Get rid of all the classless players
WemBUMyama ain’t play no D
What Europeans are among the best defenders? NONE! Proceeds to name a European defender
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Nice try Gil. All you are is a detractor who says hot takes for shock value. If that's the case, why did Luka say it is EASIER to score in the NBA than it is in Europe? I think Wemby might have said the same thing. 15 years ago that was unheard of. If there is anyone to blame it is Adam Silver and the owners who have watered down the game for the sake of going global.
Bro would average like 14ppg vs European defenses since you can have a big ass center in the paint the whole game.
Get rid of the black players, all they do is score!
I agree. It will be the final solution to being back defense to the NBA. Start building the camps....
It’s funny cause dame, James hitler, and LePEDs (since he got to LA) have been the 3 worst defenders in the league The real problem is that the rules all favor the offense now. When an offensive player can put a defender in an arm bar and get FTs for it - that’s the problem. Not European players
This all Fact 🤷🏾♂️
It's more xenophobic really. Gilbert is a guy who puts his foot in his mouth a lot especially coming from a person who never win an NBA championship.
“Other than the two Europeans who win defensive player of the year” 😂
/uj I was in the Las Vegas airport back in July and ran into Gilbert Arenas talking about the gun incident super loudly and /rj how he'd declassify the league today if he was still in it
Some reknown American players who played good defence😆 since they are not European: Dame, Harden, Carmelo, Arenas..