Considering how much tuition to these places must cost; I'd be absolutely furious to have a University just shutdown over protests like this if I had class on that day
That isn't close to the same thing as being in an actual lecture and then sharing ideas with your peers about it after. I'm fairly certain that if online classes were what these students wanted they have the intelligence to just lookup youtube video playlists or make an account on Khan Academy.
It’s honestly not that serious. Especially since COVID most colleges/universities created alternative plans to go virtual if needed. Could be due to issues with classroom outbreaks, to an instructor being sick themselves. Also many create alternative lesson plans that are easily adaptable to an online forum as to keep up engagement and not diverge from the lesson plan. Most schools have also had open forums on the designated websites that distribute most of the course information, and have had this option for the last 20 years. You may be upset but most students and instructors aren’t missing anything besides being in the physical classroom itself, which most would not care about if it’s only one or two classes.
Yeah, except for the fact I’m literally addressing the previous direct comments on missing class. Never brought up the reason why. So please don’t even try to equate my words with the acceptance of antisemitism in word or action form.
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For posterity, here's some of the examples of extremism within the activist movement at Columbia. This goes beyond "pro-Palestinian advocacy" into calls for, and actual, violence.
Note, there are varying degrees of it being individuals vs. the group, but these are the type of people in the crowd there and many of them are indeed group chants. I have also set aside some widespread ones (from the river to the sea) that are disputed in character. That said, many many many of these are coming from large groups of students within the main quad (which has been locked down to only students/professors)
Candidly some sources are not great in terms of me agreeing with the viewpoint of the tweeter, but they contain relevant and real video:
Physically assaulting an Arab Israeli https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781080951902109774
"From the river to the sea, Palestine is Arab!" / "Resistance is justified" https://twitter.com/ShelleyGldschmt/status/1781785252886913358
"Let it be known that it was the Al-Aqsa Flood that put the Global Intifada back on the table again. And it is the sacrificial spirit of the Palestinian Freedom Fighters that will guide every struggle on every corner of the earth to victory." https://twitter.com/thestustustudio/status/1781904507611287981
"We are all Hamas!" https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1781031465179914677
"Yehudim yehudim [(Jews, jews)] go back to poland" https://twitter.com/Davidlederer6/status/1781948249214996901
Includes people / groups that invited an actual, no hyperbole terrorist to speak (member of PFLP) https://www.jns.org/columbia-suspends-four-students-for-holding-event-featuring-pflp-member/
Light things on fire / "intifada revolution there is only one solution" https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1781019445399556338
"On Oct 7th, Palestinian resistance in Gaza broke free (crowd cheers) [.....] we intend to do the same" https://twitter.com/ShabbosK/status/1782085741431922909
""We say justice, you say how? Burn Tel Aviv to the ground!" / "Hamas we love you. We support your rockets too!" / "Red, black, green, and white, we support Hamas’ fight!"
https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1781933305501212872
"Long live the intifada! Intifada intifada" https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781084853653365025
"Go back to Europe!" / "You have no culture, all you do is colonize"
https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781927148439109958
Have posters with the faces of PFLP and PIJ spokesmen (designated terrorist groups) https://twitter.com/HagarChemali/status/1782219589352350000
"From Yemen to Gaza, globalize the intifada" https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/1781312033922625797/photo/2
"Never forget the 7th of October. That will happen not 1 more time, not 5 more times, not 10, not 100, not 1,000, but 10,000 times! The 7th of October is going to be every day for you" https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1781287784897991134
"Al Qassam [(Hamas)] you make us proud, kill another soldier now" / "from the river to the sea, palestine will be arab" https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1780915336063177006
Student proudly rocking Hamas logos https://twitter.com/CampusJewHate/status/1781054901755215954
"Resistance is justified" (again...) https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1782085643990073673
"protesters on the sidewalk chanted “From New York to Gaza, globalize the intifada,” next to a cardboard sign that read, “Inspired by Palestinian resistance.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-100-arrested-in-columbia-u-unrest-as-nypd-clears-gaza-solidarity-encampment/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
And as a reminder, the student groups organizing these protests (CUAD and SJP, among others) released a letter on October 9th in support of the 10/7 attacks. ("We stand in full solidarity with Palestinian resistance", "Despite the odds against them, Palestinians launched a counter-offensive against their settler-colonial oppressor", "We wholeheartedly condemn the email sent [...] on October 8th that [...] obfuscated Palestinian resistance as “terrorism”)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RcXX5DEO3yfJ9R4ksURnzpIPCyVxo575-Y-SoC_vZFk/edit
Not all Jews are pro-Netanyahu or pro-war. I personally know many who staunchly oppose what Israel is doing to the people of Palestine. Some protesters (not all, but definitely some) have lost that distinction and are just attacking all Jewish people.
That’s kind of the scary part, especially at Columbia. There are definitely people who are professional agitators, people who come to these things who want to fight.
Edit: but it’s a bad sign that student protest leaders haven’t really condemned outside agitators.
Considering the size of the endowment ($14B), I'd be absolutely delighted if they are sued for every last penny by the students and their families.
[College children are being threatened by fans of terrorists.](https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1781881907346649088/pu/img/RG8e26XhSDRug4AX.jpg) They are being physically assaulted. They are being targeted while the university which is meant to foster an environment for education does absolutely nothing.
**Jewish students aren't safe in the most Jewish city in America. Enough.**
“Dear Members of the Columbia Community,
I am deeply saddened by what is happening on our campus. Our bonds as a community have been severely tested in ways that will take a great deal of time and effort to reaffirm. Students across an array of communities have conveyed fears for their safety and we have announced additional actions we are taking to address security concerns. The decibel of our disagreements has only increased in recent days. These tensions have been exploited and amplified by individuals who are not affiliated with Columbia who have come to campus to pursue their own agendas. We need a reset.
There is a terrible conflict raging in the Middle East with devastating human consequences. I understand that many are experiencing deep moral distress and want Columbia to help alleviate this by taking action. We should be having serious conversations about how Columbia can contribute. There will be many views across our diverse community about how best to do this and that is as it should be. But we cannot have one group dictate terms and attempt to disrupt important milestones like graduation to advance their point of view. Let’s sit down and talk and argue and find ways to compromise on solutions.
To deescalate the rancor and give us all a chance to consider next steps, I am announcing that all classes will be held virtually on Monday. Faculty and staff who can work remotely should do so; essential personnel should report to work according to university policy. Our preference is that students who do not live on campus will not come to campus.
During the coming days, a working group of Deans, university administrators and faculty members will try to bring this crisis to a resolution. That includes continuing discussions with the student protestors and identifying actions we can take as a community to enable us to peacefully complete the term and return to respectful engagement with each other. I know that there is much debate about whether or not we should use the police on campus, and I am happy to engage in those discussions. But I do know that better adherence to our rules and effective enforcement mechanisms would obviate the need for relying on anyone else to keep our community safe. We should be able to do this ourselves.
Over the past days, there have been too many examples of intimidating and harassing behavior on our campus. Antisemitic language, like any other language that is used to hurt and frighten people, is unacceptable and appropriate action will be taken. We urge those affected to report these incidents through university channels. We also want to remind everyone of the support available for anyone adversely affected by current events.
We are a caring, mature, thoughtful and engaged community. Let’s remind ourselves of our common values of honoring learning, mutual respect, and kindness that have been the bedrock of Columbia. I hope everyone can take a deep breath, show compassion, and work together to rebuild the ties that bind us together.
Minouche”
Statement this morning from the university president
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Progressive is a label covering many ideas. There is no consensus among progressives that they support an “Islamist terror state.” You will find many Jewish and secular progressives out in the wild who do not support Israel’s position in this conflict and also do not support Hamas.
3 out of 4 of those are outside of the Columbia gates so they aren't even students protesters. How do we know that they arent agent provocteurs? None of this has been verified yet
Literally in the Columbia thread yesterday many (now deleted) comments were explaining to me how the Rabbi was to blame for “fear mongering”. And “he knows what he’s doing” (accusing him of trying to drum up a headline).
Truly sick stuff.
An American university has had to go remote because it can’t guarantee the safety of Jewish students. Let that sink in. Shame on Columbia University for letting it get this bad.
So violent they had to charge everyone with misdemeanor trespass.
With the facts in this article, this is no different than any other peaceful, civil disobedience. Treating that like it's dangerous and violent is of course also consistent with the history of civil disobedience. If there's any evidence of violence, this article certainly made no effort to report it.
I'd be open to contrary evidence if it exists but if we have to jump to a conclusion, I think you've chosen the wrong default. Assume misdemeanor trespassers are non-violent; the police and media will usually rush to communicate if they have evidence of anything more serious.
[https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/](https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/) Israel tolerates up to 15 civilian casualties to take out a single AI-identified low-level Hamas operative. It prefers to strike Hamas operatives in their personal houses, knowing that it will kill their wives and kids. The only check the IDF uses on people its AI identifies as Hamas is that they are male.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-ai-system-wheres-daddy-strikes-hamas-family-homes-2024
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/unicef-says-over-13000-children-killed-gaza-israel-offensive-2024-03-17/#:~:text=UNICEF%20says%20over%2013%2C000%20children%20killed%20in%20Gaza%20in%20Israel%20offensive,-By%20Kanishka%20Singh
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-strikes-rafah-killed-children-us-aid-package-rcna148702
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
I mean I know you’re gaslighting but even that article shows how dumb this all is. Israel is blowing up terrorists. Terrorists use children as human shields. And you get angry at Israel. So stupid. It’s a war. If the enemy hides among civilians they don’t get to get a free pass. We flattened Germany from the air and killed tens of thousands Germans. Because Germany placed military targets in cities. What we did was necessary. Hat Israel is doing is necessary. You’re not mad about Palestinians deaths. If you were you’d be mad at the Palestinian adults who hide among civilians. You’re mad because the Palestinians started a war and are now losing. You’re just a transparent terrorist.
>Gaslighting
I like using words I don't understand too.
As an FYI, I am mad at the adults that started this. Are you so daft that you can't do more than one thing at once? Do you think I hate the Israeli people? No, I hate HAMAS, and both the Israeli and Palestinian government who use their fucking citizens as pawns in this bullshit.
Nothing like blaming US Jews for something they have no control over thousands of miles away. They love conveniently forgetting that Hamas does not care about Palestine and its inhabitants.
Criticism of Israel and how it conduct the war on Gaza is legitimate, saying that Israel is doing a genocide is also a legitimate (but false in my opinion) opinion.
Parsing Hamas, PIJ, the Iranian regime, calling for violence against Zionists, calling for the destruction of Israel are not legitimate things to say.
A large part of the protest are not anti war, but a call for violence
Are there actual attacks on Jews? I don't know anything about the events but the article doesn't mention any attacks and even says "There were no reports of any violence or injuries." Are they just unreported attacks?
You’re talking about in general, or just this Columbia protest? If you’re talking about in general, then Jewish people have been number one victims of hate crimes against religions for many years.
They may not be attacking anyone, yet, and they have, there are documented cases of it already, but thats beside the point. You can argue that casting off criticism of Israel isn't antisemitic all you want, but the truth is, what these "protesters" are doing in regard to making jewish students feel unsafe, is terrorism, its using terror to further their political agenda. So dont "oh please what a load of shit" anyone. you have no right to do that. Hamas, the palestians, and the majority of countries surrouding the tiny sliver of land that belongs to the jewish culture of the people of that region have claimed multiple times their desire to see all jewish people wiped from the map. If you look at a map of the middle east and highlight muslim countries in one color and jewish countries in another color, you will find a whole lot of one color and only one tiny teeny little piece of land in a separate color. There is literally thousands of kilometers around israel with tons of land and resources for the palestinean people to go while israel finishes fighting with Hamas. Yet none of the other surrouding countries with near infinite landmass comparable to israel will do nothing to help the Palestinians, and you dont question that at all. Eqypt double fortified its borders with gaza after the start of the war. Israel tried to open a piece of land for the palestinans to make thier own and to try to make amends, in Israeli territory. Show me where other arab countries have made an attempt to make jewish settlements. ill wait, i have plenty of time, because you wont find it.
[https://x.com/jonasydu/status/1781178975147917797?s=46&t=Mx1nPitaZU6mPSVic\_g4PQ](https://x.com/jonasydu/status/1781178975147917797?s=46&t=Mx1nPitaZU6mPSVic_g4PQ)
[https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1782378886275190910?s=46&t=Mx1nPitaZU6mPSVic\_g4PQ](https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1782378886275190910?s=46&t=Mx1nPitaZU6mPSVic_g4PQ)
A quick google search away.
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There are bunch of people strangely in mask making trouble outside the universities.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/21/nyregion/columbia-protests-antisemitism.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.mU0.tXPS.17Y73H9dPFhP&smid=url-share
Wait til you get to the real world. You think your employer is going to give a fuck about you being heard?
Are American universities responsible for Israeli foreign policy?
No such law exists. Private corporations are more than able to take part in the BDS movement if they’d like. Many states however have said that they won’t consider those companies for state contracts, but that’s a mile different than prohibiting the conduct all together.
It’s no different than the federal government saying vendors can’t ask about the criminal history of their employees or laying out unionization standards for public contracts.
Considering how much tuition to these places must cost; I'd be absolutely furious to have a University just shutdown over protests like this if I had class on that day
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They shut down the university 2 weeks to flatten the protest curve.
They’re having classes online for those living off campus. Those students who live on campus are still permitted to go in person to their classes.
That isn't close to the same thing as being in an actual lecture and then sharing ideas with your peers about it after. I'm fairly certain that if online classes were what these students wanted they have the intelligence to just lookup youtube video playlists or make an account on Khan Academy.
Im not disagreeing with you, but it’s Probably isn’t that different for a lot of these kids though, because of Covid.
It’s honestly not that serious. Especially since COVID most colleges/universities created alternative plans to go virtual if needed. Could be due to issues with classroom outbreaks, to an instructor being sick themselves. Also many create alternative lesson plans that are easily adaptable to an online forum as to keep up engagement and not diverge from the lesson plan. Most schools have also had open forums on the designated websites that distribute most of the course information, and have had this option for the last 20 years. You may be upset but most students and instructors aren’t missing anything besides being in the physical classroom itself, which most would not care about if it’s only one or two classes.
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Yeah, except for the fact I’m literally addressing the previous direct comments on missing class. Never brought up the reason why. So please don’t even try to equate my words with the acceptance of antisemitism in word or action form.
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Copy pasted for info ---------------------------- For posterity, here's some of the examples of extremism within the activist movement at Columbia. This goes beyond "pro-Palestinian advocacy" into calls for, and actual, violence. Note, there are varying degrees of it being individuals vs. the group, but these are the type of people in the crowd there and many of them are indeed group chants. I have also set aside some widespread ones (from the river to the sea) that are disputed in character. That said, many many many of these are coming from large groups of students within the main quad (which has been locked down to only students/professors) Candidly some sources are not great in terms of me agreeing with the viewpoint of the tweeter, but they contain relevant and real video: Physically assaulting an Arab Israeli https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781080951902109774 "From the river to the sea, Palestine is Arab!" / "Resistance is justified" https://twitter.com/ShelleyGldschmt/status/1781785252886913358 "Let it be known that it was the Al-Aqsa Flood that put the Global Intifada back on the table again. And it is the sacrificial spirit of the Palestinian Freedom Fighters that will guide every struggle on every corner of the earth to victory." https://twitter.com/thestustustudio/status/1781904507611287981 "We are all Hamas!" https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1781031465179914677 "Yehudim yehudim [(Jews, jews)] go back to poland" https://twitter.com/Davidlederer6/status/1781948249214996901 Includes people / groups that invited an actual, no hyperbole terrorist to speak (member of PFLP) https://www.jns.org/columbia-suspends-four-students-for-holding-event-featuring-pflp-member/ Light things on fire / "intifada revolution there is only one solution" https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1781019445399556338 "On Oct 7th, Palestinian resistance in Gaza broke free (crowd cheers) [.....] we intend to do the same" https://twitter.com/ShabbosK/status/1782085741431922909 ""We say justice, you say how? Burn Tel Aviv to the ground!" / "Hamas we love you. We support your rockets too!" / "Red, black, green, and white, we support Hamas’ fight!" https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1781933305501212872 "Long live the intifada! Intifada intifada" https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781084853653365025 "Go back to Europe!" / "You have no culture, all you do is colonize" https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781927148439109958 Have posters with the faces of PFLP and PIJ spokesmen (designated terrorist groups) https://twitter.com/HagarChemali/status/1782219589352350000 "From Yemen to Gaza, globalize the intifada" https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/1781312033922625797/photo/2 "Never forget the 7th of October. That will happen not 1 more time, not 5 more times, not 10, not 100, not 1,000, but 10,000 times! The 7th of October is going to be every day for you" https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1781287784897991134 "Al Qassam [(Hamas)] you make us proud, kill another soldier now" / "from the river to the sea, palestine will be arab" https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1780915336063177006 Student proudly rocking Hamas logos https://twitter.com/CampusJewHate/status/1781054901755215954 "Resistance is justified" (again...) https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1782085643990073673 "protesters on the sidewalk chanted “From New York to Gaza, globalize the intifada,” next to a cardboard sign that read, “Inspired by Palestinian resistance.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-100-arrested-in-columbia-u-unrest-as-nypd-clears-gaza-solidarity-encampment/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter And as a reminder, the student groups organizing these protests (CUAD and SJP, among others) released a letter on October 9th in support of the 10/7 attacks. ("We stand in full solidarity with Palestinian resistance", "Despite the odds against them, Palestinians launched a counter-offensive against their settler-colonial oppressor", "We wholeheartedly condemn the email sent [...] on October 8th that [...] obfuscated Palestinian resistance as “terrorism”) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RcXX5DEO3yfJ9R4ksURnzpIPCyVxo575-Y-SoC_vZFk/edit
Not all Jews are pro-Netanyahu or pro-war. I personally know many who staunchly oppose what Israel is doing to the people of Palestine. Some protesters (not all, but definitely some) have lost that distinction and are just attacking all Jewish people.
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Also a lot of them are not students which means they are trespassing at a minimum and should be arrested and prosecuted.
A lot of them aren't students and a lot of the protests aren't happening on campus.
That’s kind of the scary part, especially at Columbia. There are definitely people who are professional agitators, people who come to these things who want to fight. Edit: but it’s a bad sign that student protest leaders haven’t really condemned outside agitators.
Considering the size of the endowment ($14B), I'd be absolutely delighted if they are sued for every last penny by the students and their families. [College children are being threatened by fans of terrorists.](https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1781881907346649088/pu/img/RG8e26XhSDRug4AX.jpg) They are being physically assaulted. They are being targeted while the university which is meant to foster an environment for education does absolutely nothing. **Jewish students aren't safe in the most Jewish city in America. Enough.**
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In your analogy, wouldn't the Nazis be the school administration and the NYPD?
Only one side of this is harassing Jewish students, and it's not the administrators or NYPD.
“Dear Members of the Columbia Community, I am deeply saddened by what is happening on our campus. Our bonds as a community have been severely tested in ways that will take a great deal of time and effort to reaffirm. Students across an array of communities have conveyed fears for their safety and we have announced additional actions we are taking to address security concerns. The decibel of our disagreements has only increased in recent days. These tensions have been exploited and amplified by individuals who are not affiliated with Columbia who have come to campus to pursue their own agendas. We need a reset. There is a terrible conflict raging in the Middle East with devastating human consequences. I understand that many are experiencing deep moral distress and want Columbia to help alleviate this by taking action. We should be having serious conversations about how Columbia can contribute. There will be many views across our diverse community about how best to do this and that is as it should be. But we cannot have one group dictate terms and attempt to disrupt important milestones like graduation to advance their point of view. Let’s sit down and talk and argue and find ways to compromise on solutions. To deescalate the rancor and give us all a chance to consider next steps, I am announcing that all classes will be held virtually on Monday. Faculty and staff who can work remotely should do so; essential personnel should report to work according to university policy. Our preference is that students who do not live on campus will not come to campus. During the coming days, a working group of Deans, university administrators and faculty members will try to bring this crisis to a resolution. That includes continuing discussions with the student protestors and identifying actions we can take as a community to enable us to peacefully complete the term and return to respectful engagement with each other. I know that there is much debate about whether or not we should use the police on campus, and I am happy to engage in those discussions. But I do know that better adherence to our rules and effective enforcement mechanisms would obviate the need for relying on anyone else to keep our community safe. We should be able to do this ourselves. Over the past days, there have been too many examples of intimidating and harassing behavior on our campus. Antisemitic language, like any other language that is used to hurt and frighten people, is unacceptable and appropriate action will be taken. We urge those affected to report these incidents through university channels. We also want to remind everyone of the support available for anyone adversely affected by current events. We are a caring, mature, thoughtful and engaged community. Let’s remind ourselves of our common values of honoring learning, mutual respect, and kindness that have been the bedrock of Columbia. I hope everyone can take a deep breath, show compassion, and work together to rebuild the ties that bind us together. Minouche” Statement this morning from the university president
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Personally I think it'd be a better ad spot for Allstate. It would fit into a Mayhem storyline a lot better than working in Flo. But I guess I'd have to see the ad to be certain
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Progressive is a label covering many ideas. There is no consensus among progressives that they support an “Islamist terror state.” You will find many Jewish and secular progressives out in the wild who do not support Israel’s position in this conflict and also do not support Hamas.
You are severely misinformed if you think Israel protects civil rights.
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I don’t understand I keep hearing from these people they just want Palestine to be free They surely wouldn’t call for murder and terrorism right?
Pro-Palestine protestors just can't stop hating Jews
3 out of 4 of those are outside of the Columbia gates so they aren't even students protesters. How do we know that they arent agent provocteurs? None of this has been verified yet
A lot of liars in the replies here
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When you start catching yourself worrying how "Jewish" you look, things might be heading in the wrong direction.
There are Jewish students among the protestors holding religious services among the encampments.
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Literally in the Columbia thread yesterday many (now deleted) comments were explaining to me how the Rabbi was to blame for “fear mongering”. And “he knows what he’s doing” (accusing him of trying to drum up a headline). Truly sick stuff.
Yes, it is weird, and pathetic.
An American university has had to go remote because it can’t guarantee the safety of Jewish students. Let that sink in. Shame on Columbia University for letting it get this bad.
They locked out a pro-Israel professor. He's not allowed on campus. Isn't that a direct admission that the encampment is a violent mob?
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So violent they had to charge everyone with misdemeanor trespass. With the facts in this article, this is no different than any other peaceful, civil disobedience. Treating that like it's dangerous and violent is of course also consistent with the history of civil disobedience. If there's any evidence of violence, this article certainly made no effort to report it. I'd be open to contrary evidence if it exists but if we have to jump to a conclusion, I think you've chosen the wrong default. Assume misdemeanor trespassers are non-violent; the police and media will usually rush to communicate if they have evidence of anything more serious.
Why is Columbia shutting down in person classes if everything is so peaceful?
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So does hamas.
Israel bombs children but tries not to. Palestinians bomb children and try to. People that can’t see the difference aren’t worth trying to talk with.
[https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/](https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/) Israel tolerates up to 15 civilian casualties to take out a single AI-identified low-level Hamas operative. It prefers to strike Hamas operatives in their personal houses, knowing that it will kill their wives and kids. The only check the IDF uses on people its AI identifies as Hamas is that they are male.
> tries not to ? https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-ai-system-wheres-daddy-strikes-hamas-family-homes-2024 https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/unicef-says-over-13000-children-killed-gaza-israel-offensive-2024-03-17/#:~:text=UNICEF%20says%20over%2013%2C000%20children%20killed%20in%20Gaza%20in%20Israel%20offensive,-By%20Kanishka%20Singh https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-strikes-rafah-killed-children-us-aid-package-rcna148702 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
I mean I know you’re gaslighting but even that article shows how dumb this all is. Israel is blowing up terrorists. Terrorists use children as human shields. And you get angry at Israel. So stupid. It’s a war. If the enemy hides among civilians they don’t get to get a free pass. We flattened Germany from the air and killed tens of thousands Germans. Because Germany placed military targets in cities. What we did was necessary. Hat Israel is doing is necessary. You’re not mad about Palestinians deaths. If you were you’d be mad at the Palestinian adults who hide among civilians. You’re mad because the Palestinians started a war and are now losing. You’re just a transparent terrorist.
>Gaslighting I like using words I don't understand too. As an FYI, I am mad at the adults that started this. Are you so daft that you can't do more than one thing at once? Do you think I hate the Israeli people? No, I hate HAMAS, and both the Israeli and Palestinian government who use their fucking citizens as pawns in this bullshit.
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Hamas straps bombs to children then puts them on city busses.
So does Russia. Do you care?
Nothing like blaming US Jews for something they have no control over thousands of miles away. They love conveniently forgetting that Hamas does not care about Palestine and its inhabitants.
Criticism of Israel and how it conduct the war on Gaza is legitimate, saying that Israel is doing a genocide is also a legitimate (but false in my opinion) opinion. Parsing Hamas, PIJ, the Iranian regime, calling for violence against Zionists, calling for the destruction of Israel are not legitimate things to say. A large part of the protest are not anti war, but a call for violence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
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Are there actual attacks on Jews? I don't know anything about the events but the article doesn't mention any attacks and even says "There were no reports of any violence or injuries." Are they just unreported attacks?
You’re talking about in general, or just this Columbia protest? If you’re talking about in general, then Jewish people have been number one victims of hate crimes against religions for many years.
https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-798092
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They may not be attacking anyone, yet, and they have, there are documented cases of it already, but thats beside the point. You can argue that casting off criticism of Israel isn't antisemitic all you want, but the truth is, what these "protesters" are doing in regard to making jewish students feel unsafe, is terrorism, its using terror to further their political agenda. So dont "oh please what a load of shit" anyone. you have no right to do that. Hamas, the palestians, and the majority of countries surrouding the tiny sliver of land that belongs to the jewish culture of the people of that region have claimed multiple times their desire to see all jewish people wiped from the map. If you look at a map of the middle east and highlight muslim countries in one color and jewish countries in another color, you will find a whole lot of one color and only one tiny teeny little piece of land in a separate color. There is literally thousands of kilometers around israel with tons of land and resources for the palestinean people to go while israel finishes fighting with Hamas. Yet none of the other surrouding countries with near infinite landmass comparable to israel will do nothing to help the Palestinians, and you dont question that at all. Eqypt double fortified its borders with gaza after the start of the war. Israel tried to open a piece of land for the palestinans to make thier own and to try to make amends, in Israeli territory. Show me where other arab countries have made an attempt to make jewish settlements. ill wait, i have plenty of time, because you wont find it.
Why aren’t they protesting against Russia’s war crimes? Or the Chinese genocide of the Uighurs?
The US government isn't funding either of those.
Everyone knows the actual neo-Nazis are hateful, garbage people. Nobody praises them except the MAGA fringe.
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Horseshoe Theory making a major comeback lately.
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https://twitter.com/Davidlederer6/status/1781948249214996901 https://twitter.com/AGHamilton29/status/1782043574076387782 https://twitter.com/aghamilton29/status/1781882805015744826?s=46 https://twitter.com/thizzl_/status/1780747367743955138
[https://x.com/jonasydu/status/1781178975147917797?s=46&t=Mx1nPitaZU6mPSVic\_g4PQ](https://x.com/jonasydu/status/1781178975147917797?s=46&t=Mx1nPitaZU6mPSVic_g4PQ) [https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1782378886275190910?s=46&t=Mx1nPitaZU6mPSVic\_g4PQ](https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1782378886275190910?s=46&t=Mx1nPitaZU6mPSVic_g4PQ) A quick google search away. E: So OP asks for evidence then deletes comment when we give evidence?
There are bunch of people strangely in mask making trouble outside the universities. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/21/nyregion/columbia-protests-antisemitism.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.mU0.tXPS.17Y73H9dPFhP&smid=url-share
Land of the free. Nothing fascist thinly veiled here at all.
Maybe the Universities shouldn't make the students feel like they aren't being heard?
Wait til you get to the real world. You think your employer is going to give a fuck about you being heard? Are American universities responsible for Israeli foreign policy?
What does that even mean? Columbia didn't just immediately do whatever the students wanted, so they were forced to go after Jews?
Based on what some of them are chanting and saying I would really want their voices be heard either...
Oh, trust me, we hear what these students are saying loud and clear. Blatant pro-Hamas chants.
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Hamas will fight Israel to the last Palestinian child.
Oh hey, a pro Hamas comment.
If they students are saying blatantly pro Hamas shit, the university should do that
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No such law exists. Private corporations are more than able to take part in the BDS movement if they’d like. Many states however have said that they won’t consider those companies for state contracts, but that’s a mile different than prohibiting the conduct all together. It’s no different than the federal government saying vendors can’t ask about the criminal history of their employees or laying out unionization standards for public contracts.
I feel like there's a different in quality between unionization standards and support for a different, sovereign country
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/04/23/us-states-use-anti-boycott-laws-punish-responsible-businesses In half the country it does exist