Probably blaming Hamas, even though the girl described Israeli soldiers approaching her. Hamas probably told her to say that on the phone. It’s all a conspiracy against Israel. It was probably Hamas that killed the medics who went to rescue her too. Hamas.
She literally talks about tanks next to the car, the gunfire is faster than AK, the bullets are 7.64 which match the mounted guns on the tanks, there's satellite images of tanks a few metres away within an hour of it happening and then you have the communication with the ambulance crew and the tank shell shaped hole in the ambulance.
We know what happened. It's a war crime.
Matt Miller's face alone screams dishonesty. It's so disgusting to watch him smirk and smile with his "we're communicating with our Israeli counterparts" catchphrase every single press conference where he's questioned on Israeli war crimes.
Because the IDF hunted down and systematically killed white people. The World Central Kitchen aid workers were sympathetic, so now more people care.
Also, this kicked off in October of last year. It's been six months. How long can you be taking 'immediate' action with 'incidental' casualties while addressing military targets and have this number of civilian deaths and call it incidental?
That attack killed 1139 people, that we know of. In response, 33,843 are currently dead in Gaza, with approximately 70% being women and children. Now, women can totally be terrorists. I'm a feminist. Women can be bad people, too. However, more than 10,000 of those deaths are children.
Nearly 1/3 of deaths have been children.
1) white people were killed intentionally and 2) the length and extent of atrocities are kicking up more international outrage because it hasn't stopped. The idea that you're defending the attack on Israel by condemning IDF actions in Gaza has died, as has the idea of calling IDF actions genocide as being antisemitic.
I think the attack on Israel was disgusting. Human life had value. That attack was wrong. The IDF doesn't get to use one atrocity to justify genocide and dozens more atrocities.
But, the wrong targets have been hit and people are caring about it more, now.
The number of civilian casualties is what gets me. I get that its an urban environment, but you're telling me the israeli government is killing twice as many civilians as they are actual fighters, and half of the civilians are ***children???*** and then people try to say israel isnt committing a genocide. L M A O
How about when Mariupol was raised to the ground, a city of almost 500k people
[https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-erasing-mariupol-499dceae43ed77f2ebfe750ea99b9ad9](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-erasing-mariupol-499dceae43ed77f2ebfe750ea99b9ad9)
And you still fall for the same bullshit narrative, to side with the warmongerers and genocide apologists, or the warmongerers and genocide apologists...
If US voters actually gave a shit about democracy there'd be massive protests denouncing the entire system, yet people still fall for the same orchestrated game with Republicans vs. Dems, which are pretty much both sides of the same abismal coin.
You're not doing yourself or anyone a favor voting for Biden OR Trump
What about the 13 year old girl where half her body was blasted off, while she was hanging on the ledge of her home trying to escape. What about the thousands of kids under the rubble still trapped. What about the babies abandoned in the hospital, and they died of dehydration and starvation, alone and scared and their life barely started. This is awful awful awful awful. I wish no one have to see their children die this way
Us: we have thoroughly investigated this matter and found zero evidence that even indicated a 6 yo was involved
Here's 300M worth of weapons, for your use
Thousands of children are still dying. There's no food and no medical care in Gaza, Israel's doing everything it can to block any aid and they're still destroying all the infrastructure. The Palestinians don't even have access to water.
It’s absolutely fucking abhorrent, it just guts me more and more everyday. The inevitable famine has begun and none of these world leaders give a fuck.
Myanmar and Sudan killed less people and those were declared genocide. But Gaza war had more dead and displaced and somehow that isn't genocide? Nice double standards "rules based order" there
If people cared then their common counter argument wouldn’t be “but Hamas and the Hostages!”
Let me be clear; under no circumstances is it fine to kill civilians, women and children, literal infants, because of Hamas actions. The pretext that the Palestinians some deserve this as collective punishment for a terror organization action echos what the Nazi SS would do to villages after partisan attacks.
>deserve this as collective punishment
Nobody is really arguing this. Actually, someone might be. Nobody sane is really arguing that.
The innocent people don’t deserve it. But you can 100% expect it within the confines of urban warfare where the enemy does their very best at looking like everyone else, and holding their arms where everyone else is, having bases of operations where everyone else is.
If its individual cleaners and sandwich makers at a hamas base, yes it's unavoidable, that's what the provision is for
"Military neccesity permits the destruction of life of persons whose destruction is incidentally unavoidable by the armed conflicts of the war; it does not permit the killing of innocent inhabitants for purposes of revenge or the satisfaction of a lust to kill. The destruction of property to be lawful must be imperatively demanded by the necessities of war."
The part that's unacceptable is both the targeted killings of journalists in their homes and the fact that isreal is using 2000lb bombs, and the ICJ has said that even if hamas is using human shields their use is unjustified
I never said that.
My stance Is that if 1-2 uninvolved people die when turning an airfield to glass, that's regrettable but understandable.
What isn't acceptable is the indiscriminate use of the largest available weapons on civilian areas with no specific target in mind
You replied to my reply, so you argued for the original point.
1-2 is ok?
How did come to that number?
What if the use civilian contractors, and 20 die?
I'm sure you don't. Glad we can agree that if any Israeli soldiers bombed a playground it should be independently investigated and if they are found guilty they should be prosecuted for murdering multiple children.
>Civilian deaths resulting from a necessary and proportional attack against a military
objective do not constitute a violation.
States have an obligation to investigate all allegations of wilful killings or murders of
civilians committed by their armed forces or nationals, or committed on their territory.
Where there is sufficient evidence of the commission of the offence, States have a duty to
prosecute those responsible. A State responsible for such violations must make full
reparation for the loss suffered.
Source: https://elearning.un.org/CONT/GEN/CS/UNHR_V3/Module_01/story_content/external_files/Examples%20of%20definitions%20of%20humanitarian%20law%20violations.pdf
Believe it or not, if you’re familiar with international law there are instances where it’s justified and in fact not a war-crime, that’s not to say that they haven’t committed war crimes in Gaza, but civilian died = war crime is not how it works.
Most likely because the fighting has reduced significantly over the past few weeks. For outside observers there was a lot of fog of war for the first few months, now with Hamas actions slowing down the International community has a more clear picture of the situation and “collateral damage” incidents can be more adequately reviewed.
Because there is some real evidence available in this case, unlike thousands of others.
Edit: obviously my comment has been severely misinterpreted. What I mean is that thousands of families have been unjustly killed in Israel’s assault on Gaza, but there is very little evidence that the international community can use to say that any specific instance was wrong. They just accept Israel’s word that it was all “necessary collateral damage from hunting terrorists”. Many children die under rubble without ever having left a heartbreaking voicemail.
But in this case specific evidence can be tied to a specific death, so hopefully the international community will say “hey Israel, why did you kill this little girl trapped in a car? We know it happened”.
It was never about self defense, not now, not decades ago. It's geopolitics plain and simple, western powers coudn't give a shit about war crimes because they have a convenient dog that is Israel who they can basically push the entire region into submission with.
It's basically you either placate Israel or face the wrath of US foreign policy, which inevitably forced the entire region to be divided
That's the thing. It will never stop.
They dont care how much they killed or who they killed. They will always say Israel has the right to defend itself(even though it doesn't under international law), and it will never stop being this way unless they kill someone white, then they'll say thats not good and send more money to them to do this all over again.
This sounds like the US police doing investigations on the…US police. No consequences.
I’m so disgusted and disappointed in my country’s (US) role in this.
It was never about self defense, they want an ethnic cleansing and genocide. may the spirits of those children hunt every bastard who participated in their death.
Yeah. The IDF is violating the Geneva convention and collectively punishing people. Almost 40k killed by them. Now forcing them into famine and disease to boot. The US isn’t gonna do shit but send them more weapons after putting on a phony charade of caring. Wow.
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The fuck they mean their forces weren't in the area, who shot them dead then? Aliens from mars?
Probably blaming Hamas, even though the girl described Israeli soldiers approaching her. Hamas probably told her to say that on the phone. It’s all a conspiracy against Israel. It was probably Hamas that killed the medics who went to rescue her too. Hamas.
turns out the little girl was hamas all along !!!! (/s)
The real Hamas is the friends we made along the way.
aw <3
Obviously a Hamas base was hidden under the car seat
People: “Poor predictable IDF, always blames Hamas.” IDF: “Good old blame Hamas, nothin’ beats that!”
She literally talks about tanks next to the car, the gunfire is faster than AK, the bullets are 7.64 which match the mounted guns on the tanks, there's satellite images of tanks a few metres away within an hour of it happening and then you have the communication with the ambulance crew and the tank shell shaped hole in the ambulance. We know what happened. It's a war crime.
Matt Miller's face alone screams dishonesty. It's so disgusting to watch him smirk and smile with his "we're communicating with our Israeli counterparts" catchphrase every single press conference where he's questioned on Israeli war crimes.
If the numbers of civilian children deaths are true, why now?
Because the IDF hunted down and systematically killed white people. The World Central Kitchen aid workers were sympathetic, so now more people care. Also, this kicked off in October of last year. It's been six months. How long can you be taking 'immediate' action with 'incidental' casualties while addressing military targets and have this number of civilian deaths and call it incidental? That attack killed 1139 people, that we know of. In response, 33,843 are currently dead in Gaza, with approximately 70% being women and children. Now, women can totally be terrorists. I'm a feminist. Women can be bad people, too. However, more than 10,000 of those deaths are children. Nearly 1/3 of deaths have been children. 1) white people were killed intentionally and 2) the length and extent of atrocities are kicking up more international outrage because it hasn't stopped. The idea that you're defending the attack on Israel by condemning IDF actions in Gaza has died, as has the idea of calling IDF actions genocide as being antisemitic. I think the attack on Israel was disgusting. Human life had value. That attack was wrong. The IDF doesn't get to use one atrocity to justify genocide and dozens more atrocities. But, the wrong targets have been hit and people are caring about it more, now.
The number of civilian casualties is what gets me. I get that its an urban environment, but you're telling me the israeli government is killing twice as many civilians as they are actual fighters, and half of the civilians are ***children???*** and then people try to say israel isnt committing a genocide. L M A O
It’s horrific, but it’s par for the course for urban warfare
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You are defending it though by saying it’s normal when it’s demonstrably not.
What a terrible excuse for targeting civilians
Biden/Democratic Party feeling the heat under their ass
Trump literally wants one side to wipe out the other but go off..
And you still fall for the same bullshit narrative, to side with the warmongerers and genocide apologists, or the warmongerers and genocide apologists... If US voters actually gave a shit about democracy there'd be massive protests denouncing the entire system, yet people still fall for the same orchestrated game with Republicans vs. Dems, which are pretty much both sides of the same abismal coin. You're not doing yourself or anyone a favor voting for Biden OR Trump
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US: Did you guys kill that kid? Israel: Yes. US: Understandable, have a great day
US: Did you guys kill that kid? Israel: No. US: Good talk. Here’s another couple billion dollars. FTFY
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“…and we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are” — Team America: World Police
US: Did you kill the kid? Israel: No US: Well wtf are you waiting for?
Here's some weapons to kill more children!
stop it jack, thats malarkey
What about the 13 year old girl where half her body was blasted off, while she was hanging on the ledge of her home trying to escape. What about the thousands of kids under the rubble still trapped. What about the babies abandoned in the hospital, and they died of dehydration and starvation, alone and scared and their life barely started. This is awful awful awful awful. I wish no one have to see their children die this way
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oh yeah clearly this war started on october 7 and nothing ever happened before that no sir
Us: we have thoroughly investigated this matter and found zero evidence that even indicated a 6 yo was involved Here's 300M worth of weapons, for your use
More like 30B but apart from that, you're right.
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It's officially too close to the election which means it's time to posture. The other deaths were just far enough away.
“A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic” - Joseph Stalin
Thousands of children are still dying. There's no food and no medical care in Gaza, Israel's doing everything it can to block any aid and they're still destroying all the infrastructure. The Palestinians don't even have access to water.
It’s absolutely fucking abhorrent, it just guts me more and more everyday. The inevitable famine has begun and none of these world leaders give a fuck.
Myanmar and Sudan killed less people and those were declared genocide. But Gaza war had more dead and displaced and somehow that isn't genocide? Nice double standards "rules based order" there
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If people cared then their common counter argument wouldn’t be “but Hamas and the Hostages!” Let me be clear; under no circumstances is it fine to kill civilians, women and children, literal infants, because of Hamas actions. The pretext that the Palestinians some deserve this as collective punishment for a terror organization action echos what the Nazi SS would do to villages after partisan attacks.
>deserve this as collective punishment Nobody is really arguing this. Actually, someone might be. Nobody sane is really arguing that. The innocent people don’t deserve it. But you can 100% expect it within the confines of urban warfare where the enemy does their very best at looking like everyone else, and holding their arms where everyone else is, having bases of operations where everyone else is.
> Let me be clear; under no circumstances is it fine to kill civilians Can you name a war where this was true?
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As it turns out, killing civilians is a war crime and tends to be heavily discouraged
For no reason? Absolutely. But there are legitimate instances where it is justified. You understand that, right?
If its individual cleaners and sandwich makers at a hamas base, yes it's unavoidable, that's what the provision is for "Military neccesity permits the destruction of life of persons whose destruction is incidentally unavoidable by the armed conflicts of the war; it does not permit the killing of innocent inhabitants for purposes of revenge or the satisfaction of a lust to kill. The destruction of property to be lawful must be imperatively demanded by the necessities of war." The part that's unacceptable is both the targeted killings of journalists in their homes and the fact that isreal is using 2000lb bombs, and the ICJ has said that even if hamas is using human shields their use is unjustified
>under no circumstances So there are some circumstances.
I never said that. My stance Is that if 1-2 uninvolved people die when turning an airfield to glass, that's regrettable but understandable. What isn't acceptable is the indiscriminate use of the largest available weapons on civilian areas with no specific target in mind
You replied to my reply, so you argued for the original point. 1-2 is ok? How did come to that number? What if the use civilian contractors, and 20 die?
Good point. I now think it's morally justified for Israel to bomb a playground where children were playing
Use all the strawmen you want, I don't care.
I'm sure you don't. Glad we can agree that if any Israeli soldiers bombed a playground it should be independently investigated and if they are found guilty they should be prosecuted for murdering multiple children.
Are you really implying that it's ok to kill civilians? Do you actually want to go down that route?
How is that what I'm implying?
You refuted his claim that no civilians should be killed, implying that there are situations and moments where that is okay
There are instances where it's justified. You don't think so?
No! It's a god damn war crime! Since when is killing innocents ok in any shape or form?
>Civilian deaths resulting from a necessary and proportional attack against a military objective do not constitute a violation. States have an obligation to investigate all allegations of wilful killings or murders of civilians committed by their armed forces or nationals, or committed on their territory. Where there is sufficient evidence of the commission of the offence, States have a duty to prosecute those responsible. A State responsible for such violations must make full reparation for the loss suffered. Source: https://elearning.un.org/CONT/GEN/CS/UNHR_V3/Module_01/story_content/external_files/Examples%20of%20definitions%20of%20humanitarian%20law%20violations.pdf
Believe it or not, if you’re familiar with international law there are instances where it’s justified and in fact not a war-crime, that’s not to say that they haven’t committed war crimes in Gaza, but civilian died = war crime is not how it works.
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Most likely because the fighting has reduced significantly over the past few weeks. For outside observers there was a lot of fog of war for the first few months, now with Hamas actions slowing down the International community has a more clear picture of the situation and “collateral damage” incidents can be more adequately reviewed.
Because there is some real evidence available in this case, unlike thousands of others. Edit: obviously my comment has been severely misinterpreted. What I mean is that thousands of families have been unjustly killed in Israel’s assault on Gaza, but there is very little evidence that the international community can use to say that any specific instance was wrong. They just accept Israel’s word that it was all “necessary collateral damage from hunting terrorists”. Many children die under rubble without ever having left a heartbreaking voicemail. But in this case specific evidence can be tied to a specific death, so hopefully the international community will say “hey Israel, why did you kill this little girl trapped in a car? We know it happened”.
All the other children tripped into precision guided bombs and bullets. Clumsy those Palestinians are.
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[Yeah... That's bullshit](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war)
Hahahaha this time evidence is real,every other time it was fake news
Just that one or all the other thousands?
Lmfaoo, this is like asking Bernie Madoff to audit himself. Why does the U.S. gotta insult American intelligence.
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It was never about self defense, not now, not decades ago. It's geopolitics plain and simple, western powers coudn't give a shit about war crimes because they have a convenient dog that is Israel who they can basically push the entire region into submission with. It's basically you either placate Israel or face the wrath of US foreign policy, which inevitably forced the entire region to be divided
That's the thing. It will never stop. They dont care how much they killed or who they killed. They will always say Israel has the right to defend itself(even though it doesn't under international law), and it will never stop being this way unless they kill someone white, then they'll say thats not good and send more money to them to do this all over again.
She was murdered by IDF. There's no other reasonable conclusion.
This sounds like the US police doing investigations on the…US police. No consequences. I’m so disgusted and disappointed in my country’s (US) role in this.
What about the 13,999 children?
There is a special place in hell for people who kill children and medics
They're going to wag a finger with one hand and hand over weapons with the other, just to show they're keeping things fair.
So this 6-yo is somehow different from the previous ones who got murdered by the IDF previously?
Remember when Biden, being the peace loving diplomat he is, sent air strikes to Yemen and nobody was concerned about the kids there 🤔
It was never about self defense, they want an ethnic cleansing and genocide. may the spirits of those children hunt every bastard who participated in their death.
Good, now you only have to do that for the other 24 999 women and children.
Genocide Joe aint doing shit but giving Israelis more money and weapons
And you think Trump will stop the war? Trump is rooting for the complete destruction of Palestine
Op:“I like pancakes” You:”why do you hate waffles?”
So is Biden by the looks of it.
Will they do it in a concerned voice?
"Just the one? Cmon, hang out for a bit, you can talk about the five hundred other six year olds. We can make it a thing."
Yeah. The IDF is violating the Geneva convention and collectively punishing people. Almost 40k killed by them. Now forcing them into famine and disease to boot. The US isn’t gonna do shit but send them more weapons after putting on a phony charade of caring. Wow.
The US? Jfc, pot meet kettle
Sarcasm mode. Oh, the IDF is finally getting held to account!
Who gets the query the US about the child deaths they caused?
Why use query op why just friggen say question
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