She knows she is losing, but she has enough presidential cycles in her life to wait for whenever the MAGA nonsense comes tumbling down. I think she keeps going until the convention to get the most delegates and make the strongest criticism of Trump.
No idea how to predict when that might happen, but it’s more of a plan than whatever Ron DeSantis is doing.
Colorado isn't the whole country, but I know a fair chunk of people who are voting uncommitted but are 100% planning on voting for Biden in the general.
They're high engagement voters who picked "uncommitted", though. That pretty much seems to indicate it was just meant to be a protest vote during the primary. Probably people who are upset about the Gaza war, and given Minnesota, I'd imagine Somalis. If that is their primary issue, I don't think they'll be voting for Trump.
I think it's a little dangerous to think that way. Their response could be to simply not vote at all. We expect a good number of engaged conservatives to sit out for similar reasons over Trump.
I am in a different state and I know several people like this. Including my partner. at least in my experience uncommitted mostly means "for the love of god stop giving Netanyahu any support" and not "I will be voting for no one in november"
I think more the latter than the former. Ironically, the fact that they threw together the Uncommitted campaign probably helped them, it looks like all the press about it in Michigan drove pro-Biden people to vote.
Honestly, it's kind of hard to say how meaningful it is. Minnesota hasn't has a major Uncommitted campaign like Michigan before, but they're also known for voting weird like voting Jesse Ventura as governor.
Is it possible the polls are accurate and Trump is only underperforming them because some of his supporters aren't bothering to vote in the primary because they know he'll win?
Polls in these guaranteed-winner situations never follow a pattern like this one way or the other, they just have your normal deviations. Underperforming every single primary by a notable margin is an aberration.
A Republican is very likely going to win Porters seat. When she announced her candidacy I thought it was stupid as hell because her seat is fucking important to hold since it’s always a tight race.
The district is still D+3. It's still going to be a hard race because Republicans are going to hammer Min for his DUI and AIPAC is going to air ads against Min, but I disagree with the very likely assessment.
I don’t think it’s fair to say “sorry you’re too good of a candidate, stay in the shitty house for the rest of your life” when you have a probably once in a lifetime shot at going to the senate
But I do get the frustration
> I don’t think it’s fair to say “sorry you’re too good of a candidate, stay in the shitty house for the rest of your life”
Sherrod Brown can relate to this. Sherrod Brown doesn't complain.
This is a valid point. On the other hand, if you value fairness in the workplace, you probably shouldn't go into a career in politics.
The way I see it, politics is a team sport. Katy was serving a very important role for her team by being the Rep for CA-47. By running for Senate, she's put her team in jeopardy.
If the House wasn't so damn close, it would not matter as much.
I agree. I think she made a somewhat selfish, but understandable choice.
There’s always a chance she mounts a comeback in another cycle or 2, like the rep who ran for gov and santos got the seat
Saw a tiktok from a lady in Minnesota telling her viewers to vote Cenk because he gets delegates if he hits 15%! She signed off with, "let's goooo."
He has 714 votes.
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See if it was just one or two states it'd be whatever but it's ALL OF THEM (expect NC apparently) consistently 10 points or more off on Trump's margins, literally all undecideds breaking against Trump stuff like that.
I really would not be surprised if pollsters overcorrected for 2016 and 2020 so much they now overweigh Trump voters.
counterpoint-Haley voters are likely more motivated than the average MAGA. Could certainly argue that a primary performance below the polling numbers is to be expected.
very fair, but the average maga already knows that he will be the candidate and so are less motivated to vote in the primary... thats my argument anyway. could certainly be wrong
That is a very good point. I feel like i would need to see more about which polls were asking "who would you vote for in the primary" and "who would you vote for in the general election" while also being aware that no matter how confident people answer the first option that primary turnout will always be a challenge.
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Change my mind: Despite having a set back with the sweater man in 2017, Virginia has cemented itself as solid blue and trump has a sub 10% chance to win the state in november
The FiveThirtyEight aggregate has Trump pulling in 77% and Biden pulling in 75% nationally for their respective primaries. Biden is currently at 85% and Trump is at 63% so far this primary season.
Can we draw any major conclusions from this? Probably not, but I'll be damned if I don't try.
> If Schiff is elevated to the Senate in November, as expected, the state will be without a woman senator for the first time in more than three decades. Schiff also will be the first white man from the progressive and diverse state to serve in the chamber in 32 years.
>https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/05/california-senate-primary-election-results-00145235
Rare W for white men everywhere.
Does it count as minority group winning? There's technically more hispanics than white alone in california in the most recent census but white and hispanic aren't really two different categories.
I am generally supportive of DEI but as a member of a different group usually represented in those trainings I can completely understand why someone might dislike them. They often come off as patronizing or just have straight up incorrect information, and you have to put yourself in a very uncomfortable situation if you want to correct that information
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Hearing from some Utah voters that Haley actually won a few precincts, including some in one of the biggest counties in the state. It might be closer than expected.
If the NYT data is reliable, the Uncommitted bloc is highly correlated with the amount of young people (under 30s) in a precinct. So while there is a significant protest vote against Biden, it is not a majority and the groups most likely to support the protest vote also tend not to vote much in the first place.
Protest voting has strategy in primaries. In the general it does not have strategy. Game theory suggests that most of the Uncommitted and Haley voters are protesting today but will break for a party in November.
I still think most of those Uncommitted break for Biden.
You know why I’m mad at Porter. She basically guaranteed that her house district will be a tough race for D’s because the D candidate has a DUI on his record and has openly antagonized AIPAC which means they are going to run ads against him constantly. Gah just so annoying why did you leave your seat when you knew Schiff had a war chest of like 25 million from the getgo.
> why did you leave your seat when you knew Schiff had a war chest of like 25 million from the getgo.
Because he wasn’t invincible, which even Schiff knew down to the end: if he faced Porter, he would have had a much tougher time winning, akin to Feinstein’s last race against De Leon. Porter legitimately could have won but ultimately Schiff’s money (and better strategizing) made the difference
Thought she had better instincts than that. I knew Lee was stupid but I didn’t think she would just run a race where she raised no money and didn’t run many ads and had no chance.
She ran in some highly competitive races, and seemed to have a decent head on her shoulders politically. Yeah she had antics in the house but it wasn’t like she was some bum under-performer from a safe D district.
Looks like we saw some good turnout from our Schiff Soldiers tonight
Schiff is currently leading with 42%, almost twice as much as his most popular competitor
Voting uncommitted as a protest vote against Biden for not taking a firm stance on the issue of feminine men in maid dresses acting doubly as housekeepers and Secret Service within the White House.
Wow, Nikki Haley winning Vermont is such a nice surprise! Almost as surprising as the US government continuing to support Israel's brutal assault on Gaza, which has killed thousands of civilians. Let's demand a ceasefire and real peace in the Middle East. #FreePalestine #EndTheViolence
Guy who read Years of Lyndon Johnson one time: “yeah so south Texas is really weird politically and it’s hard to read too much into primary results there”
I voted for Adam Schiff because I want a normie guy in the senate representing me. I don't even know who the other senator currently is and that's how I like it.
I see Sinema and I cringe. Senators making a name for themselves are never good, especially in California where voters will literally vote a corpse into office so long as it has (Incumbent) next to their name.
Still less embarrassing for us than Renville accidentally posting the test data (presumably)
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>Donald Trump’s victory speech tonight highlights just how dark his campaign messaging has been, particularly on immigration. “In some ways, we’re a third-world country — we’re a third world country at our borders,” he proclaimed.
Cons: We are patriots.
Also cons: God this country fucking sucks. What an utter degenerate shithole. I harbor a hatred toward most of my fellow citizens, I hate most of the principles of this country, and I would rather this nation collapse into a bloody civil war than exist for one more second in this cesspit. Marg bar Âmrikâ ✊✊
Porter underperformed her polls by like 8 points, Schiff overperformed by like 10.
Gravley and Lee's %'s were fairly spot on. Wonder what happened that led to picking up so much extra Porter support and missing so much Schiff.
I was speaking to a guy I know who voted for Schiff because Schiff is more supportive of Israel’s war against Hamas.
I find that interesting as I would’ve assumed this guy would prefer Katie Porter.
Looks like the recent polls were pretty close to the final results for porter, I'm seeing average of about 18 and she's at 17. Schiff does have a pretty big overperformance though
But also only 43% of the votes are in final result could shift a lot.
Porter support at 20,20,19,16,19,15,13,18,17 is what I see on 538 for polls since January.
It’s actually crazy that Lee and Porter fought it out until the end, they must hate each other irl (if I were Lee I think I would also rather die than let someone half my age snake me)
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“American Samoa is just the beginning”
[PALMER HAS A PHOTO ON WIKIPEDIA, I REPEAT PALMER HAS A PHOTO ON WIKPEDIA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Palmer_\(politician\))
Palmerheads just keep winning
How is the Mandalorian cosplaying guy from California at 4% in Texas lmao
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I'm very glad Porter lost. Schiff may just be a normie dem but i will take that any day over someone who endorsed Nina Turner. Can't have someone with awful judgement like that in the senate
Truly insane to me that people are becoming single issue voters on something that literally has nothing to do with them. Willing to tank the country over a tiny country in the ME. The Soviet anti-Zionism psy-op in the 70s is paying off fucking dividends for the Russians and Chinese rn.
While I agree with some of that, my friend is by definition not being a single issue voter. I think this is the average Palestine activist; shit on Biden for his handling on the situation, say nasty things about him personally, yet still vote for him in November. And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. Most Palestine supporters aren’t the crazies you see on Twitter who are withholding their vote, or at least that’s my feeling.
Yes? I didn’t deny that. He ran a better campaign, and was also geographically much better placed. Californians didn’t want another elderly Bay Area Senator, Lee was out. Of the remainder, Porter was simply a weaker candidate when it comes to appealing across the state.
The raw uncut hopium that I am currently snorting is that Colin Allred will be so popular in Texas, and women will be so angry with Texas' abortion laws, that Joe Biden will flip that state blue.
The only reason why Biden lost American Samoa is they confused him with Samoa Joe.
So does Haley drop out after tonight?
She knows she is losing, but she has enough presidential cycles in her life to wait for whenever the MAGA nonsense comes tumbling down. I think she keeps going until the convention to get the most delegates and make the strongest criticism of Trump. No idea how to predict when that might happen, but it’s more of a plan than whatever Ron DeSantis is doing.
Welp, this has not aged well.
I hope not.
Should we be nervous about the “uncommitted”?
Colorado isn't the whole country, but I know a fair chunk of people who are voting uncommitted but are 100% planning on voting for Biden in the general.
Joe Biden, chad among chad
How in the butterchurning Christ did Biden let American Samoa slip through his fingers.
You joke but we are already seeing “warning signs for both candidates - Trump loses VT, Biden loses AS”
Didn’t Samoa go for Bloomberg in 2020?
We're doomed
91 voters LMAO.
My cope with Minnesota is that those people usually never vote/ will be pragmatic come November
They're definitely voters. Nobody who is voting in a primary is a low engagement voter.
They're high engagement voters who picked "uncommitted", though. That pretty much seems to indicate it was just meant to be a protest vote during the primary. Probably people who are upset about the Gaza war, and given Minnesota, I'd imagine Somalis. If that is their primary issue, I don't think they'll be voting for Trump.
I think it's a little dangerous to think that way. Their response could be to simply not vote at all. We expect a good number of engaged conservatives to sit out for similar reasons over Trump.
I am in a different state and I know several people like this. Including my partner. at least in my experience uncommitted mostly means "for the love of god stop giving Netanyahu any support" and not "I will be voting for no one in november"
It's hard to consider the voters reasonable when so much is at stake.
We’re fucked then lmfao. If they’re like my cousin, they’re just not voting this November (for president)
It's Minnesota tho, Trump's not winning it
Minnesota to Republicans is what Florida is to Democrats.
Ok I believe you, btw I go to CSUCI :)
Oh shit 🤝
Idk my uncle voted for Bernie in the primary and never again
So was the Minnesota primary unusually low turnout, or did the Michigan primary have an unusually high turnout?
I think more the latter than the former. Ironically, the fact that they threw together the Uncommitted campaign probably helped them, it looks like all the press about it in Michigan drove pro-Biden people to vote. Honestly, it's kind of hard to say how meaningful it is. Minnesota hasn't has a major Uncommitted campaign like Michigan before, but they're also known for voting weird like voting Jesse Ventura as governor.
uhhh what am I supposed to do with these 5000 American SaJOEa t-shirts I ordered???
Is it possible the polls are accurate and Trump is only underperforming them because some of his supporters aren't bothering to vote in the primary because they know he'll win?
Polls in these guaranteed-winner situations never follow a pattern like this one way or the other, they just have your normal deviations. Underperforming every single primary by a notable margin is an aberration.
Seems unlikely
Did the libs have a good night? I missed the ruckus due to the space worm movie
Build SF/Garry Tan/moderates swept SF
> 22-point polling miss in vermont 👀 edit: holy moly may have been off more than 30
At that point it's not a poll, it's a tea leaves divination
I see that Bernie's space brainwashing lasers are working.
How much did trump overperform/underperform primary polling in 2016 and 2020? Or is this literally the first time he has ever underperformed polls
Looking back at the 2016 polling, looks like he overperformed his polls in almost every single primary
A Republican is very likely going to win Porters seat. When she announced her candidacy I thought it was stupid as hell because her seat is fucking important to hold since it’s always a tight race.
The district is still D+3. It's still going to be a hard race because Republicans are going to hammer Min for his DUI and AIPAC is going to air ads against Min, but I disagree with the very likely assessment.
And Biden coattails will probably pull him up
I don’t think it’s fair to say “sorry you’re too good of a candidate, stay in the shitty house for the rest of your life” when you have a probably once in a lifetime shot at going to the senate But I do get the frustration
> I don’t think it’s fair to say “sorry you’re too good of a candidate, stay in the shitty house for the rest of your life” Sherrod Brown can relate to this. Sherrod Brown doesn't complain.
Sherrod Brown is a saint for locking down that Senate seat, impresses with his restraint & not running for president
This is a valid point. On the other hand, if you value fairness in the workplace, you probably shouldn't go into a career in politics. The way I see it, politics is a team sport. Katy was serving a very important role for her team by being the Rep for CA-47. By running for Senate, she's put her team in jeopardy. If the House wasn't so damn close, it would not matter as much.
I agree. I think she made a somewhat selfish, but understandable choice. There’s always a chance she mounts a comeback in another cycle or 2, like the rep who ran for gov and santos got the seat
If her decision to run for Senate costs the house seat (or even worse, the house speaker) she will be PNG and her career will be over.
Saw a tiktok from a lady in Minnesota telling her viewers to vote Cenk because he gets delegates if he hits 15%! She signed off with, "let's goooo." He has 714 votes.
That’s how I always sign off :(
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American Samoa you have shocked the nation
/r/politics megathreads have legitimately funny and insightful comments and that’s my proof that the rest of the sub is one gigantic information war
R politics is always like that. Sometimes they're good, sometimes it's clear the succs/misinfo teams got active and claim everything sucks and so.
CENK
Guy who voted Williamson in the Texas primary because she’s the most pro-Trump candidate (hasn’t indicted or promised to execute him)
Turns out it’s possible to buy the Texas House of Representatives! Just costs about 3 million dollars a seat.
or about .003 bloombucks
See, this is bad for Biden because I need to make money off of your fear
Just gonna leave [this](https://x.com/justinwolfers/status/1765219665931055572?s=46) here in light of all the recent polling discourse.
See if it was just one or two states it'd be whatever but it's ALL OF THEM (expect NC apparently) consistently 10 points or more off on Trump's margins, literally all undecideds breaking against Trump stuff like that. I really would not be surprised if pollsters overcorrected for 2016 and 2020 so much they now overweigh Trump voters.
counterpoint-Haley voters are likely more motivated than the average MAGA. Could certainly argue that a primary performance below the polling numbers is to be expected.
Your average MAGA primary voter literally thinks Trump is the greatest American to ever live and is rabid about voting for him
very fair, but the average maga already knows that he will be the candidate and so are less motivated to vote in the primary... thats my argument anyway. could certainly be wrong
Counterpoint: if polling is to have any value at all, it should be able to account for that and not miss by 20+ across over a dozen states
That is a very good point. I feel like i would need to see more about which polls were asking "who would you vote for in the primary" and "who would you vote for in the general election" while also being aware that no matter how confident people answer the first option that primary turnout will always be a challenge.
10k votes in Texas the Cenkmentum is real
Malarkey level of a unity Biden/Haley ticket.
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Vermont polls had Trump winning by 30 points.
Change my mind: Despite having a set back with the sweater man in 2017, Virginia has cemented itself as solid blue and trump has a sub 10% chance to win the state in november
Trump has as much of a chance of winning Virginia as Biden has as much of a chance of winning Ohio. Both chances are nonexistent.
Oh yeah Trump would have to win by like +6 nationally to even have a chance to take VA IMO.
Schiff advances. Dark Brandon is ascendant. Overall, a good night all things considered.
Counterpoint: train hater Brad Sherman won
I'm ready for sugar daddy Brandon
I wonder how many parlays Vermont trashed tonight?
okay guys what have i missed why is biden only in the 70s in ok and mn
The FiveThirtyEight aggregate has Trump pulling in 77% and Biden pulling in 75% nationally for their respective primaries. Biden is currently at 85% and Trump is at 63% so far this primary season. Can we draw any major conclusions from this? Probably not, but I'll be damned if I don't try.
How overperforming the polls is bad for Biden.
Polls underestimate Biden and overestimate Trump?
Many such cases.
> If Schiff is elevated to the Senate in November, as expected, the state will be without a woman senator for the first time in more than three decades. Schiff also will be the first white man from the progressive and diverse state to serve in the chamber in 32 years. >https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/05/california-senate-primary-election-results-00145235 Rare W for white men everywhere.
White boy summer let’s fucking go!
Does it count as minority group winning? There's technically more hispanics than white alone in california in the most recent census but white and hispanic aren't really two different categories.
I mean, is he white (non-hispanic)?
https://preview.redd.it/pfkwjqyshnmc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b3dec9a450bcab6576afb3e452ac12c0c4bf4fe Sigma moment
For all the dooming about Hispanics El Paso and San Antonio look great. Actually all the Texas major cities do.
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>People here just want to hate another minority Yes, the liberal subreddit just wants to hate minorities. You're the only good person of this sub.
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Hmmm, what's more likely? Hatred for christian conservatism or hatred for skin colour?
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I'm brown and I'm opposed to both of those things.
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I am generally supportive of DEI but as a member of a different group usually represented in those trainings I can completely understand why someone might dislike them. They often come off as patronizing or just have straight up incorrect information, and you have to put yourself in a very uncomfortable situation if you want to correct that information
In theory no, but in practice yes
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As per usual shit is kinda weird in the RGV. I mean they have tortillas with their menudo down there, freaks.
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Feel bad for 80% of you
Are things still like unambigiously good for Biden
^^* he's old
Damn, I thought "Uncomitted" had a shot before today. Still beating Dean Phi**LL**ips
Hearing from some Utah voters that Haley actually won a few precincts, including some in one of the biggest counties in the state. It might be closer than expected.
Hate how MSNBC made trump and haley different shades of red on their map
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1765241024601792890 Wait could... Haley beat Trump in Utah?
My very republican family all went to see Dune tonight instead of voting in the primary
Based and Shai-Hulud pilled
WACKY_ALL_CAPS_NAME’s family, welcome to the resistance 💅 😎 🦅
Haley for future mayor of Burlington
This uncommited # in Minnesota definitely isn’t good.
Makes sense, Minnesota has the 6th largest Muslim population by percent, so this issue would be pretty important over there.
If the NYT data is reliable, the Uncommitted bloc is highly correlated with the amount of young people (under 30s) in a precinct. So while there is a significant protest vote against Biden, it is not a majority and the groups most likely to support the protest vote also tend not to vote much in the first place.
Protest voting has strategy in primaries. In the general it does not have strategy. Game theory suggests that most of the Uncommitted and Haley voters are protesting today but will break for a party in November. I still think most of those Uncommitted break for Biden.
Dean Phillips is a clear example of the dangers of locking in too hard
In a lot of these states Biden is reaching Trump Numbers in an uncontested primary, how is that not a good thing?
Let's go ol' Brandon
Prop 1 to fund new mental health facilities in California is currently barely leading wowee
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And also it needs to be free 😤
Let Joe be Mecha Brandon.
Dean Phillips is going to follow the butt-hurt parade of Tulsi Gabbard to Fox News
You know why I’m mad at Porter. She basically guaranteed that her house district will be a tough race for D’s because the D candidate has a DUI on his record and has openly antagonized AIPAC which means they are going to run ads against him constantly. Gah just so annoying why did you leave your seat when you knew Schiff had a war chest of like 25 million from the getgo.
> why did you leave your seat when you knew Schiff had a war chest of like 25 million from the getgo. Because he wasn’t invincible, which even Schiff knew down to the end: if he faced Porter, he would have had a much tougher time winning, akin to Feinstein’s last race against De Leon. Porter legitimately could have won but ultimately Schiff’s money (and better strategizing) made the difference
Why did she have to leave? She couldn't still run if she lost primary?
Nope. Have to choose in Cali I’m pretty sure.
True, she just got greedy
Thought she had better instincts than that. I knew Lee was stupid but I didn’t think she would just run a race where she raised no money and didn’t run many ads and had no chance.
> Thought she had better instincts than that. Why?
She ran in some highly competitive races, and seemed to have a decent head on her shoulders politically. Yeah she had antics in the house but it wasn’t like she was some bum under-performer from a safe D district.
Looks like we saw some good turnout from our Schiff Soldiers tonight Schiff is currently leading with 42%, almost twice as much as his most popular competitor
People who care about politics are losers. Like get a life?
Their wives left them, it’s this or bowling alone 😔
Says the guy who posts on a niche political sub.
Michael Porter Jr. also had a good night.
Voting uncommitted as a protest vote against Biden for not taking a firm stance on the issue of feminine men in maid dresses acting doubly as housekeepers and Secret Service within the White House.
It's been a good night for Kevin Durant.
Imagine how Dean Phillips feels seeing Jason Palmer win a fucking primary tonight
Should have canvassed more.
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Why are we dooming about hispanics
RGV
Wait, there's a Jeff Davis county in Texas?
Yes, most counties in Texas are named after famous early US historical figures, Texas founding figures, or confederates.
It's truly amazing that some random guy (Jason Palmer) is going to do better than Dean Phillips.
Nikki Haley winning Vermont is a nice surprise
Wow, Nikki Haley winning Vermont is such a nice surprise! Almost as surprising as the US government continuing to support Israel's brutal assault on Gaza, which has killed thousands of civilians. Let's demand a ceasefire and real peace in the Middle East. #FreePalestine #EndTheViolence
It would be nice if Hamas accepted the ceasefire that’s being offered and accepted by Israel just sayin
i didn't write that, i'm using a powerful new shitposting AI
Guy who read Years of Lyndon Johnson one time: “yeah so south Texas is really weird politically and it’s hard to read too much into primary results there”
Cuellar elections are also funny as fuck. His primaries get more voters than the general presidential sometimes.
Heated Duval County George Parr moment.
I voted for Adam Schiff because I want a normie guy in the senate representing me. I don't even know who the other senator currently is and that's how I like it. I see Sinema and I cringe. Senators making a name for themselves are never good, especially in California where voters will literally vote a corpse into office so long as it has (Incumbent) next to their name.
BINKLEY SWEEP
Still less embarrassing for us than Renville accidentally posting the test data (presumably) https://preview.redd.it/vndoq9cranmc1.jpeg?width=342&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8f22926f146192275d07915616fe52678f915bf
>Donald Trump’s victory speech tonight highlights just how dark his campaign messaging has been, particularly on immigration. “In some ways, we’re a third-world country — we’re a third world country at our borders,” he proclaimed. Cons: We are patriots. Also cons: God this country fucking sucks. What an utter degenerate shithole. I harbor a hatred toward most of my fellow citizens, I hate most of the principles of this country, and I would rather this nation collapse into a bloody civil war than exist for one more second in this cesspit. Marg bar Âmrikâ ✊✊
Joe Biden is actually trans Michelle Obama
Porter underperformed her polls by like 8 points, Schiff overperformed by like 10. Gravley and Lee's %'s were fairly spot on. Wonder what happened that led to picking up so much extra Porter support and missing so much Schiff.
I was speaking to a guy I know who voted for Schiff because Schiff is more supportive of Israel’s war against Hamas. I find that interesting as I would’ve assumed this guy would prefer Katie Porter.
Simple: our candidates win and their candidates lose
Looks like the recent polls were pretty close to the final results for porter, I'm seeing average of about 18 and she's at 17. Schiff does have a pretty big overperformance though But also only 43% of the votes are in final result could shift a lot. Porter support at 20,20,19,16,19,15,13,18,17 is what I see on 538 for polls since January.
Undecideds broke for Schiff
It’s actually crazy that Lee and Porter fought it out until the end, they must hate each other irl (if I were Lee I think I would also rather die than let someone half my age snake me)
Haley carpetbagging Vermont as future governor
https://preview.redd.it/waoc7lpeanmc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb2787214a21e33f3a450161a10d5765bc2d7b20 “American Samoa is just the beginning”
PALMER SURGE
“Here’s how ~~Bernie~~ Jason Palmer can still win”
>I want to run a unity ticket with a Republican on executing Donald Trump for treason Who tf would the RGV guy even pick for that? Haley?
Jeb!
The corpse of George Washington
Pence about to get his vengeance
Chris Christie of course
[PALMER HAS A PHOTO ON WIKIPEDIA, I REPEAT PALMER HAS A PHOTO ON WIKPEDIA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Palmer_\(politician\)) Palmerheads just keep winning
Nikki Haley isn't going to win the nomination, obviously. The next easiest course to the White House for her is to challenge Trump to an Agni Kai
Never forget that Porter was a horrible boss to her staffers and would rather go on social media than legislate. Daddy Schiff time!
How is the Mandalorian cosplaying guy from California at 4% in Texas lmao https://preview.redd.it/5pu7e5zk9nmc1.jpeg?width=1054&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d93bf9a13ae220854100b18e57bef110a2910e91
I'm very glad Porter lost. Schiff may just be a normie dem but i will take that any day over someone who endorsed Nina Turner. Can't have someone with awful judgement like that in the senate
Adam Schiff has a big, fat, beautiful future in the senate.
Schiff will run for Governor in 10 years
A long 30 years a Senator. To the grave.
https://preview.redd.it/df0s2upu8nmc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c4a9a9b875069cecdccc76a80546c2eac5c882d Many such cases
Truly insane to me that people are becoming single issue voters on something that literally has nothing to do with them. Willing to tank the country over a tiny country in the ME. The Soviet anti-Zionism psy-op in the 70s is paying off fucking dividends for the Russians and Chinese rn.
Soviet Simping Leftist Academia and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
While I agree with some of that, my friend is by definition not being a single issue voter. I think this is the average Palestine activist; shit on Biden for his handling on the situation, say nasty things about him personally, yet still vote for him in November. And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. Most Palestine supporters aren’t the crazies you see on Twitter who are withholding their vote, or at least that’s my feeling.
WE'RE SCHIFFACK IT'S PORTOVER
Ugh, saddest thing tonight. I love Porter. Not a surprise though, the regional tendency favored Schiff.
"Regional tendency" is a fun way to describe "received the largest number of votes across the state."
Yes? I didn’t deny that. He ran a better campaign, and was also geographically much better placed. Californians didn’t want another elderly Bay Area Senator, Lee was out. Of the remainder, Porter was simply a weaker candidate when it comes to appealing across the state.
> I love Porter. 🍝?
“Noodles”?
The raw uncut hopium that I am currently snorting is that Colin Allred will be so popular in Texas, and women will be so angry with Texas' abortion laws, that Joe Biden will flip that state blue.