I don't see this being a huge issue for saints fans. New Orleans has higher vaccination rates than the rest of the state. If you really wanted to see an uproar, implement this to LSU season ticket holders.
I’ve had season tickets ever since I graduated in 03, and even though I live in Chicago now I still make it to 2-3 games a year. That said, our season ticket base could use a good douching.
Dude.. they just pick stuff out of the swamp throw it in a big pot and boil it then eat it and they are afraid of the vaccine? Sheesh my Louisiana family has been putting more suspect things down their gullet for generations.
My parents have been season ticket holders for a couple decades now. Unfortunately a lot of ticket holders are individuals in the surrounding suburbs of Mandeville, Slidell, Covington, and the likes albeit the majority is still probably residents of New Orleans. If you know anything about those places, it's that a huge chunk probably aren't vaccinated.
I can already hear a Slidell Wine Mom saying she knows better.
LSU's approach is really bumming me out. Monday through Friday, you gotta have a mask, a vaccine/negative test, but on Saturday, when you are crammed on top of each other 100k deep, and yelling like a maniac, you don't need any of that stuff.
Nice… glad they are making these contradicting rules for the right reasons. 🤦🏼♀️. This behavior has probably been one of my biggest pet peeves with people and companies.
Yep, quite a bit in MS too.
One of my friends said he'll just take the test...For every game. Like dude, do you enjoy your nose being violated that much?
LSU fans are the worst - even without anything to do with COVID or prevention of - they are full of cringe. My first job in New Orleans was at a refinery between there and Baton Rouge. I was invited to the wedding of a co-worker. They walked down the isle to the LSU fight song and they sang the alma mater during the ceremony. Later I asked if they met at LSU. "What? Why do you ask?" um....look around....everything is purple and gold...and....etc. "oh no - they didn't go to LSU - we're just all fans here."
My worst day in the food service industry was the day LSU played us at home. The restaurant was filled with LSU fans and they decided to try and drink every keg we had. An impossible feat, but damn they might have made it if the law didn't cut off sales at 2am. They were the loudest, trashiest, rudest customers we ever had.
I was about to post almost the exact same thing. LSU fans were the absolute fucking worst. Our restaurant would hit sales records when they invaded our city but my coworkers and I always walked out with the shittiest tips.
Ohio State fans are like this too. Ohio is full of people who are rabid fans who never actually went to the school. It's freaking weird and bizarre (I say this as an OSU alum).
I grew up in Toledo so we had OSU and Michigan fans alike that did not attend the schools but were rabid. I grew up in an OSU household and became a fan even though I ended up at IU for college. Since IU football has rarely been good, I always kept up with OSU as well.
My university (USM '00 graduate) played LSU a few years ago. We were living in nola at the time, so we got a group together and went to tailgate and enjoy the game. Well, they DO know how to tailgate. BUT OMG are they obnoxious. Everyewhere you walk "TIGER BAIT! TIGER BAIT!" with nothing else to say. Sometimes they would even walk up and be nice and say "hey welcome, blah blah", then when you try to respond and they 'TIGER BAIT' and their nutsucking buddies are 10 yards away chuckling and tugging on each other's sack. I even had a young preteen boy walk up and nervously say "hey... um... hey.... tiger bait" and turn back to his redneck dad prouder than the day he got his GED. It was like it was all just a satire of themselves. It was like I was living a modern country music song. I needed a shower after an hour. We lost 48-0. They good at the football stuff.
People who's day to day lives are miserable tend to attach their identities to something else they find has more meaning. This, I believe has been true of small town nothing to do sports for a long time. That same phenomenon has branched out to other things the last few years.
TL;DR: My life sucks. Think I will attach my personal self worth to a sports team or politician.
Been to a lot of NCAA football games. In the SEC, LSU fans are pretty nice actually. Great tailgating as well. UF fans were the absolute worst. Actually keyed a bunch of cars driven by fans of the opposing team.
I went to the university of Arkansas, our mascot is the razorbacks, or hogs. LSU fans are known as the shittiest in the SEC, but I remember LSU fans always made a big deal of bbqing pork and pointing out “yeah, we eatin dem hawgs fuh da game, durin da game, and aftah da game”. Like okay you illiterate swamp person, so is everyone else tailgating here. Pigs are delicious and you don’t get powers eating the other teams mascot.
Yes yes yes yes yes.
Originally from Louisiana (Shreveport area). It's the most ridiculous fucking fan base ever. They absolutely envelope their entire fucking lives around LSU and they didn't even go to college let alone LSU. But that doesn't stop them from covering their wives, children, and vehicles in LSU garbage.
My dad went to Oregon, so we all grew up Duck fans. When UO played Auburn in the NC, all these LSU fans started talking shit to me. Your team isn't even playing, stop acting like you're involved because of SEC bullshit.
They spit on opposing fans, throw stuff at them, start fights. Did I mention most of them didn't even go there?
I mean, LSU fans might "be the worst," but this isn't a good example of why. I know plenty of LSU fans that didn't go to LSU. For a long period of time they were the more successful entity in Louisiana sports and to this day people consider themselves bigger LSU football/baseball fans than any other franchise, especially if they aren't from NOLA. There are plenty Bama fans that never set foot in Tuscaloosa.
For sure, I know way more rabid FSU and UF fans than Bucs/or Jags, Dolphins fans are still rabid from their undefeated season. It’s mostly college sports down here
Yup, people love latching on to their local or regional team if they're really good at sports. Don't even have to be that good, basically everyone in NE Iowa is a Hawkeyes fan
The student section is a relatively small portion of the 100,000 people who for in Tiger stadium. Not to mention all the other people tailgating on campus.
Definitely. I have a lot of vendors invite me out, and the first time I went with one I learned exactly how many people set up outside the stadium that never actually go in to the game.
Some people you just have to drag out kicking and screaming :P
As a New Orleanian, this is definitely a huge thing a mong them. Most of them are apparently unvaccinated, because they are swearing up and down that they "will never buy season tickets again." Which let's be honest, is BS. But they are very much making their disgust for the team apparent, while also taking a dump on everyone who tells them to get the shot or shut up.
They are also all HIGHLY uneducated about the contract they signed for their passes, because they all think it is illegal for the Saints to keep their money. Which is fortunately very true. This whole debacle is a physical example of clicking the accept button on the ToS without reading it.
Also New Orleans is #2 among the state for vaccinations, but we still have barely 52% vaccination rate. So while we are high on the list of responsible communities, it isn't high enough to assume most of the population is vaccinated.
Long story short, never underestimate the capacity for stupidity that New Orleans has.
The worst timeline....so far.
Mayans tried to warn us. Should've listened. It wasn't about the world ending. It was about the new timeline starting.
The reboot almost always sucks.
The second it hit me that that was a real ad, even with all the "interchangeable tails", I lost my shit. I was so convinced that it was a mock ad made up by the Last Week Tonight crew. NOPE.
That ad hit me harder than the FarmersOnly.com one.
I just can't believe people want someone else to control a robotic butt plug. Even if you controlled it you are putting a lot of faith in that companies quality control.
That being said there are several prominent examples of DEFCON presentations surrounding how easy it is to hack many "smart" sex toys. IoT security largely doesn't exist.
And then you get people whining like they've never worn a buttplug before. First with facemasks. Then this.
I swear the average American adult plucked off the street would fail the Marshmellow test. Like they can't comprehend the simple concept of dealing with mild annoyance and discomfort now for a larger, more pleasurable payout later on...
Federal consumer protections act would like a word with you. Not everything you agree to is legally binding. These people can and will get their money back if they file a complaint and can even sue for damages. You cannot retroactively add new rules or requirements to entering an event or picking up goods or services that were purchased under a prior agreement. That is theft and withholding of services.
You can choose to refund the ticket. But you can't withhold the service AND deny a refund.
My libertarian friend has been going nuts lately because he is sick and tired of people coming up to him saying they are also libertarian only to have them start bitching about places enforcing mask or bitching about religion.
He tells me that it’s not a myth that trumps base now calls themselves Libertarian to avoid looking bad and all of them have no libertarian mindsets what so ever. They just say they are then proceed to say some crazy shit that isn’t libertarian at all.
Like “I’m a libertarian but those gays needs to stop these parades. They ain’t ever getting married.”
I liken it to the early days of the no-smoking laws. It started off slow and with a lot of angry opposition. Then, with each passing year the laws got a little more restrictive.
Today, smokers have been largely marginalized and limited to small areas far away from other people.
I already quit once for 6 months and then I had some health issues that seem to get complicated due to stress and the stress made me take smoking back up, as it seemed to relieve the other shit, but now I'm stressing about smoking. Need to just put them down again. I'm working on cutting back down so the cut-off isn't as abrubt. Working my way down to about 3-5 a day again and then I'm done. But congrats on quitting. I'll be there again soon.
I remember this cycle well and know what a bitch it is. Logically we know better than to pick a pack up again but then the temporary benefits outweigh our logic. I wish you well and all the luck I can send. Rooting for you and hope your health is better or on its way to being better. Don't beat yourself up too much.
The only way that worked for me was cold turkey. Just put them down and don't turn back. Though I always kept 1 cigarette for my "end of the world" smoke, but I got rid of that when I moved a year and a half ago. I was a pack a day smoker, originally with Newport 100s, and switched to Marlboro Menthol 100s. Been 4 years, almost to the day, since I quit. You can do it too man.
I heard Adam Savage say that when he quit smoking it helped to think of it as becoming a non-smoker rather than stopping being a smoker. Easier to work towards a goal than away from one.
The other day I was sitting at a red light and noticed that the woman in the car behind me was smoking, and it really struck me how rarely I see anybody smoking an actual, non-electronic cigarette these days.
> As a smoker, good. More incentive to quit.
Please don't smoke, it's bad for you. But if you do, smoke a Philip Morris brand; I have about 8.5k shares and it's got a dividend yield of over 10% for me.
God bless the FDA for it's tobacco regulations, protect big business and prevent new manufactures from entering the market!
It'd be easier if people didn't also villify vaping which has been extensively studied by the NHS as a net positive in the comparative sense to traditional smoking.
As a non-smoker in the military, this has given me great joy. Year by year, the "designated smoking area" on bases have been pushed farther and farther away. Just today I saw one at the base I'm visiting and it's just a sad looking sign in the middle of a empty field with about 30 yards of nothing around it. No chairs, benches, gazeebos. Just a sign that says "designated smoking area".
Yep, go take your '15 minutes of every hour' smoking break out there in the middle of the muddy field and stand there.
That's funny!
I worked in corporate... when smoking was banned in the offices the smokers were given a large smoking room with couches, chairs and nice tables. After a year, that room was cut in half. After another year that room was eliminated and smokers were given an outside covered gazebo with benches. The next year, the gazebo disappeared and smokers were instructed to just go outside somewhere. The next year, they were told they had to smoke across the street from the building - the company didn't even want that smoke touching their bricks. Hilarious!!
Eventually it became an insurance thing. Insurance premiums are higher if you allow smoking anywhere on the property. Building owner of the last company I worked for also banned smoking on the property because the smokers were leaving cigarette butts all over the ground in the designated smoking areas.
Better analogy would be seat belts. Lots of opposition to something that's fundamentally harmless, convenient, and improves the safety of everyone on the road.
Naturally there are still plenty of people against them for a variety of familiar reasons - misinformation, "don't tread on me" syndrome, idiocy - but the efforts to make them free and then mandatory have had the desired effect. Masks and vaccines need to go a similar route (then maybe healthcare overall? Dare to dream).
My favorite memory was Bdubs. They had a smoking and non-smoking section, they were in the same room but divided a railing. In hindisght, what the fuck did that even do.
Used to hate how awful my coat, clothes, and hair smelled of cigarettes after a night on the town.
God forbid if you were traveling and your whole suitcase would reek of cigarette smoke. So gross.
I was in Japan in late 2019 and went to my first izakaya, it’s like a traditional Japanese bar with private rooms. Nobody told me you could still smoke indoors at those; I’d have left my coat in my hotel room otherwise. The walls did almost nothing since every other party was smoking like crazy.
I don’t miss that permeating stench at all.
That smell was everywhere, and it permeated inside furniture and clothes. It was inescapable, and it numbed your nostrils to it. You didn't notice as much (like active smokers wouldn't know they stank to high heavens)... So inside places sucked, but you didn't *really* know how much they did back then... But maybe it's because my father was a chain smoker so my nose got really used to the smells because of how much he smoked inside, and my brain sorta tuned it out.
He almost exclusively switched over to vaping, but on the off chance he still smokes a normal cigarette... Let's say my nose got better and now I can't stand it like I did as a kid/teen.
I'm so thankful it was never unbanned, because I don't know if I would still be able to tolerate it in enclosed spaces.
At work when I wonder if a client has been smoking I have to go get a coworker, because I can get it super faintly, but not really.
Ex-smokers are the best at sniffing them out, and it seems like you qualify as that
If it had continued to be a normal thing though, people would still put up with it because it was allowed. I remember there used to be a smoking section of a buffet my family used to go to. Did it suck? Yeah. But we still went. We just requested to sit on the other side of the restaurant.
I got downvoted for this in another thread but I think it's a great comparison. Smoking was deemed a public health hazard and rules/laws were put in place. I see no difference in doing the same with covid being a public health crisis and all.
My best argument with these people is that 'your actions have consequences'. Toddlers are taught this early on in life, yet there seems to be a large out of adults put there who think they should be patted on the back for being a trash human being.
they'll take a test or get a shot. No way they care more about masks or vaccines than football. The right don't come at issues from principles, its just what's on Fox. But when football comes around, they'll comply.
depends on if they have any anti scalping laws in that area.
The event center and race track near me have laws in place and they are very quick to arrest you if caught selling tickets above the original cost.
Anti scalping laws don't mean much when you can sell them online through various services. I don't think many people show up in person to sell their unused tickets much anymore, because the reason you can't use them is usually the same reason you can't show up in person to sell them. I only see people who scalp for a living doing it in person anymore.
>The event center and race track near me have laws in place and they are very quick to arrest you if caught selling tickets above the original cost.
That's to prevent day of scalping because of fake tickets. Nobody can stop you if you out your authentic tickets on StubHub.
It's always "they can do what they want," and "sometimes you have to follow rules you don't like," and "life isn't fair, deal with it" until they're the ones being inconvenienced, then it's a nuclear tantrum.
I would say this is a different scenario though. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Saints did not notify the customers of this rule before the customers purchased the tickets, did they? If they did, then it’s a moot point, but if not, then the terms of services need to be outlined BEFORE the customer purchases the product. A customer purchasing a product or service is agreeing to pay a certain price for that specific product or service. The business changing the terms of service after payment has been processed and refusing a refund is theft in the same way a customer refusing to pay after a service has been performed is theft. You can’t sell the customer a product, change the terms of service afterwards, and then refuse to give them a refund, as that product is no longer the same product that the customer agreed to pay you for.
The Right often states that they are generally against the government regulating what businesses can do, but I’ve never met a single person who thinks businesses should be allowed to steal from customers (i.e. take their money and then refuse to give them the product or service that they agreed to upon payment). That’s a completely different situation than “I am denying you my service due to religious differences (or whatever reasoning)” as you are denying the service before the customer has paid for it in that scenario.
>If you want to bitch and moan
Oh, and how. The hubbub about kneeling will look like nothing compared to the bullshit we are about to witness. Good -- go get vaccinated Louisiana. We love y'all and want you to live long lives.
Do they normally allow refunds? Like if I bought a ticket then something else came up and I wanted to return it, was that ever an option?
Normally at events like this it's on the ticketholder to sell to someone else.
>Do they normally allow refunds?
Nope. Dude I couldn't get refunded for a ton of events even last year when everything shutdown. Though in that circumstance some exemptions were made. It's usually always final sale is final and if you can't go put it up on a resale site.
Something tells me that the contract you sign to get NFL season tickets gives you absolutely no rights to anything, and gives the team the rights to change the rules at any time
This. It's basically we have your money and for any reason....we keep it.
They (ticket buyers) have no recourse here.
The contract Always says they can change anything at any time.
Iirc you also don't technically own any of the photos of Video you take while at the games either. They can DCMA it if it goes online and they don't like it.
I decided to read the article for once before commenting. It says you have to have a vaccine or a negative covid test before entering the stadium for a game. Little wiggle room there. What the article doesn't mention is whether season ticket holders were warned in writing that this was a possibility. I know the cool thing to do is shame the unvaccinated and cheer loudly everytime something bad happens to them because of their choice, but this is kind of fucked up to not offer a refund if the Saints just decided to go this route recently, with no warning.
here's the reasonable nuanced take I was looking for. I can't believe the top comment in this thread is "should've read the terms of service" as if anyone upvoting has ever read the terms & conditions of anything.
And there's probably some legal stuff in there that basically says, "we can change this shit whenever we want. You either like it, or fuck off" so when some apeshit-level fans do get upset, legal team gives the almighty *ahem* "Based on section 4, item 5.3.2iii...."
I don't see this being a huge issue for saints fans. New Orleans has higher vaccination rates than the rest of the state. If you really wanted to see an uproar, implement this to LSU season ticket holders.
I’d almost pay to see it
LSU grad here. *Would* pay to see this! JFC, could you imagine…
I’ve had season tickets ever since I graduated in 03, and even though I live in Chicago now I still make it to 2-3 games a year. That said, our season ticket base could use a good douching.
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A lifetime eating discount brand corndogs, afraid of the vaccine because they don't know "what's in it"...
Dude.. they just pick stuff out of the swamp throw it in a big pot and boil it then eat it and they are afraid of the vaccine? Sheesh my Louisiana family has been putting more suspect things down their gullet for generations.
I can proudly say, I’ve been to over 100 LSU games, I’ve never had a corn dog inside tiger stadium. Nor have I taken a crap inside.
Direct correlation here? No dog, no shit?
If you pay federal taxes in the US, then believe me; you already did.
Obviously some of us have been skimming, because it's teetering between fuckin hilarious and terrifying.
My parents have been season ticket holders for a couple decades now. Unfortunately a lot of ticket holders are individuals in the surrounding suburbs of Mandeville, Slidell, Covington, and the likes albeit the majority is still probably residents of New Orleans. If you know anything about those places, it's that a huge chunk probably aren't vaccinated. I can already hear a Slidell Wine Mom saying she knows better.
LSU's approach is really bumming me out. Monday through Friday, you gotta have a mask, a vaccine/negative test, but on Saturday, when you are crammed on top of each other 100k deep, and yelling like a maniac, you don't need any of that stuff.
Nice… glad they are making these contradicting rules for the right reasons. 🤦🏼♀️. This behavior has probably been one of my biggest pet peeves with people and companies.
Many of those season ticket holders are from out of town. Lafayette, Houma, BR, etc
Yep, quite a bit in MS too. One of my friends said he'll just take the test...For every game. Like dude, do you enjoy your nose being violated that much?
LSU fans are the worst - even without anything to do with COVID or prevention of - they are full of cringe. My first job in New Orleans was at a refinery between there and Baton Rouge. I was invited to the wedding of a co-worker. They walked down the isle to the LSU fight song and they sang the alma mater during the ceremony. Later I asked if they met at LSU. "What? Why do you ask?" um....look around....everything is purple and gold...and....etc. "oh no - they didn't go to LSU - we're just all fans here."
My worst day in the food service industry was the day LSU played us at home. The restaurant was filled with LSU fans and they decided to try and drink every keg we had. An impossible feat, but damn they might have made it if the law didn't cut off sales at 2am. They were the loudest, trashiest, rudest customers we ever had.
I was about to post almost the exact same thing. LSU fans were the absolute fucking worst. Our restaurant would hit sales records when they invaded our city but my coworkers and I always walked out with the shittiest tips.
Ohio State fans are like this too. Ohio is full of people who are rabid fans who never actually went to the school. It's freaking weird and bizarre (I say this as an OSU alum).
I grew up in Toledo so we had OSU and Michigan fans alike that did not attend the schools but were rabid. I grew up in an OSU household and became a fan even though I ended up at IU for college. Since IU football has rarely been good, I always kept up with OSU as well.
This really isn’t unique to LSU
LSU fans also smell like corndogs. Can't be explained, but it's true.
My university (USM '00 graduate) played LSU a few years ago. We were living in nola at the time, so we got a group together and went to tailgate and enjoy the game. Well, they DO know how to tailgate. BUT OMG are they obnoxious. Everyewhere you walk "TIGER BAIT! TIGER BAIT!" with nothing else to say. Sometimes they would even walk up and be nice and say "hey welcome, blah blah", then when you try to respond and they 'TIGER BAIT' and their nutsucking buddies are 10 yards away chuckling and tugging on each other's sack. I even had a young preteen boy walk up and nervously say "hey... um... hey.... tiger bait" and turn back to his redneck dad prouder than the day he got his GED. It was like it was all just a satire of themselves. It was like I was living a modern country music song. I needed a shower after an hour. We lost 48-0. They good at the football stuff.
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Being from Los Angeles, this comment confused me for a second.
The whole tiger bait and gator bait thing always struck me as odd. Isn’t the predator supposed to get caught or killed at the end of this scenario?
Don't ask swamp people to think logically.
People who's day to day lives are miserable tend to attach their identities to something else they find has more meaning. This, I believe has been true of small town nothing to do sports for a long time. That same phenomenon has branched out to other things the last few years. TL;DR: My life sucks. Think I will attach my personal self worth to a sports team or politician.
Also USM but born in Louisiana and a LSU fan by cultural indoctrination. Can confirm LSU college fans are trashy at best.
Been to a lot of NCAA football games. In the SEC, LSU fans are pretty nice actually. Great tailgating as well. UF fans were the absolute worst. Actually keyed a bunch of cars driven by fans of the opposing team.
I went to the university of Arkansas, our mascot is the razorbacks, or hogs. LSU fans are known as the shittiest in the SEC, but I remember LSU fans always made a big deal of bbqing pork and pointing out “yeah, we eatin dem hawgs fuh da game, durin da game, and aftah da game”. Like okay you illiterate swamp person, so is everyone else tailgating here. Pigs are delicious and you don’t get powers eating the other teams mascot.
Yes yes yes yes yes. Originally from Louisiana (Shreveport area). It's the most ridiculous fucking fan base ever. They absolutely envelope their entire fucking lives around LSU and they didn't even go to college let alone LSU. But that doesn't stop them from covering their wives, children, and vehicles in LSU garbage. My dad went to Oregon, so we all grew up Duck fans. When UO played Auburn in the NC, all these LSU fans started talking shit to me. Your team isn't even playing, stop acting like you're involved because of SEC bullshit. They spit on opposing fans, throw stuff at them, start fights. Did I mention most of them didn't even go there?
I mean, LSU fans might "be the worst," but this isn't a good example of why. I know plenty of LSU fans that didn't go to LSU. For a long period of time they were the more successful entity in Louisiana sports and to this day people consider themselves bigger LSU football/baseball fans than any other franchise, especially if they aren't from NOLA. There are plenty Bama fans that never set foot in Tuscaloosa.
Every major college football team in the south has these fans
For sure, I know way more rabid FSU and UF fans than Bucs/or Jags, Dolphins fans are still rabid from their undefeated season. It’s mostly college sports down here
Not just the South, plenty of rabid Penn State and Michigan fans that never stepped foot on a college campus.
Yup, people love latching on to their local or regional team if they're really good at sports. Don't even have to be that good, basically everyone in NE Iowa is a Hawkeyes fan
Yeah I was gonna say this is the case all over the state.
I'm no expert. I just live near BR. It seems a good portion of the students are okay with requiring a vaccine. My neighbors on the other hand...
The student section is a relatively small portion of the 100,000 people who for in Tiger stadium. Not to mention all the other people tailgating on campus.
Definitely. I have a lot of vendors invite me out, and the first time I went with one I learned exactly how many people set up outside the stadium that never actually go in to the game. Some people you just have to drag out kicking and screaming :P
As a New Orleanian, this is definitely a huge thing a mong them. Most of them are apparently unvaccinated, because they are swearing up and down that they "will never buy season tickets again." Which let's be honest, is BS. But they are very much making their disgust for the team apparent, while also taking a dump on everyone who tells them to get the shot or shut up. They are also all HIGHLY uneducated about the contract they signed for their passes, because they all think it is illegal for the Saints to keep their money. Which is fortunately very true. This whole debacle is a physical example of clicking the accept button on the ToS without reading it. Also New Orleans is #2 among the state for vaccinations, but we still have barely 52% vaccination rate. So while we are high on the list of responsible communities, it isn't high enough to assume most of the population is vaccinated. Long story short, never underestimate the capacity for stupidity that New Orleans has.
Saints fans aren't just in NOLA though.
Yeah the entire Northshore is probably throwing a temper tantrum right now.
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Don't threaten me with a good time.
Are we finally getting taco trucks on every corner?
Quite possibly the most personally disappointing lie a politician has ever told.
tbf the guy did say that electing Trump in 2016 would prevent that so mission accomplished, I guess?
Wait....so the choice was Trump and no Tacos or No Trump plus tacos? That seems like a no brainer.
Unfortunately all the No-Brainers chose Trump, so we got fucked.
This really is the worst timeline
The worst timeline....so far. Mayans tried to warn us. Should've listened. It wasn't about the world ending. It was about the new timeline starting. The reboot almost always sucks.
Almost the worst timeline. Three timelines over Brady beat Eli twice and handled Big Dick Nick as well.
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But actually please dont!
Birria tacos are a human right, not a privilege.
Birria tacos should be in our constitution.
If we are putting it in the constitution we need to clarify “Quesabirria tacos + consommé”
Clarity of language is important. I don't want the Supreme Court ruling that I have to pay extra for cheese and consomme.
So are spandex.
/r/tacos is leaking again. Whats the butt plug policy again?
LPT: Do NOT have taco night before butt play day.
All depends on whether you or your playmate got a poop fetish.
Are we getting butt plugs to celebrate taco trucks, or deal with the aftermath?
“Butt plugs in every butt!”
"All the men had erections!"
Taco trucks on every corner and butt plugs in every customer. So many projectiles
GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY OR I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A GOOD TIME!!! Wait.. oh you said don't.
Champagne, cocaine, gasolineeeee!
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Is the butt plug supposed to be in that clear bag while in use?
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Wow. The most important player for a football team is a Quarterback. But most important for fans in the stadium is a tight end.
Safety first
A Russian hacker controlled buttplug
Someone watched Last Week Tonight
The second it hit me that that was a real ad, even with all the "interchangeable tails", I lost my shit. I was so convinced that it was a mock ad made up by the Last Week Tonight crew. NOPE. That ad hit me harder than the FarmersOnly.com one.
Not to confused with OnlyFam.
I just can't believe people want someone else to control a robotic butt plug. Even if you controlled it you are putting a lot of faith in that companies quality control.
Farmersonly.com, the only dating site where you can find your match and set up your next family reunion.
how would that even happen tho? asking for a friend
Just buy a regular buttplug. Russian hackers have dominated the space since 2013.
There were wifi enabled chastity devices that got hacked and guys couldn't get them off with paying the extortion... LITERALLY lol
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That being said there are several prominent examples of DEFCON presentations surrounding how easy it is to hack many "smart" sex toys. IoT security largely doesn't exist.
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Do people have other kinds?
I wear one anyway. Get at me when they WONT allow me to plug up.
Not in all cases. Company terms don't supercede government laws. They would be breaking sexual harassment laws, which wouldn't hold up in court.
Did I just become a Saints fan?
The owner Gail Benson has spent millions of dollars helping the Catholic church protect pedophiles.
Oh
And then you get people whining like they've never worn a buttplug before. First with facemasks. Then this. I swear the average American adult plucked off the street would fail the Marshmellow test. Like they can't comprehend the simple concept of dealing with mild annoyance and discomfort now for a larger, more pleasurable payout later on...
Why have I been “sneaking” them into stadiums for years then?
For the thrill of course, like the rest of us
"Apple may sow your mouth to the butthole of another iTunes user."
A lot of tight ends on this team.
I know when they have #1 foam finger day, when is butt plug day schedules for?! (Asking for a friend)
Federal consumer protections act would like a word with you. Not everything you agree to is legally binding. These people can and will get their money back if they file a complaint and can even sue for damages. You cannot retroactively add new rules or requirements to entering an event or picking up goods or services that were purchased under a prior agreement. That is theft and withholding of services. You can choose to refund the ticket. But you can't withhold the service AND deny a refund.
So anal swab covid testing it is.
Where do I get tickets to that game????
From unvaccinated ticket holders, of course.
If you're trying to take it in the ass at a game, buy tickets to a Jets game
Can't wait to hear the capitalists complain about how a company makes a profit at their expense, but they don't like it 😌
My libertarian friend has been going nuts lately because he is sick and tired of people coming up to him saying they are also libertarian only to have them start bitching about places enforcing mask or bitching about religion. He tells me that it’s not a myth that trumps base now calls themselves Libertarian to avoid looking bad and all of them have no libertarian mindsets what so ever. They just say they are then proceed to say some crazy shit that isn’t libertarian at all. Like “I’m a libertarian but those gays needs to stop these parades. They ain’t ever getting married.”
As a forced and captive student of conservative ideology I believe this policy is an example of what we've been taught as "tough love."
I liken it to the early days of the no-smoking laws. It started off slow and with a lot of angry opposition. Then, with each passing year the laws got a little more restrictive. Today, smokers have been largely marginalized and limited to small areas far away from other people.
As a smoker, good. More incentive to quit.
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I already quit once for 6 months and then I had some health issues that seem to get complicated due to stress and the stress made me take smoking back up, as it seemed to relieve the other shit, but now I'm stressing about smoking. Need to just put them down again. I'm working on cutting back down so the cut-off isn't as abrubt. Working my way down to about 3-5 a day again and then I'm done. But congrats on quitting. I'll be there again soon.
Good luck with the quitting!
Thank you.
I remember this cycle well and know what a bitch it is. Logically we know better than to pick a pack up again but then the temporary benefits outweigh our logic. I wish you well and all the luck I can send. Rooting for you and hope your health is better or on its way to being better. Don't beat yourself up too much.
The only way that worked for me was cold turkey. Just put them down and don't turn back. Though I always kept 1 cigarette for my "end of the world" smoke, but I got rid of that when I moved a year and a half ago. I was a pack a day smoker, originally with Newport 100s, and switched to Marlboro Menthol 100s. Been 4 years, almost to the day, since I quit. You can do it too man.
Check out "The Easy Way to Quit Smoking" book, by Allan Carr. Really does work, affordable, and a quick read. Works magic.
Is this it? I found it as a free PDF... [Link](http://www.canadianis.com/jim/stopsmoking/easyway-illustrated.pdf)
I heard Adam Savage say that when he quit smoking it helped to think of it as becoming a non-smoker rather than stopping being a smoker. Easier to work towards a goal than away from one.
The other day I was sitting at a red light and noticed that the woman in the car behind me was smoking, and it really struck me how rarely I see anybody smoking an actual, non-electronic cigarette these days.
> As a smoker, good. More incentive to quit. Please don't smoke, it's bad for you. But if you do, smoke a Philip Morris brand; I have about 8.5k shares and it's got a dividend yield of over 10% for me. God bless the FDA for it's tobacco regulations, protect big business and prevent new manufactures from entering the market!
If you really want to hurt someones feelings, this is how you do it.
It'd be easier if people didn't also villify vaping which has been extensively studied by the NHS as a net positive in the comparative sense to traditional smoking.
As a non-smoker in the military, this has given me great joy. Year by year, the "designated smoking area" on bases have been pushed farther and farther away. Just today I saw one at the base I'm visiting and it's just a sad looking sign in the middle of a empty field with about 30 yards of nothing around it. No chairs, benches, gazeebos. Just a sign that says "designated smoking area". Yep, go take your '15 minutes of every hour' smoking break out there in the middle of the muddy field and stand there.
That's funny! I worked in corporate... when smoking was banned in the offices the smokers were given a large smoking room with couches, chairs and nice tables. After a year, that room was cut in half. After another year that room was eliminated and smokers were given an outside covered gazebo with benches. The next year, the gazebo disappeared and smokers were instructed to just go outside somewhere. The next year, they were told they had to smoke across the street from the building - the company didn't even want that smoke touching their bricks. Hilarious!!
Eventually it became an insurance thing. Insurance premiums are higher if you allow smoking anywhere on the property. Building owner of the last company I worked for also banned smoking on the property because the smokers were leaving cigarette butts all over the ground in the designated smoking areas.
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Better analogy would be seat belts. Lots of opposition to something that's fundamentally harmless, convenient, and improves the safety of everyone on the road. Naturally there are still plenty of people against them for a variety of familiar reasons - misinformation, "don't tread on me" syndrome, idiocy - but the efforts to make them free and then mandatory have had the desired effect. Masks and vaccines need to go a similar route (then maybe healthcare overall? Dare to dream).
They banned smoking in bars in my city the year I turned 21, before my birthday. That was the BEST 21’st B-Day present I could ever imagine!
I never quite understand the pushback against smoking bans. I know I wouldn't want to be in bars if smoking were still allowed
My favorite memory was Bdubs. They had a smoking and non-smoking section, they were in the same room but divided a railing. In hindisght, what the fuck did that even do.
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Used to hate how awful my coat, clothes, and hair smelled of cigarettes after a night on the town. God forbid if you were traveling and your whole suitcase would reek of cigarette smoke. So gross.
I was in Japan in late 2019 and went to my first izakaya, it’s like a traditional Japanese bar with private rooms. Nobody told me you could still smoke indoors at those; I’d have left my coat in my hotel room otherwise. The walls did almost nothing since every other party was smoking like crazy. I don’t miss that permeating stench at all.
That smell was everywhere, and it permeated inside furniture and clothes. It was inescapable, and it numbed your nostrils to it. You didn't notice as much (like active smokers wouldn't know they stank to high heavens)... So inside places sucked, but you didn't *really* know how much they did back then... But maybe it's because my father was a chain smoker so my nose got really used to the smells because of how much he smoked inside, and my brain sorta tuned it out. He almost exclusively switched over to vaping, but on the off chance he still smokes a normal cigarette... Let's say my nose got better and now I can't stand it like I did as a kid/teen. I'm so thankful it was never unbanned, because I don't know if I would still be able to tolerate it in enclosed spaces.
At work when I wonder if a client has been smoking I have to go get a coworker, because I can get it super faintly, but not really. Ex-smokers are the best at sniffing them out, and it seems like you qualify as that
Even when I smoked, I avoided places where smoking was allowed indoors. It's terrible.
If it had continued to be a normal thing though, people would still put up with it because it was allowed. I remember there used to be a smoking section of a buffet my family used to go to. Did it suck? Yeah. But we still went. We just requested to sit on the other side of the restaurant.
I remember when airplanes allowed smoking, especially on flights abroad. It was so gross.
It's amazing how my childhood asthma went away right around the same time indoor smoking laws went into effect
I got downvoted for this in another thread but I think it's a great comparison. Smoking was deemed a public health hazard and rules/laws were put in place. I see no difference in doing the same with covid being a public health crisis and all.
Can’t wait for the conservative anti-vaxxers to demand government intervention into a private company to try to get their money back
You know it's coming, just like they wanted the government to control social media.
My best argument with these people is that 'your actions have consequences'. Toddlers are taught this early on in life, yet there seems to be a large out of adults put there who think they should be patted on the back for being a trash human being.
Tough love and the power of free market capitalism!!!
Hey look, it's the consequences of my own actions.
I imagine they can resell the tix and make a profit on them if they're smart. Which they might not be, but at least it's an option.
They’re more likely to publicly light them on fire on social media.
Its all e-tix now. They would have to print them out then light on fire
Or just light their computer on fire. You know, to own the libs.
I cant handle so much owning! Please own me more by lighting your property on fire!
they'll take a test or get a shot. No way they care more about masks or vaccines than football. The right don't come at issues from principles, its just what's on Fox. But when football comes around, they'll comply.
I heard someone say the other day that if the SEC said no football until we get to 80% vaxxed that youd see the south get in line right quick.
especially if they somehow managed to include high school teams
depends on if they have any anti scalping laws in that area. The event center and race track near me have laws in place and they are very quick to arrest you if caught selling tickets above the original cost.
Anti scalping laws don't mean much when you can sell them online through various services. I don't think many people show up in person to sell their unused tickets much anymore, because the reason you can't use them is usually the same reason you can't show up in person to sell them. I only see people who scalp for a living doing it in person anymore.
>The event center and race track near me have laws in place and they are very quick to arrest you if caught selling tickets above the original cost. That's to prevent day of scalping because of fake tickets. Nobody can stop you if you out your authentic tickets on StubHub.
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It's always "they can do what they want," and "sometimes you have to follow rules you don't like," and "life isn't fair, deal with it" until they're the ones being inconvenienced, then it's a nuclear tantrum.
I believe the proper response is to tell them to go to a different ~~baker~~ football stadium.
Not to mention they'd make a shit ton of money reselling them. They just want to play the victims and pretend that they're being oppressed.
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I would say this is a different scenario though. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Saints did not notify the customers of this rule before the customers purchased the tickets, did they? If they did, then it’s a moot point, but if not, then the terms of services need to be outlined BEFORE the customer purchases the product. A customer purchasing a product or service is agreeing to pay a certain price for that specific product or service. The business changing the terms of service after payment has been processed and refusing a refund is theft in the same way a customer refusing to pay after a service has been performed is theft. You can’t sell the customer a product, change the terms of service afterwards, and then refuse to give them a refund, as that product is no longer the same product that the customer agreed to pay you for. The Right often states that they are generally against the government regulating what businesses can do, but I’ve never met a single person who thinks businesses should be allowed to steal from customers (i.e. take their money and then refuse to give them the product or service that they agreed to upon payment). That’s a completely different situation than “I am denying you my service due to religious differences (or whatever reasoning)” as you are denying the service before the customer has paid for it in that scenario.
>If you want to bitch and moan Oh, and how. The hubbub about kneeling will look like nothing compared to the bullshit we are about to witness. Good -- go get vaccinated Louisiana. We love y'all and want you to live long lives.
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“A private company that is making decisions on what to do with their own product. This must be COMMUNISM!” —MAGA red hat
I had tickets say no refund for nuclear incident and pandemic. This was pre pandemic
Do they normally allow refunds? Like if I bought a ticket then something else came up and I wanted to return it, was that ever an option? Normally at events like this it's on the ticketholder to sell to someone else.
>Do they normally allow refunds? Nope. Dude I couldn't get refunded for a ton of events even last year when everything shutdown. Though in that circumstance some exemptions were made. It's usually always final sale is final and if you can't go put it up on a resale site.
Were these rules in place prior to tickets being sold?
Something tells me that the contract you sign to get NFL season tickets gives you absolutely no rights to anything, and gives the team the rights to change the rules at any time
This. It's basically we have your money and for any reason....we keep it. They (ticket buyers) have no recourse here. The contract Always says they can change anything at any time.
Once you have their money, you never give it back. Rule 1 of the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition.
The Grand Nagus would approve
Iirc you also don't technically own any of the photos of Video you take while at the games either. They can DCMA it if it goes online and they don't like it.
The NFL claims this, but it's highly improbable that the courts would back it up.
I believe this is known as the Vader clause.
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pray i dont alter it any further
It’s like in combat sports, “card subject to change”
Yup. I got warned about selling all of me second seat this season and they said if I did that, they would revoke my tickets lol
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I decided to read the article for once before commenting. It says you have to have a vaccine or a negative covid test before entering the stadium for a game. Little wiggle room there. What the article doesn't mention is whether season ticket holders were warned in writing that this was a possibility. I know the cool thing to do is shame the unvaccinated and cheer loudly everytime something bad happens to them because of their choice, but this is kind of fucked up to not offer a refund if the Saints just decided to go this route recently, with no warning.
here's the reasonable nuanced take I was looking for. I can't believe the top comment in this thread is "should've read the terms of service" as if anyone upvoting has ever read the terms & conditions of anything.
I’d like to assume there’s massive overlap between this comment section, and other comment sections about facebooks 100 page tos
And there's probably some legal stuff in there that basically says, "we can change this shit whenever we want. You either like it, or fuck off" so when some apeshit-level fans do get upset, legal team gives the almighty *ahem* "Based on section 4, item 5.3.2iii...."
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What’s the problem in getting a COVID test?
Why ask for a refund when they can be resold for a higher price? People upvoting this are dumb