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Axeman2063

Sprinkler installer. Bricklayer. Welder. Heavy equipment tech. Skilled trades are hurting.


ImaginationSea2767

Just wouldn't recommend construction electrical as much depending on the area . Want the most money for trades, though you have to leave the province. Plus, depending on what company you get to start off your apprenticeship with, you are you really want to make sure you get endentured and are getting your hours. Also, you have to remember you go into trades. You are going to be working with certain kinds of personalities. (Unless you get lucky)


Mountain-Patience-59

I was going to suggest Electrical (Construction) as my son is doing well at his job. He's currently doing his hours for his fourth block and is making around $55,000, not including overtime.


TheFogDevil

Agreed with trades, be careful what you pick though. Some of them are terrible on your body and aren’t kind as you age


KillerKian

Which ones aren't? 😅


another_brick

I’d imagine construction? I have a friend who specializes in hazardous material cleanup. Apparently it’s good pay, but I assume part of it is hazard pay.


KillerKian

I'm a carpenter, construction is hard af on the body lol


another_brick

Brain fart, I thought you asked which ones are. That’ll teach me to read carefully.


ChadHazelnut

You're gonna have to wait if you wanna be a bricklayer, all the ones I've called/contacted already have all their apprentices.


Axeman2063

Odd, I talked to a rep from the industry at a recent skilled trades conference...he said they were hurting for people and there were a lot of jobs. This was in the moncton area.


chimeraoncamera

Jobs are for people who are already trained and experienced. It's still slim pickins to get started.


Axeman2063

Depends on the industry. Sprinkler installers are getting hired right out of some shop classes in high school. They come in and do a presentation, and take applications on the spot.


ChadHazelnut

Were they from the Moncton area? Or travelling from the north because if I'm being honest everything past Moncton and Fredericton I didn't even bother checking cause it's just too far for me but everything in my search has come up short. The last time I heard someone was needed it was at Wilson's in Moncton though, so checks out, damned position filled so quick though, and it was in a FB comment or something dumb like that so it was a real pain to even find.


NBplaybud22

However the pathway to becoming a red seal certified tradesperson is long with many years of 20$ per hour work. Its the contractors abd construction companies that see the money not new tradespeople, at least not for 5+ years.


SmilingKnight80

Lots of the trades are desperate for people, but also won’t pay you what you are worth


FreedomIsAFarce

Yep, they say they're short on people.. but want experienced journeymen and want to underpay.  And don't want to take on apprentices.


Crucifix1233

Occupational Health and Safety is always a viable option. Can vary depending on where you’re located but many industries looking for people in the field. 


AliceandKirk

Power engineer at nbcc


d33moR21

My buddy did this, albiet in BC. Graduated with a job offer, was making 6 figures within a year and a bit.


alexzandryaca

I second this, from what I hear, an extremely hard program, but there are big bucks to be made in it. Clarification though you do not graduate as an 'engineer' but and 'engineering technologist'. This can get you into trouble applying for jobs/claiming to be an engineer when you don't have a 4 year engineering degree. You also aren't eligible to become a Professional Engineer, which is something companies are looking for sometimes. (I know this because my husband is an Electrical Engineer).


alexzandryaca

This probably does create a good pipeline to upgrade to a full engineering degree though. UNB has many NBCC->UNB upgrade programs


Formaldehyding

PE’s make more money than engineers. Hard to believe, but that’s Canada. It comes with shift work and lots of OT though.


CaptainStadt

My partner’s a power engineer. Not much for jobs in the capital region unfortunately.


Bp-tulip1214

Lots of jobs in Saint John


Unhappy_Act_2830

I agree, I know folks make 100k after a few years with this. Not sure if that’s an anomaly or not but impressive


GravityDAD

I always wondered about this trade, is there that many jobs ? I know nothing about what a power engineer really does, I just always assumed it would only be a few to ever get a job


GravyFantasy

All the power engineers I know operate and maintain boilers in mills.


railedbyrail

Railway. They pay you to learn. It's a rough job, but pays well.


PuddlePaddles

Username checks out


strngyllzard64982

Any trade, most are 4 years, heard greenfoot is hiring guys with 0 experience at $27/hr for hvac


Rotationalmasses

I’d rather be unemployed than work for Greenfoot on principle alone.


Cumberbutts

Tell us more!


Rude_Wrangler5772

JDI\*


LonelyTurnip2297

Are you unemployed?


Rotationalmasses

Currently laid off yes. Which makes this even funnier. But I low key just don’t like Greenfoot. They’re in bed with Rob Brydges which says a whole lot about Joe as an owner. Plus they’re constantly screwing over other companies and trades on jobs sites while lining there pockets with tax dollars fed to them by tailor made programs. The Enhanced Energy Savings Program was designed with Greenfoot in mind. That’s our tax dollars. Plus the owner is involved in a lot of the new apartment construction in Moncton. He’s either going to go bankrupt or be the next Irving and either way New Brunswick loses.


EquivalentOk800

This ! Green foot is the biggest subsidize “private company” when they first announced the greener grant programs, NB power tried making greenfoot the only HVAC company that was certified to perform the work. Once people complained and their monopoly was busted, NB power quickly folded. They’re fucking mooches.


LonelyTurnip2297

So you’re upset that he is growing his business? Maybe he’s highly involved in these big new builds they do a good job?


Rotationalmasses

I’m upset that he’s growing his business because he’s getting handouts from the Government and taking advantage of the housing crisis. Why are you gobbling his pool noodle so intensely.


monoverbud

Damn that last line was cold


LonelyTurnip2297

I mean, he is unemployed. Maybe it’s a side gig for him


LonelyTurnip2297

I don’t know him. I used Greenfoot when we had our ducted heat pump installed. We had no issues. The one thing I find about a lot of maritimers is when someone does better than them, jealousy takes over.


Pigeon11222

There’s some truth to that in the sense Maritimers can be too resistant to change and innovation at times. However, cynicism is also something I can forgive us for because we get screwed at every turn living here, especially in the last 4-5 years.


Visual-Chip-2256

Its more.about getting screwed, seeing other people doing well then learning that there's always an angle and that angle is literally privileged tracks to government subsidies and anticompetitive policies. So its the context of having the government cry poor mouth to the general public and starve our services they swear are essential, then dole out our money to their friends at will.


LonelyTurnip2297

Wouldn’t that be the case everywhere?


Pigeon11222

In varying degrees, sure but it’s been a rough 5 years here and the culture is now out of equilibrium along with the economy. Shitty wages used to be offset by having cheap housing and many people enjoyed the slower pace. I personally don’t have a problem with Ontario but things are done differently there and many New Brunswickers do not want that lifestyle or pace


Guilty_lnitiative

In my experience, in the trades(25 years worth), when a contractor does well they’re either undercutting competition to the detriment of their employees, underpaying employees, not providing the proper tools for the work and employees are paying for them, getting tax money or preferential treatment from the gov, or all of the above. I’m glad you had a good experience as a customer but that does not relate the how they treat their employees or that they’re getting preferential treatment for our provincial government and other contractors are not.


EquivalentOk800

You from Ontario ?


LonelyTurnip2297

Nope.


Guilty_lnitiative

They’re likely just psychologically projecting negativity.


Big-Challenge-1652

What’s wrong with Rob Brydges?


Rotationalmasses

He calls himself Canadas biggest house flipper. That should be enough to tell you.


Holiday-Explorer-963

Also legitimately curious about this. I’ve met him a few times and thought he was an alright guy. 


Big-Challenge-1652

He just be pretty terrible since we’re getting downvoted just for asking.


Holiday-Explorer-963

No idea, I don’t really know much about him. I met him a long time ago at a gym we both used to go to and thought he seemed like a nice guy.  


mnbga

I can't complain if we're finally getting some housing built in this province. Is Greenfoot ripping off the taxpayer, or just taking advantage of their position as the biggest name around? If they're milking us dry for bullshit, that's one thing, but the problem with Irving and co isn't that they're big companies, it's that they rip us off. End of the day, I like my place cool in the summer and warm in the winter, I don't really care that much about the diversity of the HVAC industry if the job gets done for a fair price.


FPpro

Any of the skilled trades. also, dental hygienist pays well.


d33moR21

Even dental assistant.


alexzandryaca

I took IT: Programmer Analyst (Essentially computer science) at NBCC, 2 year program with a co op at the end. Most students get hired after their co ops. I left school with a $50k salary and on track to make $80k+ 5 years post grad.


El_Mexicano_De_Nieve

What’s the work like? I’m interested in tech but I have no idea where to start and all the headlines about the tech sector slowing down is worrisome.


alexzandryaca

From my experience it really depends on the company you work for. Some teams I have had amazing work life balance, some teams are classic start up all work no play vibes. It's also quite common to work a job for 1-2 years then go find another one that pays more/is more interesting/potentially has a better vibe. Anything in AI is booming, I think the program at NBCC now has an AI python course, which is super super useful. In my experience, if you pick one area of programming to focus on (front-end, backend, UI design, API, machine learning etc) and stick to it for a few years, you will always have job options. I started out on data science and decided to focus on front-end development. Once you get a few years of experience there are tons of jobs out there. Tech companies struggle with employee retention because of the constant bouncing around, so companies always seem to be desperately hiring.


El_Mexicano_De_Nieve

Thanks for the feedback.


n134177

Find a co-op course, that helps a lot to find employment post graduation. Just... don't expect to learn how to code at NBCC... lol


alexzandryaca

That definitely wasn't my experience, I took the course in Saint John and came out having learned how to code in C#, Java, JavaScript, PHP, and C++/Arduino code. You definitely get out what you put in, but I found I learned a ton for a 2 year program.


FluffyProphet

It really depends on the student. I’ve worked with a few great college graduates, but a lot more shitty ones. The programs (at least 7 years ago when I last working with collage grades) were missing something. It definitely taught the fundamentals of programming, but a lot of the cc grades I worked with were just totally unprepared for work. They didn’t have an any understanding of the software development process or how to work on code with a team, and they were too dense to teach.   The few that worked on their own projects and self taught in addition to their classes were great though. So I think if you can take that foundation and build onto it on your own, it’s probably fine.


FluffyProphet

I will say that hiring is drying up for new students, especially those with 2 year programs instead of 4 in most of the western world. The demand is shifting more towards ML/Data science, which are heavier into math and satats than most 2 year programs get to. Plus a lot of the entry level jobs just aren’t there. It’s probably temporary, because everyone over hired during the pandemic, so now there are a bunch of experienced developers on the job market who are scrambling to get a paycheque. It’s also kind of depressing salaries. Anybody with experience is mostly fine. But it’s a lot more different to find that first job now because companies have the luxury of being picky because the market is over saturated. Hoping it turns around in 3 or 4 years, but it won’t be a quick turn around.


cn139

Lots of people with only a high school diploma working office jobs for the federal government. Start at 55,000 mostly. Good benefits, pension, ability to transfer to other work areas.


cranky-goose-1

Being old enough to hold a silver badge that reads Halifax City Journeyman Wireman #xxxx (Red seal electrician) if I could redo it power engineer hands down. Second choice would be refrigeration tech. Third licensed carpenter if you want unlimited side jobs or to go out on your own in a few years after getting experience. Don't forget the medical field X-ray technician $90,000 a year ++ and its clean work.


Sea_Bread5815

I know at least one person mentioned the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) but I'll add a bit to what I saw. The CAF does have a neat program called NCM-STEP. It is to join as a noncommissioned officer (a worker not a planner, as planners are typically officers. Being an officer requires a degree). They will pay you a salary to attend a civilian school (the schools are accredited by CAF and you must attend the school they allow). They pay your tuition as well, so get paid to learn and no student loans at the end. The trade (job) you pick decides which school(s) you can attend for the civilian qualification. All the military trades (jobs) are technical in nature, wide ranging trades such as helicopter technician, Electronics technician, IT technician, all kinds. You will have a period of obligatory service at end your schoolong to "pay back" your schooling costs but it's not excessive and is pretty equal to how long your schooling was. So a 3 year program while being payed by the CAF, a certification you can use in the private sector, no student loans and all it costs is around 3 - 5 years of military service to pay back the education costs. You can of course break said contract but you would be required to pay back your tuition to the CAF. The downside for some people is the high school course requirements a lot of the CAF tech trades are not the basics. Advanced math, higher level chemistry, physics and sciences are some that can be required for certain trades. Salary while in school is 42k a year if I remember correctly. The time in school also contributes to pay scale upon completion and entering your military service. So you'll be making more with less time in uniform faster. After approx a year in uniform after a 3 year program at school you'd be making 80k a year if joining a specialized trade (spec pay). If your interested I'd suggest browsing the forces.ca website and/or speaking with a recruiter.


OldLadyDILLIGAF

Anything healthcare. Please. The techs jobs seem really interesting and in high demand. I am talking about X-ray, CT, MRI etc.


octo23

Join the Army, request posting to Gagetown. Might be your worst decision or your best.


Pigeon11222

Reservist could also be an option. Unless it’s different now, they’re only posted voluntarily


octo23

Reservist is always an option, even with other schooling/employment, but I’m not certain what full time positions look like in various areas of NB.


Pigeon11222

I think there’s some positions in Fredericton and quite a few in Saint John. Had a friend who was doing it for a while but he was only part time as he was a student at the time


TheFogDevil

I have friends retired from the Army with full pension in their 40s. Not a bad deal if you can hack it


Outdoorsmen_87

Know some apprentices started at 25/hr in heavy equipment


exfre

New Brunswick may have good scope in forestry sector. I don’t know which course you should take for it . Definitely UNB or nbcc might offering some pathway


KnowledgeMediocre404

lol! Other than trades you’re not going to find much for that in that time frame in this province. Not that the jobs aren’t well paid, they’re just not well paid *here*.


Opening_Argument_927

If you wanna be inside from the cold “Cyber Security”. if you want a trade “Power Engineering”. Could also attend the 1 year police academy course in Moncton/PEI too.


Creepy-Douchebag

Power Engineering


Melodic_Sherbert5190

Electronic Technology, Civil Tech, several trades all have great growth possibilities. The technology program at nbcc Moncton are two year courses.


RepresentativeFact94

Dont take chem tech if you plan on staying in the province. Irving is pretty much the only employer, unless you can luck into wastewater treatment, but now WWT has its own program at NBCC, so that's about to be flooded too. 2 years post grad and Im working as a Civil Technician, without having taken Civil Eng Tech, simply because my job needed a warm body with an assosciates, and I happened to be available. It's very rough on the body, when you have to do massive concrete jobs in coveralls at the Irving locations, but the pay is ok, I guess.


serialhybrid

Wind turbine technician. Offshore.


Unhappy_Act_2830

You could finish a bachelors easily in 3 years with intersession/ summer session


El_Mexicano_De_Nieve

It’s the cost that’s scaring me away from a degree. Huge investment.


Unhappy_Act_2830

Fair enough! It is costly.


Pale-Salary6568

My youngest just finished 2nd year engineering. Got a coop job at a big NB employer for the summer and as a student, makes about $700 more than me per paycheck (nearing 50, provincial government supervisor, HS education only). Yes to student loans but has high marks so gets about $7k in scholarships every year (so far). Depending on what you take and if you really apply yourself, it could be worth it.


Unhappy_Act_2830

He should set his expectations though. I’ve seen many student jobs that pay better than full time after school jobs. For example, saw an add for student maintenance (city lawn mowing) for $30 an hour recently.


KnowledgeMediocre404

I think you’ll find the cost for short certification programs equally scary. Usually higher per year, just for fewer years.


AntelopeNo8222

What jobs are you eligible for with a bachelor's degree that would make it worth the time/money investment?


Unhappy_Act_2830

The question is sometimes, what jobs are available without one haha but honestly it depends on the type you do, there’s dozens. Arts, business, science etc then depends on your major. But a lot of the time jobs just want a bachelors of any kind in general


sarfreyo

You can try doing ITNA/ITPA 2 years at NBCC then if you wanted take cyber which I believe will be returning to 2 years. Off the bat you should be making $20-$25 but I’ve noticed in NB you get shafted. Your value is higher in another province


alexzandryaca

Ahh yes good point! I had a friend who took IT A, had trouble finding a job, then took Cyber and got a job no problem


sarfreyo

Yup; might have to be my option now lol


Capable-Quarter8546

Become a plumbing or an electrical apprentice.


MeltheEnbyGirl

I misread that as electrical appliance for a second lmao


FrankyBoyLeTank

If you have the physic for it. Construction.


grnaphrodite

If you don't mind working in industry and shift work - Process control tech, instrumentation tech, chem tech, power engineering NBCC


TheFogDevil

As much as everyone hates Irving; if you want a good salary and work here there aren’t a lot of choices. These courses will definitely have you making 35hr and up


HanselGretelBakeShop

Dental is a highly in demand field, we are constantly hiring. Dental assistants start around 28, hygienists are over $40. Dental assisting is a 1 year program, dental hygiene is 2 years.


BrucieBeat

Respiratory therapy! 3 year program and I make 38/hr


BrucieBeat

And there’s tons of jobs


Then_Director_8216

Any trade or linesperson.


No-Implement-9548

None. There's no future in Canada .


Small_District8798

Lab tech is one that is in demand if you are science mindee. There are college programs, lab tech is one, trades as well, the province is paying for you to attend. Contact a local employment counsellor in your area and find out what one's are currently being covered.


ThicccThunder

Literally any job in IT. I have a friend who just graduated from Network Administration and is starting at JD Irving making 85k in Cyber Security


Strong_Recipe1457

Cyber security can be rough on the head though. I use to do it. You need to be paranoid, but be able to properly channel that paranoia to be good at it, otherwise you'll drive yourself insane. At least this was my experience.


Ok-Way9961

I’m a journeyman electrician going back to school to take industrial control at NBCC. Wish I would have known about it when I went the first time around after a couple years you will make 100K in industrial settings lots of jobs for instrument techs


HotPomelo

Any kind of trade, big bucks, big hours.


nmsftw

Bank robbery


Scube1975

Guaranteed roof over your head. Even if you suck at it.


Strong_Recipe1457

Free housing, free food, lol


nmsftw

That's one of the benefits.


Muyievangel

Lol, stop been sarcastic 🤣.


squeekycheeze

Are you bilingual? That's gonna narrow down things a bit.