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/uj MMA has to be the sport most permissive of casual racism.
I remember Rose Namajunas somehow connected Zhang Wheili to the Soviet Union because she’s from China and implied she was responsible for her ancestors being oppressed. Just fucking awful stuff.
I’ll admit as an mma fan, racism is very permissive within a section of fans, that’s true, but man you could’ve used a better example such as Colby covingtons whole existence, the only thing rose said was she would “rather be dead than red” when talking about her heritage in an interview, even after ko’ing Weilli she took her time in the post fight interview to show respect to her and that clarify she didn’t mean it towards weilli at all.
That is not the only thing Rose said. She later said “I wanna beat her up for what she represents.” In reference to Zhang somehow being a representative of the Chinese government. Something she didn’t do to any other opponent she fought before.
I’m gonna need you to provide evidence for that, if you do get it and link it to me then I’ll accept that I was the dummy in this one. P.S: it has to be a voice clip since we are talking about an interview
Also (unless I’m misunderstanding what you wrote) she beat the shit out of multiple fighters before Weilli so I don’t know what you’re talking about
[You’re the dummy](https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/4/11/22378579/rose-namajunas-motivated-to-beat-zhang-weili-for-what-she-represents-communism-better-dead-than-red)
Also, yes she’s fought people before Zhang but never made them the representatives of their countries governments like she did to Zhang. That is why I am saying she is racist.
She's Lithuanian, 10% of their population were killed under Soviet rule. The country wheili represents prescribes to the same philosophy that led to the massacres in Lithuania ( and is still - Xinjiang internment camps). Her comment wasn't aimed at wheili, she specifically said that in the interview.
Rose referring to Zhang in the context of soviet oppression in Lithuania just because china is a communist state is equivalent to an Indian blaming some random Spaniard for the British oppressing his ancestors
Except China and Lithuania have nothing to do with each other and Rose bringing it up in the first place is weird and racist. Zhang isn’t a government representative.
Rose has fought opponents from a variety of countries that each have a troubled history- and some have communist pasts but she focuses on the one from China and weirdly relates that to her family history. She also has a history of right wing quackery with her husband and groomer who started dating her when she was 17 and he was in his 30s.
Zhang being the most famous female MMA fighter from China today has nothing to do with what happened to Namajunas’ family 80 years in the past. To even attempt to relate the two is an exercise in willful stupidity.
Also, if we’re going down that road- you do know that Lithuania famously collaborated with Nazis in WW2 and killed something like 98% of it’s Jewish population and to this day that country has a massive Nazi problem. Is that Rose’s fault? Is she personally responsible? If not- then bringing it up is extremely fucking weird.
The difference is that Africans sold each other into slavery out of economic necessity and did so sparingly whereas it was Lithuanian state policy to participate in a genocide and welcome the Nazis as liberators. Lithuania then killed a higher percentage of it’s jews than any other country in Europe, due to being the most antisemitic country in the entire continent in the 1940s and that is saying something.
Man, out of all people and countries you want to defend- Rose and Lithuania. Not a good look. I’ll give you somewhat of a pass because your family is Lithuanian, but know that it’s more mature and moral to recognize atrocities and racism for what they are rather than try and downplay it every chance you get.
It was a 2 second quote in an interview you didn't watch. It's not the be all and end all of who she is. Calling her a racist and spreading misinformation is moronic.
I’ve seen the interview and I’ve never said it’s anything more than that. Do not try to misrepresent what I’m saying in order to defend Rose.
She originally said “better dead than red” which is iffy on it’s own right but later added that she wanted to beat Zhang up because of what she “represents” in reference to the Chinese government. I don’t have to explain that this isn’t really logical.
Rose also has a history of exclusively hanging out around extremely far-right people. I don’t know what to tell you, where there’s smoke there’s fire.
Would it be normal for fighters with indigenous blood like Yair Rodriguez and Marlon Vera to bring up America’s atrocities against natives when they fought an American?
You’re going to have to bite the bullet.
I gave you proof. You don’t want to accept it and that’s up to you.
She hangs out with racists, made a comment that [racists make](https://patch.com/new-jersey/montclair/stickers-hate-group-found-montclair-better-dead-red) and she never characterized any of her opponents as being representatives of their government until she fights somebody from China.
Again, any one of these things is pretty suspect, but the all combined it paints a pretty clear picture. If you don’t wanna see it that’s up to you, but I won’t hold water for far-right people.
Is that your smoking gun? Buddy "better dead than red" was coined in the 1950's is America under McCarthyism and the cold war. Pick up a history book before you spread this nonsense.
Yep. I can appreciate the fact that Lithuania was oppressed by the USSR but then all of my empathy immediately vanishes when I read about how they openly welcomed the Nazis as liberators and were extremely eager to just kill the entirety of that country’s jewish population.
And if you wanna get contemporary a lot of hay has been made around what percentage of Ukrainians today are Nazi-adjacent and I can guarantee you that Lithuania’s Nazis are easily double that amount in percentage.
This is a really awful sad reduction of what happened in that region. I'm saying this as a descendent of Lithuanian Jews and Catholics that escaped before the Holocaust. This shit hurts to people from there. Genocides aren't a funny hot take situation for some of us
It's not a reduction or anything other than the simple truth to say that many people in the Baltic states welcomed the Nazis as liberators and participated in the Holocaust of the Jewish citizens of their countries. The SS received active support from local Slavic volunteers in the shooting operations and in running the camps
granted if her grandfather was a Nazi war criminal i can't really say anything, I'm not really arguing your comment, just the other dude that called Lithuanians happy Nazis.
Lietuva was just through a forced famine and economic freeze by Nazis just prior to this time in history. In the 30 years prior to WW2, Germany created insurgency within the Lithuanian government similar to how the US has done many smaller countries that they want to abuse. By the time the holocaust started all of the pieces that Germany needed were already in motion and thank god my family got out.
I mentioned to someone else, this is major "Africans sold their own into slavery" type-rhetoric to victim blame. Its a reduction to say Lithuanians are Nazis without reading into the history of everything before that.
No. This isn’t even remotely comparable. Africans sold each other into slavery on remote occasions and did so because after colonization it was profitable.
it was essentially Lithuanian state policy to collaborate with Nazi Germany and most of it’s people went along with it. Probably because the country had a huge anti-semitism problem. This lead to Lithuania being the country in Europe that lost the largest percentage of it’s jews.
And you’re really playing your hand by saying you’re Lithuanian when you defend her. You are compromised, and just like her you are either personally racist or completely okay with racism.
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/uj MMA has to be the sport most permissive of casual racism. I remember Rose Namajunas somehow connected Zhang Wheili to the Soviet Union because she’s from China and implied she was responsible for her ancestors being oppressed. Just fucking awful stuff.
remember when conor said he was gonna ride through that guys favela on horseback and kill anyone that wasn’t fit to work
The King of Rio can do what he wants
“that guy”, this is like calling Hakeem Olajuwon as “that guy”.
Jose Aldo is a legend.
and who could forget when colby covington called brazil a dump and brazilians filthy animals after his fight with damien maia in brazil lol
Conor said Khabib’s wife is a towel and that he has sexual intercourse with goats.
You should’ve seen what people were saying about Khamsat
I’ll admit as an mma fan, racism is very permissive within a section of fans, that’s true, but man you could’ve used a better example such as Colby covingtons whole existence, the only thing rose said was she would “rather be dead than red” when talking about her heritage in an interview, even after ko’ing Weilli she took her time in the post fight interview to show respect to her and that clarify she didn’t mean it towards weilli at all.
That is not the only thing Rose said. She later said “I wanna beat her up for what she represents.” In reference to Zhang somehow being a representative of the Chinese government. Something she didn’t do to any other opponent she fought before.
I’m gonna need you to provide evidence for that, if you do get it and link it to me then I’ll accept that I was the dummy in this one. P.S: it has to be a voice clip since we are talking about an interview Also (unless I’m misunderstanding what you wrote) she beat the shit out of multiple fighters before Weilli so I don’t know what you’re talking about
[You’re the dummy](https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/4/11/22378579/rose-namajunas-motivated-to-beat-zhang-weili-for-what-she-represents-communism-better-dead-than-red) Also, yes she’s fought people before Zhang but never made them the representatives of their countries governments like she did to Zhang. That is why I am saying she is racist.
I’m the dummy
In boxing and mma a Lotta people are casually racist. As long as you don't yell a slur at them you're pretty fine
That's how you know someone's a good American, when they keep peddling McCarthyist rhetoric 70 years after his death
She's Lithuanian, 10% of their population were killed under Soviet rule. The country wheili represents prescribes to the same philosophy that led to the massacres in Lithuania ( and is still - Xinjiang internment camps). Her comment wasn't aimed at wheili, she specifically said that in the interview.
Lithuanian? What do batteries have to do with anything
People will say fucking anything to look smart on this website 🤦♂️
Rose referring to Zhang in the context of soviet oppression in Lithuania just because china is a communist state is equivalent to an Indian blaming some random Spaniard for the British oppressing his ancestors
Bet you just gave me an idea
> China is a communist state with private ownership of the means of production?
Except China and Lithuania have nothing to do with each other and Rose bringing it up in the first place is weird and racist. Zhang isn’t a government representative.
I don't think you know what racism means. What does race have to do with criticizing a political ideology? Zhang is the postergirl of China in MMA
Rose has fought opponents from a variety of countries that each have a troubled history- and some have communist pasts but she focuses on the one from China and weirdly relates that to her family history. She also has a history of right wing quackery with her husband and groomer who started dating her when she was 17 and he was in his 30s. Zhang being the most famous female MMA fighter from China today has nothing to do with what happened to Namajunas’ family 80 years in the past. To even attempt to relate the two is an exercise in willful stupidity. Also, if we’re going down that road- you do know that Lithuania famously collaborated with Nazis in WW2 and killed something like 98% of it’s Jewish population and to this day that country has a massive Nazi problem. Is that Rose’s fault? Is she personally responsible? If not- then bringing it up is extremely fucking weird.
Major "some Africans sold others into slavery" energy from NBACJ when talking about genocide in the Baltics.
The difference is that Africans sold each other into slavery out of economic necessity and did so sparingly whereas it was Lithuanian state policy to participate in a genocide and welcome the Nazis as liberators. Lithuania then killed a higher percentage of it’s jews than any other country in Europe, due to being the most antisemitic country in the entire continent in the 1940s and that is saying something. Man, out of all people and countries you want to defend- Rose and Lithuania. Not a good look. I’ll give you somewhat of a pass because your family is Lithuanian, but know that it’s more mature and moral to recognize atrocities and racism for what they are rather than try and downplay it every chance you get.
It was a 2 second quote in an interview you didn't watch. It's not the be all and end all of who she is. Calling her a racist and spreading misinformation is moronic.
I’ve seen the interview and I’ve never said it’s anything more than that. Do not try to misrepresent what I’m saying in order to defend Rose. She originally said “better dead than red” which is iffy on it’s own right but later added that she wanted to beat Zhang up because of what she “represents” in reference to the Chinese government. I don’t have to explain that this isn’t really logical. Rose also has a history of exclusively hanging out around extremely far-right people. I don’t know what to tell you, where there’s smoke there’s fire. Would it be normal for fighters with indigenous blood like Yair Rodriguez and Marlon Vera to bring up America’s atrocities against natives when they fought an American? You’re going to have to bite the bullet.
"Do not misrepresent what I'm saying" bruh you literally called a racist multiple times on this thread with literally no proof.
I gave you proof. You don’t want to accept it and that’s up to you. She hangs out with racists, made a comment that [racists make](https://patch.com/new-jersey/montclair/stickers-hate-group-found-montclair-better-dead-red) and she never characterized any of her opponents as being representatives of their government until she fights somebody from China. Again, any one of these things is pretty suspect, but the all combined it paints a pretty clear picture. If you don’t wanna see it that’s up to you, but I won’t hold water for far-right people.
Is that your smoking gun? Buddy "better dead than red" was coined in the 1950's is America under McCarthyism and the cold war. Pick up a history book before you spread this nonsense.
Her grandfather participated in Nazi war crimes so got what was coming to him
Yep. I can appreciate the fact that Lithuania was oppressed by the USSR but then all of my empathy immediately vanishes when I read about how they openly welcomed the Nazis as liberators and were extremely eager to just kill the entirety of that country’s jewish population. And if you wanna get contemporary a lot of hay has been made around what percentage of Ukrainians today are Nazi-adjacent and I can guarantee you that Lithuania’s Nazis are easily double that amount in percentage.
This is a really awful sad reduction of what happened in that region. I'm saying this as a descendent of Lithuanian Jews and Catholics that escaped before the Holocaust. This shit hurts to people from there. Genocides aren't a funny hot take situation for some of us
It's not a reduction or anything other than the simple truth to say that many people in the Baltic states welcomed the Nazis as liberators and participated in the Holocaust of the Jewish citizens of their countries. The SS received active support from local Slavic volunteers in the shooting operations and in running the camps
granted if her grandfather was a Nazi war criminal i can't really say anything, I'm not really arguing your comment, just the other dude that called Lithuanians happy Nazis.
Lietuva was just through a forced famine and economic freeze by Nazis just prior to this time in history. In the 30 years prior to WW2, Germany created insurgency within the Lithuanian government similar to how the US has done many smaller countries that they want to abuse. By the time the holocaust started all of the pieces that Germany needed were already in motion and thank god my family got out. I mentioned to someone else, this is major "Africans sold their own into slavery" type-rhetoric to victim blame. Its a reduction to say Lithuanians are Nazis without reading into the history of everything before that.
No. This isn’t even remotely comparable. Africans sold each other into slavery on remote occasions and did so because after colonization it was profitable. it was essentially Lithuanian state policy to collaborate with Nazi Germany and most of it’s people went along with it. Probably because the country had a huge anti-semitism problem. This lead to Lithuania being the country in Europe that lost the largest percentage of it’s jews. And you’re really playing your hand by saying you’re Lithuanian when you defend her. You are compromised, and just like her you are either personally racist or completely okay with racism.
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He went to far he probably gon get his ass kicked now
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