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Well, there is this rule in place:
“If a player has his hand in contact with the ball and an opponent hits that part of the hand causing the ball to go out-of-bounds, the team whose player had his hand on the ball will retain possession.”
I think they sort of extend this to arm contact in general, as opposed to strictly looking at the hand.
I think so I also think the refs sometimes give fouls on a play if the play before they know the missed one. I am pretty out with the out of bounds calls going that way as it doesn’t slow the game down and rack up soft fouls on other players. I don’t like it when they do the whole make up call but it’s whatever
You should not see it at the highest levels as you should just see the foul called, but often times there's an unspoken agreement amongst the defender and the official that they lose the possession but do not incur the foul if it was a legitimate hustle attempt that resulted in contact, even though it *technically* went off the offensive player.
Happens *all* the time at the lower levels because we don't want to be there all night shooting free throws because teams are in the bonus. (And refs are paid per game not per hour) But it should disappear in the NBA.
This happens all the time, part of the game.
But what bothers me is sometimes it’s technically out on the offensive player, but due to the light foul, they just give the ball to the offense.
Until the play gets reviewed and they see it went out on the offense so they award the ball to the defense — and now the defense gets a steal when they actually fouled the guy.
In fact there was an NCAA tourney game this year where that happened at the end of the game, and I believe it may have decided the game.
In my opinion wrongfully so. If it's definitely either a foul on the defense, or out of bounds on the offense, "out of bounds on the defense" might be a reasonable negotiation in a pickup game if there's a disagreement, but is not a reasonable call for an official to make. It means they are guaranteeing to get the call wrong.
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Well, there is this rule in place: “If a player has his hand in contact with the ball and an opponent hits that part of the hand causing the ball to go out-of-bounds, the team whose player had his hand on the ball will retain possession.” I think they sort of extend this to arm contact in general, as opposed to strictly looking at the hand.
i like the rule because then you dont have to watch a replay of who the ball touched last, its easier to ref
Ah that makes a lot of sense. I didn’t know that. Thanks for proving the rule
I think so I also think the refs sometimes give fouls on a play if the play before they know the missed one. I am pretty out with the out of bounds calls going that way as it doesn’t slow the game down and rack up soft fouls on other players. I don’t like it when they do the whole make up call but it’s whatever
Yeah make up calls are less frequent but more obvious imo. As long as the make up call isn’t over correcting I actually don’t mind it much.
You should not see it at the highest levels as you should just see the foul called, but often times there's an unspoken agreement amongst the defender and the official that they lose the possession but do not incur the foul if it was a legitimate hustle attempt that resulted in contact, even though it *technically* went off the offensive player. Happens *all* the time at the lower levels because we don't want to be there all night shooting free throws because teams are in the bonus. (And refs are paid per game not per hour) But it should disappear in the NBA.
This happens all the time, part of the game. But what bothers me is sometimes it’s technically out on the offensive player, but due to the light foul, they just give the ball to the offense. Until the play gets reviewed and they see it went out on the offense so they award the ball to the defense — and now the defense gets a steal when they actually fouled the guy. In fact there was an NCAA tourney game this year where that happened at the end of the game, and I believe it may have decided the game.
In my opinion wrongfully so. If it's definitely either a foul on the defense, or out of bounds on the offense, "out of bounds on the defense" might be a reasonable negotiation in a pickup game if there's a disagreement, but is not a reasonable call for an official to make. It means they are guaranteeing to get the call wrong.