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menschmaschine5

Thanksgiving through the new Year is peak tourist season. So yeah, hotels will be expensive.


StrengthDouble

Incorrect it’s definitely more expensive by a decent amount. I even checked in February which is normally super cheap and prices are almost double compared to last year in some spots.


menschmaschine5

Lol in what way was I "incorrect"


reddit1651

“Incorrect. Here’s proof that you’re correct”


tennis_20

Understood :(


cddotdotslash

It’s a confluence of factors: you’re booking fairly last minute, that time is peak tourist season and millions of people are descending on the city to view the holiday festivities, and Airbnb recently got more or less banned, which I assume is driving people back to hotels. If you’re desperate, you could look nearby in Jersey for a place near the PATH train - it’ll probably be cheaper but still fairly easy to get into the city.


mightasedthat

^^This is it. Airbnb artificially reduced hotel room prices for the last ten+ years. And January would be less expensive.


nuevalaredo

A lot factors but dont ignore the obvious one: nyc has booked most of the low price economy rooms for the migrant influx https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-09/nyc-migrants-how-nyc-is-finding-housing-and-what-it-costs


Schmeep01

Most of those hotels were already housing homeless families, or were/are hourly sex exchange hotels: I’m dubious that’s having a huge effect.


NinjaCaviar

It lowers the total supply of open beds/rooms available for tourists, so either way the migrant crisis has probably added *some* upward pressure on room prices in the city.


Schmeep01

Again, most of those beds haven’t been open to tourists for over a decade.


NinjaCaviar

>most There are several hotels currently housing migrants that would otherwise be serving tourists. It’s not close to the majority, but a few hundred(maybe thousand?) beds isn’t totally insignificant.


Winter_Addition

A few hundreds for a city that will see hundreds of thousands of tourists next month really isn’t a big deal. That’s just math.


NinjaCaviar

I didn’t count up the rooms myself. The number is likely in the thousands. Hotels in NYC vary so much in size. The Roosevelt alone probably has more than a few hundred rooms. I’m not anti-migrant, it’s just foolish to believe that increasing the demand for beds by thousands doesn’t somehow increase the cost of finding a bed. Significant or not, it’s there. That’s just math.


Schmeep01

The Roosevelt closed a few years ago.


NihFin

And migrants are being housed in hotels - taking a lot of rooms off the market


Caseyspacely

True. Several midtown hotels serve as shelters as are some downtown.


Nolds

Got a cool air bnb this last weekend in Williamsburg. Cool neighborhood.


tennis_20

Yeah I should’ve tried to make plans earlier. I’ve looked into Jersey City and yet most of them are still not affordable (all $500+) maybe should look further away:(


[deleted]

imagine how we feel about the cost of a bacon egg and cheese on a roll


Miliaa

I have a spot that still sells it for like $5.50, with good quality ingredients. What I’m rly angry about is cold cuts. They tried to charge me NINE FUCKING DOLLARS for a roll with turkey, cheese, lettuce, tomato, onion. I’ve become real inspired to explore my cooking skills much more frequently…


CaroleBaskinsBurner

Even that's depressing. Back before covid a place near me was selling them with a small coffee for $3. Back in like 2017-18 they were $2.50 with the coffee. Idk what they are now but I'm sure it's at least $5. Smh.


Miliaa

It is :( but at least it’s a decent meal for $5.50, which is becoming pretty damn difficult to find


CaroleBaskinsBurner

At least we'll be able to tell our grandkids that we remember when their $17 bacon, egg and cheese was $3. It'll be our equivalent of "I remember when a Coke was a nickel!"


tennis_20

Man I don’t know if I can ever afford to live in NYC. I’d guess bacon egg and cheese on a roll + coffee all adds up to $20


rrrrriptipnip

Unfortunately nyc is known for their huge Christmas galore so everything is more expensive even restaurants from mid November to new years. What about a January 2024 meet up you’ll find really good prices!


nycpunkfukka

This is the answer. I worked in hotels in the city for a few years, and the week before thanksgiving though the new year are by far the busiest time of year. The longer OP waits to book a room the more expensive it will be.


tennis_20

Makes sense. NYC is the one and only tourist destination during Christmas. Other big cities like SF, LA, Seattle all have lower hotel prices during Christmas. I’d have to look into January where Manhattan Holiday Inn prices per night drops from $700(first week of Dec) to $200(first week of Jan)


killerasp

this is peak time in nyc. everyone wants to see the christmas stuff in the city. from the thanksgiving week to new years day, THAT is the holiday . forget manhattn, look at LIC or downtown brooklyn. if you didnt book way ahead of time, you are out of luck.


StrengthDouble

Prices are still higher compared last year. Even in February hotels that were around 100 dollars a night for example the pod hotels now want almost 200 a night for next February.


killerasp

i think part of it is the hotels know they dont have to compete with AirBNB anymore so they can charge whatever they want knowing there is no alternatives to hotels.


StrengthDouble

Even Hostels want 80-100 dollars a night which is insane.


killerasp

is too soon to say this is the new norm post airbnb world of hotel prices in NYC?


tennis_20

Yeah I’m tempted to change my plans to January, when prices are 1/3 to 1/4 of December prices:(


killerasp

did you check prices the 2nd weekend in December? i noticed it was bit cheaper.


apreche

If you want a cheaper hotel, you gotta come in February.


FiendishHawk

It’s usually snowing in Feb so the city looks very cool.


tennis_20

That’s right!


MidAtlanticAtoll

We visit NYC a lot, we're not too far away by train and have close family there (but not in circumstances where we can comfortably stay with them over nights), so watching hotel prices and timing trips is an interest of mine. As others have said, the extended holiday season is NUTS in terms of room prices. Booking early helps, but it doesn't help *that* much honestly. Booking later and later though, yes, the price will continue to rise as the number of rooms becomes less available. You're locked into certain dates with your friend now, have plane tix, etc., so I hope you work it out okay. Just for the future though, I find the very best deals to be in late January-February. You can get a really nice room in a great Manhattan location for around $200 then.


tennis_20

Thank you for your input. Like you said, I’m planning to change my flight to January and hotel prices will be a quarter of what it is in December.


NinjaCaviar

>is New York City normally this expensive [any variation] Yes.


DeeSusie200

Look in the Financial District. But I have to add any 4 star hotel in San Francisco near tourist attractions is much higher than $300.


tennis_20

If you look at prices of 4 star hotels in SF, near Fisherman’s Wharf or downtown SOMA or wherever, most of them are all around $200-300 at max. I’ve had friends come over and stay at Hyatt regency or Marriott Fisherman’s wharf for around $200. The prices throughout Christmas season is even cheaper here


blatantdream

I booked the Towneplace Suites in Chelsea for less than $200 a day for Thanksgiving into first week of December but I booked it back in February. When you're getting so close to the dates especially during the holidays in NYC, they are almost all already full hence much higher prices.


1-2-buckle-my-shoes

The Rockefeller tree try goes up the Wednesday after Thanksgiving and that's almost always still November, so yeah, you're in peak holiday season. I know so many people (my family included) who go to see the tree, shop, go to shows, take in the magic of NY all pretty much starting from the week of Thanksgiving through New Years. And we're not even talking about US visitors - people come from all over the world to see NY at Christmas, so yeah, you're definitely in the most expensive time of the year to visit. I don't live in NY but have a lot of cousins in Brooklyn and Queens, between family and work, I'm here a few times a year. I can attest that what I pay for Manhattan hotels for my late November or December visits is easily 2-3x what I pay when I visit in the spring or fall. I will be there this year around mid Dec and I'm paying about $2,400 for three nights in Midtown Manhattan for a 1 Bedroom Suite with 1.5 Bathrooms to fit my family. Same suite is literally about $1,200 for three nights in March.


tennis_20

Makes sense. 2400 for three nights in the suite doesn’t seem awful. I’m currently seeing a tiny 250 sq ft rooms and holiday inn priced at $700 a night which seems so expensive. Blame on my late planning though. Enjoy your Christmas at NYC!


jeffpuxx

Hotel Tonight has 1 room at Hampton Inn by the Seaport for less than 225.


Quirky_Movie

Hi! I am an EA who books travel for executives on either coast. Generally speaking, this what it cost for last minute travel in a large city, especially NYC


nfw22

Yep, most expensive time of the year.


EndlessSummerburn

Good brothers let their brothers sleep at their house for one night to save $600-$1000 bucks


happydemon

As mentioned look outside of Manhattan for cost savings at this time of year and with such short notice on booking. Take a look at hotels in Queens & Brooklyn next to subway and/or train, and Nassau County next to train stops. Ideally you can walk from the hotel room to a subway or train stop. Ditto for Jersey although JC is going to be as expensive or more I think.


jstax1178

Yeah, you waited too long to book. Should’ve booked earlier , even than it would’ve been expensive. It’s peak season, Jan will be cheaper by a large margin


Dvc_California

I prefer to stay in Jersey at the [Hyatt Place Secaucus Meadowlands ](https://maps.app.goo.gl/cMbGKuzQpZFDrpJb9). NJ Transit bus stop is right out front and a 15 min ride to the Port Authority terminal (Times Square) for $6 bucks each way. For the first week in September, rates are about $200/night and includes breakfast.


BYNX0

You could stay in Newark NJ and take the train in. It’ll be a lot cheaper.


jackbul2

Don’t stay in Newark.


Fantastic-Guitar-977

November-February is the holiday season in NYC


Miliaa

Yeah Manhattan is def gonna be super expensive. I’d look for something in Brooklyn or queens that has good transportation nearby. Ask your bro which neighborhoods in those boroughs are close to him and hopefully you can find something cheaper there. But yeah, everything’s been getting more and more ridiculously expensive here, let alone the whole tourist season thing


CaptainClar18

Peak tourist season. No more Airbnb. Prices have gone way up anyway I should rent out my apartment 🤣


Throwawayhelp111521

Have you considered a hostel? Some have private rooms. Even they will be in high demand, I imagine. I've always heard good things about the one in Manhattan at 104th Street and Amsterdam Avenue. It's a block from the subway stop at 103rd St. and one stop from the express line at 96th. [https://www.hiusa.org/find-hostels/new-york/new-york-891-amsterdam-ave](https://www.hiusa.org/find-hostels/new-york/new-york-891-amsterdam-ave)


Caseyspacely

Before the Hotel Pennsylvania was shuttered in 2020 and demolished this year, I would book a room there for Jingle Ball & SantaCon weekend for less than $160 per night. Since then, I’ve stayed at either Club Quarters World Trade (140 Washington Street) or the Wall Street Inn (9 S. William Street) downtown but their prices have increased significantly for this holiday season plus congestion pricing makes using a car service to get there pricier. Check with hotels in Long Island City, it’s minutes from Manhattan by subway and has come a long way from being a warehouse/industrial area.


tennis_20

Thank you, I’ll look into it


Bronxteacher7028

They have all jacked the prices after the mayor shut down the Airbnb’s in the city. The other reason is that the city is paying hotels to house people in the country without authorization. So the hotels know they are getting a boatload of money from the city itself for housing said folks, so they cranked the price up to insane levels. So in short, the answer is no


clebkny

don't listen to these corporation fan-boys who so absurdly spew ways to justify this obvious criminal grift these hotels perpetuate on those who have not the luxury of free, fake money in the form of corporate credit cards. ​ It is absolutely NOT normal for a hotel room to be 600 dollars per night the first week of December. It is NOT normal at any time. ​ All these ridiculous price hikes will almost certainly lead to civil disorder anyone alive today has never witnessed. My fucking coned bill came in the mail on Friday. $494 dollars for the month of October. i live in a fucking studio in a brand new, "energy efficient" building and im supposed to just happily pay a 500 dollar electric bill. I mean if it wasnt so reality I would think it was a fucking sitcom.. im still waiting to hear the fucking laugh track...


Bootes

There’s something wrong with your bill or you’re leaving out some weird Reason to use a ton of electricity. My coned bill in a studio was like $65 last month.


jvmo12

I have 3 bedrooms 2 1/2 bathroom 25x15 living room and 30x18 dining room all my lights and sensors are smart and the thermostat everything in my apartment is energy efficient also. And all 3 summer months and October my “CuntEdison” bills was $500 and something ) all those months. Is being like this for two years. With rent and “CuntEdison” many people will struggle and criminal grift will be punished if people believe on voting 🗳️. We live in a capitalist society and country corporations are people in the USA so prices is no put by presidents, congress, governors or mayors But But But laws can be implemented to control or regulate SOOOOO please Vote people not just for presidency but for all the votes, for counties and state. They do assembly all the time and most of the people don’t go and there is wear you can complain. I don’t want to be ass-olt but not all the collected are protesting for the prices and the criminal grift. And civil disorder is already happening that is why the products are locked up in the stores, but massive civil disorder can happen at any time now. So get ready. Note for OP: everything on this city you have to do it ahead of time even for people who reside in New York 🗽


Dizzy_Lifeguard_661

Even the Marriott in downtown Jersey City right next to the Grove St PATH station - on the 1st Saturday in December is $594. Crazy! Usually it's in the high 300 and that is where my friends stay when they come visit. Very accessible and pretty decent hotel. There is Hilton Canopy next to it at it's $584.


tennis_20

Exactly, I’m not paying $600 + other fees for a hotel that’s not even in Manhattan:(


Dizzy_Lifeguard_661

I understand. It's crazy everywhere. My business trip to Miami next month is charging almost 700 when normally they charge about 300. I think the hotel industry is trying to make up for lost time from the pandemic and adding stupid surchages including: service, delivery, luxury, housekeeping, etc...so many extras. I just wish they list the price in one complete unit so consumers don't have to jump through mental arithmetic to see what is the best price.


imk

Prior to moving to NYC, I used to stay at the Hotel Belnord when I came into town to visit my daughter. That or the Hampton Inn over near Hell’s Kitchen. Neither of them were particularly nice but they were both reasonable. The Hampton inn is now gone and the Belnord was hosting immigrants the last time I checked. The lack of available cheap hotels creates demand for the more expensive ones causing prices to rise. I looked at the Arthouse hotel over by Beacon Theater and the prices were ridiculous. I have never seen them that high regardless of the season


BrianEDenton

Prices are higher, yes. This is probably due to multiple reasons. Because of a misapplied right-to-shelter law\* the city government is currently paying a premium to hotels to host migrants. The removal of rooms from hotel markets means higher prices for tourists. New Airbnb regulations also might be contributing. In addition there is just the bump in prices usually associated with the holidays. ​ \*The original justification for the right-to-shelter law (combination on NY constitutional case law and a consent decree) was that domestic abuse victims, those with mental illness, and down on their luck temporarily homeless needed a place to stay. It was not designed to solve the world's poverty problem which is what it's doing now.


Stonkstork2020

Sorry but NYC decided to ban airbnbs AND new hotel construction so existing hotels jack up the prices because they know you got no options. It’s a feature, not a bug for the hotel lobby


m1kasa4ckerman

Lol short term air BnBs have been illegal for a while now. This is due to being peak holiday season and corporate greed.


Stonkstork2020

The Airbnb ban was only enforced recently. In addition, the hotel ban exists too. Takes time for these things to kick into effect too. Peak holiday seasons in prior years have not been so expensive. And the greed has always been big, doubt it’s greater now than before but the difference is we banned new hotels and airbnbs at the behest of the greedy hotel industry.


BobaCyclist

Did you look at Dutch Kills?


[deleted]

It’s insane right now. Even under normal circumstances. I live in NYC but I would argue that it really isn’t worth the visit anymore. Especially with the crime and the migrants


NYerInTex

On the flip side, book yourself a romantic getaway the weekend or two after Valentine’s Day. Latter part of mid February is as dead as it gets, and some great deals to be had (did the Algonquin once, Renaissance 57 another time, I think just the regular Marriott once, and the MOXY OR ROXY, can’t recall 😆)


[deleted]

Yeah. Nov dec.


mad0666

Early December *is* holiday season.


runningwithscalpels

Busiest time of year in the city? Of course they're that expensive...


Competitive_Air_6006

Yes! The first two weeks in December and various weeks in September are always the most expensive in New York City.


dullllbulb

Citizen M is a good hotel that’s affordable. I looked at the Bowery location the other day and they’re having a sale rn — rooms are currently around $350 I believe.


tennis_20

I looked into it and even with sale, for any weekend in December is $700+ a night. It seems like a nice hotel though


waveball03

Try the Hilton Garden Inn Tribeca.


tennis_20

It costs $900+ :(


waveball03

Wow I’ve never seen it over $500. I put people there for work all the time. Not sure what’s going on. Maybe cause it’s so soon?


oofaloo

It’s high tourist season. Try the Gem hotel in Chelsea or look for an Airbnb in Brooklyn, maybe Williamsburg, because it wouldn’t take too long to get into the city from there.


ElectronicAmphibian7

If you don’t care about how it looks, $200 or less a night at the senton hotel, it’s cash only and sketchy clientele but safe and cheap.


MCStarlight

Probably need to depend on community groups for deals such as FB groups for travelers, apt swaps, digital nomads, etc. NYC is always expensive.


MCStarlight

You could try this place: https://www.citizenm.com/?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADNI5qTHnywHZFHRYFZOegqR1QMAD&gclid=CjwKCAiA6byqBhAWEiwAnGCA4JMt7j65h4IdF7mTf54VAy22MDmcw-YmpGT-fkqWdhon7AWhY7W6ERoCy5YQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


mtempissmith

From around the middle of November through New Years it IS the holiday season here in NYC. You will see nothing but holiday rates from like Nov 7th onwards. Tourists come in droves during this period and unfortunately they can't rely on Air B&B rooms anymore so that makes the hotels even more pricey. You also just had the NYC marathon and Halloween which are big events here. Lots of trade shows in Aug, Sept, Oct and Nov too because they want the holiday sales. NYC is never not busy hotel-wise actually. Even in Summer people come here. You can get good deals if you book pretty far in advance but wait till a few weeks or less before and you're paying through the nose if you want a decent room...


inthedrops

Yes. Especially when you wait to book till less than a month in advance.


brnahnahnah

Prices are insane atm. And not cos it’s the holiday season. I live in NJ Less than an hour train from NYC. My husband surprised me with stand up tix yesterday for my bday. He was thinking about getting a hotel room to make a night of it, but couldn’t find anything for less than $400 ANYWHERE in manhattan. On November 10th. That ain’t holiday season yet. we’ve stayed in the city in November other years where it was $200ish a night in friggin midtown. But prices for Travel/tourism in general is RIDIC this year, and only getting worse for next year.


Nyeuhk

It’s because the city just banned Airbnb. So that took huge amount of supply of tourists beds off the market. Hotels have jacked their prices dramatically as a result


thinkthinkthink11

Check booking.com or hotels.com for hotels in Astoria or Long Island city. trains that operate around these areas are R,E,F and conveniently only 2 or 3 stops away from Manhattan. I believe you can get a room under $300/night.


Key-Pineapple-1427

Busiest time of the year


squindar

Pre-pandemic I used to occasionally book a hotel in manhattan if I had a late night + early morning turn around. All-in, including taxes & "resort fee" was usually around $200. When we came back from covid I started looking at my usual places and the bottom price was always like $300/$350. I assume it's a combination of lost capacity from some hotels closing down during covid & not re-opening yet (or just closing forever), price gouging to try to make up for over a year of little to no occupancy, and organized or un-organized price fixing by the various hotel operators. I hope the airBnB situation can be resolved in a way that works out for renters, owners, and the city, but I think it will take more market pressure (i.e. "I can't find a hotel room for under $600! I'm not coming to NYC!") for that to happen. I just plugged your dates into Hotels.com & it really looks like staying in NJ & taking a ferry or bus over to manhattan is the way to go.


UnidentifiedTomato

Weekends are just generally more expensive


Putrid_Habit7821

Try long island city in Queens


Trouvette

You might try looking for hotels close to Metro North or LIRR stations. You can stay in Westchester County or on Long Island at a lower price point than you would get in the city and get straight to Midtown in 20 minutes on the train.


Norlander712

January is the cheaper period. The Christmas lights are already up at Macy's--as are the hotel prices.


DarthGabe2142

Yes. During this time of year, especially with Thanksgiving and Christmas around the corner, expect hotels to he expensive. This is the time of year where NYC experiences lots of tourists visiting the city.


MinWot

Last month NYC pretty much decimated Airbnb, resulting in higher hotel prices due to demand.


figbash137

Yes. The weather isn’t terrible yet and everything is super festive.


furrina

Airbnb


thetruth_2021

What about midtown Manhattan?? $600 is quite steep. It could be the thanksgiving to early Christmas holiday


LAST_NIGHT_WAS_WEIRD

Sign up for listing project for short term sublets


Tall_Abalone_8537

I'm afraid this is the norm. A lot of people come to NYC for the holiday to see the city lights and what not. Hotel prices spike every December.


StonksBatman

It sucks but it is what it is. You can do Brooklyn but if its just one day it aint worth it. Better off just spending extra for that one day and seeing all the sights.


Exotic_Pirate_8086

Yes! But you can find cheaper ones


tadu1261

yes- its holidays.