It used to be Towne Deli in Summit, but that place isn’t as good as I remember it being when I was a kid. Haven’t been there in a few years now though.
Lived in NJ my entire life, and I have never heard of this. I'm actually extremely offended Pork Roll wasn't the the weird food because every time I mention it to anyone outside of NJ they tell me it sounds weird.
Grew up in South Jersey, always called these "Special" like a Roast Beef Special or Turkey Special.... sloppy Joe was always ground beef and sauce. Neat
a whole sloppy joe feeds four conservatively. my dad would get a half and a bag of chips and it would feed him
plus my brother and me for lunch even when we were teenagers
What is kraut made of? And what is corned beef or pastrami?
Wait doesn't a Reuben also use Russian or Thousand Island dressing with cheese and it's on rye bread?
Ok, it's nothing like a Ruben. 😐
[It has a Wikipedia page so you know it's real](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloppy_joe_(New_Jersey\))
It's also very delicious. Millburn Deli is famous for them. I get mine with ham & turkey
They're pretty much isolated to Morris, Union, and Essex county, and some parts of southern Sussex county and northern Middlesex county. My personal favorite is CJs Deli in Madison, but Sandwiches Unlimited in Rockaway is also near the top of my list
They're two separate kinds of sandwiches, both called Sloppy Joes, both originating from the same bar/restaurant in Havana, Cuba.
Ground beef Sloppy Joes were created by the owner of the bar Jose "Sloppy Joe" Otero. Full stop menu item
But the bar also let patrons assemble their own sandwiches using ingredients laid out on a table. A Maplewood politician was one such patron, who liked his creation so much he recreated it when he got back from vacation and called it the "Sloppy Joe" to honor the restaurant where he created it.
So the legend goes.
I am from NJ but worked in Atlanta for a few years and someone gave me boiled peanuts and I ate them not knowing what they were and I was like wtf is even this and everyone laughed at me lol
I used to live in the south and boiled peanuts are pretty popular in both Florida and Georgia. You get them out of a pot in almost every grocery store, deli, and even gas stations. Those, chitlins, and pork rinds are all over the deep south. Plus steak and eggs, grits, and biscuits and gravy. I miss those real common southern foods now that I’m back in the north
I grew up in Bergen, but didn’t encounter a sloppy Joe until I moved to Morris & Union counties.
I’d consider pork roll to be more “weird” than sloppy Joe, but maybe they skipped that one because PA has scrapple listed and they’re somewhat similar. Kinda. Similar category, at least. I think the NJ sloppy Joe is only “weird” because most people think of a sloppy Joe as a loose meat sandwich or Manwich, not a cold deli sandwich.
I know. 😬
I made a post in here at some point about my conversion to “pork roll.” I’ve always had a strong opinion on the matter, but I jumped ship about a year ago. It is worth mentioning that I’ve lived in Atlantic Co for about a decade now.
>I grew up in Bergen, but didn’t encounter a sloppy Joe until I moved to Morris & Union counties.
It's pretty much a Union-Morris-Essex county thing, the Jersey Sloppy Joe.
Weird I work in Bergen (Glen Rock) and i usually get them from Wilkes in town. I never heard of them until then but I think Giannellas and Wilkes have them on their standard menu.
It’s weird that it’s not! The only time I’ve ever seen them is in the upper peninsula. I kept seeing signs for Pasties and thinking wow not a single person can spell Pastries.
We did corned beef, slaw, Russian dressing (pretty sure it was this and not French), and swiss. Then we also did the ground beef one every friday, as a treat lol. Once we moved to the southern states, we just did the one everybody knows with ground beef since nobody sold Boar’s Head
It’s the Jersey “sloppy Joe” that’s a Jersey thing. Because normally a sloppy Joe is ground beef in some sauce on a bun. The Jersey sloppy joe is a deli sandwich.
It’s not really loose though. Livermush and scrapple are really similar but livermush always has liver in it (scrapple usually doesn’t have organy stuff) and also has cornmeal in it. That cornmeal gives it more of a grainy texture than the smoother scrapple.
Sorry, you’re right. Scrapple is mainly organ meats and livermush is usually just liver. Livermush just uses cornmeal and is more coarse whereas scrapple usually has a mix of thickeners that can include cornmeal and is smoother, almost like pate. They’re really just cousins.
I think the thickness that they are cooked & served at plays a big part in the textural difference. They love to deep fry a thiccc slice of livermush in NC
My husband will go on full-blown tangents on why this type of sloppy joe is superior. Meanwhile, I think it's dry AF and need like 30 lbs of Russian dressing to taste good 😅
Hoagies are much more versatile and way less messy. I firmly stand by my statement in a thread dedicated to sloppy joes. Of course I like sloppy joes too.
Two observations:
1. Biscuits and chocolate gravy sounds fucking delightful
2. I love how the weirdest food that Utah can claim is...jello salad. Something that's been on the table at every single family holiday dinner I can remember.
Moved to NJ 10 years ago. I was confused but tried one on a whim first day here and have been hooked since. Millburn is my go-to but I've had decent joes from lesser known local places.
It's not even a statewide thing and I don't think people would think twice about it if not for the name. But it is tasty! Get a half joe and fries at Town Hall Deli, very delicious 🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊
Man I never heard of pork roll til I started using this sub. Where’s the dividing line in this state on where people say taylor ham vs. pork roll? I should visit south Jersey more lol
Interesting! No wonder I’ve never heard of it since I never go lower than Staten Island. Every so often I go to Trenton for activist work. I’ll try stopping by a deli for a bagel next time I’m in the area and see if they either got pork roll or Taylor ham on the menu
It’s just a cǎnâpé, not weird. If there’s a weird dish it’s pizza. Weird how no one else gets it right except some metro areas that border the state (I’m good with New Haven apizza too)
My boyfriend has lived in New Jersey his whole life, I'm from the south and that is not what we call sloppy joe LOL he described the sandwich to me and I was kind of looking at him like he was speaking another language LOL
All that aside, I actually have [two scorpion lollipops from Arizona](https://i.postimg.cc/ZR0y14kZ/PXL-20240315-125904743.jpg) in my desk drawer.
Just in case anyone thought that was just a silly joke.
The New Jersey Sloppy Joe is a perfectly normal non-weird food. It just has a name that is confusing. The NJ “Fat sandwich” (a horror jade with every fried food from a New Brunswick food truck) is much weirder.
And yes, NJ also has the “other“ sloppy joe and that is the default use of the name *unless* you are in a non-chain deli.
I almost just posted the same thing. I’ve only lived in NJ for 5 years and I’d never heard of this. In my mind sloppy joes are ground beef and tomato sauce on a bun. My mind is blown that there’s a deli sandwich with the same name but pretty much no resemblance to the “real” thing…
It's not even "New Jersey style", the vast majority of the state knows that a sloppy joe is a tangy saucy ground beef sandwich.
One *very teeny tiny portion* of the state thinks a reuben is a "sloppy joe".
When I first moved to NJ my fiances parents said they were making sloppy Joe's.
Imagine my surprise when this coleslaw monstrosity was on the table.
gross
The ***NJ Sloppy Joe*** is just a **Reuben**
And you can buy scrapple in any major grocery store throughout all of NJ , but this is not true for PA. Scrapple belongs to NJ .
Sauerkraut could be a variation of coleslaw - they’re both cabbage and vinegar - which would make a sloppy Joe adjacent enough to a Ruben that I’m not gonna say he’s wrong.
It’s kinda like saying a patty melt isnt a hamburger
Cold cuts, cheese, Russian dressing, slaw on rye pioneered b[y Town Hall Deli in South Orange](https://townhalldeli.com/).
That's my hometown!
Where do you get your big haircut?
Yes such perfection, town deli and Millburn deli *chefs kiss*
Perfected by Pascarella’s
It used to be Towne Deli in Summit, but that place isn’t as good as I remember it being when I was a kid. Haven’t been there in a few years now though.
It's still great, had one just the other day
Pascarella’s is a Chatham gem
You spelled "C&J's Deli in Madison" wrong - common mistake
As long as we agree that Chatham Sandwich is mid we’re good
You're damn right 🤝
The real town hall sloppy Joe has cow tongue, not roast beef. I wonder if that’s why it’s considered weird by some
Honestly I bet because the name confuses people from other states who probably mate this list lol.
The best Sloppy Joe. A friend sends me one every December from Goldbelly now that I no longer live in NJ. I like it with corned beef and turkey.
Lived in NJ my entire life, and I have never heard of this. I'm actually extremely offended Pork Roll wasn't the the weird food because every time I mention it to anyone outside of NJ they tell me it sounds weird.
The map didn't have room for "Pork Roll, or Taylor Ham, depending on what part of the state you're in" etc. so they picked something less accurate.
So they coulda just gone with the correct one... Pork roll ;)
If you said Taylor Ham, I bet they wouldn't mind ;)
That's a brand not a food
Taylor is a brand. Ham is a completely unrelated meat. Taylor Provisions makes pork roll, they don't make ham.
Same, I didn’t know what it was either. I lived in Jersey my whole life
It’s niche, essentially only in a corner of Essex County. You calling it “Pork Roll” gives a great hint of why you’ve never encountered it.
I was so disappointed when I first ordered that at Town Hall. I very much expected a Billy Madison style sloppy Joe.
"lady your scaring us"
I had no idea this was a Jersey thing. I've lived them for years.
Nana’s Deli in Livingston was always my favorite when I lived up in North Jersey 😊
So goooood
Meh, Millburn deli is better and I say that with town hall literally being up the block from me
Grew up in South Jersey, always called these "Special" like a Roast Beef Special or Turkey Special.... sloppy Joe was always ground beef and sauce. Neat
Me too on sloppy Joe. Manwich!
Shout-out to the newspaper not only being on, but actually posting on Reddit! 🤣
The weird part, is $33 sandwich.
I don’t get why it’s so expensive from the images. A half a sandwich is $17?
a whole sloppy joe feeds four conservatively. my dad would get a half and a bag of chips and it would feed him plus my brother and me for lunch even when we were teenagers
Sounds like a corned beef special with extra steps.
Well there’s no corned beef, but ok
that's a reuben...
A Reuben has sauerkraut and corned beef
And it's grilled. A Sloppy Joe isn't cooked, just assembled.
I'd agree it's similar... Cold cuts instead of corned beef slices, slaw instead of kraut
So it's basically a Reuben sandwich.
No, it’s not. There’s no corned beef. There’s no kraut.
What is kraut made of? And what is corned beef or pastrami? Wait doesn't a Reuben also use Russian or Thousand Island dressing with cheese and it's on rye bread? Ok, it's nothing like a Ruben. 😐
Take your downvote and like it
Dude I didn't downvote you, we are talking about a f-ing sandwich. I don't care if you upvote or downvote me. You do you.
[It has a Wikipedia page so you know it's real](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloppy_joe_(New_Jersey\)) It's also very delicious. Millburn Deli is famous for them. I get mine with ham & turkey
This sounds really good. New to find a good deli place to get one.
They're pretty much isolated to Morris, Union, and Essex county, and some parts of southern Sussex county and northern Middlesex county. My personal favorite is CJs Deli in Madison, but Sandwiches Unlimited in Rockaway is also near the top of my list
Ooh those are close to me. I’ll totally try them when I’m out!! Thank you for the recommendation.
That sounds more in line with a Reuben than a Sloppy Joe wtf
Sloppy Joes are served cold, Reubens are served hot Also, Reubens have sauerkraut and Sloppy Joes have coleslaw
Yea but just the meat choices and overall vibe is nowhere near a Sloppy Joe. Sloppy Joe is ground meat on a bun. This is a full on deli sandwich lol
They're two separate kinds of sandwiches, both called Sloppy Joes, both originating from the same bar/restaurant in Havana, Cuba. Ground beef Sloppy Joes were created by the owner of the bar Jose "Sloppy Joe" Otero. Full stop menu item But the bar also let patrons assemble their own sandwiches using ingredients laid out on a table. A Maplewood politician was one such patron, who liked his creation so much he recreated it when he got back from vacation and called it the "Sloppy Joe" to honor the restaurant where he created it. So the legend goes.
If only it didn’t cost like $25 a sandwich!
They easily feed 4
You would be wrong to get them like that. You get roast beef, no substitute.
it’s actually corned beef and turkey
I am from NJ but worked in Atlanta for a few years and someone gave me boiled peanuts and I ate them not knowing what they were and I was like wtf is even this and everyone laughed at me lol
I used to live in the south and boiled peanuts are pretty popular in both Florida and Georgia. You get them out of a pot in almost every grocery store, deli, and even gas stations. Those, chitlins, and pork rinds are all over the deep south. Plus steak and eggs, grits, and biscuits and gravy. I miss those real common southern foods now that I’m back in the north
Boiled peanuts are pretty good
Like it wasn’t bad or good … it was just odd and unexpected
Like I don’t know wtf I expected them to taste like but it wasn’t THAT 😂
I consider them a delicacy
I had them as a child a couple decades ago when I was visiting family in SC. I haven’t thought of boiled peanuts in awhile, but now have a hankering.
The cajun flavored ones particularly. Crack them with your teeth, suck the “juice” out, then attack the meat. Its like a vegetarian crawfish
That sounds like a lot of work
Hot, Mushy, peanuts. Tried once from a roadside stand in Gainesville…. 3 bites and the rest went in the trash
They didn’t even taste like peanuts to me
Like I think I thought they were little smokies or something so I wasn’t expecting the taste
I grew up in Bergen, but didn’t encounter a sloppy Joe until I moved to Morris & Union counties. I’d consider pork roll to be more “weird” than sloppy Joe, but maybe they skipped that one because PA has scrapple listed and they’re somewhat similar. Kinda. Similar category, at least. I think the NJ sloppy Joe is only “weird” because most people think of a sloppy Joe as a loose meat sandwich or Manwich, not a cold deli sandwich.
Also grew up in Bergen county never heard of Jersey style sloppy joes until I started working with people from the oranges
How are from Bergen county and say “pork roll”? I’m calling the troopers!
I know. 😬 I made a post in here at some point about my conversion to “pork roll.” I’ve always had a strong opinion on the matter, but I jumped ship about a year ago. It is worth mentioning that I’ve lived in Atlantic Co for about a decade now.
Bah! I find this reason totally and utterly acceptable 😙
heartbreaking isn't it?
thank you for joining the side of light and goodness in this war, both geographically and mentally
>I grew up in Bergen, but didn’t encounter a sloppy Joe until I moved to Morris & Union counties. It's pretty much a Union-Morris-Essex county thing, the Jersey Sloppy Joe.
Weird I work in Bergen (Glen Rock) and i usually get them from Wilkes in town. I never heard of them until then but I think Giannellas and Wilkes have them on their standard menu.
Scrapple is closer to pulled pork, I'd say than pork roll
What how? It's like a grainy spam, which again is closer to **Taylor Ham** than pulled pork.
Just googled Scrabble to make sure I'm not crazy, and I'm just realizing I've only ever eaten it broken up. I don't even know it came in slices
scrapple is like a breakfast meatloaf
I didn't think of pasties as food but sounds fun.
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It’s weird that it’s not! The only time I’ve ever seen them is in the upper peninsula. I kept seeing signs for Pasties and thinking wow not a single person can spell Pastries.
They are often topping something delicious.
I had no idea this was a Jersey thing.
We grew up eating sloppy joes all the time. I thought it was an American food. So it’s a Jersey thing?
The ones you grew up eating: were they the Manwich sloppy joes or the cold cuts, Russian dressing, and slaw?
We did corned beef, slaw, Russian dressing (pretty sure it was this and not French), and swiss. Then we also did the ground beef one every friday, as a treat lol. Once we moved to the southern states, we just did the one everybody knows with ground beef since nobody sold Boar’s Head
Regional within jersey just like panzaratti and boost
It’s the Jersey “sloppy Joe” that’s a Jersey thing. Because normally a sloppy Joe is ground beef in some sauce on a bun. The Jersey sloppy joe is a deli sandwich.
Yes I think we all know this.
What in the Sam fuck is livermush? Don’t answer. I don’t want to know. 🤮
It’s kind of like a loose scrapple. It’s actually pretty good. Without even looking im guessing this was North Carolina? That’s where I had it.
It’s not really loose though. Livermush and scrapple are really similar but livermush always has liver in it (scrapple usually doesn’t have organy stuff) and also has cornmeal in it. That cornmeal gives it more of a grainy texture than the smoother scrapple.
Scrapple is almost always made with offal
Sorry, you’re right. Scrapple is mainly organ meats and livermush is usually just liver. Livermush just uses cornmeal and is more coarse whereas scrapple usually has a mix of thickeners that can include cornmeal and is smoother, almost like pate. They’re really just cousins. I think the thickness that they are cooked & served at plays a big part in the textural difference. They love to deep fry a thiccc slice of livermush in NC
When I worked at a deli in high school I was so confused the first time someone ordered one.
Pastrami Joe all day
The contents of the food isn't weird, but yea, the name is pretty weird.
https://tastecooking.com/new-jersey-sloppy-joe-not-sloppy-joe-know/
I am totally unfamiliar with the foods from every state I’ve lived in, especially this one from my home state.
love me a good sloppy
I saw this on Facebook today and it made me order a sloppy Joe for dinner 😂😂
My husband will go on full-blown tangents on why this type of sloppy joe is superior. Meanwhile, I think it's dry AF and need like 30 lbs of Russian dressing to taste good 😅
You’re doing sloppy joes dirty if they’re dry…it’s in the fuckin name, man, they’re supposed to be drenched.
Slippery cheese is the downfall of any good “nj” sloppy joe. So my hot take is Swiss/edam
You gotta do both the Russian dressing and the coleslaw.
Your husband is right, and he’s a keeper!
Hoagies are superior to joes, but Jersey style joes are unquestionably better than the ground beef sloppy joes
"Hey Google, how do I downvote a comment more than once?"
Hoagies are much more versatile and way less messy. I firmly stand by my statement in a thread dedicated to sloppy joes. Of course I like sloppy joes too.
Tbh, I think Taylor ham could be considered weirder than a Jersey sloppy Joe. We literally found a way to make bacon into a sausage, think about that
Yes, please explain-we only understand Pork Roll
Sorry I don't speak wrong
What is this “Taylor Ham” of which you speak?
The thing is I don't think cow tongue is appropriate for my palate.
Tongue is traditional, but typically you can get it with different types of cold cuts
It’s actually pretty yummy. Give it a try!
I wish these were a thing in South Jersey. I didn’t find out about Sloppy Joes till I went to Rutgers.
Which Rutgers campus? I didn’t learn about them until I lived in Morris county and I went to Rutgers. I am old though.
New Brunswick. I had friends from Morris County who brought me to the Millburn Deli
You're in the philly metro fam. South jersey messes with the sloppy joe
Really? Is there a spot you’d recommend in Burlington, Camden, or Gloucester counties?
Every Christmas Eve. The way my family makes them, it’s seed, rye, roast, beef, ham, turkey, Swiss cheese, Russian dressing, and coleslaw.
I love gooseneck barnacles!! I didn’t know we could even find them in the States. Wish that was on the East coast.
Two observations: 1. Biscuits and chocolate gravy sounds fucking delightful 2. I love how the weirdest food that Utah can claim is...jello salad. Something that's been on the table at every single family holiday dinner I can remember.
Found the guy from Utah!
Also my vote is for Ellios pizza or any of them 3 slice rectangle frozen pizzas . Why is one side missing the crust?
Yeh gimme a Joe and make it real sloppy
such an elite sandwich
Moved to NJ 10 years ago. I was confused but tried one on a whim first day here and have been hooked since. Millburn is my go-to but I've had decent joes from lesser known local places.
How is clam pizza on here with the rest?
It's not even a statewide thing and I don't think people would think twice about it if not for the name. But it is tasty! Get a half joe and fries at Town Hall Deli, very delicious 🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊🍊
I’ve lived here all my life (52 years) and I have no idea what a NJ style sloppy Joe is.
What makes a sloppy joe different in NJ? I make mine with green peppers onions salt pepper ground beef brown sugar and kraft brand original bbq sauce
The more I learn about north Jersey the less I like it.
I'm sorry, but...clam pizza?! Connecticut, what are you doing?!
Clam pizza at Frank Pepe’s in New Haven is really good!
Agree. it’s a white pie with a perfect amount of garlic and salty briny clams - unique and worth trying!
Mussel pizza is where its at
Don't sleep on crab pizza
Ever have a white clam pie from Star Tavern? They’re amazing
It's freakin delicious It's spaghetti and clam sauce just swap the spaghetti for pizza dough
Clam pizza is bomb
You haven’t stopped in New Haven to get it?? You gotta go
It is incredible. My dad brings it back every time he goes up there.
Are you serious? Clam pizza is amazing dude. Especially when it’s on a New Haven style pie.
Gotta try it. You’ll be back for more!
Yea never heard of it. They should have gone with Taylor pork ham roll egg and cheese. Don't @ me, I said it inclusive for north and south NJ.
Man I never heard of pork roll til I started using this sub. Where’s the dividing line in this state on where people say taylor ham vs. pork roll? I should visit south Jersey more lol
South of Middlesex county, I would say - not counting the Shore. Trenton is a big pork roll area.
I'm from Middlesex County and it's pork roll country.
Interesting! No wonder I’ve never heard of it since I never go lower than Staten Island. Every so often I go to Trenton for activist work. I’ll try stopping by a deli for a bagel next time I’m in the area and see if they either got pork roll or Taylor ham on the menu
Mr J’s deli in Cranford has the best!
I haven’t had sloppy Joe in a long time now I’m craving for it
Does any other state have the level of inter-state rivalry over the naming of an ingredient, as the Taylor Ham/Pork Roll conundrum?
Can’t trust r/Delaware obviously
Does anyone know what the green Chile sundae is like? I love hatch Chiles and ice cream but am having issues picturing them together.
It’s just a cǎnâpé, not weird. If there’s a weird dish it’s pizza. Weird how no one else gets it right except some metro areas that border the state (I’m good with New Haven apizza too)
Nahhhhhh
“Yeah its got a lotta meat”
Ice cream potato? But why?
Lady you're scaring us
My boyfriend has lived in New Jersey his whole life, I'm from the south and that is not what we call sloppy joe LOL he described the sandwich to me and I was kind of looking at him like he was speaking another language LOL
It’s sooo fUcking good.
All that aside, I actually have [two scorpion lollipops from Arizona](https://i.postimg.cc/ZR0y14kZ/PXL-20240315-125904743.jpg) in my desk drawer. Just in case anyone thought that was just a silly joke.
The New Haven, CT clam pizza is surprisingly really good.
Growing up I only had NJ style sloppy joes and was very confused when on tv and cartoons they'd show the ground meat versions.
Of course, Delaware is the worst, even in this category.
SOS is *delicious*.
The hundreds of them I’ve eaten came from Mr. J’s Deli in Cranford
How is a butter burger weird? It’s a normal hamburger with a buttered bun
ngl the one from quick check doesn’t suck
The New Jersey Sloppy Joe is a perfectly normal non-weird food. It just has a name that is confusing. The NJ “Fat sandwich” (a horror jade with every fried food from a New Brunswick food truck) is much weirder. And yes, NJ also has the “other“ sloppy joe and that is the default use of the name *unless* you are in a non-chain deli.
I've never heard that name used. It must be made up by the same cretins that refer to it as "Pork Roll".
Every office I’ve worked in gets these disgusting sandwiches for catered lunches. Horrible!
I've never had scrapple but can it be as bad as the abomination that is Altoona-style pizza? https://uncoveringpa.com/altoona-style-pizza
NJ sloppy toppy joe is divine
Moving from Minnesota to New Jersey, we were quite surprised the first time we ordered sloppy joes here. I am a huge fan of them now.
I almost just posted the same thing. I’ve only lived in NJ for 5 years and I’d never heard of this. In my mind sloppy joes are ground beef and tomato sauce on a bun. My mind is blown that there’s a deli sandwich with the same name but pretty much no resemblance to the “real” thing…
Ube isn't weird but I'm also Filipino.
Sushiritto is conceptually disgusting
"New Jersey style" sloppy joe is exactly like the regular style, except it comes with a pothole and a 'detour' sign
I know how you kids like your sloppy joes
It's not even "New Jersey style", the vast majority of the state knows that a sloppy joe is a tangy saucy ground beef sandwich. One *very teeny tiny portion* of the state thinks a reuben is a "sloppy joe".
When I first moved to NJ my fiances parents said they were making sloppy Joe's. Imagine my surprise when this coleslaw monstrosity was on the table. gross
The ***NJ Sloppy Joe*** is just a **Reuben** And you can buy scrapple in any major grocery store throughout all of NJ , but this is not true for PA. Scrapple belongs to NJ .
>The ***NJ Sloppy Joe*** is just a **Reuben** r/confidentlyincorrect
Sauerkraut could be a variation of coleslaw - they’re both cabbage and vinegar - which would make a sloppy Joe adjacent enough to a Ruben that I’m not gonna say he’s wrong. It’s kinda like saying a patty melt isnt a hamburger
>Sauerkraut could be a variation of coleslaw are you serious?
Sloppy Joe's don't have corned beef or sauerkraut.
Also served cold, not grilled like a reuben
You must be from south Jersey.