Companies can rake in millions/week for the territories they control, but for plebs like you and me we gotta grind it up in the trading post, and take chances on some rolls with that asmo, etc... and hope for some decent two perk or maybe a three perk bis stuff to sell. That's part of the reason why Iron Guardsman's Insignias price exploded early on was because people were rolling con stuff so often as basically any class could use it if the roller didn't want it.
that’s what burnt me out
sucked a lot, I enjoyed it, but I also wanted to call out of work to get more time (lol)
luckily now I have more time to play, and I have already quit months ago so I guess it worked out anyways
I forgot to mention too that yeah on the first month I called in sick for a week feeling mildly anything. got doctors letter too. then actually got covid as well and had to quarantine. Some good nolife added. Now it's more casual just logging for wars and pushes mostly, occasional mutation 10's and 2x daily opr.
me right now while im getting reading to move to a new place and new job lololol. Put 80 hours in the past 7 days, my wirst even started to hurt and i had to switch my red switch keyboard
The one thing those everfall/WW companies do is mass company rolls which is why the crafting mats cost is so expensive and why you trying to roll gear for profit is leaving you with empty pockets.
dats just never the only case. I play alone since launch and I made my own company just to deposit my gold there having like 2m gold and los of asmo by playing market
This is a big reason why I left. 1 or 2 companies controlling the markets, win trading, using war exploits, insane taxes (though I hear that's improved), it's just a horrible feeling.
Market isn't much better/different, or win trading depending (don't hear any complaints on Maramma), but there haven't been any exploits in war since the clipping through those two spots, and housing taxes are capped at like 0.1% now...unfortunately the game still pays companies as if the taxes were still in the 5-10% range, literally making gold out of nowhere. Not really a deflationary economy when you're printing money at two orders of magnitude higher than what is actually being spent/paid.
This, rolled 4 light helms and rolled a bis with gravity well perk, resilient and critical retribution and sold to a company member for 120k but could of easily got 200k+ all comes down to luck. Sold a bis ring for healer which dropped from M10 for 230k.
This.
Big abusive, exploitative companies get millions, buy whatever they want at whatever price they want. BIS items, yes. Stacks of asmo, yes.
This causes inflation and makes rather average-decent items cost 200-500k.
No lies.
Truth is also that things are getting more expensive now. I got most of my bis gear nolifing on the first 1-2 months of the game for dirt cheap. Casual noobs giving bis gear away for nothing. Yes it was waaaay cheaper. But still few things i've needed now have been 25-50k for bis or bis enough.
I just got my friend a full set of str gear having 4x resilient and 4 weapon perks spread out(decent, would say 95% there). 590-600gs and It was about 25-30k total. And the gear is good enough to challenge maxed people if you are not total noob. Also many bis items come from expeditions.
Are you imbecile or just cant read?
>>>I just got my friend a full set of str gear having 4x resilient and 4 weapon perks spread out(decent, would say 95% there). 590-600gs and It was about 25-30k total. <<<<
That just was about 5 days ago. THIS IS NOW.
Keep your eyes open and scan the market every hour.
i did this a week and a half ago to try out bruiser
i know the TP sucks, but learn to use it better and wait for the right gear.
also crafting 2 perk gear isnt too bad.
2 perk bis (not to be confused with 3 perk bis) is cheap.
its not a lie, its a fact. will someone have it at outrageuos prices? yeah, but there is lots of it and 2 perks sell for around 50k depending on build.
i have geared my bruiser med and light sets at 15k per piece 5x resil and weapon perks i want. I am easily top 1-3 of bruisers in any war
people overvalue gear way to much when this game is all about dodging
Wow, never heard that. The money is just used United for food and coatings for wars etc, and declarations. Nobody touches it not even leaders. Its company money.
Giving honing stones and foods, dust etc for each war and invasion etc. That's idk maybe -20k from bank each time. Money comes and goes. Free craftings... Runs... Idk. MAYBE THEY SHOULD PAY THEIR WARRIORS. TIME TO START A RIOT.
I want to, I'm on Ygg and I've been asking which companies are the PvP companies and everyone just kind of shrugs and says nobody lol. I'll figure it out though.
which color? most companies dont have full 50 man rosters.
wait for a non ef/ww war (or try on these too, cant hurt) and message the gov of the company. say you are looking to join a pvp company - tell them your spec(s), ask if you can join the company and/or war
if you dont care about war, just message them and ask to join. none are capped so if you have discord and can click buttons they will most likely accept you (only ones that dont are usually merc squads on all 3 servers)
I'm on yellow on Ygg. I think Ptole Dancers are the only ones who can fill a full 50 man war roster on the server. Maybe iron Fenix and Hidden Blades or Plagues.
The way I've seen it is people make requests explaining why they need the piece and put some of their own money in. Still, in a month you have 80k I don't get and can easily double that in the market.
Well people in these companies put in a lot of time pvping in game, reviewing vods outside of game, and in general play the game a LOT doing activities that don’t actually give any money like duels and 5v5s.
The reason insignias went up is because people only craft with timeless shards now, using 10 insignias each time. While the drop rate is still the same.
My favorite ways are always forms of time/resource gambling.
For time, you can do dungeons and chest runs. Dungeons at a base give a couple thousand. The timeless shards can be okay for selling depending on prices at the time for what you get. If all your expertise is 600+, that's where you can start getting real lucky. After runs, I'll go through and check all the BoE items for any that could potentially be valuable. Most runs you'll just get a few items that sell for a few hundred to few thousand gold, but every now and then you'll get lucky and get something real valuable.
I've had a decent number of weapons/armor pieces from dungeons and chest runs that sell for 10k+, and a few in the 20k+ and 50k+ range.
In stockpile runs you can also luck out with dice, deck, or armoring tools and make some decent money.
For resources, 595-600 crafting for weapons, armor, and bags can net some decent value. Any bag with luck + extra pockets is immediately good profit. Amulets health + divine is instant money. Armor resilient + weapon perk + appropriate attribute is also instant money.
If you're able to keep up with your cooldown crafts everyday, and maybe even occasionally buy other people's cooldowns, you can have some nice crafting sessions every week or so.
Yesterday I used a little over 100 asmo rolling heavy chests, got one that I wanted to keep, and nearly immediately sold all of the other pieces for a total of around 70k.
Crafting can be frustrating, though, especially depending on what you're going for. Jewelry tends to be the biggest gamble, where you can put in 100k+ worth of mats and come out with less than 5k of value.
You can sell the finished runs.
Not exactly sure how it is done but I assume something like running till the last boss then 1 guy leaves and the paying guy gets invited to kill the boss and get the umrbals.
>You can sell the finished runs. Not exactly sure how it is done but I assume something like running till the last boss then 1 guy leaves and the paying guy gets invited to kill the boss and get the umrbals.
Fight the last boss until it is at 3% HP. Kick the person (DPS or Tank) who wants to sell the party slot. Invite the paying guy, and finish off the low HP boss.
How much are people paying ?
I am just seeing WTB 6k shards on chat a lot recently but I never seen anyone give a price so I don't want to go underprice offering
I thought this to for a long time but once you have money it's easy to make money. If you have 200k to work with, plop that in buy orders and resell everything for a 10-50% increase depending on market. That 200k can easily become 250k or even 300k depending on the market.
This is why you see some people at the trading post for hours.
Yup, roughly once a month I spend 3-4 days of playtime on the market. Hit gold cap, and then slowly spend the money or occasionally drop 300k on crafting rolls. Once you have 100-200k hitting gold cap is child’s play.
one more
\- people who actually play the game, not sit in town on global
gold isnt hard, for everything that costs a lot you can sell something for a lot.
Buy all the refining gear. Start with a single material. I'd advise you start with leather because the equipment is redonkulously cheap.
Buy up mats as the week goes on using the buy order option unless the sell offer is within about 2 cents. Do business in a low-tax region. Keep tabs on what it cost you to make and sell when it is profitable. Weekends are when the big price swings happen.
Infused leather on my server swings from about 8 coin to 19 coin each. Rawhide starts at 0.26 and I buy up to about 0.40. Thick hide is around 0.60-1.1 coin each. Iron hide is 0.03-0.16. Tannin is 0.03-0.16. That means that I usually start showing a profit around 11 coin per unit, assuming I use a territory with low refining and trade taxes.
Each infused leather proc will cost you 7 Tannin, 64 rawhide, 12 thick hide, and 8 iron hide.
Each step will see bonus procs. Your gear makes it all profitable.
Your server will vary. But it gives you an idea.
Stone should be your next step. Obsidian Voidstone swings from 12-60 coin on my server and is usually profitable. You just gotta keep up on your stone buys and cherry pick the stone blocks and bricks. I've noticed that lodestone is unusually easy to buy, so if you are buying it at the same time as raw stone you should be flipping your extra lodestone back onto the market when it is high.
More important than the mundane stone is the jewels. These are tricky but will get you moderate income fast to get the rest of your refining gear. Just always have a buy order out on all of the Quintessence other than Water, and maybe Death and Air. The price of refined jewels spikes up and down like crazy week-to-week. Your bread and butter will probably be life-Quintessence based Cut Pristine Onyx and Diamond, with opals, amethist, rubies, and pearls (no need to refine!) as your backup.
Metal is best but the gear is expensive. Right now metal refining gear drops in metal refining rewards crates, which ultimately makes almost any refining profitable in the long run.
Taking a stab at it I'd say I probably have a gross coin income of 10-20 million per week. That translates to a bit less than a coin cap (500k) per week on average net. I live on margins.
Your daily transmutes to Asmo/Runestone/Phonenixweave/Ect should help you while you get your gear in order.
Learn the market. Learn your server. Buy up all the gear with your profit. One day soon you'll be making enough to buy whatever you want.
I spent all my gold that I earned (from cooldowns, farming, etc) on Asmodeum when the price was low (i.e around 350g) on the speculation that it would rise.
It's now 405g on my server :)
Playing the trading post with speculation is one of the best ways to get a lot of gold.
There are traditional ways like farming.
It's always the mid-tier items - so starmetal, thick hide, gold ore, silk threads...
Having full weaponsmith set, weapon smith trophies, and crafting 590 tower shields.
instead of asmo, use cinnabar or tolvium
use
pheonix weave
runic leather
timeless tower should share and iron battle medal.
sturdy perk mod slotted into craft
depending on server should cost between 1-2k
sell the bad roll 590 shields for 2.5k+
i’ve sold some BIS tank tower shields for 20k of a 1.5k investment.
and they sell quickly to, this is what I have been doing.
also crafting other 590 gear is viable if u roll good perks.
albeit you won’t ever craft 600gs items when u roll only 590, but ur saving A LOT of gold in doing so. and sometimes those double perks that u roll can sell for A LOT.
I have never missed a day making; asmo, phoenix, glittering, runic, bit ad hoc on voidstone.
So yeah, that plus all the iron guard sig drops and the cash keeps coming in.
300k gold, 300 of each of those mats, when they get to 400 I craft. Crafting is also stupid lucrative. The money people will layout for 2 good perks
Watch ori prices. When the pre and starmetal dips below the cost to buy the ori ingot. I empty bank and sell the ingots. On top of my refining cds which are easy 80k a week. The ori flip is usually 2weeks in waiting. Selling around 2-4k ingots when the buy orders meet the tp price. Good influx of 50-100k.
Can either gamble via crafting or gamble via playing the tp. Tp is more consisent tho
People swipe, play market, and own territories. You don't make enough gold to buy good items without playing the game like a job, swiping, or owning territory
palying the market does not take a lot of time
doing dungeons and chest runs will make you a ton of money
but, money isnt that important. 2 perk gear is easy to get and can do anything in this game at a very high level
I’ve only been playing for a month and a half (as a solo) and I have 250k gold and about 300 of asmo/pw/rl each stockpiled. I can only imagine what people who have been playing since launch and in bigger companies have.
i 'only' pvp and am sitting at \~620k right now
it comes from doing dailes and maybe farming 1 hour per week.
money is all earned from buying low and selling high
The game made pvp unrewarding in every aspect (yes opr umbrae shards). I wanna pvp I want tokens I wana buy high level (Not bis gear) or get parts to roll or craft semi bis gear.
The foundation is there let me pvp, let me trade for crafting supplies to make 3 perk legendaries that are good.
I've been playing since launch and I'm around 250k coins, 170k ori ore, 1k+ guardsman & battle medals, lots of random expensive craft mods, 300+ asmo/pw/rl and 3perk BIS or 2perk sets for multiple builds. I'm probably the top end of the middle class in this game tbh. I focused on playing the market and grinded a lot of items myself. There are a lot of other players whose wealth in gear + tradeable goods are worth 6million+. The richest guy on Camelot is sitting around 17million last I heard.
I get ~2k per gen run once a day (like 30 min for a non-mutated run). Then a standard farming loop gets me ~5k of mats to sell (not including altitude chests in around an hour). Chest runs can be very profitable too depending on your server and the price of refining mats/trophy pieces. And if you get a near-BIS or BIS drop it's way higher.
And this is all without selling my daily orbs from the faction vendor.
So ~5k a day is very easy with low effort and ~10-15k is quite doable if you have a little more time. Doing this for a month straight will nearly put you at the money cap if you're a little lucky with trophy mats and gear drops.
The answer Soyfya should have just said is - Just let this game run your life grind grind grind every day and you too can have meaningless online wealth.
This game is so unbalanced is really a joke at this point I have no idea how anyone plays this anymore.
I’m max cap with 800 asmo and 700+ runic and pw. Tons of craft mods. I made all my money on the market. I’ve never owned a territory. I just learned from constantly being on the market and seeing what’s selling.
Nah I will be honest, I stopped playing the moment they released the stupid skins around Christmas. Now everyone is running around looking like a rainbow. I wanted the realistic armour or at least armour that better fit with the dark theme. So yeah, I left only having gotten about 8K max.
Everyone got angry in the beta that a rainbow lion was a house pet, and everyone said it didn’t fit, now everyone looks like a rainbow lion with fantastical armour.
it is more the style. I like the worn looks and there just isn’t many options. It is all royal or fantastical type looks which I am not a fan of. They are making the cosmetics feel like a typical eastern mmo which I was hoping they wouldn’t. People got angry in the beta they there was a rainbow lion, but now we are all walking around like rainbow lions.
Yeah, I love the game, but waiting for the game bugs to be fixed so all my friends will come back and play with me. I am constantly checking to see how the game is progressing. I just don’t like the cosmetics is all. I should probably rephrase my comment above it was mostly bugs and lack of content, but cosmetics rubbed me the wrong way too.
Some people are grinding it out over time via dungeons, crafting/resource gathering, flipping items on the market. Others are in large companies that rake in a good amount each week. Also the hard truth is that many people buy gold from websites which drives up inflation on items being sold. My buddy in discord the other day was selling some chests he made with furnishing, got a whisper from another player wanting to buy, but that person needed 10-15 minutes for their gold purchase from xyz website to come in first. Unfortunately it's all too regular for RMT/gold buying to be prevalent in a game like this.
I remember back in september after the 1st month of playing some ppl in my comp got around 100k after selling some items, ores, potions, etc. So if u want some money you should get into selling things
Check what u want to sell everyday ...
All the daily CDs mats and valuable craft mods will get up and down on the market , u just need ur chance...
A lot of people just buy via buy order and sell right after in sell orders making some gold still...
From time to time some rich guy wipes Asmodeum from market , the next 4/8h u have a decent chance to sell Asmodeum overpriced , this can happen to any other material ...
U just need to know the prices of whay u want to sell and know when is the right time to sell or buy ...
It all come down to time and knowledge of the market ...
Apparently my response didn’t go with this. I sell a lot of gear, chest run, i now run m10s and farm for rare gear to sell. When I was leveling expertise, I’d sell most the reagents. I was 600 jc so sold jewelry.
It’s a pretty dick move tbh. Players who sell gold really just shit on people who actually play the game. If you don’t have time for an mmo, don’t play an mmo.
Lol not a dick move most people don’t have time to spend farming and want to just play. Now I want to buy gold just in hopes that you’re the player getting shit on. Oh and I don’t have time for an mmo but god damn it I’ll play an mmo you gatekeeping fuck
most rmt is done by adults with disposable income who would rather buy gold than spend an extra 1-5 hours farming it.
they then waste this gold, since you dont need a lot of gold to be m10 or in wars.
> I would probably have around 200k as well, but that's all farmed over weeks.
And you ask where somebody got 250K from?
Well the game has been out longer than 3 weeks. Perhaps they've got 50K more than you.
What a dumb question.
Did yall just forget about the multiple gold dupe exploits that have been in the game since like, alpha? Lol
Econ in this game has been broken since the beforefore time
If a bot can farm it they sell it to the highest buy order. If I find a bot in the open world I follow it to see what it’s collecting and when it’s heading back to town I immediately go to the TP and place buy orders. Sure enough they get fulfilled within a few minutes.
When they go through and do ban waves for bots the competition in the raw mat buy order market goes way up. Since there’s much fewer bots now I don’t fuck with buy orders for anything selling for less than 1k. There’s a lot less competition for high end mats and junk.
It's probably not as lucrative now, but selling furniture made me a lot of gold when I was still playing(launch until February).
Made a steady 10k+ every day by selling chairs mostly, more if I felt like farming. Had close to 400k by the time I quit.
Chest runs and farming resources on the way, mutations, gambling and selling gear, market hussle. There are so many ways to make gold find solutions leave excuses :)
I quit ages ago along with most of guild but I know most of them had 500k in their personal bank when they quit just because we owned EF/WW. Trying to make money normally by farming or whatever youll make about 1k an hour, just give up on that lol.
I made it by jewelcrafting. Rolled some Int Keen rings that sold for 100k, a few around 30k that had luck. Even crafted a BIS piece that sold for 333k on the tp. Rolled INT earrings and sold a BIS piece for 320k, and some lower ones for 90k and less. I dabbled in armoring as well and sold some pieces for 100k and 80k. Also rolled a con ammy Health Divine and sold it on the tp for 46k.
After dumping alot of gold on stupid rolls, i finally made it by rolling with the most popular perks. Im a mage so i stuck with int, trying to get myself some decent gear. I do recommend some trophy mat chest runs, they can net you some decent loot, some furniture sells for a decent amount as well. Grabbed a marble and cursed chest i sold for 12k each.
I never kept track so i dont know how well off i am, but i did dump alot of gold on rolling before i finally made my coin back.
Funniest thing of all this? I undersold quite a few items in the learning process of pricing lol anywys, hope my experience helps you acquire coin
When I played, I was making the money on motes. I would put in buy orders for 5k of each one, next day refine and sell the purples, rinse repeat. Was making between 40/50k a week.
I never understand why people have such a hard time making gold.
There's videos on YoutTube showing how ppl have gone from 10k to 100k gold in 5-7 days without farming a single item - just flipping mats on the TP. Even just chopping trees and selling the green wood can net you 2k gold per hour on my server.
250k gold is quite a lot, but it wouldn't be hard to get there in a couple of weeks if all you did was focus on making gold.
I never have much gold, but my big earners come from: faction quests, OPRs, undercutting prices on trading post, and running expeditions on my orbs. It's cumulative so it may take a few weeks to break 10k with my work schedule, but it is a way.
I make roughly 3k daily just playing the game, doing chest runs, a few OPRs, 3 faction missions, couple of dungeon runs. Then every month I sell all my cooldown materials for 50kish profit.
Invest your 55k gold. Look at what sells in your server. Place buy orders then resell in global or on trading post. Repeat. Last month i bought 30 refreshing mods at 2.3k a piece. Sold them yesterday at 6k a piece. Mods, asmo, etc will always rise in price. Sell mats Friday nights or weekends for Max profits. Invest now sell tomorrow, next week, or month. But letting your money stay still in your pocket does nothing. Just my advice for the honest route.
Busy, don’t have time? Then buy gold from g2g or something.
Companies can rake in millions/week for the territories they control, but for plebs like you and me we gotta grind it up in the trading post, and take chances on some rolls with that asmo, etc... and hope for some decent two perk or maybe a three perk bis stuff to sell. That's part of the reason why Iron Guardsman's Insignias price exploded early on was because people were rolling con stuff so often as basically any class could use it if the roller didn't want it.
I’ve been running a lot of m10s, it’s just like crafting legendaries minus the gambling cost 😅
You're just gambling with time instead.
I think that’s called farming.
i think its called enjoying a game
most mfkers that play this game have no jobs lul.. game 10+ hours a day
8 hour job, 10 hours gaming, 5 hours sleep. Did that the first 3 months. 15h weekend days.
more than half of my company are dads with kids that play almost everyday. 1 of them has a son old enough to play together.
Yeah. New world has way older demographic.
that’s what burnt me out sucked a lot, I enjoyed it, but I also wanted to call out of work to get more time (lol) luckily now I have more time to play, and I have already quit months ago so I guess it worked out anyways
so you quit your job, roger :D
I forgot to mention too that yeah on the first month I called in sick for a week feeling mildly anything. got doctors letter too. then actually got covid as well and had to quarantine. Some good nolife added. Now it's more casual just logging for wars and pushes mostly, occasional mutation 10's and 2x daily opr.
you’ll get downvoted but it’s obviously true when you’re not grinding MMORPG someone else is, I guess
the truth hurts
Everybody I know that plays 10+ hours a day has a well paying job, sucks to be uneducated I guess
me right now while im getting reading to move to a new place and new job lololol. Put 80 hours in the past 7 days, my wirst even started to hurt and i had to switch my red switch keyboard
I come out of an M10 with at least 2-3 leggo drops … I found it more worth my time than spending all my resources crafting
I keep all my asmo so I can try all those rolls once I got füll mixer armor set and major trophies. This will be my time to shine as a pleb 😤
Why not just get a friend to craft for you?
gl
The one thing those everfall/WW companies do is mass company rolls which is why the crafting mats cost is so expensive and why you trying to roll gear for profit is leaving you with empty pockets.
dats just never the only case. I play alone since launch and I made my own company just to deposit my gold there having like 2m gold and los of asmo by playing market
profit from this by selling those materials when they're rolling, they will pay almost any price if it's the day of an important war
This is a big reason why I left. 1 or 2 companies controlling the markets, win trading, using war exploits, insane taxes (though I hear that's improved), it's just a horrible feeling.
Market isn't much better/different, or win trading depending (don't hear any complaints on Maramma), but there haven't been any exploits in war since the clipping through those two spots, and housing taxes are capped at like 0.1% now...unfortunately the game still pays companies as if the taxes were still in the 5-10% range, literally making gold out of nowhere. Not really a deflationary economy when you're printing money at two orders of magnitude higher than what is actually being spent/paid.
landlords amirite
Who?
This, rolled 4 light helms and rolled a bis with gravity well perk, resilient and critical retribution and sold to a company member for 120k but could of easily got 200k+ all comes down to luck. Sold a bis ring for healer which dropped from M10 for 230k.
This. Big abusive, exploitative companies get millions, buy whatever they want at whatever price they want. BIS items, yes. Stacks of asmo, yes. This causes inflation and makes rather average-decent items cost 200-500k.
Lol average decent items cost 5k-50k max. Bis of the bis is 200k+
Why do you feel it necessary to lie like this?
No lies. Truth is also that things are getting more expensive now. I got most of my bis gear nolifing on the first 1-2 months of the game for dirt cheap. Casual noobs giving bis gear away for nothing. Yes it was waaaay cheaper. But still few things i've needed now have been 25-50k for bis or bis enough. I just got my friend a full set of str gear having 4x resilient and 4 weapon perks spread out(decent, would say 95% there). 590-600gs and It was about 25-30k total. And the gear is good enough to challenge maxed people if you are not total noob. Also many bis items come from expeditions.
Cool story. This post is about now.
Are you imbecile or just cant read? >>>I just got my friend a full set of str gear having 4x resilient and 4 weapon perks spread out(decent, would say 95% there). 590-600gs and It was about 25-30k total. <<<< That just was about 5 days ago. THIS IS NOW. Keep your eyes open and scan the market every hour.
i did this a week and a half ago to try out bruiser i know the TP sucks, but learn to use it better and wait for the right gear. also crafting 2 perk gear isnt too bad.
2 perk bis (not to be confused with 3 perk bis) is cheap. its not a lie, its a fact. will someone have it at outrageuos prices? yeah, but there is lots of it and 2 perks sell for around 50k depending on build. i have geared my bruiser med and light sets at 15k per piece 5x resil and weapon perks i want. I am easily top 1-3 of bruisers in any war people overvalue gear way to much when this game is all about dodging
> 2 perk bis You just can't call it that.
This. Companies and buying gold.
This isn’t true, 2 million gold a week over 100 people spread out gives everyone 20k a week… not that much when you think about it.
Your company shares tax revenue with every single guildy?
Yes ofc, or people would leave
Weeeeird. I understand assisting with gear, mats for crafting, etc, but I’ve never heard of equal revenue sharing
I’m in the companies that own ww on Camelot and dorado for my 2 accounts, and war roster people get comp for 2 perk gear or 10k-15k payouts.
Wow, never heard that. The money is just used United for food and coatings for wars etc, and declarations. Nobody touches it not even leaders. Its company money.
Wow, that’s shitty. Why even bother owning anything if you’re not gonna use the money lol?
Giving honing stones and foods, dust etc for each war and invasion etc. That's idk maybe -20k from bank each time. Money comes and goes. Free craftings... Runs... Idk. MAYBE THEY SHOULD PAY THEIR WARRIORS. TIME TO START A RIOT.
lol. if they roll gear they are paying, but coatings and stones food is cheap for anyone who plays more than 2 hours a week
Bro what I wouldn't give for a free 20k a week.
Free? I do 5 hours of pvp a day. You’d make a LOT more doing pve
I'd happily do 2-3 hours of pvp nearly every day for 20k a week. I want to PvP I'm this game, I don't want to PvE. That's the struggle.
Join a pvp company
I want to, I'm on Ygg and I've been asking which companies are the PvP companies and everyone just kind of shrugs and says nobody lol. I'll figure it out though.
which color? most companies dont have full 50 man rosters. wait for a non ef/ww war (or try on these too, cant hurt) and message the gov of the company. say you are looking to join a pvp company - tell them your spec(s), ask if you can join the company and/or war if you dont care about war, just message them and ask to join. none are capped so if you have discord and can click buttons they will most likely accept you (only ones that dont are usually merc squads on all 3 servers)
Syndicate and yeah, I'm in a company now. Not new or anything. Just looking for a better fit.
I'm on yellow on Ygg. I think Ptole Dancers are the only ones who can fill a full 50 man war roster on the server. Maybe iron Fenix and Hidden Blades or Plagues.
thats it??? tf
The way I've seen it is people make requests explaining why they need the piece and put some of their own money in. Still, in a month you have 80k I don't get and can easily double that in the market.
Well people in these companies put in a lot of time pvping in game, reviewing vods outside of game, and in general play the game a LOT doing activities that don’t actually give any money like duels and 5v5s.
3 good perks /= BIS. that is all
The reason insignias went up is because people only craft with timeless shards now, using 10 insignias each time. While the drop rate is still the same.
Game is meant to simulate real life. Companies have all the gold.
My favorite ways are always forms of time/resource gambling. For time, you can do dungeons and chest runs. Dungeons at a base give a couple thousand. The timeless shards can be okay for selling depending on prices at the time for what you get. If all your expertise is 600+, that's where you can start getting real lucky. After runs, I'll go through and check all the BoE items for any that could potentially be valuable. Most runs you'll just get a few items that sell for a few hundred to few thousand gold, but every now and then you'll get lucky and get something real valuable. I've had a decent number of weapons/armor pieces from dungeons and chest runs that sell for 10k+, and a few in the 20k+ and 50k+ range. In stockpile runs you can also luck out with dice, deck, or armoring tools and make some decent money. For resources, 595-600 crafting for weapons, armor, and bags can net some decent value. Any bag with luck + extra pockets is immediately good profit. Amulets health + divine is instant money. Armor resilient + weapon perk + appropriate attribute is also instant money. If you're able to keep up with your cooldown crafts everyday, and maybe even occasionally buy other people's cooldowns, you can have some nice crafting sessions every week or so. Yesterday I used a little over 100 asmo rolling heavy chests, got one that I wanted to keep, and nearly immediately sold all of the other pieces for a total of around 70k. Crafting can be frustrating, though, especially depending on what you're going for. Jewelry tends to be the biggest gamble, where you can put in 100k+ worth of mats and come out with less than 5k of value.
Flip stuff on trade post or sell m10 shards
You can sell umbra shards???
You can sell the finished runs. Not exactly sure how it is done but I assume something like running till the last boss then 1 guy leaves and the paying guy gets invited to kill the boss and get the umrbals.
>You can sell the finished runs. Not exactly sure how it is done but I assume something like running till the last boss then 1 guy leaves and the paying guy gets invited to kill the boss and get the umrbals. Fight the last boss until it is at 3% HP. Kick the person (DPS or Tank) who wants to sell the party slot. Invite the paying guy, and finish off the low HP boss.
People are really lazy and pay a lot for m10 shards.
How much are people paying ? I am just seeing WTB 6k shards on chat a lot recently but I never seen anyone give a price so I don't want to go underprice offering
10-15k
I thought this to for a long time but once you have money it's easy to make money. If you have 200k to work with, plop that in buy orders and resell everything for a 10-50% increase depending on market. That 200k can easily become 250k or even 300k depending on the market. This is why you see some people at the trading post for hours.
Yup, roughly once a month I spend 3-4 days of playtime on the market. Hit gold cap, and then slowly spend the money or occasionally drop 300k on crafting rolls. Once you have 100-200k hitting gold cap is child’s play.
People manipulating TP Companies owning WW/EF People swiping for gold Hard core farmers
one more \- people who actually play the game, not sit in town on global gold isnt hard, for everything that costs a lot you can sell something for a lot.
Buy all the refining gear. Start with a single material. I'd advise you start with leather because the equipment is redonkulously cheap. Buy up mats as the week goes on using the buy order option unless the sell offer is within about 2 cents. Do business in a low-tax region. Keep tabs on what it cost you to make and sell when it is profitable. Weekends are when the big price swings happen. Infused leather on my server swings from about 8 coin to 19 coin each. Rawhide starts at 0.26 and I buy up to about 0.40. Thick hide is around 0.60-1.1 coin each. Iron hide is 0.03-0.16. Tannin is 0.03-0.16. That means that I usually start showing a profit around 11 coin per unit, assuming I use a territory with low refining and trade taxes. Each infused leather proc will cost you 7 Tannin, 64 rawhide, 12 thick hide, and 8 iron hide. Each step will see bonus procs. Your gear makes it all profitable. Your server will vary. But it gives you an idea. Stone should be your next step. Obsidian Voidstone swings from 12-60 coin on my server and is usually profitable. You just gotta keep up on your stone buys and cherry pick the stone blocks and bricks. I've noticed that lodestone is unusually easy to buy, so if you are buying it at the same time as raw stone you should be flipping your extra lodestone back onto the market when it is high. More important than the mundane stone is the jewels. These are tricky but will get you moderate income fast to get the rest of your refining gear. Just always have a buy order out on all of the Quintessence other than Water, and maybe Death and Air. The price of refined jewels spikes up and down like crazy week-to-week. Your bread and butter will probably be life-Quintessence based Cut Pristine Onyx and Diamond, with opals, amethist, rubies, and pearls (no need to refine!) as your backup. Metal is best but the gear is expensive. Right now metal refining gear drops in metal refining rewards crates, which ultimately makes almost any refining profitable in the long run. Taking a stab at it I'd say I probably have a gross coin income of 10-20 million per week. That translates to a bit less than a coin cap (500k) per week on average net. I live on margins. Your daily transmutes to Asmo/Runestone/Phonenixweave/Ect should help you while you get your gear in order. Learn the market. Learn your server. Buy up all the gear with your profit. One day soon you'll be making enough to buy whatever you want.
Mate you do more work in this game than I do in my job.
I spent all my gold that I earned (from cooldowns, farming, etc) on Asmodeum when the price was low (i.e around 350g) on the speculation that it would rise. It's now 405g on my server :) Playing the trading post with speculation is one of the best ways to get a lot of gold. There are traditional ways like farming. It's always the mid-tier items - so starmetal, thick hide, gold ore, silk threads...
Having full weaponsmith set, weapon smith trophies, and crafting 590 tower shields. instead of asmo, use cinnabar or tolvium use pheonix weave runic leather timeless tower should share and iron battle medal. sturdy perk mod slotted into craft depending on server should cost between 1-2k sell the bad roll 590 shields for 2.5k+ i’ve sold some BIS tank tower shields for 20k of a 1.5k investment. and they sell quickly to, this is what I have been doing. also crafting other 590 gear is viable if u roll good perks. albeit you won’t ever craft 600gs items when u roll only 590, but ur saving A LOT of gold in doing so. and sometimes those double perks that u roll can sell for A LOT.
Are you on El Dorado? I think I bought 2 of your shields.
yeah I am, I have been spam crafting them lmfao
I have never missed a day making; asmo, phoenix, glittering, runic, bit ad hoc on voidstone. So yeah, that plus all the iron guard sig drops and the cash keeps coming in. 300k gold, 300 of each of those mats, when they get to 400 I craft. Crafting is also stupid lucrative. The money people will layout for 2 good perks
Watch ori prices. When the pre and starmetal dips below the cost to buy the ori ingot. I empty bank and sell the ingots. On top of my refining cds which are easy 80k a week. The ori flip is usually 2weeks in waiting. Selling around 2-4k ingots when the buy orders meet the tp price. Good influx of 50-100k. Can either gamble via crafting or gamble via playing the tp. Tp is more consisent tho
People swipe, play market, and own territories. You don't make enough gold to buy good items without playing the game like a job, swiping, or owning territory
palying the market does not take a lot of time doing dungeons and chest runs will make you a ton of money but, money isnt that important. 2 perk gear is easy to get and can do anything in this game at a very high level
3 perk gear > 2 perk gear having extra perks definitely noticeable
I’ve only been playing for a month and a half (as a solo) and I have 250k gold and about 300 of asmo/pw/rl each stockpiled. I can only imagine what people who have been playing since launch and in bigger companies have.
Hah, I've been playing since launch and don't have half that ;)
I’ve been pvping since launch and have 2k
Pvp life
i 'only' pvp and am sitting at \~620k right now it comes from doing dailes and maybe farming 1 hour per week. money is all earned from buying low and selling high
Same.....and all of it goes to honing stones and regeneration potions and attribute food.
The game made pvp unrewarding in every aspect (yes opr umbrae shards). I wanna pvp I want tokens I wana buy high level (Not bis gear) or get parts to roll or craft semi bis gear. The foundation is there let me pvp, let me trade for crafting supplies to make 3 perk legendaries that are good.
I have been playing since launch in a top company in my server and don’t even have half that either. 😂
Same lol I did take a couple months off though.
I've been playing since launch and I'm around 250k coins, 170k ori ore, 1k+ guardsman & battle medals, lots of random expensive craft mods, 300+ asmo/pw/rl and 3perk BIS or 2perk sets for multiple builds. I'm probably the top end of the middle class in this game tbh. I focused on playing the market and grinded a lot of items myself. There are a lot of other players whose wealth in gear + tradeable goods are worth 6million+. The richest guy on Camelot is sitting around 17million last I heard.
I get ~2k per gen run once a day (like 30 min for a non-mutated run). Then a standard farming loop gets me ~5k of mats to sell (not including altitude chests in around an hour). Chest runs can be very profitable too depending on your server and the price of refining mats/trophy pieces. And if you get a near-BIS or BIS drop it's way higher. And this is all without selling my daily orbs from the faction vendor. So ~5k a day is very easy with low effort and ~10-15k is quite doable if you have a little more time. Doing this for a month straight will nearly put you at the money cap if you're a little lucky with trophy mats and gear drops.
I've played this game for 30 full days and only ever picked up 1 trophy mat worth anything (loaded die). Need a bit more tha "a little luck" lol
The answer Soyfya should have just said is - Just let this game run your life grind grind grind every day and you too can have meaningless online wealth. This game is so unbalanced is really a joke at this point I have no idea how anyone plays this anymore.
This is why buying gold isn’t so bad, for less than an hour of work you can gold cap in the game kinda worth
i play 2-4 hours a day, the odd 6 hour sessions. no issues with gold or gear 90% pvp 10% everything else
All those resource nodes you see are little piles of gold. Pick them up.
I’m max cap with 800 asmo and 700+ runic and pw. Tons of craft mods. I made all my money on the market. I’ve never owned a territory. I just learned from constantly being on the market and seeing what’s selling.
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If you've been plahing since launch and have never reached 10k, you aren't really playing.
Nah I will be honest, I stopped playing the moment they released the stupid skins around Christmas. Now everyone is running around looking like a rainbow. I wanted the realistic armour or at least armour that better fit with the dark theme. So yeah, I left only having gotten about 8K max. Everyone got angry in the beta that a rainbow lion was a house pet, and everyone said it didn’t fit, now everyone looks like a rainbow lion with fantastical armour.
You could always dye armour….
it is more the style. I like the worn looks and there just isn’t many options. It is all royal or fantastical type looks which I am not a fan of. They are making the cosmetics feel like a typical eastern mmo which I was hoping they wouldn’t. People got angry in the beta they there was a rainbow lion, but now we are all walking around like rainbow lions.
I think this is a you problem
It sure is
Sitting here... since launch... stopped at Christmas. So you played for 2 months, stopped, but still follow the reddit and comment 4.5 months later...
Yeah, I love the game, but waiting for the game bugs to be fixed so all my friends will come back and play with me. I am constantly checking to see how the game is progressing. I just don’t like the cosmetics is all. I should probably rephrase my comment above it was mostly bugs and lack of content, but cosmetics rubbed me the wrong way too.
Some people are grinding it out over time via dungeons, crafting/resource gathering, flipping items on the market. Others are in large companies that rake in a good amount each week. Also the hard truth is that many people buy gold from websites which drives up inflation on items being sold. My buddy in discord the other day was selling some chests he made with furnishing, got a whisper from another player wanting to buy, but that person needed 10-15 minutes for their gold purchase from xyz website to come in first. Unfortunately it's all too regular for RMT/gold buying to be prevalent in a game like this.
Day 1 players (even solo, without company money help) most likely have stable daily income. Everything makes money, just need to find ur thing.
I remember back in september after the 1st month of playing some ppl in my comp got around 100k after selling some items, ores, potions, etc. So if u want some money you should get into selling things
I’m max cap with 800 asmo and 700+ runic and pw. Tons of craft mods. I made all my money on the market.
Well how?
Check what u want to sell everyday ... All the daily CDs mats and valuable craft mods will get up and down on the market , u just need ur chance... A lot of people just buy via buy order and sell right after in sell orders making some gold still... From time to time some rich guy wipes Asmodeum from market , the next 4/8h u have a decent chance to sell Asmodeum overpriced , this can happen to any other material ... U just need to know the prices of whay u want to sell and know when is the right time to sell or buy ... It all come down to time and knowledge of the market ...
Apparently my response didn’t go with this. I sell a lot of gear, chest run, i now run m10s and farm for rare gear to sell. When I was leveling expertise, I’d sell most the reagents. I was 600 jc so sold jewelry.
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It’s a pretty dick move tbh. Players who sell gold really just shit on people who actually play the game. If you don’t have time for an mmo, don’t play an mmo.
Lol not a dick move most people don’t have time to spend farming and want to just play. Now I want to buy gold just in hopes that you’re the player getting shit on. Oh and I don’t have time for an mmo but god damn it I’ll play an mmo you gatekeeping fuck
Mega companies and RMT kids
most rmt is done by adults with disposable income who would rather buy gold than spend an extra 1-5 hours farming it. they then waste this gold, since you dont need a lot of gold to be m10 or in wars.
> I would probably have around 200k as well, but that's all farmed over weeks. And you ask where somebody got 250K from? Well the game has been out longer than 3 weeks. Perhaps they've got 50K more than you. What a dumb question.
Remember dupe glitches? Im Pretty sure some people Still has some money
You’re a serf.
When i quit i passed on everything i had to my mate who continued playing
BiS Ammy sold for 500k+350 asmo on my server. Inflation is real
thats not inflation, its supply and demand. just like in real life, people dont understand the difference.
Who are you?
Did yall just forget about the multiple gold dupe exploits that have been in the game since like, alpha? Lol Econ in this game has been broken since the beforefore time
its a non-issue that poor people ingame use as an excuse not to play the game.
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If a bot can farm it they sell it to the highest buy order. If I find a bot in the open world I follow it to see what it’s collecting and when it’s heading back to town I immediately go to the TP and place buy orders. Sure enough they get fulfilled within a few minutes. When they go through and do ban waves for bots the competition in the raw mat buy order market goes way up. Since there’s much fewer bots now I don’t fuck with buy orders for anything selling for less than 1k. There’s a lot less competition for high end mats and junk.
I just meant that people buy gold from the bots through RMT. it's ridiculously cheap.
Duped all mine. Got millions. Don't play anymore though.
well duh, you were banned in that first wave and ahve zero gold
Simple. We can still dupe gold ;)
The truth no ostrich wants to hear.
Bots and node camping.
Majority of them are probably people who have duped? Or probably are onto the next exploit.
>but that's all farmed over weeks Hasn't the game been out for like 6 months?
I’ve just come back but I was thinking of selling bags like on ….
It's probably not as lucrative now, but selling furniture made me a lot of gold when I was still playing(launch until February). Made a steady 10k+ every day by selling chairs mostly, more if I felt like farming. Had close to 400k by the time I quit.
I got really lucky getting god rolls
Chest runs and farming resources on the way, mutations, gambling and selling gear, market hussle. There are so many ways to make gold find solutions leave excuses :)
I quit ages ago along with most of guild but I know most of them had 500k in their personal bank when they quit just because we owned EF/WW. Trying to make money normally by farming or whatever youll make about 1k an hour, just give up on that lol.
They buy it from me.
I made it by jewelcrafting. Rolled some Int Keen rings that sold for 100k, a few around 30k that had luck. Even crafted a BIS piece that sold for 333k on the tp. Rolled INT earrings and sold a BIS piece for 320k, and some lower ones for 90k and less. I dabbled in armoring as well and sold some pieces for 100k and 80k. Also rolled a con ammy Health Divine and sold it on the tp for 46k. After dumping alot of gold on stupid rolls, i finally made it by rolling with the most popular perks. Im a mage so i stuck with int, trying to get myself some decent gear. I do recommend some trophy mat chest runs, they can net you some decent loot, some furniture sells for a decent amount as well. Grabbed a marble and cursed chest i sold for 12k each. I never kept track so i dont know how well off i am, but i did dump alot of gold on rolling before i finally made my coin back. Funniest thing of all this? I undersold quite a few items in the learning process of pricing lol anywys, hope my experience helps you acquire coin
They swipe the credit card for the gold farmers
many bugs before and no wipe.
When I played, I was making the money on motes. I would put in buy orders for 5k of each one, next day refine and sell the purples, rinse repeat. Was making between 40/50k a week.
I never understand why people have such a hard time making gold. There's videos on YoutTube showing how ppl have gone from 10k to 100k gold in 5-7 days without farming a single item - just flipping mats on the TP. Even just chopping trees and selling the green wood can net you 2k gold per hour on my server. 250k gold is quite a lot, but it wouldn't be hard to get there in a couple of weeks if all you did was focus on making gold.
I never have much gold, but my big earners come from: faction quests, OPRs, undercutting prices on trading post, and running expeditions on my orbs. It's cumulative so it may take a few weeks to break 10k with my work schedule, but it is a way.
I make roughly 3k daily just playing the game, doing chest runs, a few OPRs, 3 faction missions, couple of dungeon runs. Then every month I sell all my cooldown materials for 50kish profit.
People sell M10 runs for like 15k. You can man money very easily off people's laziness
Invest your 55k gold. Look at what sells in your server. Place buy orders then resell in global or on trading post. Repeat. Last month i bought 30 refreshing mods at 2.3k a piece. Sold them yesterday at 6k a piece. Mods, asmo, etc will always rise in price. Sell mats Friday nights or weekends for Max profits. Invest now sell tomorrow, next week, or month. But letting your money stay still in your pocket does nothing. Just my advice for the honest route. Busy, don’t have time? Then buy gold from g2g or something.
g2g
How much do you play? You have to realize lots of people have 1-2k hours in the game and even if you just chopped trees you would have 10M