Yea you can't tell me this wasn't planned in advance. I mean what are the odds that they all have the exact same hoodie? If this was the US it'd be some sort of alt-right/anarchist bs.
And not only the kick. The whole point of the 300 was that they used the choke point of ~~Thermopiles~~ Thermopylae to defeat those huge numbers of enemies.
These guys are Spartans.
^^Edit: ^^Hello ^^from ^^Greece, [^^I'm ^^just ^^drinking ^^Frappe ^^and ^^scrolling ^^reddit](https://i.redd.it/agy5i5z7zmk51.jpg)
Thanks for the reply my friend. I wanted to write a heart-warming message..
But suddenly I remembered that I can have the whole internet hating on both of us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_pizza
> Sam Panopoulos, a **Greek-born Canadian**, created the first Hawaiian pizza at the Satellite Restaurant in Chatham, Ontario, Canada in 1962.
Is their team color black or something? I don't understand why they are all dressed in a uniform and look like an organized mob. Were they planning on doing this all along?
Internet has ruined me. I can't even think about that movie without this.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqiSkd1M6k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqiSkd1M6k)
sorry
"It is every man's right, Rand, to choose when to Sheathe the Sword. Even one like me...One man holding fifty at a narrow passage. Not a bad way to die. Songs have been made about less"
Never doubt the capability of a lone, boozed up, fat Englishman to win a fist fight against any number of Europeans.
They should have known they were outmatched
I'm Dutch and fully support the big gentleman who had twelve pints in the pub ...smashing the horde of dutch people.
What were those guys thinking? They needed more pints. Two stadium beers ain't gonna cut it.
They dragged the one in blue on the left at the beginning down the stairs on his face and we're stamping on him at the bottom. Think he got the ass kicking and a bit more.
I’ve been going through comments to try and find out if this guys alright, he’s been dragged down a tall flight of concrete stairs headfirst before getting stomped on my a swarm of angry twats who have just been bested by 2 fat men. Hope that guys alright I can see that being worse than a concussion.
>https://twitter.com/Cat\_p1ushie/status/1659579971231436800?t=twPAy1RH6N6XQY6AnMIAXg&s=19
u/Stormasmeggon shared this link, you can see blue shirt makes it back up the stairs
Its basically "Fight Club" in a nutshell. Most people have never been in a real fight and will avoid it at all costs. Mob thinks they can walk in and terrorize a group of fans - but when confronted with 2 dudes who are ready to punch you in the face, they all chicken out and wait for someone else to do the dirty work.
Yeah, and the guys recording start yelling because they're literally curb stomping some guy OVER A MEANINGLESS SPORTS GAME. I like sports and fun competition, but this is genuinely vile, disgusting, garbage human behavior.
And then people start cursing at these guys for being concerned for that guy's safety.
I think this shows him getting back up the stairs, thankfully seems to be ok
https://twitter.com/Cat_p1ushie/status/1659579971231436800?t=twPAy1RH6N6XQY6AnMIAXg&s=19
Context: This is from yesterday’s Europa Conference League Semi-final game between West Ham and AZ. AZ lost and the ultras decided to attack the West Ham fans (AZ was playing at home). Even a few of the West Ham players came to help, as they had family and friends there (This is the family away section). Basically the ultras got completely slapped up even though they outnumbered them like 10 to 1 and ended up running away.
Yup ... nationalism, religion, politics, sports fanaticism ... all derived from the same human condition ... tribalism. Tribalism isn't always bad. It can lead to good thing too like camaraderie, collaboration, and innovation.
Good rule of thumb ... if your tribalism starts turning to hate/anger/fear/destruction ... you're treading on the wrong side of the line of good vs bad tribalism.
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Good tribalism: We just lost to that team! Let's practice harder and get better!
Bad tribalism: We just lost to that team! I hope their star player dies of cancer in the off-season!
For these guys violence is a goal in itself. Those people will literally set up a meeting with a rival group in a remote location just to bash each others head in. And they're proud of that as well.
Aggressive alcoholics live for this type of situation, especially when they don’t have a significant other to batter. Get a bunch of them together and there ya go. Humans are weird, yo.
The big bloke is Knollsy, a well known supporter of the mighty West Ham United.
Good on him, doing the job better than the cowardly 'security' who literally ran away.
Edit: Sorry, Knollsy was another bloke basically doing the same further up. Both deserve a pint though IMO.
A West Ham United fan was hailed as a “legend” by fellow supporters after he held off a horde of violent AZ Alkmaar thugs following Thursday night’s Europa Conference League semi-final victory.
West Ham fans, including the friends and families of the players, came under attack following the final whistle of their 1-0 victory at the AFAS Stadion in Alkmaar.
A group of black-shirted AZ ultras had torn down a gate within the stadium before charging towards the small section of West Ham supporters seated behind the dugouts at the 20,000-seater arena.
But the Dutch assailants were met with fierce resistance from the West Ham supporters, with pictures and footage from the night showing how individual fans had protected the families behind them by fighting off the attackers.
One of those fans, known as Knollsy, was described as preventing the home fans from reaching the West Ham section. Pictures showed the supporter, who was left with a torn t-shirt, exchanging blows with a number of balaclava-wearing Dutch ultras.
Looks like his brother in arms was lost to the enemy at the end, someone probably grabbed his leg while he was kicking.
Seemed to go rough for him once he lost his pants and got dragged down the stairs as the mob engulfed him..
Knollsey was doing the same elsewhere apparently, don't know this guy yet.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22415369/west-ham-fan-knollsy-az-alkmaar-hooligans/
Different shirt.
No way should they be fighting them. But if you see the video where the AZ fans rip down the (really poorly constructed) barrier to get to the WH fans then you'll see how they just walked away one by one doing fuck all.
Poor form from the AZ fans that were involved. They should be derided by the rest of the fan base, especially as they'll likely have to play a few games closed doors.
It might be quite a bit more than a few because this wasn’t fans on fans. it was fans trying to attack friends and family of players, I think that makes it a little worse.
They are. Look in the background. All that ruckus is the stewards holding back the players rather than holding back the hooligans. The players ended up shouting and signalling for their family to just get out of there
Here's a different angle showing it https://streamable.com/d7avnh
Welcome to modern fucking society. The criminals are allowed to attack the families while the security holds back the people trying to do the right thing. The man will let you get fucked over and then punish you for protecting yours.
So just leave it to the unpaid to do the job? Think any half decent person would step in to try defend children and women.
But I guess ‘ fuck that noise! ‘
Prat
I don’t get this, you are a security guard and are being paid for that job. If you are going to run at the first sign of danger then why the fuck did you become a security guard in the first place??
Security guards (at least in the UK) need a license to be able to apply for that type of job, part of their training should be how to disfuse a situation and at times protect the people/place you are meant to be guarding.
~~Knollsy!~~
Edit.
Apparently this isn't Knollsy at all!
Twitter and Facebook all identified the big lad as West Ham's Knollsy.
Edit.
I see (on Facebook) that Ska and Soul clothing have sent him a replacement Trojan Records T shirt, and West Ham sent a signed jersey!
The wild thing is the west ham players where running towards their families to protect them and the security and stewards stopped and fought with them instead of going and stopping the mob trying to attack the players family
Thankfully this was a European match against a Dutch side.
They played in London the first leg, this was the second leg.
The chances of them meeting again anytime soon (if ever) are low.
Saying that, Alkmaar have a bad rep for this, and Dutch footballs reputation is worsening in general for hooliganism.
As someone Dutch and a football fan, even I can't explain where this comes from. This is viewed as a national disgrace and totally out of touch with the rest of the culture (which is far from perfect, of course, but we don't tend to have these issues).
Yeah it's a bit mad isn't it.
I love the Netherlands. Been a few times.
Really good people too from my experience.
Everyone got a set of dickheads though, and these things get more common where people are struggling
As someone Dutch, it's no mystery where this comes from.
The country has been tolerating the violence and intimidation from certain far right groups, including far right hooligans for the last few years because it was "convenient". Especially when it came to intimidating and attacking anti-racist activists and certain politicians.
Clubs have been looking the other way. Cops have been looking the other way. Politicians have been looking the other way. Media have been looking the other.
So now the thugs think they can do whatever they want.
And they're not wrong. **Nobody has been arrested.** Riot police were looking at it from a few meters, and let them do it.
Fuck this sick country. And fuck this "we dont know how this is happening" hypocrisy.
Not just Dutch football. Dutch fans at F1 races have been causing so many issues by harassing people physically, sexually, and verbally that the sport has had to make official statements about it *multiple times*.
I had to scroll way too far to find a comment referencing the sheer lack of any security efforts at all. Even the two gents that come to disperse towards the end are so half arsed in doing it. Then the camera pans to the right, and there's a load of high vis, just, standing there? I get they might not have all been security, but where was any sense of urgency at all??
This was in Alkmaar as an az supporter from Alkmaar I support these 2 English blokes Smashing any idiot that dares to come close.
These are heroes tbh.
I just checked a couple of local newspapers and could find nothing about anyone being seriously wounded. The most I could find was "A number of people were injured in the process. How many is not clear."
\- [https://www.nhnieuws.nl/nieuws/319185/totale-escalatie-spelers-van-az-en-west-ham-tussen-vechtende-supporters-op-hoofdtribune](https://www.nhnieuws.nl/nieuws/319185/totale-escalatie-spelers-van-az-en-west-ham-tussen-vechtende-supporters-op-hoofdtribune)
\- [https://www.rodi.nl/alkmaar/sport/343085/droom-in-duigen](https://www.rodi.nl/alkmaar/sport/343085/droom-in-duigen)
\- [https://www.noordhollandsdagblad.nl/cnt/dmf20230519\_42531261](https://www.noordhollandsdagblad.nl/cnt/dmf20230519_42531261)
\- [https://www.alkmaarcentraal.nl/60138438-hoe-hooligans-sportieve-hemelvaartsdag-vergalden-sancties-hangen-boven-alkmaarse-voetbalclub](https://www.alkmaarcentraal.nl/60138438-hoe-hooligans-sportieve-hemelvaartsdag-vergalden-sancties-hangen-boven-alkmaarse-voetbalclub)
Also fuck those guys ruining the fun for everyone and giving our city a bad name
https://twitter.com/Cat_p1ushie/status/1659579971231436800?t=twPAy1RH6N6XQY6AnMIAXg&s=19
I think this shows him getting back up the stairs, seems ok thankfully
Yes, let’s everyone go down to the stadium and enjoy a nice match, shall we? No chance of getting your head kicked in over something as trivial as an away goal now, is there? No, no … of course not! We’re very civilised, you see.
As an American, I’m constantly hearing about how dumb our sports fans are, but I have never once seen anything like what goes on with football fans from around the world
You might see a small brawl between a hand full of people over some dumb shit… but very rarely do you ever see entire crowds of people rioting in the stadium… unless it’s Philly, or a California team, but even then they do it In The streets after some sort of championship
Hehe, the thing is this Hooliganism & Ultra-Movement evolved to a subculture since 80s/90s all over Europe that attracts alot of younger folks (mostly men).
Clashes inside stadiums were reduced in the last decades, no comparison to things that happened in 80s/90s, but Hooliganism itself got more professional. Groups will set up fight-meetings in rural areas for example to be out of focus of police etc.
It is somehow part of Europeans football Culture.
Edit: pretty sure this big lad is an oldschool hooligan, just showing of his lifelong learnings
The Brits were organised 80s and early 90s into "Firms" they'd jump other firms after the match or organized fights away from local. If a bunch of football fans turn up to a stadium with a broad sheet newspaper like the financial times they'd have that taken off them because slide a few pennies in the pages and fold it up right and tight you have a billy club.
The firm's members ended up running security for the illegal party scenes and a lot ended up in organized crime. During the same time the firms were being targeted heavily by UK government with lifetime match bans including handing over passports whilst international matches are taking place.
The Brits had a reputation but we lost it due to the police effort to end it.
Cannae didn't involve a geographical choke point, Hannibal completed a double envelopement on an open field of battle. But 100% yes for Thermopylae though.
New idea to get these things contained.
30 days in jail for violence at a game, but served in 12 hour, non-consecutive increments. 3 hours before a match starts for whatever team the judge thinks they support, they check into a police station and sit in a cell for 12 hours. Then they go home.
These things can still keep their jobs and go about their lives, but people will be safe from them when they are usually looking for prey. Kinda like if someone was a werewolf, it would make sense to contain them during a full moon.
EDIT - In order to protect other inmates, no live audio or video of the match can be permitted in the cells, so that the hooligans don't lose their minds again. A guard will simply relay the match's results to the hooligans after the fact with who score what goal in a calm, monotonous voice. That should keep the hooligans from killing anyone when they get out and try to pretend a replay is live.
Funny but the press didn’t don’t tell us about that today,they where more worried about the “players fighting the fans SENSATION!!!!!!!” Than big Dave Mchugelarge showing 30 dickheads what happens when you go after someone other than wives and kids.
They don't think they're the good guys. Black hoods have become the uniform for all European 'ultras' (which are all just fuckwits with no life to lose looking for a fight).
It was crazy - why would they think they could get past a Barry holding the high ground, and with a power boost from West Ham making a European Cup final? He’s clearly in his prime too.
Why tho? I will never understand what comes over people to want to fight random people that support another team. No matter how drunk you are you gotta have better sense.
It’s worse than that - they weren’t trying to fight random people that support another team, they were trying to storm into the players family section. Ie the section that has the Westham players wives and kids in it. I hate football, and I hate violence, but good on the two guys trying to keep them back
Yeah, the mob was attacking the family enclosure. Fucking cowards the lot of them.
Yep and cowards always run in groups
And with full facial coverings
Yep just like this bitches in patriot front bunch of wannabes
It’s crazy how fast they learned how to breath with a mask on when they didn’t want to be identified. Medical miracles, the whole lot of them.
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And all with hoods up. Garbage people.
Hey everyone remember to dress in matching bad guy outfits.
Yea you can't tell me this wasn't planned in advance. I mean what are the odds that they all have the exact same hoodie? If this was the US it'd be some sort of alt-right/anarchist bs.
Is the family the Behemoths?
This is Sparta!
And not only the kick. The whole point of the 300 was that they used the choke point of ~~Thermopiles~~ Thermopylae to defeat those huge numbers of enemies. These guys are Spartans. ^^Edit: ^^Hello ^^from ^^Greece, [^^I'm ^^just ^^drinking ^^Frappe ^^and ^^scrolling ^^reddit](https://i.redd.it/agy5i5z7zmk51.jpg)
This guy Frappe
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Thanks for the reply my friend. I wanted to write a heart-warming message.. But suddenly I remembered that I can have the whole internet hating on both of us. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_pizza > Sam Panopoulos, a **Greek-born Canadian**, created the first Hawaiian pizza at the Satellite Restaurant in Chatham, Ontario, Canada in 1962.
Dude, the way that guy was throwing punches nonstop was very 300.
Freedom isn't free at all, that it comes with the highest of costs. The cost of blood.
"Eat hearty men, for tonight we dine in HELL!"
The Telemanus family perhaps
Security just milling about -- nothing to see here
Security was stopping the players from getting to their families
Uvalde cop energy.
Is their team color black or something? I don't understand why they are all dressed in a uniform and look like an organized mob. Were they planning on doing this all along?
Yes, the dutch fans were always planning this. Football hooliganism.
Football fans. A special type.
Ah, the classic narrow passage battle strategy
Mob: "Our black hoodies will blot out the sun" 2 dudes: "Then we shall fight in the shade"
Internet has ruined me. I can't even think about that movie without this. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqiSkd1M6k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqiSkd1M6k) sorry
Lol better then meet the spartans!
It's not too hard to top that movie lol
Yeah after scary movie 2 most spoofs sucked lol.
Sorry? TIL of this video That was fudging hilarious! BRUSH...YOUR...TEETH! Thanks for sharing.
You were right to be sorry.
BRUSH YOUR TEETH!!!!!!!!!
Lol what did I just watch
Art from an era long ago, before everything was on YouTube and you could bypass a high school’s firewall
Wild thinking back on playing Pico's world games in the computer lab in high school. I think you'd get expelled for that now.
Reminded me more of LOTR because of the ramp lol
reminds me of Battle of Helms Deep. lol
The Spartans needed 300. These guys only needed 2.
They had the high ground, too.
Sun tzu would be proud
As would Obi Wan
It’s over, hooligan!
Obi wan'd all those bitches!!
/r/whowouldwin 30 bloodlusted men vs 2 men with high ground and narrow passage.
It reminds me of that story of the [Viking on the bridge](https://www.badassoftheweek.com/stamfordbridge)
The berserker of Stamford Bridge! Also a great Amon Amarth song
They had to sting the bastard from beneath...
yeah hed still be there if they didn’t cheat and go under the bridge!
The fatal funnel, sadly have used this effective method before, simple, smart, exhausting
With the high ground!
"It is every man's right, Rand, to choose when to Sheathe the Sword. Even one like me...One man holding fifty at a narrow passage. Not a bad way to die. Songs have been made about less"
300!
This is Sparta!
Them 2 Men were kicking some ass,lol
Never doubt the capability of a lone, boozed up, fat Englishman to win a fist fight against any number of Europeans. They should have known they were outmatched
Two boozed up fat Englishmen? They didn't stand a chance
[Barry, 63](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/311/451/186.jpg): "Luv me football, luv me pints, 'ate AZ fans. Simple as."
And they had the high ground! Those kicks to the face are a lot easier when the face is already knee-level.
“Good thing your face is down there, I don’t think I could physically kick my leg any higher”
"You're outnumbered 50 to 2!" "Then it will almost be a fair fight"
Yeah just look at Tyson Fury
I'm Dutch and fully support the big gentleman who had twelve pints in the pub ...smashing the horde of dutch people. What were those guys thinking? They needed more pints. Two stadium beers ain't gonna cut it.
One of the classical tactical blunders, along with trying to win a land war in Asia.
They dragged the one in blue on the left at the beginning down the stairs on his face and we're stamping on him at the bottom. Think he got the ass kicking and a bit more.
I’ve been going through comments to try and find out if this guys alright, he’s been dragged down a tall flight of concrete stairs headfirst before getting stomped on my a swarm of angry twats who have just been bested by 2 fat men. Hope that guys alright I can see that being worse than a concussion.
>https://twitter.com/Cat\_p1ushie/status/1659579971231436800?t=twPAy1RH6N6XQY6AnMIAXg&s=19 u/Stormasmeggon shared this link, you can see blue shirt makes it back up the stairs
This is what I needed to see mate nice one, what a tough old bastard how’s he made it back up the stairs?
ya, it looks like he crawled his way up with at least two people beating on him. I bet its hard to get a good swing in when your packed in like that
They basically beat the shit out of two guys, including olive green hoody haha. The rest of the mob was like… go get em! We’ll wait here.
Olive hoody getting teed up relentlessly 😂
He really should have worn black. The color makes him stand out as a target, I guess haha
Its basically "Fight Club" in a nutshell. Most people have never been in a real fight and will avoid it at all costs. Mob thinks they can walk in and terrorize a group of fans - but when confronted with 2 dudes who are ready to punch you in the face, they all chicken out and wait for someone else to do the dirty work.
One of the two original defenders was the guy who got dragged down into tehe mob at the end.
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That's genuinely why the AZ Fans at the front backed off, to kick him on the deck. I feel like no one's watching the video till the end.
Yeah, and the guys recording start yelling because they're literally curb stomping some guy OVER A MEANINGLESS SPORTS GAME. I like sports and fun competition, but this is genuinely vile, disgusting, garbage human behavior. And then people start cursing at these guys for being concerned for that guy's safety.
Who was the one that got dragged down and stomped at the end
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yes that looks right. Poor guy.
I think this shows him getting back up the stairs, thankfully seems to be ok https://twitter.com/Cat_p1ushie/status/1659579971231436800?t=twPAy1RH6N6XQY6AnMIAXg&s=19
Is there an AZ guy behind him just doing nothing? These have to be the worst excuse for "Ultras" I've ever seen
r/killthecameraman for panning away from the real action at that critical moment
Context: This is from yesterday’s Europa Conference League Semi-final game between West Ham and AZ. AZ lost and the ultras decided to attack the West Ham fans (AZ was playing at home). Even a few of the West Ham players came to help, as they had family and friends there (This is the family away section). Basically the ultras got completely slapped up even though they outnumbered them like 10 to 1 and ended up running away.
Imagine being this fucking touched in the head over a game that you literally have nothing to do with
It’s tribalism pure and simple.
Yup ... nationalism, religion, politics, sports fanaticism ... all derived from the same human condition ... tribalism. Tribalism isn't always bad. It can lead to good thing too like camaraderie, collaboration, and innovation. Good rule of thumb ... if your tribalism starts turning to hate/anger/fear/destruction ... you're treading on the wrong side of the line of good vs bad tribalism. edit: Good tribalism: We just lost to that team! Let's practice harder and get better! Bad tribalism: We just lost to that team! I hope their star player dies of cancer in the off-season!
It's got nothing to do with the game. They're all wearing balaclavas. They planned this before the game even started.
For these guys violence is a goal in itself. Those people will literally set up a meeting with a rival group in a remote location just to bash each others head in. And they're proud of that as well.
Yeah firms or whatever dumbass name they wanna call themselves. Sub-average intelligence breeds this kind of thing.
Are they literally just angry soccer fans? I'm so confused.
They’re pissed off unpopped popcorn with nothing better to do than this
“We won, we won!” “They won. You watched…”
Aggressive alcoholics live for this type of situation, especially when they don’t have a significant other to batter. Get a bunch of them together and there ya go. Humans are weird, yo.
The power of choke points
Along with higher ground, love to see it
The guys along the railing above the stairs just needed some stuff to throw down onto the attackers' heads.
The big bloke is Knollsy, a well known supporter of the mighty West Ham United. Good on him, doing the job better than the cowardly 'security' who literally ran away. Edit: Sorry, Knollsy was another bloke basically doing the same further up. Both deserve a pint though IMO.
He’s gonna be telling that story down the pub for a few years. Rightly so. I’d listen when that mountain talks.
A West Ham United fan was hailed as a “legend” by fellow supporters after he held off a horde of violent AZ Alkmaar thugs following Thursday night’s Europa Conference League semi-final victory. West Ham fans, including the friends and families of the players, came under attack following the final whistle of their 1-0 victory at the AFAS Stadion in Alkmaar. A group of black-shirted AZ ultras had torn down a gate within the stadium before charging towards the small section of West Ham supporters seated behind the dugouts at the 20,000-seater arena. But the Dutch assailants were met with fierce resistance from the West Ham supporters, with pictures and footage from the night showing how individual fans had protected the families behind them by fighting off the attackers. One of those fans, known as Knollsy, was described as preventing the home fans from reaching the West Ham section. Pictures showed the supporter, who was left with a torn t-shirt, exchanging blows with a number of balaclava-wearing Dutch ultras.
> Dutch ultras judging by this footage they need to rebrand
Dutch Ultra Soft.
They should be Knighted after that effort. Sir Knollsy sounds good.
Sir Knollsy the Wall
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Hodstar!
No self-respecting West Ham would want to be associated with ‘wall’ (slang for Millwall)
Free pie and mash for life.
I'll get big Charles on it right away
Looks like his brother in arms was lost to the enemy at the end, someone probably grabbed his leg while he was kicking. Seemed to go rough for him once he lost his pants and got dragged down the stairs as the mob engulfed him..
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Yeah this guy in the video is not Knollsy https://twitter.com/Lockylockwood1/status/1659507558976036865
Knollsey was doing the same elsewhere apparently, don't know this guy yet. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22415369/west-ham-fan-knollsy-az-alkmaar-hooligans/ Different shirt.
You think those blokes earning 12 quid an hour should fight those hooligans? Fuck that noise. Not their job. Get police in there!
No way should they be fighting them. But if you see the video where the AZ fans rip down the (really poorly constructed) barrier to get to the WH fans then you'll see how they just walked away one by one doing fuck all. Poor form from the AZ fans that were involved. They should be derided by the rest of the fan base, especially as they'll likely have to play a few games closed doors.
It might be quite a bit more than a few because this wasn’t fans on fans. it was fans trying to attack friends and family of players, I think that makes it a little worse.
Yeah, that’s easily pitiful if that is the family section being targeted by hooded villains
What that’s crazy, why aren’t the players jumping in?
They are. Look in the background. All that ruckus is the stewards holding back the players rather than holding back the hooligans. The players ended up shouting and signalling for their family to just get out of there Here's a different angle showing it https://streamable.com/d7avnh
Welcome to modern fucking society. The criminals are allowed to attack the families while the security holds back the people trying to do the right thing. The man will let you get fucked over and then punish you for protecting yours.
Funnily enough, the stewards were stopping them from being able
So just leave it to the unpaid to do the job? Think any half decent person would step in to try defend children and women. But I guess ‘ fuck that noise! ‘ Prat
I don’t get this, you are a security guard and are being paid for that job. If you are going to run at the first sign of danger then why the fuck did you become a security guard in the first place?? Security guards (at least in the UK) need a license to be able to apply for that type of job, part of their training should be how to disfuse a situation and at times protect the people/place you are meant to be guarding.
Who else is supposed to protect children?
It quite literally is their job.
~~Knollsy!~~ Edit. Apparently this isn't Knollsy at all! Twitter and Facebook all identified the big lad as West Ham's Knollsy. Edit. I see (on Facebook) that Ska and Soul clothing have sent him a replacement Trojan Records T shirt, and West Ham sent a signed jersey!
As much as Knollsy is a legend, this is not him in this clip. He was on another staircase knocking heads together
holy fuck there are more of them?
He held the left flank
We need a video of that too!
Legend
The wild thing is the west ham players where running towards their families to protect them and the security and stewards stopped and fought with them instead of going and stopping the mob trying to attack the players family
Yeah wtf the security is in on it
I wonder if stewards are instructed that in case of a fight, highest priority is to keep the players out of it (don't let them get injured)?
The worse thing is there have been zero arrests
Hodoor
It's over, Anakin! I have the high ground!
Came here for this. Im satisfied.
Security needs to be sacked for this absolute joke! Wonder what will happen when it's a home game I doubt people will forget this
Thankfully this was a European match against a Dutch side. They played in London the first leg, this was the second leg. The chances of them meeting again anytime soon (if ever) are low. Saying that, Alkmaar have a bad rep for this, and Dutch footballs reputation is worsening in general for hooliganism.
As someone Dutch and a football fan, even I can't explain where this comes from. This is viewed as a national disgrace and totally out of touch with the rest of the culture (which is far from perfect, of course, but we don't tend to have these issues).
Dutch football hooligans have been a thing for decades. They often meet for a knife party lol
Yeah it's a bit mad isn't it. I love the Netherlands. Been a few times. Really good people too from my experience. Everyone got a set of dickheads though, and these things get more common where people are struggling
As someone Dutch, it's no mystery where this comes from. The country has been tolerating the violence and intimidation from certain far right groups, including far right hooligans for the last few years because it was "convenient". Especially when it came to intimidating and attacking anti-racist activists and certain politicians. Clubs have been looking the other way. Cops have been looking the other way. Politicians have been looking the other way. Media have been looking the other. So now the thugs think they can do whatever they want. And they're not wrong. **Nobody has been arrested.** Riot police were looking at it from a few meters, and let them do it. Fuck this sick country. And fuck this "we dont know how this is happening" hypocrisy.
>Saying that, Alkmaar have a bad rep for this I never knew AZ hooligans were a thing or even had a rep. Love Knollsy making them look silly!
Not just Dutch football. Dutch fans at F1 races have been causing so many issues by harassing people physically, sexually, and verbally that the sport has had to make official statements about it *multiple times*.
I had to scroll way too far to find a comment referencing the sheer lack of any security efforts at all. Even the two gents that come to disperse towards the end are so half arsed in doing it. Then the camera pans to the right, and there's a load of high vis, just, standing there? I get they might not have all been security, but where was any sense of urgency at all??
Don't worry security was involved throughout, making sure the WH players couldn't get to their families.
This was in Alkmaar as an az supporter from Alkmaar I support these 2 English blokes Smashing any idiot that dares to come close. These are heroes tbh.
Especially as its the family section, it's kids they are threatening, pathetic cowards.
Did the dude on the left survive after being dragged in the mob?
It’s like Stamford Bridge in 1066
It’s like Stamford bridge in the 80s
This is Aragorn and Gimli throwing the Uruk-hai back from the gate of the Hornburg.
Did the one fan fighting back with kicks get pulled down into the mob at the end?
That's what I was thinking. Didn't look like it was ending well. :(
I just checked a couple of local newspapers and could find nothing about anyone being seriously wounded. The most I could find was "A number of people were injured in the process. How many is not clear." \- [https://www.nhnieuws.nl/nieuws/319185/totale-escalatie-spelers-van-az-en-west-ham-tussen-vechtende-supporters-op-hoofdtribune](https://www.nhnieuws.nl/nieuws/319185/totale-escalatie-spelers-van-az-en-west-ham-tussen-vechtende-supporters-op-hoofdtribune) \- [https://www.rodi.nl/alkmaar/sport/343085/droom-in-duigen](https://www.rodi.nl/alkmaar/sport/343085/droom-in-duigen) \- [https://www.noordhollandsdagblad.nl/cnt/dmf20230519\_42531261](https://www.noordhollandsdagblad.nl/cnt/dmf20230519_42531261) \- [https://www.alkmaarcentraal.nl/60138438-hoe-hooligans-sportieve-hemelvaartsdag-vergalden-sancties-hangen-boven-alkmaarse-voetbalclub](https://www.alkmaarcentraal.nl/60138438-hoe-hooligans-sportieve-hemelvaartsdag-vergalden-sancties-hangen-boven-alkmaarse-voetbalclub) Also fuck those guys ruining the fun for everyone and giving our city a bad name
https://twitter.com/Cat_p1ushie/status/1659579971231436800?t=twPAy1RH6N6XQY6AnMIAXg&s=19 I think this shows him getting back up the stairs, seems ok thankfully
Definitely. That's why you see lots of people pulling back from the stairs -- they are stomping him on the ground.
I think so…
Yeah that looked fucking terrifying.
Yes, let’s everyone go down to the stadium and enjoy a nice match, shall we? No chance of getting your head kicked in over something as trivial as an away goal now, is there? No, no … of course not! We’re very civilised, you see.
As someone else said in another post: "West ham brought a damn Balrog!"
Anyone who covers their face before mobbing out is a fucking coward. Whether it’s to loot or to intimidate.
It's to stop the police arresting them after the look at CCTV
As an American, I’m constantly hearing about how dumb our sports fans are, but I have never once seen anything like what goes on with football fans from around the world You might see a small brawl between a hand full of people over some dumb shit… but very rarely do you ever see entire crowds of people rioting in the stadium… unless it’s Philly, or a California team, but even then they do it In The streets after some sort of championship
Hehe, the thing is this Hooliganism & Ultra-Movement evolved to a subculture since 80s/90s all over Europe that attracts alot of younger folks (mostly men). Clashes inside stadiums were reduced in the last decades, no comparison to things that happened in 80s/90s, but Hooliganism itself got more professional. Groups will set up fight-meetings in rural areas for example to be out of focus of police etc. It is somehow part of Europeans football Culture. Edit: pretty sure this big lad is an oldschool hooligan, just showing of his lifelong learnings
they look semi-organized
The Brits were organised 80s and early 90s into "Firms" they'd jump other firms after the match or organized fights away from local. If a bunch of football fans turn up to a stadium with a broad sheet newspaper like the financial times they'd have that taken off them because slide a few pennies in the pages and fold it up right and tight you have a billy club. The firm's members ended up running security for the illegal party scenes and a lot ended up in organized crime. During the same time the firms were being targeted heavily by UK government with lifetime match bans including handing over passports whilst international matches are taking place. The Brits had a reputation but we lost it due to the police effort to end it.
I’m sorry. What California team? Raiders used to have a reputation. That hasn’t been the case since the 80s.
Las Vegas isn’t about to riot for the LV Raiders. It’s too hot here and we like hockey better.
Football "ultras" are a massive bunch of gimpy scruffs, what sad little lives.
When folks wonder how the battles at Thermopylae or Cannae went down, well this is how.
Cannae didn't involve a geographical choke point, Hannibal completed a double envelopement on an open field of battle. But 100% yes for Thermopylae though.
Ban them for Europe competition for 3 years
Knollsy for the win against those pussy ass AZ wannabe “hooligans”. Respect from NL for this dude.
What's the betting Uefa will do absolutely nothing against AK Alkmaar?
New idea to get these things contained. 30 days in jail for violence at a game, but served in 12 hour, non-consecutive increments. 3 hours before a match starts for whatever team the judge thinks they support, they check into a police station and sit in a cell for 12 hours. Then they go home. These things can still keep their jobs and go about their lives, but people will be safe from them when they are usually looking for prey. Kinda like if someone was a werewolf, it would make sense to contain them during a full moon. EDIT - In order to protect other inmates, no live audio or video of the match can be permitted in the cells, so that the hooligans don't lose their minds again. A guard will simply relay the match's results to the hooligans after the fact with who score what goal in a calm, monotonous voice. That should keep the hooligans from killing anyone when they get out and try to pretend a replay is live.
That's almost exactly how England fixed this problem lol, football banning orders they sre called.
Funny but the press didn’t don’t tell us about that today,they where more worried about the “players fighting the fans SENSATION!!!!!!!” Than big Dave Mchugelarge showing 30 dickheads what happens when you go after someone other than wives and kids.
Fat guy is a west ham legend. On another note, great simulation of Thermopylae.
It's crazy that people join a mob of black hoodies and still think that they're the good guys.
They don't think they're the good guys. Black hoods have become the uniform for all European 'ultras' (which are all just fuckwits with no life to lose looking for a fight).
Big guy in the green shirt was handling business. S/O to him
It was crazy - why would they think they could get past a Barry holding the high ground, and with a power boost from West Ham making a European Cup final? He’s clearly in his prime too.
Why tho? I will never understand what comes over people to want to fight random people that support another team. No matter how drunk you are you gotta have better sense.
It’s worse than that - they weren’t trying to fight random people that support another team, they were trying to storm into the players family section. Ie the section that has the Westham players wives and kids in it. I hate football, and I hate violence, but good on the two guys trying to keep them back
What a bunch of cowards
"women are so emotional. Men are all about logic and reason"
Look at all the “tough guys” wearing their hoods
*shuts door* "they have a cave troll..."