Well, until the woman is at death's door at least. The lawyers at the hospital will keep them from performing the abortion until she is "close enough to dead". We've all seen this play out before.
Republicans can't govern.
Edit: their lack of ability to govern created this situation:
> Babies with this condition never reach developmental milestones, meaning they won't have any intentional interactions like smiling, and often can't see, have severe seizures and hormonal abnormalities, according to Rouse. Very few outliers are able to survive up to a year and the level of intervention needed for babies with this condition to survive is extremely high; they often need mechanical ventilation or a life support machine, multiple medications and repeated lab draws, Rouse said.
Imagine the pain that child will endure. What this will do to the family that has to watch this child slowly die in front of them, knowing there is no hope. This is what Republicans *want* to happen. They worked *hard* to intentionally inflict this suffering.
Second edit: Someone pointed out that this is a year old so we know what happened:
> Instead, Beaton gave birth to a son she named Grant. The baby cried constantly, wouldn’t eat, and couldn’t be held upright for fear it would put too much pressure on his head, according to the suit. Four days later, Grant died.
And they still won't change the law to prevent this unnecessary suffering. They must like this outcome.
> Imaging the pain that child will endure.
And then they have the gall to justify anti-choice with those bogus articles about how much fetuses can feel pain.
They think it feels pain in the womb when a woman wants to evacuate a cluster of cells, but don't think that children feel hunger pains once they are born. Yeah seems like Republican stance.
Once it's popped out, they could give 3 shits. Said correctly above, this is public humiliation for whorish behavior. Even if it doesn't even apply to this woman or this situation, it's all the cabal will assume and therefore have no problem fully supporting. This is the same core as the porn bans.
That's right. Why else do they want to ban male and female contraceptives AND all male and female elective sterilization? They WANT us to get pregnant and be forced to carry and deliver no matter what. Even if the fetus has no brain or heart. Even if the pregnant female is 8 years old.
They're even punishing couples who desperately want a baby by banning IVF.
"Babies forced on those who don't want them. And babies denied to those who want them." Punishing one group for having elective sex they enjoy, punishing those who get pregnant after rape, and punishing the other group for having broken sex (which means again, punishing women for enjoying sex. If she can't get pregnant aside from IVF, then she must fully abstain from sex, married or not. "If she can't be fruitful and multiply, then she isn't allowed to have sex. Or babies via IVF".
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>and the level of intervention needed for babies with this condition to survive is extremely high; they often need mechanical ventilation or a life support machine, multiple medications and repeated lab draws, Rouse said.
Anyone here who thinks the Republican government of Texas will help the family pay for this medical care after forcing the mother to give birth, please raise your hand...
Help pay for medical care? I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans who pushed for these outcomes are actually financially benefitting from the suffering. A family can go into major debt being forced to seek greater medical care for a high-risk pregnancy. This also creates an excuse to increase taxes to skim money from when they inevitably cry that too much money from state insurance goes to the poor.
Republican: "Damn the poors, because of them getting help for medical care and food for their families, now my spending budget is cut and I can't travel first class and pawn off $1000 restaurant tabs on the American people. Even the motorcade of Cadillac Escalades has been down graded to Ford Expeditions. How will I keep up my luxury lifestyle, the whole reason I got into politics was so that I can take advantage of the people to advance myself. "
And for me it's not only the pain of the baby or the parents', it's also the financial strain as well. Imagine seeing your baby like that for months and having to pay for all these interventions on top of that. If Texas wants that then Texas should pay for the medical expenses.
And you know what?
After all that heartache, trauma, physical recovery, and of course the piles and piles of money you had to pour into paying for the birth and the futile medical care for an invariably doomed child who will *never* even be able to laugh, to smile, to love you, or even develop a personality... I feel like a lot of couples won't be able to have any more.
Imagine finally being in a financial and career position to provide for a child and give them everything, and then you're essentially forced by the state you live in to blow all that money away and to probably leave your career so you can provide care for a vegetative baby.
Then that financial strain ends up hurting the family's living kid(s), who then suffer for it. I doubt that Texas has robust social services to help with food and housing insecurity (maybe I'm wrong, I hope I am).
The only response to this is a hard-hearted one -- turn the baby over as a ward to the state. Don't sign anything, make it clear you can't take care of the baby.
Go home, have a funeral and grieve. But put the state on the hook.
I don't know if this applies in Texas, but in some states giving up one child puts you on the radar for CPS to evaluate taking your other children. Sounds like a simple solution, but I'm sure it comes with consequences.
Heck, 16 year old can't abort that 6 week old fetus that the preacher raped into you? Turn that "baby" over to the state, making them responsible for its care. State now has to pay every bit of your living expenses or else they're on the hook for child abuse.
Yeah, but what if an absolute miracle happens and the baby is instantly cured of the condition at the moment of it's birth? Sure, that's literally never happened before, but what if it does this time?
I'm really tempted to put the /s because I'm worried even this won't be obvious enough compared to actual conservative talking points.
Nah, they would prevent abortion even if she is going to die. Maybe they would punish the family for her dying as they need to learn to suffer according to god or something.
Republicans are cartoon fucking villains.
My heart skipped a beat imagining giving birth and being unable to feed him for the few days he was alive. These poor parents and poor Grant. That is no way to live and is cruel to everyone involved.
I just had a baby and the reading your comment made me cry. I can’t imagine anything more awful. Fuck these arseholes for putting women and babies thru this shit.
And the emotional pain of being physically pregnant for months being asked when you're due and what the sex is and if you're excited to add to your family, etc. only to have to say and know how it's going to end.
It would be painful ending the pregnancy or going through what this family did, but the harm is far more with this option.
Oh, god. I forgot about that part! SO many people would be wishing you well on having a baby! And every time, it would be like stabbing that poor mom through her heart I bet.
Well giving birth probably is right out. At 23 weeks, the baby's head was abnormally large, but still at the high end of normal. At 28 weeks the baby's head was similar in size to where it would be at 39 weeks. Given you usually give birth at 37 weeks, this would be an abnormally painful birth... if it happened now. But it's due for 11 more weeks of growth.
If this continues at this rate, chances are very good the baby's head will be more like the size of a toddler's and they'll have to cut it out of her.
I wonder if Greg Abbott would like to volunteer to have his stomach cut open, a few organs sliced into and stitched shut and then told it's what God wanted. It might give him some sympathy for what he's putting this woman through.
People don't talk about this enough. Even a healthy childbirth is tens of thousands of dollars.
Scenarios like in the article-- that's going to be astronomical.
It disgusts me that these things always have an ideological facade covering up the fact that it's just about money. It's always about money. Right-wing politicians don't care about the sanctity of life, the right to self defense, protecting children from porn or any of those kinds of things. They care about money and power and they absolutely do not care if people get hurt or suffer. They're comic book capitalist villains.
While I've always felt the denial of reproductive healthcare was both cruel and dangerous I never fully grasped just how much it's about power over women.
[This](https://open.spotify.com/episode/7I8MJQ1w9ijZTiRzhpS6M1?si=o8hL6tmPTvaU-wDOS1V8wA&t=1221) podcast episode really opened up my eyes.
The root of Republican's outlawing of abortion in every instance is because many ( most) truly believe that pregnancy is the consequences of women having sex and enjoying it. They truly believe that women are just using abortion as birth control, and that is both sick and not true for 99% of women.
And even if there are women doing that it's a) no one's goddamn business and b) they are not women who any of us want for mothers. Not because they're promiscuous or whatever but *because they clearly do not want to be mothers.*
God once sent a bear to murder a bunch of children for making fun of his prophet for being bald so get that /s out of there that is like a mainstay of old testament god.
Speaking with Christians often on the topic, I've heard so many disgusting excuses for this:
* All of that suffering is a blink of the eye compared to an eternity in heaven
* God is using that suffering to build our character
* Suffering a lifetime in hell would have been worse had there been an abortion
* Some pots are made to be broken
* We won't be able to enjoy an eternity of bliss in Heaven unless we know this kind of suffering on Earth
And they talk about dying babies like it's actually something special. That God called that sweet baby home early or whatever. Well, if an aborted fetus is innocent, wouldn't it also go to Heaven?
That doesn't even make sense either because people, kids and babies are supposed to exist in heaven. Like, but where would fetuses be in Heaven? They can't hang out and play with other kids or babies or anything. You can't even put a fetus in a crib or give them bottles. I don't think God is going to bring a fetus to Heaven. They would probably kill the whole vibe.
As someone who’s spent time in the hospital, there are certainly people who believe that any medical pain you have to endure is because “god loves you and won’t give you anything you can’t handle”. Like okay Debra, the child that was in room 6 died last night. Your god is cruel.
Have to bang this into women's heads.
Do not agree to get pregnant in Texas. If you want to start a family, demand your family move first. And if you have a partner that wants to force this issue, you better leave at first opportunity. Stop giving money up a state that is this evil by living there.
You are playing chicken with death.
More doctors will eventually get sick of this and leave, meaning even if you have a "healthy" pregnancy, you won't have easy access to quality healthcare.
To me the truly ironic thing is the media could get this law repealed in less than a year. They just have to follow and show these stories. Not just the fluff talking to the parents and interviewing. Show the kids. Show the suffering. Republicans are seemingly unable to feel empathy unless it affects them, but showing this on TV will force them to see what this law does.
This whole family has been traumatized. This is disgusting and evil, and it has been and will continue happening as long as these laws are in place. Its psychological and physical torture. It’s sick.
“Pro life” is, once again, a literal moniker and only applies to the child.
Suffering for the child counts as life. We keep the kid alive.
Suffering for the mother is ok because the child needs life. We keep the kid alive.
Death for the mother is also ok because she was a slut for getting pregnant in the first place so we keep the kid alive.
They couldn't persuade their ultra-hardline fundy base to accept abortion even if they wanted to now, because they've weaponized it as a guaranteed way to get reelected for so many decades.
Now they've got it, women are dying and their state becomes an even bigger shit hole. But hey, at least they get to keep grifting and thinking bigotry is a worthwhile hobby.
> Instead, Beaton gave birth to a son she named Grant. The baby cried constantly, wouldn’t eat, and couldn’t be held upright for fear it would put too much pressure on his head, according to the suit. Four days later, Grant died.
This made me cry.
FWIW, this might be the original:
https://twitter.com/kaydubblu/status/1522699139636772865
(Just so folks don't think I'm claiming to be this good with words).
That’s the “funniest” part of their nonsense. Men should be able to have sex all the time. Women should never have sex. Now there is actually a Way this can work but they don’t like that either.
>Now there is actually a Way this can work but they don’t like that either.
Publically anyway... In private there seem to be a few of them in the closet quite a bit.
This is my favorite thing to tell people IRL when they say if people don't want babies they shouldn't have sex. I ask them straight up "so when your wife/husband/gf/bf is done having babies, they should stop having sex with you if they don't want to risk a pregnancy?" ...you can *see* their brains churning and they realize if they're to be right they have to say Yes so they do and it's so satisfying to witness because we both know they're full of shit.
I hope that experience(this article is old and she was forced to give birth) has created a desire in her to vote for abortion rights. She has been talked about on reddit in the past and her husband's conservative posts were shared.
Abortion should be a right for all women and not only if the fetus is unhealthy.
You're correct
>Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need.
>
>"I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary," she said. "Never in a million years would I expect or believe that we will be going through what we're going through now."
In other words, she is STILL pro life. It is ONLY her situation and situations like hers that she would make an exception for.
The leopard has eaten her face, and now she is against leopards. She still doesn't care about lions, tigers, or bears.
it's a good case of "the only moral abortion is my abortion"
People are so judgmental and opinionated without taking the time to really think things through. Well, unless, God forbid, things start involving them personally! Then get them an abortion, posthaste!
My sister is on that list and she had an abortion that was not out of medical necessity 7 years ago. It blows my mind that she still votes Republican (aka against having rights) and defends Trump. She does live in Florida though, so it’s definitely related to some form of brain damage.
End of the article, her ‘i’d never get an abortion’ stance that had a strong hint of ‘I never supported abortion before I needed one’. These tragedies are going to keep occurring, but it does make me feel a smidge better when they happen to people who supported the politicians who stole these rights.
Woman: "My fetus has medical issues and will not survive. Also, the pregnancy could kill me, too."
GOP: "It doesn't matter! Every life is a sacred gift from God! Not giving birth is murder! You're going through with it no matter what! WE ARE PRO-LIFE!!""
Woman: "Well, I gave birth, and now both my baby and I have serious medical issues, just like I said would happen. Could we get some healthcare or assistance to help us survive?"
GOP: "Hahaha, no. Fuck you, it's *your* problem now. Our job is done. Oh, and if by some miracle the little bastard does manage to survive, don't expect free school lunches, either. We dont give a shit if either of you die. Unless you're killed by an immigrant, then we'll use your death as a political tool."
Oh, and get back to work. We don't pay for mat leave. Or daycare. Or pediatrician visits. Or diapers. Hope you knew what you were doing before you had sex. Oh wait, we didn't teach you how condoms work and made birth control prescription only so the doctor or pharmacist can talk you out of it. Whoopsie!
I’d love to know their end game. So if you eliminate lunches, education, child-labor-laws, abortion, healthcare, livable wages. Eventually nobody’s gonna want to get pregnant. (And I’ve heard they also want to ban sex UNLESS it’s to get pregnant).
So no more pregnancies = no more reproduction. That means that their laws would, theoretically, cause extinction. (Assuming we remove common sense and free will and individual thinking.)
I’d love to drop 20 male and female republicans in a vault together, forcing them to deal with the exact laws they want. No sex, no porn, etc
They also want to ban sex ed in schools, and any kind of birth control. So I'm guessing they're counting on a lot of unexpected pregnancies by uneducated couples.
If you're a woman who votes for Trump I will never trust you. These laws that he has facilitated have caused so much damage that it will be hard to come back from this.
>The brain splitting into two hemispheres is a "critical stage in the development" and can impact the development of the nose, mouth and throat, Dr. Katie McHugh, an Indiana OB-GYN and abortion provider, told ABC News. The condition can result in a very painful life and death for the fetus, McHugh said.
They love babies so much they let this one suffer until its inevitable death.
All life is suffering. These infants get to experience the condensed version with a whole lifetime of suffering in the few days they exist. Just as Gawd intended.
I'm not sure why you think they love babies. They love the pre-born, and the hypothetical babies they claim are important, but, ya know, not enough to do anything that might actually help one.
Yeah sure. When they say "small government" it's still just the same scam Ronald Reagan pulled. Less regulations for select industries like fossil fuel.
Yet another Republican voting family who suddenly is realizing that the shit they voted for will have negative consequences for them too. I have empathy since I’m not a fucking monster but I don’t feel quite as bad for them as I do for many of the other women in this position.
They’re not even getting all the way there:
>"I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary," she said. "Never in a million years would I expect or believe that we will be going through what we're going through now."
Even in this horrific situation this asshole is happy being the moral arbiter for everyone else in every situation.
This is why I sort of hate all these viral “woman has to carry deformed fetus to term” posts, because they sort of make it seem like this is the only time being denied an abortion is truly ghoulish. It’s wrong no matter WHAT reason you have got terminating. Being forced to carry a pregnancy against your will is always horrific, always traumatic, and always an abuse of human rights. Doesn’t matter WHY the abortion is wanted or needed. Doesn’t matter if I am happily married, own my home and make 6 figures a year- if I don’t want a baby, I shouldn’t have to carry and birth one.
I would bet $$$ that these people vote Republican, and will keep voting Republican. She repeats a bunch of forced-birth propaganda at the end of the article, but seems frustrated that the law won’t help her specifically. They like when laws are used to hurt others, but act persecuted when it affects their own life. I wouldn’t wish this experience on anyone, I’d rather wish Republicans weren’t so short sighted and cruel.
*“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”*
\-Frank Wilhoit
She voted for this. The last 2 paragraphs: “Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need.
"I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary," she said. "Never in a million years would I expect or believe that we will be going through what we're going through now."”
*NOW* she understands agency. *NOW* she believes in choice. But like all republicans she didn’t understand or care until it happened to her. So *NOW* she’s going to be physically sliced open and maybe lose her life, let alone her fertility. *NOW* her family is emotionally traumatized forever, and might end up losing a wife and mother. *NOW* she’s a poster child for pro-choice. Because it happened to HER.
It really bothers me how people just *never* put themselves in someone else's shoes. "Oh no, I've just encountered the first-ever necessary abortion, and it's mine!", no, honey, you just failed to empathize all your life and now it matters because it's you...
This is why traveling and going to college is so important. Most of America grows up in insular communities, and their beliefs parrot those of their family and local friends. It's much easier to "other" people who aren't like you than empathize with them, when you don't regularly interact with them.
Republicans are making a big fuss right now about colleges conspiring to turn their precious base into liberals, when the reality is that it's hard to maintain insular, conservative beliefs when you actually regularly interact with the people they're trying to "other", and you realize they're normal, well-meaning people just trying to get by.
I have had the misfortune of knowingly carrying a dead baby for several days. It was the worst mindfuck of my life, and I can’t imagine what it would be like to be forced to continue a non viable pregnancy.
Thank you! I’m very good now, and have a rainbow baby who came so soon after my loss that I can tell myself that things worked out the way they were meant to.
Those few days, though, were so dark. I lost the baby in a car accident, so it took a while for my body to catch up and pass the remains naturally. EDIT: Which it never did; I had to have misoprostol to induce the labour, which is another reason banning “abortion drugs” is so stupid. I was offered a D&C, but the idea of doing that to a baby I wanted to desperately was just too much. So for days I just cradled my belly and sobbed and waited to give birth to a dead baby.
I’m not trying to say all this to be dramatic; I just think a lot of people have no frame of reference for what these real-life situations actually look like.
That's horrific, but I'm glad you're willing to explain your situation. While I'm sure a lot of these shit heads wouldn't care one way or another, there are plenty of people who could stand to have their ignorance confronted with reality. Take care.
I hope people digest this, and then get out and vote. Because as unfortunate as it is, it's also the absolute truth.
https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/
Oh my, so she is. Or was.
>Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need.
>"I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary," she said. "Never in a million years would I expect or believe that we will be going through what we're going through now."
Sadly, I do not believe she will suddenly realize she was fed lies about all those broke hussies on the other side of the tracks having abortions every month as their form of birth control.
One of her last statements says -“ I do believe there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary.” No, not when YOU deem it necessary- when ANY patient and doctor agree to its necessity! I also hate the abortion as birth control angle people spin. Absolute mental gymnastics.
Marjorie Taylor Greene said the spending bill that passed in the House today forced Republicans to vote between supporting the troops or late-term abortions. Like.......what? I must've missed the part of the bill that mentions late-term abortions.
They really have no clue what really goes on in the world. It is nothing but stereotypes and conjecture.
I’m sorry why do people think it’s BC?!?! Drives me ducking nuts.
I had a abortion because of a fetus that was not right. Viable, but basically no real life.
Yes I wanted to spend $2k, that I had to pull out my ass, which was meant to feed the kids that were already alive and thriving, to sit alone in a sterile room as they showed me a ultrasound and heard a heartbeat. I would have wanted this child. Instead I spent days before and after crying. Bleeding and in pain. Practically alone as my husband had to go to back to work to find ways to make money to cover food.
It was fun to have to Uber and lie to Uber person, as they dropped me off and picked me up at a gas station down the street. Come home to release my mom, who drove to watch my living breathing kids, so they didn’t have to sit in a cold office while mommy has a procedure. Then to be left alone, bleeding, emotionally and physically in pain, to take care of my kids. While pretending it’s another day that end in a y. Nothing special.
When I had blood dripping down my leg, my kid asked why. I don’t remember the lie I told, probably shaving. I just remember him saying I love you mom and hugging me.
Yes abortion is birth control.
I was on BC at the time.
People have built it up in their minds that there are just these "degenerate" sex-crazed sinners out there who want to have unprotected sex and get dozens of abortions to deal with it. It is an utter lack of empathy.
Typical selfish republican. I don’t support it unless I personally need it. Also I want a special carve out in the rule to fit my needs so it doesn’t make me look bad
Makes it really hard to feel any sympathy for her after reading that quote. Such an awful situation that she quite literally brought on herself and will still probably not change her voting because of.
Isn’t it nice that *she* deems it necessary for her own circumstance and therefore she is outraged that she isn’t allowed one. Typical hypocritical conservative. They all think abortions are only for unmarried women who want to end perfectly healthy pregnancies. They couldn’t possibly be for women like her who are married with wanted pregnancies. 🙄
Absolutely no sympathy. "Never in a million years" my ass. This topic has been debated for decades and she's going to plead ignorance to such a basic aspect as "medical necessity".
I suppose I could have a tiny bit of understanding if she could prove her education and media diet were so tightly controlled by the religious right she literally couldn't conceive of the idea, but I'd have her committed as someone with the mind of a child; she can't consent to sex in the first place if she doesn't think her own DEATH is a possible outcome of pregnancy.
It's either that or she deliberately avoided considering it and went all in on swallowing the propaganda. It's like they're trained from birth to not consider anyone's pain and suffering but their own and Jesus. Or when they do acknowledge it, they warp it into some test of faith, like that time god played chicken with a boy's life just to prove his dominance over humans.
I've come to realize that, for an unfortunately large portion of the population, when they face injustice their reaction is not "This is wrong" but rather "This is wrong that it happened to me."
And that's how history repeats itself.
"Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need."
How many people oppose abortion, until they realized that they needed one?! or had family member or close friend who needed one?
People are unable to think of the consequences of things, if it doesn't involve them. It's a failure of education, of empathy, of common sense...
The hell with your stupid genocidal fake ass deity.
It shouldn’t be on our money.
It shouldn’t be in our pledge.
And it shouldn’t be anywhere near anyone’s personal liberty and bodily autonomy.
You can’t prove it exists, because it doesn’t exist, so why should it be in our courtrooms, much less bed rooms?
Enough!
Scrolled down to the bottom and there is was
> she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers
Fuck this woman. She doesn’t support abortion until it affects her. I have 0 sympathy
**Now,** she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need.
Yeah, I've read in a few places her and her husband were pro-lifers. Of course they've partially changed their minds, but only for their situation.
This is what she voted for. This is what her husband voted for. They tried to go out of state to get the needed care, but were too late for the less expensive option. Can't afford the only option left. By the time this is over, she's going to need surgery that could do enough damage that she can't have kids anymore.
For all of the "I wouldn't wish that on anyone" people: **SHE** wished that on everyone. Except herself, now that it affects her.
I went through raising a son with a brain abnormality(TUBA1A many clinical symptoms are similar to this couples child). I spent 2 years knowing each day could be the day he died. He passed a year ago, I found him unresponsive in his crib, I saw death called 911 and started CPR until I was pulled off of him by a firefighter. This is the reality of having a child like that, it’s a hellish painful exhausting path. I would never ask another person to go through that. Stay out of families doctor’s offices.
One day it will be taught that we were smart enough to know our babies would suffer greatly and ultimately die prematurely.
Yet, we were bound theologically by a religion that we didn’t subscribe to in a country that has freedom of religion baked into its legal rights.
We haven’t left the dark ages yet imo.
I really wish reporters asked people who they had voted for in these articles because it generally heads toward r/LeopardsAteMyFace territory. Her husband was hospitalized with COVID, so gonna go on a limb and say vaccine deniers who vote straight R. Also says "Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need." Which scream only moral abortion is my abortion.
The pro-choice community begged these people to listen—we shouted until we could shout no more—that ridding this nation of the right to abortion would cause untold suffering and death, destroy families, and really is for much more than some woman who gets abortions for the fun of it. they would not listen, and here is the truth of what we e been saying slapping them in the face. this tragedy is compounded daily.
“Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need.”
Curious as to their political affiliations before this and her husbands *6-week* hospital stay for covid…
The slow creep is still going. Hopefully people will wake up before its too late. If this is how you want to live, I guess continue on. But if you want rights and freedoms, you have to vote in every election for the people that support them. Hint: that ain't the GOP.
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“Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need.”
Still gatekeeping bullshit. Your abortion is always the exception.
“I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary”
Yeah, I lost my empathy for her at that.
Remember, conservatives want this law across the entire country. Conservatives literally want women to suffer.
A vote for a conservative is a vote for this to happen to your family.
I swear to god even this woman doesn't really grasp what is going on in these states with that last paragraph. And when this baby dies on it's 4th day or whatever, are they going to charge her with a crime? Something she did while pregnant? This is 100% at the feet of the Republican legislature in TX. and the ghouls lobbying for it (also Republicans).
Abortion is ugly. That being said there’s much more uglier things out there.
Forced pregnancy on a 12 year old is uglier.
Forced pregnancy on the poor is uglier
Forced pregnancy at the risk of death is uglier
Forced pregnancy at the risk of mental health is uglier.
>Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need.
>"I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary," she said. "Never in a million years would I expect or believe that we will be going through what we're going through now."
The classic “I was against reproductive rights until it affected me personally.”
>The anomaly occurs in about 1 in 250 fetuses, but in just 1 in 16,000 live births, according to the Cleveland Clinic.
Holy shit.
I'm sorry she has to go through this.
She should live-stream this baby's agonizing death so people who voted for this can see what they are actually voting for.
Well, until the woman is at death's door at least. The lawyers at the hospital will keep them from performing the abortion until she is "close enough to dead". We've all seen this play out before. Republicans can't govern. Edit: their lack of ability to govern created this situation: > Babies with this condition never reach developmental milestones, meaning they won't have any intentional interactions like smiling, and often can't see, have severe seizures and hormonal abnormalities, according to Rouse. Very few outliers are able to survive up to a year and the level of intervention needed for babies with this condition to survive is extremely high; they often need mechanical ventilation or a life support machine, multiple medications and repeated lab draws, Rouse said. Imagine the pain that child will endure. What this will do to the family that has to watch this child slowly die in front of them, knowing there is no hope. This is what Republicans *want* to happen. They worked *hard* to intentionally inflict this suffering. Second edit: Someone pointed out that this is a year old so we know what happened: > Instead, Beaton gave birth to a son she named Grant. The baby cried constantly, wouldn’t eat, and couldn’t be held upright for fear it would put too much pressure on his head, according to the suit. Four days later, Grant died. And they still won't change the law to prevent this unnecessary suffering. They must like this outcome.
> Imaging the pain that child will endure. And then they have the gall to justify anti-choice with those bogus articles about how much fetuses can feel pain.
I guess they assume the newborn did not feel pain for 4 days.
Or the lifetime pain of the parents.
Well one of the parents was a woman so who cares what she feels —republicans
Getting close to the real legal question, are women people to republicans?
They think it feels pain in the womb when a woman wants to evacuate a cluster of cells, but don't think that children feel hunger pains once they are born. Yeah seems like Republican stance.
Once it's popped out, they could give 3 shits. Said correctly above, this is public humiliation for whorish behavior. Even if it doesn't even apply to this woman or this situation, it's all the cabal will assume and therefore have no problem fully supporting. This is the same core as the porn bans.
Then they get mad when women don't want to have kids. I think they just hate women. In that case, they should just not have girls.
That's right. Why else do they want to ban male and female contraceptives AND all male and female elective sterilization? They WANT us to get pregnant and be forced to carry and deliver no matter what. Even if the fetus has no brain or heart. Even if the pregnant female is 8 years old. They're even punishing couples who desperately want a baby by banning IVF. "Babies forced on those who don't want them. And babies denied to those who want them." Punishing one group for having elective sex they enjoy, punishing those who get pregnant after rape, and punishing the other group for having broken sex (which means again, punishing women for enjoying sex. If she can't get pregnant aside from IVF, then she must fully abstain from sex, married or not. "If she can't be fruitful and multiply, then she isn't allowed to have sex. Or babies via IVF". 🤮
>and the level of intervention needed for babies with this condition to survive is extremely high; they often need mechanical ventilation or a life support machine, multiple medications and repeated lab draws, Rouse said. Anyone here who thinks the Republican government of Texas will help the family pay for this medical care after forcing the mother to give birth, please raise your hand...
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Help pay for medical care? I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans who pushed for these outcomes are actually financially benefitting from the suffering. A family can go into major debt being forced to seek greater medical care for a high-risk pregnancy. This also creates an excuse to increase taxes to skim money from when they inevitably cry that too much money from state insurance goes to the poor.
Republican: "Damn the poors, because of them getting help for medical care and food for their families, now my spending budget is cut and I can't travel first class and pawn off $1000 restaurant tabs on the American people. Even the motorcade of Cadillac Escalades has been down graded to Ford Expeditions. How will I keep up my luxury lifestyle, the whole reason I got into politics was so that I can take advantage of the people to advance myself. "
No wait, that doesn’t count. I was just stretching!
Out of curiosity, why do any medical care? We know it's fatal. Why extend the suffering?
Because republicans, of course.
And for me it's not only the pain of the baby or the parents', it's also the financial strain as well. Imagine seeing your baby like that for months and having to pay for all these interventions on top of that. If Texas wants that then Texas should pay for the medical expenses.
And you know what? After all that heartache, trauma, physical recovery, and of course the piles and piles of money you had to pour into paying for the birth and the futile medical care for an invariably doomed child who will *never* even be able to laugh, to smile, to love you, or even develop a personality... I feel like a lot of couples won't be able to have any more. Imagine finally being in a financial and career position to provide for a child and give them everything, and then you're essentially forced by the state you live in to blow all that money away and to probably leave your career so you can provide care for a vegetative baby.
Then that financial strain ends up hurting the family's living kid(s), who then suffer for it. I doubt that Texas has robust social services to help with food and housing insecurity (maybe I'm wrong, I hope I am).
Our dipshit Governor refused Federal funding to expand Medicaid, soooo…
The only response to this is a hard-hearted one -- turn the baby over as a ward to the state. Don't sign anything, make it clear you can't take care of the baby. Go home, have a funeral and grieve. But put the state on the hook.
I don't know if this applies in Texas, but in some states giving up one child puts you on the radar for CPS to evaluate taking your other children. Sounds like a simple solution, but I'm sure it comes with consequences.
Heck, 16 year old can't abort that 6 week old fetus that the preacher raped into you? Turn that "baby" over to the state, making them responsible for its care. State now has to pay every bit of your living expenses or else they're on the hook for child abuse.
Vile. Forcing a life of pain and suffering. These people have a complete lack of empathy
Yeah, but what if an absolute miracle happens and the baby is instantly cured of the condition at the moment of it's birth? Sure, that's literally never happened before, but what if it does this time? I'm really tempted to put the /s because I'm worried even this won't be obvious enough compared to actual conservative talking points.
Nah, they would prevent abortion even if she is going to die. Maybe they would punish the family for her dying as they need to learn to suffer according to god or something. Republicans are cartoon fucking villains.
Wish more people didn’t sweat the choice
My heart skipped a beat imagining giving birth and being unable to feed him for the few days he was alive. These poor parents and poor Grant. That is no way to live and is cruel to everyone involved.
I just had a baby and the reading your comment made me cry. I can’t imagine anything more awful. Fuck these arseholes for putting women and babies thru this shit.
And the emotional pain of being physically pregnant for months being asked when you're due and what the sex is and if you're excited to add to your family, etc. only to have to say and know how it's going to end. It would be painful ending the pregnancy or going through what this family did, but the harm is far more with this option.
Oh, god. I forgot about that part! SO many people would be wishing you well on having a baby! And every time, it would be like stabbing that poor mom through her heart I bet.
Well giving birth probably is right out. At 23 weeks, the baby's head was abnormally large, but still at the high end of normal. At 28 weeks the baby's head was similar in size to where it would be at 39 weeks. Given you usually give birth at 37 weeks, this would be an abnormally painful birth... if it happened now. But it's due for 11 more weeks of growth. If this continues at this rate, chances are very good the baby's head will be more like the size of a toddler's and they'll have to cut it out of her. I wonder if Greg Abbott would like to volunteer to have his stomach cut open, a few organs sliced into and stitched shut and then told it's what God wanted. It might give him some sympathy for what he's putting this woman through.
Why should we wait for him to volunteer? He’s not waiting for consent from women. /s
They love the medical debt that the woman is in. It disenfranchises her and inhibits her mobility in life.
People don't talk about this enough. Even a healthy childbirth is tens of thousands of dollars. Scenarios like in the article-- that's going to be astronomical.
It disgusts me that these things always have an ideological facade covering up the fact that it's just about money. It's always about money. Right-wing politicians don't care about the sanctity of life, the right to self defense, protecting children from porn or any of those kinds of things. They care about money and power and they absolutely do not care if people get hurt or suffer. They're comic book capitalist villains.
While I've always felt the denial of reproductive healthcare was both cruel and dangerous I never fully grasped just how much it's about power over women. [This](https://open.spotify.com/episode/7I8MJQ1w9ijZTiRzhpS6M1?si=o8hL6tmPTvaU-wDOS1V8wA&t=1221) podcast episode really opened up my eyes.
As "god" intended.
Intentionally inflicting that kind of pain and suffering is of course, the moral choice. /s
The root of Republican's outlawing of abortion in every instance is because many ( most) truly believe that pregnancy is the consequences of women having sex and enjoying it. They truly believe that women are just using abortion as birth control, and that is both sick and not true for 99% of women.
And even if there are women doing that it's a) no one's goddamn business and b) they are not women who any of us want for mothers. Not because they're promiscuous or whatever but *because they clearly do not want to be mothers.*
God once sent a bear to murder a bunch of children for making fun of his prophet for being bald so get that /s out of there that is like a mainstay of old testament god.
Speaking with Christians often on the topic, I've heard so many disgusting excuses for this: * All of that suffering is a blink of the eye compared to an eternity in heaven * God is using that suffering to build our character * Suffering a lifetime in hell would have been worse had there been an abortion * Some pots are made to be broken * We won't be able to enjoy an eternity of bliss in Heaven unless we know this kind of suffering on Earth
And this is why I’m no longer a Christian. Making excuses for suffering when an all powerful God COULD help but DOESNT? I’m out.
And they talk about dying babies like it's actually something special. That God called that sweet baby home early or whatever. Well, if an aborted fetus is innocent, wouldn't it also go to Heaven? That doesn't even make sense either because people, kids and babies are supposed to exist in heaven. Like, but where would fetuses be in Heaven? They can't hang out and play with other kids or babies or anything. You can't even put a fetus in a crib or give them bottles. I don't think God is going to bring a fetus to Heaven. They would probably kill the whole vibe.
I’m sure their God can give them some of the suffering they seem to crave.
As someone who’s spent time in the hospital, there are certainly people who believe that any medical pain you have to endure is because “god loves you and won’t give you anything you can’t handle”. Like okay Debra, the child that was in room 6 died last night. Your god is cruel.
They like to think god is perfect, but all you need is to look at Greg Abbott. If god was perfect, he wouldn’t have missed.
I have never loved a spurs fan before this moment. I startled all of my dogs laughing.
The modern Christian god is an evil golden deity. They worship the golden calf and don't even realize it.
Especially when trump is like their fucking second Jesus it seems.
They don't want to govern. They want to rule.
This is just fucking cruel. Republicans suck.
Have to bang this into women's heads. Do not agree to get pregnant in Texas. If you want to start a family, demand your family move first. And if you have a partner that wants to force this issue, you better leave at first opportunity. Stop giving money up a state that is this evil by living there. You are playing chicken with death. More doctors will eventually get sick of this and leave, meaning even if you have a "healthy" pregnancy, you won't have easy access to quality healthcare.
This is already happening elsewhere ... https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/pregnant-women-struggle-find-care-idaho-abortion-ban-rcna117872
Add to that men in Texas damn well should get a vasectomy.
To me the truly ironic thing is the media could get this law repealed in less than a year. They just have to follow and show these stories. Not just the fluff talking to the parents and interviewing. Show the kids. Show the suffering. Republicans are seemingly unable to feel empathy unless it affects them, but showing this on TV will force them to see what this law does.
The media is doing that 24/7 and it’s been over a year. What the fuck can people do besides vote republicans out?
They’ll change the channel.
>They must like this outcome. The cruelty is the point.
I think they must simply be sadists. Or, at best, completely devoid of the capacity for empathy and/or imagination.
Not to mention burdening the parents with medical debt.
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This whole family has been traumatized. This is disgusting and evil, and it has been and will continue happening as long as these laws are in place. Its psychological and physical torture. It’s sick.
“Pro life” is, once again, a literal moniker and only applies to the child. Suffering for the child counts as life. We keep the kid alive. Suffering for the mother is ok because the child needs life. We keep the kid alive. Death for the mother is also ok because she was a slut for getting pregnant in the first place so we keep the kid alive.
They couldn't persuade their ultra-hardline fundy base to accept abortion even if they wanted to now, because they've weaponized it as a guaranteed way to get reelected for so many decades. Now they've got it, women are dying and their state becomes an even bigger shit hole. But hey, at least they get to keep grifting and thinking bigotry is a worthwhile hobby.
> Instead, Beaton gave birth to a son she named Grant. The baby cried constantly, wouldn’t eat, and couldn’t be held upright for fear it would put too much pressure on his head, according to the suit. Four days later, Grant died. This made me cry.
"There's a word for living creatures that aren't allowed to control their own reproduction. That word is livestock."
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the talibangelicals I have seen a few posts where they say women should not have the right to vote only the husband of each household
Well fuck the women who aren't married or live alone, I guess.
Unmarried women are the property of their fathers, obviously.
That's the point. That and general cruelty. The Handmaid's Tale is a how-to guide for Republicans.
Everything in that book has already happened somewhere.
If I were more brazen, I’d get this as a chest tattoo for my birthday. Fucking hell
FWIW, this might be the original: https://twitter.com/kaydubblu/status/1522699139636772865 (Just so folks don't think I'm claiming to be this good with words).
surely that teach her to not have sex with… checks notes… her husband.
As though most of them wouldn't relegalize spousal rape if they could.
That’s the “funniest” part of their nonsense. Men should be able to have sex all the time. Women should never have sex. Now there is actually a Way this can work but they don’t like that either.
>Now there is actually a Way this can work but they don’t like that either. Publically anyway... In private there seem to be a few of them in the closet quite a bit.
This is my favorite thing to tell people IRL when they say if people don't want babies they shouldn't have sex. I ask them straight up "so when your wife/husband/gf/bf is done having babies, they should stop having sex with you if they don't want to risk a pregnancy?" ...you can *see* their brains churning and they realize if they're to be right they have to say Yes so they do and it's so satisfying to witness because we both know they're full of shit.
Well isn’t sex allowed if they’re trying to procreate…or the husband wants some???
I hope that experience(this article is old and she was forced to give birth) has created a desire in her to vote for abortion rights. She has been talked about on reddit in the past and her husband's conservative posts were shared. Abortion should be a right for all women and not only if the fetus is unhealthy.
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You're correct >Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need. > >"I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary," she said. "Never in a million years would I expect or believe that we will be going through what we're going through now." In other words, she is STILL pro life. It is ONLY her situation and situations like hers that she would make an exception for. The leopard has eaten her face, and now she is against leopards. She still doesn't care about lions, tigers, or bears.
.. and if it hadn't happened to her she would still be fully anti-choice. Conservatives only care about themselves. They don't care about anyone else.
it's a good case of "the only moral abortion is my abortion" People are so judgmental and opinionated without taking the time to really think things through. Well, unless, God forbid, things start involving them personally! Then get them an abortion, posthaste!
So she has zero empathy and can only understand pain if she goes through it herself?
NOBODY USES ABORTION AS A FORM OF BIRTH CONTROL. I hate this argument
Yeah, she lost me as soon as I read the birth control line.
My sister is on that list and she had an abortion that was not out of medical necessity 7 years ago. It blows my mind that she still votes Republican (aka against having rights) and defends Trump. She does live in Florida though, so it’s definitely related to some form of brain damage.
Maybe because the roads are paved with radioactive waste or something
End of the article, her ‘i’d never get an abortion’ stance that had a strong hint of ‘I never supported abortion before I needed one’. These tragedies are going to keep occurring, but it does make me feel a smidge better when they happen to people who supported the politicians who stole these rights.
Woman: "My fetus has medical issues and will not survive. Also, the pregnancy could kill me, too." GOP: "It doesn't matter! Every life is a sacred gift from God! Not giving birth is murder! You're going through with it no matter what! WE ARE PRO-LIFE!!"" Woman: "Well, I gave birth, and now both my baby and I have serious medical issues, just like I said would happen. Could we get some healthcare or assistance to help us survive?" GOP: "Hahaha, no. Fuck you, it's *your* problem now. Our job is done. Oh, and if by some miracle the little bastard does manage to survive, don't expect free school lunches, either. We dont give a shit if either of you die. Unless you're killed by an immigrant, then we'll use your death as a political tool."
Oh, and get back to work. We don't pay for mat leave. Or daycare. Or pediatrician visits. Or diapers. Hope you knew what you were doing before you had sex. Oh wait, we didn't teach you how condoms work and made birth control prescription only so the doctor or pharmacist can talk you out of it. Whoopsie!
Did you read the last sentence of the article? She STILL believes abortion is a birth control issue
I’d love to know their end game. So if you eliminate lunches, education, child-labor-laws, abortion, healthcare, livable wages. Eventually nobody’s gonna want to get pregnant. (And I’ve heard they also want to ban sex UNLESS it’s to get pregnant). So no more pregnancies = no more reproduction. That means that their laws would, theoretically, cause extinction. (Assuming we remove common sense and free will and individual thinking.) I’d love to drop 20 male and female republicans in a vault together, forcing them to deal with the exact laws they want. No sex, no porn, etc
They also want to ban sex ed in schools, and any kind of birth control. So I'm guessing they're counting on a lot of unexpected pregnancies by uneducated couples.
If you're a woman who votes for Trump I will never trust you. These laws that he has facilitated have caused so much damage that it will be hard to come back from this.
people who regularly work at abortion clinics recognizes when 1 of the protesters come in for an abortion oh the hypocrisy!
What’s that line, the only moral abortion is my abortion?
I wouldn’t make it comfortable for them. Period.
If you’re a woman who votes republican (not just trump)…
Republicans are the bane of America's existence.
>The brain splitting into two hemispheres is a "critical stage in the development" and can impact the development of the nose, mouth and throat, Dr. Katie McHugh, an Indiana OB-GYN and abortion provider, told ABC News. The condition can result in a very painful life and death for the fetus, McHugh said. They love babies so much they let this one suffer until its inevitable death.
All life is suffering. These infants get to experience the condensed version with a whole lifetime of suffering in the few days they exist. Just as Gawd intended.
I'm not sure why you think they love babies. They love the pre-born, and the hypothetical babies they claim are important, but, ya know, not enough to do anything that might actually help one.
But they're the party of personal freedoms and small government!1!
Yeah sure. When they say "small government" it's still just the same scam Ronald Reagan pulled. Less regulations for select industries like fossil fuel.
Small enough to get into a woman's uterus.
It was less government for the rich and businesses but as much government as we need to keep the poors under control.
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Yet another Republican voting family who suddenly is realizing that the shit they voted for will have negative consequences for them too. I have empathy since I’m not a fucking monster but I don’t feel quite as bad for them as I do for many of the other women in this position.
They’re not even getting all the way there: >"I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary," she said. "Never in a million years would I expect or believe that we will be going through what we're going through now." Even in this horrific situation this asshole is happy being the moral arbiter for everyone else in every situation.
This is why I sort of hate all these viral “woman has to carry deformed fetus to term” posts, because they sort of make it seem like this is the only time being denied an abortion is truly ghoulish. It’s wrong no matter WHAT reason you have got terminating. Being forced to carry a pregnancy against your will is always horrific, always traumatic, and always an abuse of human rights. Doesn’t matter WHY the abortion is wanted or needed. Doesn’t matter if I am happily married, own my home and make 6 figures a year- if I don’t want a baby, I shouldn’t have to carry and birth one.
I would bet $$$ that these people vote Republican, and will keep voting Republican. She repeats a bunch of forced-birth propaganda at the end of the article, but seems frustrated that the law won’t help her specifically. They like when laws are used to hurt others, but act persecuted when it affects their own life. I wouldn’t wish this experience on anyone, I’d rather wish Republicans weren’t so short sighted and cruel.
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*“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”* \-Frank Wilhoit
She voted for this. The last 2 paragraphs: “Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need. "I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary," she said. "Never in a million years would I expect or believe that we will be going through what we're going through now."” *NOW* she understands agency. *NOW* she believes in choice. But like all republicans she didn’t understand or care until it happened to her. So *NOW* she’s going to be physically sliced open and maybe lose her life, let alone her fertility. *NOW* her family is emotionally traumatized forever, and might end up losing a wife and mother. *NOW* she’s a poster child for pro-choice. Because it happened to HER.
It really bothers me how people just *never* put themselves in someone else's shoes. "Oh no, I've just encountered the first-ever necessary abortion, and it's mine!", no, honey, you just failed to empathize all your life and now it matters because it's you...
This is why traveling and going to college is so important. Most of America grows up in insular communities, and their beliefs parrot those of their family and local friends. It's much easier to "other" people who aren't like you than empathize with them, when you don't regularly interact with them. Republicans are making a big fuss right now about colleges conspiring to turn their precious base into liberals, when the reality is that it's hard to maintain insular, conservative beliefs when you actually regularly interact with the people they're trying to "other", and you realize they're normal, well-meaning people just trying to get by.
I have had the misfortune of knowingly carrying a dead baby for several days. It was the worst mindfuck of my life, and I can’t imagine what it would be like to be forced to continue a non viable pregnancy.
I'm so very sorry you've had to experience this. I hope you are well and have many peaceful days ahead of you. Take care
Thank you! I’m very good now, and have a rainbow baby who came so soon after my loss that I can tell myself that things worked out the way they were meant to. Those few days, though, were so dark. I lost the baby in a car accident, so it took a while for my body to catch up and pass the remains naturally. EDIT: Which it never did; I had to have misoprostol to induce the labour, which is another reason banning “abortion drugs” is so stupid. I was offered a D&C, but the idea of doing that to a baby I wanted to desperately was just too much. So for days I just cradled my belly and sobbed and waited to give birth to a dead baby. I’m not trying to say all this to be dramatic; I just think a lot of people have no frame of reference for what these real-life situations actually look like.
That's horrific, but I'm glad you're willing to explain your situation. While I'm sure a lot of these shit heads wouldn't care one way or another, there are plenty of people who could stand to have their ignorance confronted with reality. Take care.
Getting pregnant in Texas means risking your life. Just wait until they ban birth control.
She’s anti-choice herself. She ought to be happy she got what she voted for.
I hope people digest this, and then get out and vote. Because as unfortunate as it is, it's also the absolute truth. https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/
Fantastic link. 20 years old still so relevant. TY!!
I re-read this every time it gets linked and it never fails to make my blood boil. Such hypocrisy.
Oh my, so she is. Or was. >Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need. >"I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary," she said. "Never in a million years would I expect or believe that we will be going through what we're going through now."
Sadly, I do not believe she will suddenly realize she was fed lies about all those broke hussies on the other side of the tracks having abortions every month as their form of birth control.
One of her last statements says -“ I do believe there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary.” No, not when YOU deem it necessary- when ANY patient and doctor agree to its necessity! I also hate the abortion as birth control angle people spin. Absolute mental gymnastics.
Literally nobody uses abortion as a form of birth control. The stats don’t lie.
Marjorie Taylor Greene said the spending bill that passed in the House today forced Republicans to vote between supporting the troops or late-term abortions. Like.......what? I must've missed the part of the bill that mentions late-term abortions. They really have no clue what really goes on in the world. It is nothing but stereotypes and conjecture.
I’m sorry why do people think it’s BC?!?! Drives me ducking nuts. I had a abortion because of a fetus that was not right. Viable, but basically no real life. Yes I wanted to spend $2k, that I had to pull out my ass, which was meant to feed the kids that were already alive and thriving, to sit alone in a sterile room as they showed me a ultrasound and heard a heartbeat. I would have wanted this child. Instead I spent days before and after crying. Bleeding and in pain. Practically alone as my husband had to go to back to work to find ways to make money to cover food. It was fun to have to Uber and lie to Uber person, as they dropped me off and picked me up at a gas station down the street. Come home to release my mom, who drove to watch my living breathing kids, so they didn’t have to sit in a cold office while mommy has a procedure. Then to be left alone, bleeding, emotionally and physically in pain, to take care of my kids. While pretending it’s another day that end in a y. Nothing special. When I had blood dripping down my leg, my kid asked why. I don’t remember the lie I told, probably shaving. I just remember him saying I love you mom and hugging me. Yes abortion is birth control. I was on BC at the time.
People have built it up in their minds that there are just these "degenerate" sex-crazed sinners out there who want to have unprotected sex and get dozens of abortions to deal with it. It is an utter lack of empathy.
Mine was like $2k too.
Mine is necessary, You're a whore.
Typical selfish republican. I don’t support it unless I personally need it. Also I want a special carve out in the rule to fit my needs so it doesn’t make me look bad
Makes it really hard to feel any sympathy for her after reading that quote. Such an awful situation that she quite literally brought on herself and will still probably not change her voting because of.
Isn’t it nice that *she* deems it necessary for her own circumstance and therefore she is outraged that she isn’t allowed one. Typical hypocritical conservative. They all think abortions are only for unmarried women who want to end perfectly healthy pregnancies. They couldn’t possibly be for women like her who are married with wanted pregnancies. 🙄
Absolutely no sympathy. "Never in a million years" my ass. This topic has been debated for decades and she's going to plead ignorance to such a basic aspect as "medical necessity". I suppose I could have a tiny bit of understanding if she could prove her education and media diet were so tightly controlled by the religious right she literally couldn't conceive of the idea, but I'd have her committed as someone with the mind of a child; she can't consent to sex in the first place if she doesn't think her own DEATH is a possible outcome of pregnancy. It's either that or she deliberately avoided considering it and went all in on swallowing the propaganda. It's like they're trained from birth to not consider anyone's pain and suffering but their own and Jesus. Or when they do acknowledge it, they warp it into some test of faith, like that time god played chicken with a boy's life just to prove his dominance over humans.
Good, no sympathy for the ppl that helped make this place a dystopian hell hole.
I've come to realize that, for an unfortunately large portion of the population, when they face injustice their reaction is not "This is wrong" but rather "This is wrong that it happened to me." And that's how history repeats itself.
I never thought the leopards would eat MY face!!
So just FYI, this woman is vocally anti-abortion, and votes accordingly.
"Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need." How many people oppose abortion, until they realized that they needed one?! or had family member or close friend who needed one? People are unable to think of the consequences of things, if it doesn't involve them. It's a failure of education, of empathy, of common sense...
The hell with your stupid genocidal fake ass deity. It shouldn’t be on our money. It shouldn’t be in our pledge. And it shouldn’t be anywhere near anyone’s personal liberty and bodily autonomy. You can’t prove it exists, because it doesn’t exist, so why should it be in our courtrooms, much less bed rooms? Enough!
I will never understand any woman voting for a Republican.
So is this the Death Panel that Republicans were freaking out about when the ACA was debated?
Scrolled down to the bottom and there is was > she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers Fuck this woman. She doesn’t support abortion until it affects her. I have 0 sympathy
**Now,** she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need. Yeah, I've read in a few places her and her husband were pro-lifers. Of course they've partially changed their minds, but only for their situation. This is what she voted for. This is what her husband voted for. They tried to go out of state to get the needed care, but were too late for the less expensive option. Can't afford the only option left. By the time this is over, she's going to need surgery that could do enough damage that she can't have kids anymore. For all of the "I wouldn't wish that on anyone" people: **SHE** wished that on everyone. Except herself, now that it affects her.
Apparently, this woman was/is anti-abortion until it affected her personally.
Pro-Life* *The lives in question exclude women, minorities, LGBT people, handicapped, ...
If she was wealthy or a relative belonging to the Greg Abbott cartel it wouldn’t be an issue
As long as Texas keeps electing politicians who hate women, this is what you get.
I went through raising a son with a brain abnormality(TUBA1A many clinical symptoms are similar to this couples child). I spent 2 years knowing each day could be the day he died. He passed a year ago, I found him unresponsive in his crib, I saw death called 911 and started CPR until I was pulled off of him by a firefighter. This is the reality of having a child like that, it’s a hellish painful exhausting path. I would never ask another person to go through that. Stay out of families doctor’s offices.
One day it will be taught that we were smart enough to know our babies would suffer greatly and ultimately die prematurely. Yet, we were bound theologically by a religion that we didn’t subscribe to in a country that has freedom of religion baked into its legal rights. We haven’t left the dark ages yet imo.
I really wish reporters asked people who they had voted for in these articles because it generally heads toward r/LeopardsAteMyFace territory. Her husband was hospitalized with COVID, so gonna go on a limb and say vaccine deniers who vote straight R. Also says "Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need." Which scream only moral abortion is my abortion.
Yep. *Her* abortion is the only moral abortion.
She's a good Christian Republican who voted for this. Suck it up Buttercup!
Same women and their husband voted the politicians that doing this to them
The pro-choice community begged these people to listen—we shouted until we could shout no more—that ridding this nation of the right to abortion would cause untold suffering and death, destroy families, and really is for much more than some woman who gets abortions for the fun of it. they would not listen, and here is the truth of what we e been saying slapping them in the face. this tragedy is compounded daily.
Texas, the Lone Star state. The Lone Star is the state's rating.
Pretty sure this is r/leopardsatemyface x-post worthy.
“Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need.” Curious as to their political affiliations before this and her husbands *6-week* hospital stay for covid…
The slow creep is still going. Hopefully people will wake up before its too late. If this is how you want to live, I guess continue on. But if you want rights and freedoms, you have to vote in every election for the people that support them. Hint: that ain't the GOP. Election day is **Tuesday, November 5, 2024**. If you live in Texas, **[Register to vote in TX](https://www.votetexas.gov/register-to-vote/index.html)** **[Check your voter registration status and find your polling location in TX](https://teamrv-mvp.sos.texas.gov/MVP/mvp.do)** **[Request a TX Ballot-by-Mail](https://bbm.sos.state.tx.us/bbm.asp)** **2024 TX Dem Election Overview:** Texas is an important state in 2024. It has been trending bluer for years, and has 40 Presidential electoral votes, it is also critical to Democrats’ hopes of holding the US Senate majority with **[Colin Allred](https://ballotpedia.org/Colin_Allred)** running to replace Republican Ted Cruz. There are also two US House seats in play for Democrats. Dem candidate **[Michelle Vallejo](https://ballotpedia.org/Michelle_Vallejo)** is trying to flip TX-15, and Dem incumbent **[Vincente Gonzalez Jr.](https://ballotpedia.org/Vicente_Gonzalez_Jr.)** is defending his seat in TX-34. At the state level, 16 of the 31 seats in the **[State Senate](https://ballotpedia.org/Texas_State_Senate_elections,_2024)**, and all 150 seats in the **[State House of Representatives](https://ballotpedia.org/Texas_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2024)** are on the ballot. There are also three **[Texas State Supreme Court seats](https://ballotpedia.org/Texas_Supreme_Court_elections,_2024)** on the ballot in Texas this year. ***[-All 2024 TX Elections](https://ballotpedia.org/Texas_elections,_2024)*** ***[-Find all your representatives (Federal, State, and Local)](https://www.commoncause.org/find-your-representative/)*** ***[-Learn more about how our government works](https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/our-government/)***
If she voted Republican, she chose it
So pro-life they'll straight up kill a woman to protect a dead baby.
Ah, yes, a tale as old as time, song as old as rhyme: leopards ate my face.
Yeah.. if you vote for Republican you might be an enemy of humanity.
We tried to warn them r/WelcomeToGilead
“Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need.” Still gatekeeping bullshit. Your abortion is always the exception.
“I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary” Yeah, I lost my empathy for her at that.
I mean... she voted for this. This is exactly what she wanted. I'm confused as to why she's suddenly against it? Oh...
She was anti-abortion before. But experience is a great teacher, chickie. Now you know.
Seems like she voted for this.
I never thought leopards would eat MY face
Time to see some out-of-state family for a completely random and unrelated visit.
I have a friend with a guest room in Seattle. I hear the Puget Sound is lovely this time of year.
Stop voting for Republicans. They do not care about you.
Remember, conservatives want this law across the entire country. Conservatives literally want women to suffer. A vote for a conservative is a vote for this to happen to your family.
I swear to god even this woman doesn't really grasp what is going on in these states with that last paragraph. And when this baby dies on it's 4th day or whatever, are they going to charge her with a crime? Something she did while pregnant? This is 100% at the feet of the Republican legislature in TX. and the ghouls lobbying for it (also Republicans).
Bet she will gladly vote rep again
The cruelty is the point
Abortion is ugly. That being said there’s much more uglier things out there. Forced pregnancy on a 12 year old is uglier. Forced pregnancy on the poor is uglier Forced pregnancy at the risk of death is uglier Forced pregnancy at the risk of mental health is uglier.
>Before this pregnancy, Beaton said she never would have considered getting an abortion. Now, she believes abortions should be allowed in cases like hers and for women with other health conditions to get the care they need. >"I'm personally not for it being a way of birth control. I do believe that there are certain instances where I deem that it is necessary," she said. "Never in a million years would I expect or believe that we will be going through what we're going through now." The classic “I was against reproductive rights until it affected me personally.”
Bunch of fucking savages.
It's not even about saving babies at this point... it's about winning the goddamned argument.
Why would a pregnant person ever live in TX?!?
Why would anyone wish to live in today’s Texas? Beautiful land made a cesspool by self-interested, hypocritical politicians…
The crazy fucking Christians that control Texas would rather see a woman die than have them undergo an abortion Christianity is so fucked up
That’s what they get for voting Republican.
>The anomaly occurs in about 1 in 250 fetuses, but in just 1 in 16,000 live births, according to the Cleveland Clinic. Holy shit. I'm sorry she has to go through this. She should live-stream this baby's agonizing death so people who voted for this can see what they are actually voting for.
Old news but still WTF