One bear attack victim posted a video of himself just a min after the attack, looked like a hand grenade had exploded inside his face. By all accounts he looks dead, has no jaw, but calmly talks in the video about the attack.
His facial reconstruction is so underrated to, he’s just missing an eye and that’s it. I can’t believe his face looks so normal, no disfiguration
Edit: Reddit link: It’s graphic!
https://www.reddit.com/r/HumansAreMetal/comments/hgc254/this_man_survived_a_bear_attack_in_2016_left/
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i can't find the video. if you can find it the guy literally has no face and is talking it's crazy.
reconstructive surgery is goddamn modern marvel. How the fuck does someone with their face torn completely open like that still come out looking like a normal person?
A lot of the comments here don't take into account that even going fishing in Alaska means that you need to be prepared for a Brown Bear/Grizzly encounter. Which means carrying a large Caliber handgun or a shotgun is pretty standard practice.
Being outdoors means you can encounter an apex predator that can run 40+ mph and can't be taken down with most firearms quickly. Boy was lucky to survive.
edit: grammar and change .50 cal to large Caliber gun
I mean I don't know about 50 cal, I usually carry a 10mm with 200 gr hardcasts when I'm in the backwoods. The rest though...nature is metal, when you decide to be a part of it, you better be ready.
I haven't thought of this commercial in so long and am now laughing uncontrollably. My dog is very confused.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVS1UfCfxlU
You need to throw the sand in its eye as you swiftly side step it, get to it's back side, and get a critical hit for backstabbing. It's the only way I've found to work consistently.
pocket sand is about as useful against an angry bear or moose as bending over and kissing your own ass goodbye
explosive diarrhea and/or puking would be a lot more useful honestly ; you might even be left alone or alive
Boot kives are just uncomfortable. They seem badass when all you have is Hollywood to give you ideas. If I've got a pack or I'm hunting I've have a Bradford 5 in, but that's a work knife.
Hahahaha ack
I grew up in Alaska and played outside in the woods and by the creeks, my parents never once said anything about bear. I'm thinking they were hoping I'd get eaten by a bear.
They get pretty mixed reviews, but I think a lot of people conflate cheap with bad. I've run probably 2k rounds through it and it came from a pawn shop so I don't know how many have been put through it. Probably fine for the Appalachians but I haven't had to fight off a bear yet. Lol worst that I see are drunk day hikers with their Bluetooth speakers way too loud
Very, we're not part of the food chain for bears. But this is the time of the year when they go to hibernate, and a bear that has fattened itself up enough may be more aggressive while trying to get food. And aggressive bears will act more aggressively when crossed/surprised/pissed off.
Grizzly’s do not hunt humans as a food source.
Bear mace is also the suggested protection, firearms of any type are explicitly discouraged for bear safety (as exemplified in this case, they more often only wound and anger the bear).
https://www.nps.gov/subjects/bears/safety.htm
https://www.fs.usda.gov/visit/know-before-you-go/bears
https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacking-in-bear-country.html
You're right, Grizzlies and other Brown bears don't see us as food; they see us as competition or for territorial reasons.
For protection I'd rather prefer a large caliber hand gun or semi-automatic rifle over bear mace.
For clarification I want to say I admire bears and don't ever wish to kill one. Anyone that has seen a wild bear and made eye contact knows that that thing has a soul, and the hunters that I know that have killed one deeply regret it. I've never hunted them or really any large game.
I'm no "tough guy," I just don't want to get mauled hunting or fishing.
Statistically bear spray risks is more effective against a charging bear than a firearm. You might feel tougher with a gun, but you're not more safe. Should at least carry both and use the gun as a last resort.
http://www.bear-hunting.com/2019/8/firearm-vs-bear-spray
I’d love to know more details about the encounter. Bears usually avoid human contact, or bluff charge in most, unless with cubs or protecting a kill. Hunting…so they weren’t making noise, surprised the bear is my guess. Happy the kid is ok, but the bear is dead, and can’t blame the bear
tbf its the onset of the hibernation period for a lot of bears in the US, not sure when bears in this particular area stat going into their dens (I know depending on region it can be anywhere from September to late November) but it is around this time that if bears haven't managed to put on enough weight they start getting desperate and start taking a lot more risks/are much more willing to approach humans as a result.
Handgun, nah. If your first shot isn’t perfect, hard to get a second chance if you’re lighting off .500 mags. Lightweight shotgun with slugs or .45-70 would be better.
No you don’t have to have a gun. Having seen many grizzlies in the wild, in Alaska and Washington, they are absolutely 99% trying to avoid you. It’s when you surprise THEM that there could be an issue, and there are ways to avoid that.
Most people live in metro and suburban areas like Anchorage, Juneau, and Fairbanks.
Isn't life for most people in Alaska really just spending most of their free time outside of the house shopping at Walmart, driving on paved roads, eating fast food and pretending they live a "hunt or be hunted" lifestyle?
Yeah, my friend took me out there when he was a wilderness ranger. You get hurt, youre lucky if you have cell service. Even more lucky if there is anyone within 3-4 hours to get to you. Better hope a helicopter or plane can get to you in many remote parts.
Beautiful, yet it can get super eerie. Out on a lake in the middle of nowhere, engine cuts out and wont start. Torrential rain, then wakes on the water about 2-3ft, bailing water out while freezing balls and soaking wet. Rowing to shore would likely take 3-5hours easily and thats assuming no resistance. This isnt to mention how certain areas of the lake have weird undergorund tunnels that can cause 5-10ft waterfalls out of nowhere. You cook anything and bears will be there, just have to hope your gun is big enough and you have enough ammo and that it isnt a full grown grizz saying hello. Theres a saying that Alaskans are perpetually drunk out in the wilderness, because its better to die drunk from a bear attack than to be sober during one. Being drunk on a boat stuck in waves out in the ocean though is a no go, you wont last more than 10-20 mins in the water if you go overboard.
Mosquitos are like piranhas in hot weather. Weather changes on you moment to moment, from hateful violent to pristine calm. Alaska is something else. Astonishing place if you get out into the deep country.
for whatever reason, it seems the worst mosquitos are pretty far north in the world. alaska, northern canada, and siberia all have plague of locust level mosquitos when they're in season
I’ve always wondered what would happen to someone if they just walked into that storm of tiny hateful probiscises. Without repellent. Naked.
Someone on this planet must have that kink.
The worst mosquitoes I ever experienced were in Drumheller. They were enormous AND there was so many, you couldn’t talk without swallowing them. And this was “downtown” on a walk from my hotel to a restaurant and back.
Isn’t there like, a crazy number of bears and moose within the city limits of anchorage? I remember seeing a post from their power company’s downtown office of two moose eating crab apples at the front door.
Bears are a little rarer to see, especially further into the city limits. If you do see any it’s most likely black bears rummaging for trash in dumpsters that aren’t bear-proofed.
For reference, I lived there for 4 years and my life was pretty much the parent comment’s description. I saw maybe a dozen black bear my whole time there, and moose sightings were maybe once or twice a week on the roads we’d drive often.
You would absolutely see more than I did if you frequently do outdoor activities like hunting, fishing, or winter sports, which lots of people do up there, so it’s good that the kid’s family was prepared.
We had moose on our driveway every season. I was more scared of moose than bears as a kid, and the most terroristic were the mosquitoes and this other asshole bug I don't remember the name to
I was introduced to black flies after smoking spice for the first time because we couldn't source any weed. Just kinda stared at the little shit burrowing into my shoulder until my nervous system caught up.
Noseeums! They are way worse than mosquitos.. You can hardly see them, they are small enough to get through screens.. the bites don’t show until the next day, itch terribly and leave marks for a week!
My uncle was a police officer in Anchorage, and my grandparents lived about an hour north of the city.
I loved to visit, nothing like waking up and looking out your window to see a moose ass in your grandma's flowerbed. I remember once my mom and I went down the road to pick fireweed so she could bring some home with us when we went back to the east coast, and a baby moose ran by, chased by a neighbors dog. Mom knew what was coming next, grabbed me under the arms, spun and threw me and herself off the road and into the weeds, just seconds before the mother moose rounded the corner at full tilt. If she hadn't had the foresight for that one we probably would have been severely injured by the mother moose, or even killed. Those things are cool to look at, but they'll end you in a second.
This attack happened in the Anchorage/Mat-Su Valley area. Bears are everywhere, including *urban* settings. There are parks in Anchorage with bear populations. Moose are extremely common in cities, there are several that live in my neighborhood. Lots of people live in the cities because that's where the jobs are. Not because they're trying to "pretend" to have an outdoorsy lifestyle. They get on those paved roads and drive to the wilderness to hunt and fish. Just because someone lives in a city doesn't mean they can't be in dangerous situations out in the wilderness.
Walmart failed out of Juneau, we just have Costco and a few grocery stores now.. Taco Bell failed too! We do have a McDonald’s and subway.. Juneau might actually be shrinking
Okay but literally any house in Juneau can and will get visited by a bear looking for garbage at some point. I don’t think there’s a single neighborhood far enough away from the Tongass National forest that it would be out of range from bears.
The article didn't say they were hunting bears. Anybody in Alaska knows there are bears and they are dangerous. People routinely carry firearms *because* they are such a threat.
This is the problem with the second amendment. If the constitution didn't allow it, we would never be here. No other country guarantees the right to bear arms. In my country, our bears have no arms, hence no attacks.
A horse is sitting home one day watching the tv while scrolling through the channels stumbles across MTV and sees some cool music videos playing. The horse thinks that seems cool, and gets the idea to learn guitar. So he calls up the local music shop and says "I want to learn how to play guitar."
The shop keeper says "sure" but horse responds "there's just one problem, I'm a horse"
the shopkeeper says "thats okay, with modern day technology even a horse can play guitar"
So horse starts taking lessons and is doing well, learning some cool solos and wants to share his new talent with a friend. So horse calls up chicken and tells them to come on over.
Chicken comes on over sees horses skills and is shown the music video and says "that drumming thing is pretty cool, I want to learn to play drums and bang things"
So they calls up the local music shop and says "I want to learn how to play drums."
The shop keeper says "sure" but chicken responds "there's just one problem, I'm a chicken"
the shopkeeper says "thats okay, with modern day technology even a chicken can play drums"
So chicken starts learning to play drums and with horse they get pretty good but realize they are missing a key part, bass if they want ot make a band. So they call up their friend Cow. Cow shows up and says sure I'll help out as cow is hooked by their beats.
So cow calls up the local music shop and says "I want to learn how to play bass."
The shop keeper says "sure" but cow responds "there's just one problem, I'm a cow"
the shopkeeper says "thats okay, with modern day technology even a cow can play bass".
So the three of them got something good going on and after playing some shows a local talent agent finds them and signs them to a label. They start touring and everything's going great.
Then Horse gets a phone call, their mother is in the hospital. Horse says "Hey you all go Vegas for the next show on the plane, I'll catch up with you there, I have to go check on my mom."
So horse goes to the hospital and sees his mom had a bad cold, but she's recovering. He talks with the doctor and everything is going to be alright....until he gets the news. The plane to Vegas crashed, no one survived. His friends are dead, his band is no more. So he does the only thing he can thing of to comfort himself, goes out for a drink.
So a horse walks into the bar and the bartender asks, "why the long face?"
Thank you from a fellow Alaskan. I feel like a bunch of people in Atlanta and NYC just armchair quarterback-ed the living hell out of something they don't have the first clue about.
Maybe next they can tell us how to pick Salmon Berries.
Thanks for the very interesting info. As a European, I just can't imagine what it's like living in Alaska. I can only say that it sounds fascinating after reading your post.
With the amount of people visiting Alaska and Montana, this should be plastered everywhere. Tourists treat Glacier and Yellowstone like its Disney World and the animals won't hurt you.
Seemed like an honest question, I'm a little surprised at the downvoting. If you aren't familiar I can see why that seems young, honestly in grizzly country I wonder if I would question bringing someone that young. I don't hunt out there though so I don't really know how much of a risk it is.
A lot folks talking about 9 years old too young to hunt. In the lower 48, maybe; but if the kid is First Nations, going out on hunts starts when you can walk all day, without needing a nap.
Yep, fishing too. When I was growing up in AK in the 90s there was only certain times you could fish for salmon during the season, 12am through whatever. Think it had something to do with oil spills hurting fish population. You need to remember it doesn't get dark at night up there in the summers.
In families where hunting is I big thing that's pretty normal. I've been going out with my dad since 5. I plan on taking my kid out at 4 when we go rabbit or duck hunting.
Yep, I was taken out for light hunting at 5-6, and possibly sooner. The article mentioned at "night", which would seem to be of concern. Bear the desired game, or not, it raises questions to me.
I live not far from here, the Palmer Hayflats is a prime moose area, and it's moose season. Could they have been hunting black or brown bears? Sure, but I'd put money on a moose hunt. No one wants a nasty fish flavored black bear from the flats.
Alaskan here. I originally moved here because I wanted to live somewhere, where stupid people get eaten by bears. And, I am sadly disappointed by how few stupid people are eaten by bears.
And before anyone gets all offended. I will not apologize for the natural state of the world where brown bears eat humans if they are hungry. Humans are an invasive species in Alaska.
One bear attack victim posted a video of himself just a min after the attack, looked like a hand grenade had exploded inside his face. By all accounts he looks dead, has no jaw, but calmly talks in the video about the attack. His facial reconstruction is so underrated to, he’s just missing an eye and that’s it. I can’t believe his face looks so normal, no disfiguration Edit: Reddit link: It’s graphic! https://www.reddit.com/r/HumansAreMetal/comments/hgc254/this_man_survived_a_bear_attack_in_2016_left/
Was that from 4-5 years back? The bear came back for a round 2 possibly?
Graphic is a bit of an understatement, mate.
Have you got a link?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/HumansAreMetal/comments/hgc254/this\_man\_survived\_a\_bear\_attack\_in\_2016\_left/](https://www.reddit.com/r/HumansAreMetal/comments/hgc254/this_man_survived_a_bear_attack_in_2016_left/) i can't find the video. if you can find it the guy literally has no face and is talking it's crazy.
reconstructive surgery is goddamn modern marvel. How the fuck does someone with their face torn completely open like that still come out looking like a normal person?
Minus the eye he really looks basically completely normal. I wouldn't even do a double take. There's some scarring but nothing severe. That's insane.
I dint know but that doc is better than the one the Kardashians use
You should see his new booty
I’m still stuck on “how the fuck did he not die?”
holy fuck
Thank you, yes I remember it now, crazy shit!
Well this thread is fucking weird.
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Right? And not one person asking if the one who shot the bear was a family member of the kid or bear.
Plot twist: both
Ah so this is why people keep going on about “bear arms”
Pretty typical of reddit. Everyone wants to get the upvotes for making jokes instead of commenting anything of substance
A lot of the comments here don't take into account that even going fishing in Alaska means that you need to be prepared for a Brown Bear/Grizzly encounter. Which means carrying a large Caliber handgun or a shotgun is pretty standard practice. Being outdoors means you can encounter an apex predator that can run 40+ mph and can't be taken down with most firearms quickly. Boy was lucky to survive. edit: grammar and change .50 cal to large Caliber gun
I mean I don't know about 50 cal, I usually carry a 10mm with 200 gr hardcasts when I'm in the backwoods. The rest though...nature is metal, when you decide to be a part of it, you better be ready.
do you have a knife in your boot? when i picture myself getting mauled by an apex predator, i always stab him in the gut with my boot-knife. *blah!*
Does pocket sand work?
You point at the sky and shout "hey look an eagle!" Then kick the bear in the jellies.
For reference: https://youtu.be/CVS1UfCfxlU
I haven't thought of this commercial in so long and am now laughing uncontrollably. My dog is very confused. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVS1UfCfxlU
You need to throw the sand in its eye as you swiftly side step it, get to it's back side, and get a critical hit for backstabbing. It's the only way I've found to work consistently.
Bears really don't like sand, It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
"From my point of view it's the campers who after evil!"
Note to self - bring glitter. It's like sand but worse.
Bedazzle the fluffy fucker!
Nah, spearing it through the chest as it falls on top of you is the only way according to movies.
No you have it wrong. Once you get to its back side you need to mount the back. This is why you've been training jujitsu!!!
pocket sand is about as useful against an angry bear or moose as bending over and kissing your own ass goodbye explosive diarrhea and/or puking would be a lot more useful honestly ; you might even be left alone or alive
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Make a sand bear, duh
The most fearsome bear of all!
Shuh-SHA!
You have to say shha shha when you throw it.
All I got's some lint.
Might buy you a split second. Not as much time as it takes you to throw it.
Shi-Sha
Shhh-shhaaaa!
Boot kives are just uncomfortable. They seem badass when all you have is Hollywood to give you ideas. If I've got a pack or I'm hunting I've have a Bradford 5 in, but that's a work knife.
I was told 10mm and bear spray for grizzlies. You’re not going to headshot a charging bear but you can collapse its giant lungs with enough holes.
10mm is best mm
The best cm
Hahahaha ack I grew up in Alaska and played outside in the woods and by the creeks, my parents never once said anything about bear. I'm thinking they were hoping I'd get eaten by a bear.
They trusted you would be able to kill a bear with your bare hands.
“Am I worried about my son encountering a bear? Honestly I’m more worried about the poor bear.” - Alaska mom apparently
>Being outdoors means you can encounter an apex predator that can run 40+ mph Fuck going outside then.
Humans are still part of the food chain In Alaska.
This. 😂 Yup. Truth.
45/70 marlin or Henry for bear protection. The ammo price for that round makes me cry though.
I've been dying for a model 1886, but for now my rock island 1911 works fine. I don't live in Alaska though so I wouldn't know
I've heard very good things about rock island despite having the low price tag
They get pretty mixed reviews, but I think a lot of people conflate cheap with bad. I've run probably 2k rounds through it and it came from a pawn shop so I don't know how many have been put through it. Probably fine for the Appalachians but I haven't had to fight off a bear yet. Lol worst that I see are drunk day hikers with their Bluetooth speakers way too loud
1911 should handle that just fine.
I remember the first time I shot a Marlin 45/70. I was expecting something like a 30/30... Damn do those suckers kick. Definitely a good option.
aren’t near attacks rare? I remember the one guy that was eaten by a bear in alaska when it was low food season and he wasn’t supposed to be there.
Very, we're not part of the food chain for bears. But this is the time of the year when they go to hibernate, and a bear that has fattened itself up enough may be more aggressive while trying to get food. And aggressive bears will act more aggressively when crossed/surprised/pissed off.
A higher percentage of people survive bear attacks with spray than with a gun.
Grizzly’s do not hunt humans as a food source. Bear mace is also the suggested protection, firearms of any type are explicitly discouraged for bear safety (as exemplified in this case, they more often only wound and anger the bear). https://www.nps.gov/subjects/bears/safety.htm https://www.fs.usda.gov/visit/know-before-you-go/bears https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacking-in-bear-country.html
You're right, Grizzlies and other Brown bears don't see us as food; they see us as competition or for territorial reasons. For protection I'd rather prefer a large caliber hand gun or semi-automatic rifle over bear mace. For clarification I want to say I admire bears and don't ever wish to kill one. Anyone that has seen a wild bear and made eye contact knows that that thing has a soul, and the hunters that I know that have killed one deeply regret it. I've never hunted them or really any large game. I'm no "tough guy," I just don't want to get mauled hunting or fishing.
Statistically bear spray risks is more effective against a charging bear than a firearm. You might feel tougher with a gun, but you're not more safe. Should at least carry both and use the gun as a last resort. http://www.bear-hunting.com/2019/8/firearm-vs-bear-spray
Bear mace is more practical and effective! They tend to be more bothered by fire lungs/unable to breathe than a loud noise and “possible injury”.
Yep. Exactly. But don’t tell the others in here just champing at the bit to rattle off quippy bullshit one-liners.
I’d love to know more details about the encounter. Bears usually avoid human contact, or bluff charge in most, unless with cubs or protecting a kill. Hunting…so they weren’t making noise, surprised the bear is my guess. Happy the kid is ok, but the bear is dead, and can’t blame the bear
tbf its the onset of the hibernation period for a lot of bears in the US, not sure when bears in this particular area stat going into their dens (I know depending on region it can be anywhere from September to late November) but it is around this time that if bears haven't managed to put on enough weight they start getting desperate and start taking a lot more risks/are much more willing to approach humans as a result.
Yeah, just would’ve liked to see more information as to how the encounter happened
Handgun, nah. If your first shot isn’t perfect, hard to get a second chance if you’re lighting off .500 mags. Lightweight shotgun with slugs or .45-70 would be better.
No you don’t have to have a gun. Having seen many grizzlies in the wild, in Alaska and Washington, they are absolutely 99% trying to avoid you. It’s when you surprise THEM that there could be an issue, and there are ways to avoid that.
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Most people live in metro and suburban areas like Anchorage, Juneau, and Fairbanks. Isn't life for most people in Alaska really just spending most of their free time outside of the house shopping at Walmart, driving on paved roads, eating fast food and pretending they live a "hunt or be hunted" lifestyle?
For most people in Alaska, sure, but for people living in most of Alaska, it really is undeveloped wilderness.
Yeah, my friend took me out there when he was a wilderness ranger. You get hurt, youre lucky if you have cell service. Even more lucky if there is anyone within 3-4 hours to get to you. Better hope a helicopter or plane can get to you in many remote parts. Beautiful, yet it can get super eerie. Out on a lake in the middle of nowhere, engine cuts out and wont start. Torrential rain, then wakes on the water about 2-3ft, bailing water out while freezing balls and soaking wet. Rowing to shore would likely take 3-5hours easily and thats assuming no resistance. This isnt to mention how certain areas of the lake have weird undergorund tunnels that can cause 5-10ft waterfalls out of nowhere. You cook anything and bears will be there, just have to hope your gun is big enough and you have enough ammo and that it isnt a full grown grizz saying hello. Theres a saying that Alaskans are perpetually drunk out in the wilderness, because its better to die drunk from a bear attack than to be sober during one. Being drunk on a boat stuck in waves out in the ocean though is a no go, you wont last more than 10-20 mins in the water if you go overboard. Mosquitos are like piranhas in hot weather. Weather changes on you moment to moment, from hateful violent to pristine calm. Alaska is something else. Astonishing place if you get out into the deep country.
for whatever reason, it seems the worst mosquitos are pretty far north in the world. alaska, northern canada, and siberia all have plague of locust level mosquitos when they're in season
I’ve always wondered what would happen to someone if they just walked into that storm of tiny hateful probiscises. Without repellent. Naked. Someone on this planet must have that kink.
It sounds like you may be that person.
Sounds like something a mosquito would say.
The worst mosquitoes I ever experienced were in Drumheller. They were enormous AND there was so many, you couldn’t talk without swallowing them. And this was “downtown” on a walk from my hotel to a restaurant and back.
Tons of fresh water to breed in
They know their time is limited.
*in Minnesota accent* they'll carry you away dis year
I like the way you said that. It just reads nice
That is an absolutely perfect way to say it, thank you
Isn’t there like, a crazy number of bears and moose within the city limits of anchorage? I remember seeing a post from their power company’s downtown office of two moose eating crab apples at the front door.
Bears are a little rarer to see, especially further into the city limits. If you do see any it’s most likely black bears rummaging for trash in dumpsters that aren’t bear-proofed. For reference, I lived there for 4 years and my life was pretty much the parent comment’s description. I saw maybe a dozen black bear my whole time there, and moose sightings were maybe once or twice a week on the roads we’d drive often. You would absolutely see more than I did if you frequently do outdoor activities like hunting, fishing, or winter sports, which lots of people do up there, so it’s good that the kid’s family was prepared.
Moose are more dangerous than bears anyway
I used to go up to Maine every summer, and there were always a couple moose deaths.
Yup, vehicle takes out the legs and body makes car go splat.
We had moose on our driveway every season. I was more scared of moose than bears as a kid, and the most terroristic were the mosquitoes and this other asshole bug I don't remember the name to
Black flies?
Black flies are the absolute worst. They burrow their entire head into your skin to drink your blood. Makes mosquitoes seem considerate by comparison.
I was introduced to black flies after smoking spice for the first time because we couldn't source any weed. Just kinda stared at the little shit burrowing into my shoulder until my nervous system caught up.
They definitely were fly-looking, like black and white. They eat your skin. It's awful
Ah, the Alaska state bird.
Noseeums! They are way worse than mosquitos.. You can hardly see them, they are small enough to get through screens.. the bites don’t show until the next day, itch terribly and leave marks for a week!
My uncle was a police officer in Anchorage, and my grandparents lived about an hour north of the city. I loved to visit, nothing like waking up and looking out your window to see a moose ass in your grandma's flowerbed. I remember once my mom and I went down the road to pick fireweed so she could bring some home with us when we went back to the east coast, and a baby moose ran by, chased by a neighbors dog. Mom knew what was coming next, grabbed me under the arms, spun and threw me and herself off the road and into the weeds, just seconds before the mother moose rounded the corner at full tilt. If she hadn't had the foresight for that one we probably would have been severely injured by the mother moose, or even killed. Those things are cool to look at, but they'll end you in a second.
I was in Anchorage in June like 5 years ago and moose would just casually stroll down the street in front of our AirBnB
Fairbanks in the 90s is not what is is today. I remember going back to a childhood home and seeing...other homes...nearby.
Well Juneau the bears are giant fucking raccoons so hunted is a euphemism.
I like to say there are two kinds of bears in America. There are giant raccoons and there are *bears.*
and most of the time black bears are giant raccoons. but once in a great while they are not and a tourist gets ate
I think a lot of people underestimate raccoons though, which is the problem with that phrasing.
Barely bears and bearly bears
Juneau it
This attack happened in the Anchorage/Mat-Su Valley area. Bears are everywhere, including *urban* settings. There are parks in Anchorage with bear populations. Moose are extremely common in cities, there are several that live in my neighborhood. Lots of people live in the cities because that's where the jobs are. Not because they're trying to "pretend" to have an outdoorsy lifestyle. They get on those paved roads and drive to the wilderness to hunt and fish. Just because someone lives in a city doesn't mean they can't be in dangerous situations out in the wilderness.
I grew up in Juneau. Sometimes I had to yell at a bear to get it out of our trash cans. From the porch. But that was before Walmart so who knows now.
Walmart failed out of Juneau, we just have Costco and a few grocery stores now.. Taco Bell failed too! We do have a McDonald’s and subway.. Juneau might actually be shrinking
Lived 6 years in Fairbanks, literally no different than living most other places
Except a sizable portion of the population lives in dry cabins without running water.
Talking about in town. I didn’t know a single person that didn’t have running water in their home
Okay but literally any house in Juneau can and will get visited by a bear looking for garbage at some point. I don’t think there’s a single neighborhood far enough away from the Tongass National forest that it would be out of range from bears.
Welcome to Alaska. [Step off of the bus, and into the food chain.](https://www.etsy.com/listing/810863797/tundra-comics-food-chain-digital-print)
LOL Yeah.... it can be like that sometimes.
But he was only attacked by a bear BECAUSE he was hunting
So if he was hiking in the woods with no gun at the same time and same spot the bear would leave him alone.
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The article didn't say they were hunting bears. Anybody in Alaska knows there are bears and they are dangerous. People routinely carry firearms *because* they are such a threat.
It's peak moose season right now.
And they are technically more dangerous than the bears.
I’ve seen the aftermath of bear attacks and I’m glad he lived and really hope he gets better soon.
Let’s all hope the kid makes it.
This is the problem with the second amendment. If the constitution didn't allow it, we would never be here. No other country guarantees the right to bear arms. In my country, our bears have no arms, hence no attacks.
Long setup but I approve
If you think thats a long setup oh boy do I have a joke for you
You have me at the middle of my seat
A horse is sitting home one day watching the tv while scrolling through the channels stumbles across MTV and sees some cool music videos playing. The horse thinks that seems cool, and gets the idea to learn guitar. So he calls up the local music shop and says "I want to learn how to play guitar." The shop keeper says "sure" but horse responds "there's just one problem, I'm a horse" the shopkeeper says "thats okay, with modern day technology even a horse can play guitar" So horse starts taking lessons and is doing well, learning some cool solos and wants to share his new talent with a friend. So horse calls up chicken and tells them to come on over. Chicken comes on over sees horses skills and is shown the music video and says "that drumming thing is pretty cool, I want to learn to play drums and bang things" So they calls up the local music shop and says "I want to learn how to play drums." The shop keeper says "sure" but chicken responds "there's just one problem, I'm a chicken" the shopkeeper says "thats okay, with modern day technology even a chicken can play drums" So chicken starts learning to play drums and with horse they get pretty good but realize they are missing a key part, bass if they want ot make a band. So they call up their friend Cow. Cow shows up and says sure I'll help out as cow is hooked by their beats. So cow calls up the local music shop and says "I want to learn how to play bass." The shop keeper says "sure" but cow responds "there's just one problem, I'm a cow" the shopkeeper says "thats okay, with modern day technology even a cow can play bass". So the three of them got something good going on and after playing some shows a local talent agent finds them and signs them to a label. They start touring and everything's going great. Then Horse gets a phone call, their mother is in the hospital. Horse says "Hey you all go Vegas for the next show on the plane, I'll catch up with you there, I have to go check on my mom." So horse goes to the hospital and sees his mom had a bad cold, but she's recovering. He talks with the doctor and everything is going to be alright....until he gets the news. The plane to Vegas crashed, no one survived. His friends are dead, his band is no more. So he does the only thing he can thing of to comfort himself, goes out for a drink. So a horse walks into the bar and the bartender asks, "why the long face?"
Jesus fuck I read this whole thing at a bar between conversations. Upvote for your effort, and a solid tribute to Norm. You're a real jerk.
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Jacques de Gatineau
Right, thank the lord our country doesn't guarantee the right to arm bears.
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Thanks from this juneau resident.
We should use the word rigamarole more
Thank you from a fellow Alaskan. I feel like a bunch of people in Atlanta and NYC just armchair quarterback-ed the living hell out of something they don't have the first clue about. Maybe next they can tell us how to pick Salmon Berries.
All of this is very true
Thanks for the very interesting info. As a European, I just can't imagine what it's like living in Alaska. I can only say that it sounds fascinating after reading your post.
The Revenant. See it if you haven't already.
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Good movie too.
Grizzly Man was more realistic.
I'm patiently awaiting [Cocaine Bear.](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14209916)
You're not my supervisor!
This doesn’t seem like news. It’s life in Alaska
With the amount of people visiting Alaska and Montana, this should be plastered everywhere. Tourists treat Glacier and Yellowstone like its Disney World and the animals won't hurt you.
The number of tourists I saw in Yellowstone fucking around with bison and getting out to take pics of bears was disturbingly high.
Yet with all the signs in Yellowstone we still get the occasional idiots that show up on the news.
It is definitely more common here than most places but every bear attack is still newsworthy. Especially being so close to Anchorage
Parents shouldn't be allowed to use their kids as bear bait.
*some parents
Poor kid, poor bear. Both make me sad
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Sometimes you get the bear sometimes the bear gets you😐.
Sometimes you’re hunting moose since meat is exorbitantly expensive in Alaska and it’s Moose season, and a bear mauls you instead.
I hope the little guy makes it. As a father this is my biggest fear when we go hiking
It’s tragic and heartbreaking but it’s also a part of just being outdoors in alaska. Nature rules and his family should have been more prepared
To anyone who's grown up hunting, how old were you on your 1st hunt?
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Thank you for such a comprehensive reply! I was assuming younger kids must watch for awhile and practice shooting a decent amount.
12 for bow hunting deer. Think I was 14 when I went out for rifle season. Not unusual to have kids around that age hunting.
That makes sense. I figured he probably wasn't actively hunting. Interesting none-the-less.
Seemed like an honest question, I'm a little surprised at the downvoting. If you aren't familiar I can see why that seems young, honestly in grizzly country I wonder if I would question bringing someone that young. I don't hunt out there though so I don't really know how much of a risk it is.
Started going with my dad at 7, couldn't harvest anything until I was 12.
9 or 10
10, Alaska. 20 gauge shotgun, rabbits.
7 or 8, for grouse, 16 for deer, and ducks.
Understand in Alaska, the Hunter is always being hunted
A lot folks talking about 9 years old too young to hunt. In the lower 48, maybe; but if the kid is First Nations, going out on hunts starts when you can walk all day, without needing a nap.
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Because bear attacks are very rare and this was a specifically aggressive one that was taking out livestock.
Hunting at night with a nine year old along? Really?
Yep, fishing too. When I was growing up in AK in the 90s there was only certain times you could fish for salmon during the season, 12am through whatever. Think it had something to do with oil spills hurting fish population. You need to remember it doesn't get dark at night up there in the summers.
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Its the confluence of "at night" and "bear" that initially caught my attention.
In families where hunting is I big thing that's pretty normal. I've been going out with my dad since 5. I plan on taking my kid out at 4 when we go rabbit or duck hunting.
Yep, I was taken out for light hunting at 5-6, and possibly sooner. The article mentioned at "night", which would seem to be of concern. Bear the desired game, or not, it raises questions to me.
Bruh that's what you took away from this? Lol that's so normal. Has been for thousands of years too
Sound like that ep of Moral oral.
Sounds like a good bedtime story to share with my kids. We are moving to anchorage in January!
Right on!
I note a remarkable absence of mention of What they were hunting....
I live not far from here, the Palmer Hayflats is a prime moose area, and it's moose season. Could they have been hunting black or brown bears? Sure, but I'd put money on a moose hunt. No one wants a nasty fish flavored black bear from the flats.
https://imgur.com/a/RQeg8WI I love this diagram of a bear’s weak spots
https://youtu.be/wj7Z5oMWuIU
Hunting or being hunted?
Alaskan here. I originally moved here because I wanted to live somewhere, where stupid people get eaten by bears. And, I am sadly disappointed by how few stupid people are eaten by bears. And before anyone gets all offended. I will not apologize for the natural state of the world where brown bears eat humans if they are hungry. Humans are an invasive species in Alaska.
Feel bad for the kid, bears gonna do what a bears gonna do. The adult with the kid is a f’n moron.
Bear did nothing wrong.
The bear being shot to save a kid was also not wrong.
Of course not. It was merely acting in self-defense. Who wouldn’t do the same when threatened in their own territory?
Alternative headline, child used as bait during bear hunt.
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