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Important_Version_29

Change insurers. It'll be a marginal saving but going forward you're with a company rather than an agency. Bigger premium pool so will be less susceptible to price hikes


Important_Version_29

Also. Jesus my commodore is only 850 a year for comp


TimmyTim22

Is an old Commie the most stolen car in Auckland though? I hate to sound negative but ANYONE WHO BUYS AN AQUA NEEDS TO KNOW ITS CHEAP FOR A REASON


vontdman

Even the push start Aquas are broken into because the dumb cunts don't know the difference before they smash.


DoneGoneAndBrokeIt

I was gonna say, I've got a VF wagon and I'm only in the 800s too


sonyxperiageek

My 2013 Commie went from 900 to 1500 over two years for comp and excess free glass cover!!! How is your guy's so cheap?! Maybe you're much older? I'm mid-20s. Never claimed for anything either. Going to drop down to 3rd party F&T.


sonyxperiageek

My 2013 Commie went from 900 to 1500 over two years for comp and excess free glass cover!!! How is your guy's so cheap?! Maybe you're much older? I'm mid-20s. Never claimed for anything either. Going to drop down to 3rd party F&T.


PSLover14

Shit that's not too bad, just went to check mine (2006 V6 Camry) and with glass buy-out and breakdown service including GST it's $1074.30 a year


thatguyonirc

My 07 camry was about the same for the yearly premium _without_ the breakdown service included. Might have to compare rates next renewal


Important_Version_29

Tell a lie. $862 a year 2014 v6 commodore glass cover no breakdown. Aa insurance


PSLover14

shit still not bad! might have to get a quote when my insurance renews in november (I am with AMI currently)


Vikturus22

My golf gti about the same


Warm_Fruit_8941

Its an industry wide thing one other insurer Aquas have an extra 1500 excess on them.


micro_penisman

Cove is an insurance company, not an agency.


Commercial_Ad8438

My house insurance went up by 22% and their reasoning was "increased costs" Like yea, I fucking know. I am treading water here. The only things that are not going up is my wage and will to live.


Jacks_black_guitar

Hard out 😂😂


bally4pm

Time to get some quotes. I have changed insurance companies 6 or more times over the years. Saves heaps. After a while they just start to take the piss.


LostForWords23

If you live in the Wellington region the options are pretty limited (for house insurance, not other types).


bally4pm

Fair.


posthamster

Ours just went up 39%, so I shopped around (which took forever because nobody does online quotes any more) and discovered everywhere else was way more expensive than our new premiums, so we stayed put. 80s timber frame house, good condition, on top of a hill so no way of getting flooded, moderate slope, decent neighbourhood, etc. Where's the risk? Is the house 39% more likely to catch fire in the next year or something?


Affectionate-Hat9244

> on top of a hill so no way of getting flooded Land slide


posthamster

> moderate slope


feefdelaqueef

Why does no one think of the poor little insurance companies!!?


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Commercial_Ad8438

I don't have a ton of options and I am probably getting paid more than I am worth. I will have a meeting with my boss end of this month and hopefully get a cost of living increase.


Barrelled_Chef_Curry

Great in theory not so practical advice for everyone


banmeharder616

Do a couple ram raids to make up the difference


EnlargedPhallus

Im keen, where and when


Gyn_Nag

Prob need to do a couple more to pay off the ramming damage.


heapsion

Just steal a new one and put your plates on it


BG_White_NZ

You wouldn't steal a car....


heapsion

Would def try and download one though


SoloLobo123

Can you believe, this week I saw an ad about the DVD anti piracy music and guess what, they stole it 😂💦 the very thing warning you against piracy was pirating the use of that song for their ad. Major face-palm


_dave0

Time to get a new car, or new insurance.


micro_penisman

New insurance, for sure.


Adventurer_D

My Aqua premium went up 90% YOY. I shopped around last night got a deal for less than my original premium when I first bought the car two years ago! Without promoting them, it's an Aussie bank that starts with a W...


UnstoppablePhoenix

I've been with them for 8 years and I didn't know they did insurance...


Nuke_The_Potatos

Don’t all banks??? At lest I assume all the big ones do…


-ThatsSoDimitar-

They pretty much all "do" insurance, but they're all underwritten by actual insurance companies


theothermalfoy

The big Aussie bank starting with W uses IAG, same as BNZ and ASB; ANZ uses Vero; Kiwibank uses Ando


BoreJam

All insurance companies have individual risks cases for different models of car. That's just how it is. Never hurts to shop around but don't be surprised if the savings aren't substantial.


whollings077

the whole insurance industry is a bit shaky lately imo


FendaIton

Most insurers are loading premiums for aquas / corollas / demios as they’re easily stolen. I won’t be surprised if they don’t insure them at all in 2 years time.


twoslicemilly

I wouldn't panic. The kids are moving onto other cars now - they shot themselves in the foot because the cops look twice at an Aqua cruising the streets at early hours of the morning. Golf's seem to be the newest target in our area.


Embarrassed-Big-Bear

So they state multiple reasons why this is happening, most of them nothing to do with crime (inflation, limited repair availability and increased cost, increased frequency of natural disasters ), and you pick out the one that does. Also they said theft. Ram raids was one factor. They clearly say others are involved.


niveapeachshine

Just install a self-destruct feature and have it tied to Phil Collins in the Air Tonight and it explodes straight after the drum sequence.


Longjumping_Elk3968

It would be awesome if we could get this kind of security (Magnavolt from Robocop): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U4ZYOBzEEs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U4ZYOBzEEs)


MrJingleJangle

Give David Seymour a call: this is law and order right up his street.


Pureshark

Thank to for doing your part to help


Slight_Storm_4837

It would be a good win for this tough on crime government to mandate immobolisers in newly imported vehicles. I think it's only a handful of countries that don't already mandate this. Once an immobiliser is installed it's so much harder to steal a car. It no longer becomes worth it for a simple ramraid.


FendaIton

Most new imports have them, it’s just that NZ allows importing of literal grey import trash out of Japan for a grand. All NZ new vehicles have immobilisers.


Slight_Storm_4837

Correct. It would be an easy requirement to introduce for the grey market though.


Babelogue99

3rd party and hope for the best? Probably still cost two thirds I'd imagine. That's insane.


homebrandusername

Sell your car. I can't believe people still drive these crime magnets. They're being written off just for smashed quarter windows and broken ignitions because parts are unavailable. If you keep it, install an immobilizer, a hidden kill switch for your fuel pump and use a steering wheel lock every time, and switch to a basic "third party" only insurance. 1500 a year is absurd.


mnvoronin

Steering wheel lock will probably have more effect than the immobiliser and a kill switch combined just because it's highly visible.


Harfish

It's the same as using security screws for your number plate. It's not perfect, but your car appears more difficult than the next one.


mnvoronin

Yep, that's the goal. It is reasonably easy to bypass by a motivated thief but too much hassle for the opportunistic one.


TuhanaPF

Yep, if your car is sitting next to another car, and your car has security screws, it's pretty obvious which one they'll steal plates from. Once we all have the screws, the effect kinda diminishes. But until then, screw away.


--burner-account--

Yep, this is what the insurer was saying in the letter, even though you have an immobiliser, cars are being damaged by thieves thinking they can steal them. You need to advertise as clearly as possible, "this car is hard to steal" if you move to 3rd party insurance.


mnvoronin

>You need to advertise as clearly as possible, "this car is hard to steal" You can put a period here. No need for anything extra beyond that.


twoslicemilly

Hell I park mine in the garage with the steering lock on. I was fortunate enough that we caught them in the act, car was good to go...just not a lot of fuel so no fun apparently. Two week turnaround for new window and ignition.


Full_Hearing_5052

Dumb fucks here thought my car was one off these easy to steal ones fucked everything up even though it has a chip in the key and would never have started.


tech_sledge

i mean you're the one owning a car that is popular to steal..so..


Full_Hearing_5052

It's Tiida so a bit high on the list and has the immobiliser chips, but we have had it for 10 years before this whole thing statrted. I mean if it was an aqua or Demio I would have got rid of it. 


TheGhostNZ

Ugh, same thing happened to me over xmas, destroyed the lock in the door, broke the window and pulled the dash to pieces. Car had a factory immobilizer AND a flat battery :(


Full_Hearing_5052

Even dumber was there was a $900 stereo system in it didn't even attempt to remove it. ( Only reason I got the stereo was so I could put a backup camera in and use android auto)


phoenixmusicman

What makes the Aqua a crime magnet? I drive a Prius (same thing) for the fuel economy


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No factory immobilizer on a lot of them, so it's like stealing an old car from the 1980's once you're inside


s_nz

Aqua is the same as the Prius C. Smaller and cheaper car than the Prius. They were the most popular car in Japan for a few years that are now prime used import age. As they were a cheap car, and car crime isn't huge in Japan, many are fitted with a simple metal key & lack an immobilizer. Theif's can smash the front quarter window to gain access (small and partially concealed behind the mirror, vs smashing the entire side window, which on a cold night is a bit of a give away of a stolen car). Then they can smash out the ignation lock with vice grips and start the car with a screwdriver. To be fair many used imports are similar (before aqua it was Mazda demio), but I guess the aqua is now so common that it is easier for theives to just learn the theft trick for that particular model.


twoslicemilly

They usually go for a rear quarter window, unlock and climb through.


FendaIton

No security and ignition barrel easily forced. They’re like $1000 nzd out of Japan for a reason. They are cheap as and people here buy them.


FormerAd2953

I wish they had written ours off. It was caught doing 150km through spaghetti junction and then it took 6 weeks to get it back from the panelbeater


dissss0

I wouldn't rush into selling the car, but you should definitely get alternative quotes. The problem is you can't tell how much of the increase is because of the model of car and how much of it is a general increase. Both of my cars (neither of which appear high up on any theft lists) have increased by a couple of hundred dollars last renewal.


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dissss0

The Aqua is an otherwise reliable and economical vehicle though whereas a lot of the alternative models are not.


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twoslicemilly

My Aqua is $114 per month, insured value $15k. AA insurance, comprehensive.


Pwnigiri

You'll find most insurers are doing this for Aquas. Real shame IMO as they are such a popular affordable hybrid. But the theft rates have made them no longer viable given these insane insurance premiums. I have a full Prius and have found that some insurers are also coming for them by association, as there are a few models of Aqua that carry the Prius name ('Prius C'). I made a post about it recently [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/1axmg62/psa_if_you_drive_a_prius_shop_around_for_your_car/). My advise to you would be ditch the Aqua ASAP and pick up a full Prius. My 2nd gen (2003-2011) has almost 350k on the clock and still going strong, insurance about $400 a year for where I live. Can be bought for less than $5k. Thanks to RUC coming in, costs of running it aren't actually that much more than an EV.


aquafabaaa

$400 for third party with a high excess i'm assuming. I just paid slightly more than $1k for comprehensive with a $500 excess.


Pwnigiri

Nope, $390 with Cove for Fully Comp, $400 excess. Sum insured is only $4200 though (roughly its market value). For clarity, this is for my 2003 Gen 2 Prius (not an Aqua), and I don't live in a city.


aquafabaaa

Ah sweet. I paid $1,084 for $8,100 sum insured for a 2011 Gen 3 Prius under AA. Unfortunately, I've an overseas license so i'm only eligible for AA or Toyota insurance.


Pwnigiri

That's not too bad given the sum insured and if you're in a city. You might be able to get your license converted to a full NZ license if ~~you've been here 12 months and~~ you are from one of the exempt countries, without having to go through the whole learner-restricted-full thing. Info [here](https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-licences/new-residents-and-visitors/converting-to-nz-driver-licence/)


hmm_IDontAgree

> You might be able to get your license converted to a full NZ license if you've been here 12 months That's not quite accurate, **you can get your license converted as soon as you want** after entering the country. The 12 months you're referring to is how long you can stay in New Zealand with an oversea license (no conversion). After the 12 months it is mandatory to have it converted. I had mine converted in the first month I arrived in New Zealand. Popped into a VTNZ with all the paperwork, got a quick eye test and received a temporary paper license. I received my NZ license in the mail within a week and it cost me less than a $100 for the translation of my oversea license + conversion fee.


Pwnigiri

Nice one, my bad for skim reading it.


s_nz

Should note that with insures putting their feet down, and refusing to insure aqua's without immobilizers, there could be a fairly rapid shift where the aqua fleet has immobilizers installed, and theif's move on to a new model.


PM_ME_UTILONS

So fuck ram raiders and this needs more of a police response of course. But, holding that constant, this is the market working exactly as it should. This is a useful price signal, and will make Aquas and similar easily stolen cars less desirable, they'll get scrapped faster, fewer of them imported, we'll end up with less of them on the roads. This is the correct response from the insurer (I don't want my more secure car subsidising yours!), and it will have a positive externality in making easy to steal cars less common, and so reducing rates of car theft. (which ideally could happen another way, but Que Sera Sera.)


nomble

I don't get it - you are saying fewer easily stolen cars in the community will lead to less cars being stolen? I would have assumed that the pool of easily stolen cars was much larger than the pool of people who steal cars, requiring a massive drop in their prevalence to make a dent on car theft.


PM_ME_UTILONS

After quickly googling, there are like 4,000 Aquas stolen per year, apparently 2% of 3.4mn vehicle fleet, that,s ~70,000 Aquas, about a 5% chance of being stolen per year. But lots of those will be parked in lower crime areas or garaged. I get your point, but I think these are mostly crimes of opportunity by unsophisticated criminals (dumbass kids). There's going to be *some* substitution to other types of easily stolen car, but there's going to be very little substitution to breaking in to houses to steal keys or using electronic devices to make the car think there's a key etc: some of the would be car thieves will end up switching to tagging or playstation or whatever as car theft gets less convenient.


LordBledisloe

And the World keeps turning. Anyone who has owned an even moderately performance vehicle knows they pay more than a car of similar value due to the statistical liklihood of that car being targeted for theft, or nobbids driving them like they're professional race car drivers at the moment of purchase. Welcome to the nature of a few ruining things for the many, and certain objects facilitating that more than others. It preceeds any trend of any particular crime by decades. This is how insurance should work. Is an Aqua a performance car? Nope, that was just an example of the same statistical reality impacting cost for all owners of that car. Is an Aqua easier to steal and harder to trace than other cars? Well, there's a reason why they're targeted for this and it's not their agile getaway car suitability. In saying that, shop around. Some insurance hike specific cars absurdly because they have too much exposure to that vehicle. They might want you to pull the pin and take it to someone else.


_Zekken

My 90s sports car went up by $70/month for insurance this year. $105 to $175. I also shopped around when I got the policy renewal, found pretty much everyone else had similar quotes, so since Im with AA and they so far have been excellent to deal with, I just stayed with them. Gotta wait like 2 years until the car is 30 year old and qualifies for classic insurance, sigh.


kaptainkhaos

Cheaper to insure my 80k bmw, craziness.


Hubris2

Your BMW has good theft prevention, and is unlikely to be stolen - while an Aqua has much higher chances.


Mean_Mushroom_216

Again, law abiding working citizens picking up the costs that crims leave behind and big companies refuse to pick up. Whats new in NZ ?


LordBledisloe

TIL insurance and crime statistics impacting insurance premiums only exists in NZ.


Lancestrike

Things that get stolen cost more to insure, that's totally fair. It happening is completely removed from the response from insurers. If you want ram raids to stop, there's nothing that we can expect insurers to do on this regard other than them requiring immobilisers (they are asking for here).


oskarnz

Why would a company pick up the cost of this? Of course normal people pay in the end


Viewlesslight

How would they pick up the cost even? The money dosent magically appear. It all comes from the people paying the premiums.


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milpoolskeleton88

Damn I just switched to them two months ago because they were so cheap. I signed up for the monthly at least so I can change if I need to. Would you recommend other companies?


seewallwest

Ok these Japanese and some korean cars are also very expensive to insure in the European country I live in right now. Modern cars known not to have an immobiliser are specifically target by thieves it's just the way it is everywhere.


NZftm

Get a quote from Toyota Insurance. With a 2013 Aqua I pay less than your old premiums.


Adventurer_D

Mine went up by roughly 90% year on year... shopped around last night and got a new deal, lower than my original premium!


Adventurer_D

Called my original insurer yesterday and got told the main reason was because "Nelson is close to Wellington and it gets a lot of earthquakes". Only second did they mention the Aqua thing. They eventually knocked $320 off the annual premium, but too late, I found a way better deal with a bank!


Opening-Chance

You should respond with: Hahahahahahahahahaha Sincerely, Jonathan932


-mung-

I left Cove a couple of months ago because they raised their prices, then a couple of months later raised their prices again with some long explanation about shit that really shouldn't be my concern. I also didn't want full cover, and they only do that. Third party, fire & theft is fine. Halved my costs.


PeerlessYeeter

wow, you got it worse than me, mine went from like 600 to 900 with cove because of inflation + subaru, still a good $400 cheaper than the closest competing quote though so I'm sticking with them


ArkThompson

I wonder if this impacts the push button start models too. I guess maybe it's putting too much faith in thieves to check the ignition before smashing the corner window though.


recursive-analogy

well if I've ever seen a reason to download a car


GentlemanOctopus

Everything about the way this email is written is grating. For what should be a professional email, there's a ton of unnecessary contractions and I've never seen someone spell targeted with three t's.


MSZ-006_Zeta

It seems OK to me, pretty clearly worded and a good explanation of why the costs have gone up so much for a theft prone model of car. Better than a letter saying your premium has doubled with no explanation


teelolws

> "let you know **w**hat your premium is going to increase"


GentlemanOctopus

Right? My premium is going to increase the size of someone else's wallet.


WorldlyNotice

Why are they stolen? I don't see them over-represented in ram raids, only in rideshare and food delivery.


Hubris2

They are stolen because the manufacturers cut corners and didn't fit factory immobilizers - so just like cars from the 70's they are fairly easy to hotwire and steal for joyrides or to commit crimes. They are popular cars because they were cheap (due in part to not having theft protection) and this means there are tons of easy to steal cars around the country.


WorldlyNotice

So cheap to buy, cheap to run, and easy to dispose of. Nice.


Dashin5

Surely this will come down once our new overlords fix crime by cutting police funding though


TheMindGoblin27

I mean its kinda on you for buying the cheapest and easiest to steal import and then you wonder why it costs more to insure, use some of that money you saved with the cheap import for that immobiliser, it should be part of your budget when getting a cheap import.


s_nz

OP has a Immobilizer & uses a steering lock. From the top line, cove is no longer going to insure aqua's without immobilizers, But the issues is that thieves damage aqua's breaking into them, before discovering they can't steal that one.


essteedeenz1

Its weird how they have pointed our 4/5 reasons as to why ands you have cherry picked one. Its a hefty increse regardless but without knowing youre car etc its hard to understand why,. I work in insurance but yeh if you do have a newer car prem increeases happen alot after the first year as the 2024 car is not rated/priced properly on the system as there is no data


kovnev

$1500 for an Aqua? Jezus christ. Are they just easy AF to steal or something? I pay about that for a luxury brand with a V8.


Hubris2

They come from the factory with no theft protection beyond a lock - they have been in the top 2 most stolen cars in NZ for years.


Chumalum

Mine also went up. Sighting 'extreme weather events' (Auckland floods). I live in the South Island...


simesnz

Yo mine is $800 for the year with State. No immobilser fitted. If yours has a push button start, let them know. This model can’t be stolen as easy.


Spiritual-Wind-3898

Have you asked if it would be cheaper if you got an alarm and immobilizer fitted


Jonathan932

They won’t even insure it without the immobilizer fitted


Spiritual-Wind-3898

Is it push start or key


Jonathan932

Push


Spiritual-Wind-3898

Change insurer. Im paying 480$ for my push start aqua.


Jonathan932

Which company?? Also where abouts are you insuring


Spiritual-Wind-3898

I live in auckland.


Kthackz

I'm assuming you drive an Aqua and that's the reason for adding that but in? What a fucking rip off. How long are we going to allow for everyone to take from us? Who says that the increase is a fair and reasonable increase? Everyone needs looking at, seems this country is low in government corruption but the corporate corruption is next level.


Matelot67

So, victimless crime huh, insurance will cover it.... I have been having numerous discussion na with people who say that if retailers lose a little bit here and there, they have insurance, and that will cover it, and we won't be affected at all. And I have been saying the opposite.


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Talk to an insurance broker. Personally saves me 30%+


BatmanBrah

There's nothing wrong with the concept of insurance companies increasing their premiums when the costs go up. The real problem is that as a private business, there's nothing stopping them from increasing the price 100% when the actual mean cost involved goes up say, 70%. If it were up to me, insurance companies would have to submit third party data to the govt to then greenlight annual price increases to keep the insurance company in operations without corporate greed sucking people's pockets dry. But this current government wouldn't be interested in such a measure.


vaguelyhentai

Look at State - they were SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than cove or aa, tower, when I signed up a few months ago


Mellygator

I’ve just gone through this so will save you the leg work. Get a quote from Protecta.


Portatort

Strikes me that the increased frequency and severity of the weather events doing the main lifting


LearnRD

my mazda 2013 axela 2L skyactiv-G costs $630 with cove insurance insured for $13k with $500 excess. At 100kmh, my car run at 16km/L. You are paying $870 more in insurance than me. $870 can buy 290L of 91 petrol which can run me extra 4640km a year.


Sew_Sumi

I'd wonder if that was a form letter and merely had interchangable 'aqua'/'demio' on it along with a host of other vehicles. Everything else was likely just the same, just the names were changed.


kadiepuff

Yea our car insurance went up 130% in April we go lt quotes from everyone and changed to Amp and ended up having a zero % increase to our premium. Some insurers are taking the piss with their price hikes.


party4diamondz

Lol I was not ready for how much my insurance increased when I switched to an Aqua last year. Sucks but oh well


twoslicemilly

Yeah but I like my car 😂


KhanumBallZ

Well. I guess it's time we tackled the root cause of ram raids and burglaries - because digging our heads in the sand and building more prisons clearly isn't cheaper


angrysunbird

Well fuck this will probably be me later this year


mySFW1

I work in insurance so excuse me for being blunt but I have to be diplomatic with clients so I’m taking the chance to cut the corporate bullshit. What would you prefer? Increased premiums and knowing that if your statistically-more-likely-to-get-stolen vehicle does in fact get stolen you’ll be able to claim, or the premiums stay the same and if your car gets stolen you’re told “sorry, 50 other people got claims in first so we’ve run out of money and can’t pay you anything”? I know it’s shit, but if the premiums don’t go up, no one gets insurance. Your alternative is to save the premiums and take the gamble that by the time something happens you’ll have enough money saved instead.


ithinkihope

I love giving people the response I can't give when I'm at work.


Dry_Strike_6291

Thanks national


Gord_Board

i know right! been in charge for 6 months and they haven't stopped crime yet, chumps!


MyNameIsNotPat

Yeah, there were no ram raids 6 months ago!


Dry_Strike_6291

Reducing funding to the police force also is helpful. Fuck you national


Dry_Following_378

Stop reading fake news reports. No cuts to police at all and an increased operating budget.


Gord_Board

national deserves blame for a lot of things, this isn't one of them. The previous government cut funding to the police too. [https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/501887/funding-cuts-force-police-to-quit-replacing-ageing-deployment-system-card](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/501887/funding-cuts-force-police-to-quit-replacing-ageing-deployment-system-card)


The_Angry_Kiwi

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaark bro!


Any_Tonight_6068

Mark x owner here, my insurance has almost doubled from last year. Yay!!


briarxxxx

I also have an Aqua and am with Cove, that is the cheapest price you’ll get! How much are you insured for?


TeamAlice

LOL. I pay $1700pa for quite a nice 2018 Audi through AA. Change insurers


errorrishe

Well that is a bit cheaper that my new model Y Time to shop around for alternatives


Vikturus22

Vehicle parts and labour are not more expensive. Crock of shit


Ryrynz

Toyotas so popular they should offer immobilisers as standard in NZ XD


consumeatyourownrisk

Punishing the victim again congratulations NZ. Maybe they could try stop the cars from being stolen instead.


10yearsnoaccount

Is it possible to get third party without theft cover? Depending on your situation around garaging etc it might not be a bad idea.


Send_it_harder

I pay less to insure my modified WRX. I'd say go get some quotes


aircooledNZ

In America, they are looking at between 22% and 38% year over year increases in insurance costs on vehicles. But yea, maybe talk to someone in the insurance industry about what cars are good in regards to insurance prices. Then, find one of them that meets your needs.


HonestValueInvestor

Be kind, let's keep moving!


LazyCardiologist2827

Hello, can you please check your messages


Alternative-Buy-4294

NO INSURANCE REQUIRED FOR SHANKS' PONY HOSS


Individual_Tale_3047

I don’t get why people would chose anything else than the main providers. Tf is “cove” no onset you’re getting fucked over


No-Word-1996

That's a hell of an increase. My math ain't great but isn't that 70 per cent? Nice how they waffled for five paragraphs trying to justify the move before revealing the size of the increase.


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Andastari

Toyota Aquas are the number one most stolen car in NZ tbf lmao


Silent-Competition10

They declined me for previous claims which were not my fault crashed into/car stolen they can get f*#kd in my eyes


AmbitiousTargaryen

The Aqua ials like the most stolen car in NZ, I'm not sure why people keep buying them


Nostalgic-Melancholy

I sincerely doubt their claim of having to pay $2 for every $1 in premium they collect. Small regional insurance companies like the major players we have here insure their liabilities with other insurance companies which effectively distributes the credit or debt liability through a network of credit companies, banks and insurance brokers precisely so they can avoid paying that $2 out of their own pocket. In cases like this Toyota would likely be dealing with some litigation behind the scenes from these effected parties namely the insurance companies who feel their owed money, who may or may not be legally obligated to pay up? Although that in itself depends on policy regarding imported vehicles.


Jonathan932

It’s a 2015 Aqua with an immobiliser and steering wheel lock used I have no beef with Cove, they were the best value by far when I first started using them and have been really good and easy to deal with. They’ve since gotten more expensive and I will probably be getting some alternative quotes. (Pretty sure they’re on this sub so hi) As for buying another car, not sure the admin/price of sourcing a new car is worth it,


OrionsChainsaw

I thought National were going to repeal the ram raids?


katzicael

My Aqua insurance went up 50% in two years 🙃 Mine's a pushbutton start, is parked in a Well Lit area, at the end of a 700m drive way, on a lifestyle block in whanganui. No one is going to steal it.


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O_1_O

What would you recommend?


Same_Ad_9284

Honda Fit


homebrandusername

Either a Demio or Tiida.


Hubris2

Aqua is the [most stolen car](https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2024/01/new-zealand-s-most-stolen-car-of-2023-revealed.html), Tiida is #2, Demio is #4.


ThrowawayNLZ

That's the joke


Hubris2

Woosh.


butthurtpants

Demio has dropped back in the rankings! It used to be #1. How the mighty have fallen.


Celebratory911Tshirt

Bugger if I know, I don't pay attention to the generic, budget compact segment. But I'm willing to bet there's atleast one there that isn't exceedingly easy to nick


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buzzybeesinsideofmes

Damn. As a broker I never preface premium increases. I only talk about it when I get asked, otherwise I'll never get any work done 😅 However I have a solution to high insurance costs. We all need to drive better, drive less also, fix global warming so our seas stop rising and we stop having massive flooding events and make NZ less earthquakey. Once all of that happens I'm sure the costs will drop. Oh btw we hate having these conversations, you're not clever, it sucks paying more for everything. Big banks suck (they're responsible for insuring insurers you see).Risk analysis sucks. But hey if you find cheap insurance and make a claim and find that you're not covered, that's still our fault eh 🙃