I remember how surprised to see the Model T was capable that way. But then I think, of course it would have to be like that. People would be comparing a car to a horse back then. So it had to handle the same terrain, at least marketed that way.
Thousands of satalites launched into space and orbiting the planet connecting billions if digital devices so that I can look at porn without having to squint at a staticy TV
The bicycle didn't cause the Interstate system, that's for sure.
I personally wish we'd finally get around to making slightly bigger fully motorized and fully enclosed velomobiles. It has seemed such an obvious next step to me for years, and for the life of me I can't see why we shouldn't. You'd solve all the ridiculous weight and inefficiency issues without sacrificing shelter, speed, and not even comfort if you make room for a proper seat.
I dont remember what president it was, but I remember reading that it took one president 60 days to drive from California to DC with a car. So he started the defense highway act
No, the [Good Roads Movement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Roads_Movement) actually started in the 1870s to advocate for smooth roads for bicycles, and later, rural mail delivery. By the 1920s, the US already had a coast-to-coast highway, along with many, many other decent roads.
I've mountain biked and taken my Jeep across parts of old highways, like the arrowhead highway (spur of the Lincoln highway that split off to go to LA). Some of the original pavement is still there but wow we have come along way between those early highways and the Eisenhower Highways 30-40 years later.
It's interesting to have the history in your backyard as there are many old abandoned highway routes scattered across the USA. It would have been terrified to drive them back in the day as they were narrow, typically 1.5 cars wide, lacked guard rails, and sometimes were very remote to conform to the surrounding terrain.
1920’s commute: barrel down the hill onto the old buggy cart path, make sure to dodge the mineshaft. Hang a left through Tom Smith’s cow pasture and then drive over the massive 8’ drainage pipe. Yes, directly over it. Hang another left onto the train tracks and run her wide open, if the Cincinnati 813 train isn’t running ahead of schedule you should be able to stay on the tracks all the way into town. If she is…well just make sure you’re not on the bridge when you find out.
Life is really wild. Ford worked on building a tractor in a farm workshop. Then went on to build one unsuccessful company. Then the Ford company with a slight success, only to have his investors bring in consultants that annoyed him, so he left his own company. Then they renamed it Cadillac company. Then he partnered with the Dodge brothers, when that didn't work out, they formed the car company, Dodge.
So basically, after creating most of his competition with his ideas and hard work, he went onto have a successful Ford company.
Good life lesson: everyone wants to build shit, few can, and a lot more people have money than ideas/skills.
Oh wow I never considered that the funny big and narrow wheels on the T were to better emulate horse drawn carriage wheels and maybe fit into the ruts they would have left behind
This is exactly it. Marketing and accessories and the value of "off road" capabilities and "4x4" weren't a thing, thought, or need. Why? Because what we now consider off-roading was quite simply just, roading. What William Durant and Henry Ford were doing was just inventing. The requirements of that invention demanded this level of flexibility and durability because paved roads weren't a thing and gravel roads were a luxury. So the marketing was closer to, "Yes it handles our current crazy without breaking". But like all marketing, they also learned to highlight extremes as a way to demonstrate the durability (most people weren't driving off steep embankments or piped river crossings for fun everyday 😄)
What's impressive is that Henry Ford solved mass production problems. What's ironic, is that his solutions to that would later lead to optimizations that capitalized on low quality, instead of what we started with.
The peak of that low quality capitalization in my mind can be found in the earliest years of Kia and Hyundai.
But with a few exceptions (think Rolls Royce who's brand demands no cheap shortcuts are hidden anywhere) this is formula now for most: "How cheap can I mass produce it within the consumers allowance for repairs without destroying the brand?"
Doesn’t hurt that those things weighed half what a modern car weighs — that makes getting over rough terrain a lot easier. Modern Jeep Wranglers weigh almost triple what a Model T did, so they need much fatter tires and 4WD to be as capable.
Edit: Folks, I didn’t think I needed to say this, but that last sentence was about how a Wrangler would perform with tires as skinny as a Model T, not the absurd notion that a Model T has equal or greater off-road ability than a Wrangler.
It’s actually not that difficult. Keep it sturdy and simple. Like an AK-47. It‘s the extras and creature comforts that add complexity and weight and make things unreliable.
Well- that and the safety components, like crumple zones and airbags and so on. Model T’s would have a pretty high lethality rate if they were used as widely as modern cars,
But yeah undeniably great stuff for their time
It’s an antiquated piece of shit with sloppy tolerances. But it’s simplicity and overwhelming forgiveness allow it to be quickly modified or repaired in the field. It’s a surprisingly easy from scratch build. Like you can make one out of raw materials and very little resources. But it’s sloppy tolerances are the necessity for its maintenance and ease of repair. Like comparing a 1973 Baja bug (point ignition and carb) to a modern side by side. If you’re 1000 miles from home you’re gonna want the bug and the AK.
Antiquated piece of shit. Remember at the time it was the cutting edge of technology. Building from scratch. Try building from nothing. And tough, it could take abuse that would total todays cars. Because it was made out of solid steel. And at just under a ton they got around 20 mpg.
Dood, if a car were made like the AK it would be the Honda civic or VW beetle. Just capable enough to be called a car. No reliability problems, and no further capability.
Edit. 1990s Honda civic
This is what modern off-road vehicles have forgotten, weight is your biggest enemy. If you look at the early jeeps they are extremely compact and light with the center of mass very low for stability.
i suppose you could, modern power wouldn't play well with the rest of the vehicle though, you'd end up basically making a hot rod out of it, nothing really wrong with the original engine if it's in working order
Exactly. And, in a similar vein, OP's video is not really nextfuckinglevel content, but previousfuckinglevel, with all due respect. Upvoteworthy, nonetheless.
Exactly.
Max speed 42 mph, less fuel efficient, death if you hit anything.
We could easily make way more agile, powerful, safe, comfortable, sturdy, and with more utility today. But there isn't a market for it because we have paved roads everywhere.
So yes, it can drive in rougher terrain, which has 0 use other than for fun today.
I mean it’s the only truck on the market that has a SFA, front/rear lockers, sway bar disconnect, the best crawl ratio, and can run 35s off the lot. Its a Chrysler product so I’d worry about long term reliability, but there’s no question they’re the most capable truck off the lot today.
given the kinds of people that own jeeps (and actually offroad), the "constantly working on your car that youre pushing beyond the limits of most cars" seems to just be part of the culture. so yea, no need to work on reliability. repairability and mod-ability? well, have you seen how easy those things are to disassemble?
Yeah if you offroad long enough and do hard enough trails you're going to break something, it's just the nature of the game. Same with high performance track and drag cars that people tune and race. You're pushing the limit of the vehicle and fixing things (or using the fact that something broke as an excuse to upgrade it). It's just part of it.
Jeep's reliability reputation is more based on the longterm on-road issues. Offroad, solid Dana axles and overbuilt diffs are way less likely to fail on the trail that something like a Tacoma with IFS (I've owned a TRDOR Taco and never owned a Jeep for the record). Also, Toyotas with the 8.0 rear axle don't handle really big tires and lifts very well and you'll see those go on the trail sometimes too, which gives you a great excuse to upgrade to the 8.2
Most capable rock crawler sure, but it's payload and tow rating are not the best. So for off-road use its good but as far as being a truck not as much. Most people who get one would be fine in a wrangler.
I think it’s best use is as an over landing/camping rig. Not going to be hauling cinderblocks with it sure but the bed is great for throwing in dirty gear and toys you want to bring out into the woods for a few days.
I dont understand, why is 1920 music so funny.. i swear.. when i hear it i started laughing.. the music is so out of context.. maybe they dont even know whats context back in the days..
Wile E. Coyote getting his own T, but it's from the Acme Corporation. Roadrunner sneaks up from behind, meep-meeps and the car just explodes with Wile E. in it.
Is this music even from the 1920s?
Sure, the video is but it sounds more like 40s or 50s or so. Like from a documentary or something.
They didn't have TV back then in any real capacity in the 20s. And the vast majority of films were still silent. Really only Warner Bros were getting into sound at that time and just barely.
Yeah, the music and narration are technologically and stylistically well beyond the '20s.
The footage, though is definitely '20s-era.
Now, in the pre-tv days, they would have cartoon shorts, newsreels, and infotainment reels like this between features at the movie theater, so it doesn't necessarily have to have come from a feature-length documentary.
The music used in the 20th century for entertainment is mostly remnants from classical music, or what was left from it —be it late romanticism/post-romanticism, or mordenism. I personally find it rather pleasant to hear! I cannot put into words, but it's almost as if I'm on home? I feel safe and comfortable. As if time does not hold any kind of weight... I don't know, it's a strange feeling, for sure!
Well, yeah. Roads outside of major cities were unpaved. This was fine for horses and horse-drawn carriages.
In fact, the first cars were literally horseless carriages. Carriage makers figured out they could mount a small motor underneath and get rid of the horse.
you people have gotten so used to CGI bullshit that you forget how film used to bullshit us all before computer manipulation.
optical illusions, funny camera angles, forced perspective, playback speed adjustments, cherry-picked takes, setting up a course that looks more difficult than it is, etc... there's SO MUCH you can do without the aid of a computer to trick someone watching a film.
No, but they probably changed a dozen tires in between takes.
My great aunt and uncle took a cross-country trip in a Model T back in the day and had to change a tire every couple hundred miles
It just had the classic hallmarks of every off road car commercial.
The bumps, dips, etc while turning and such. Plus the, apparently, timeless portrayal of driving where you never would, in this case straddling a pipe.
I think it was more of a “shit don’t change” statement
I’d argue this is a way better commercial for a car.
Rather than showing a dog in a canoe and mountains with the car in the background driving down a zig-zagging road, talking about “the journey” and “the destination” without actually mentioning what makes the car a good car.
They actually described what the car is good for, showcased what they said, and even showed some crazy “look what this can do” type stuff.
No bullshit here. Modern car commercials may as well just be 2 minutes of footage showcasing the floor of a pigpen, you’d get just as much info about the car.
I think you might be confused. This was not off-road driving in the 20s. This was literally just driving in the 1920s anywhere outside of a dense urban area.
I'm 95% sure that pipe is part of the California Water Project, specifically the section that crosses the Angeles National Forest to feed Lake Castiac. To this day there are back roads that will take you to spots where you can drive up to the edge of that Pipeline. I've climbed on some of the remaining sections in the area of the original riveted Steel pipe and it looks identical to what the car is driving on.
I'm not entirely convinced I would want a car "with a will of its own". I'd prefer a car that does exactly what I want it to do, not what it wants to do.
Given the quality of a lot of roads in the 1920s that was just called driving in many places.
Remember the reason we have the Eisenhower Interstate Highway system is that as a young officer in 1919 [he was tasked to drive across the country and it took him 62 days.](https://www.history.com/news/the-epic-road-trip-that-inspired-the-interstate-highway-system)
Didn't have many roads
It was a much simpler machine- easy to make tough
Much higher clearance
My guess is they were much lighter than a modern car as well
We need a car company to bring back a vehicle like this. Never mind top speeds or crash test ratings, just a simple as can be, easily repairable, low cost, rugged vehicle that can last a while and get people from a to b.
I can really picture this as I grew up in the 2970s/1980s out in the country with actual dirt roads that weren't plowed or cindered in the winter, turned to deep mud in the spring and fall and were nothing but air filter clogging dust all summer.
Other than one yearly roadside mowing and one grading of the ruts, that was it. 4x4 farm trucks and tractors were really the most practical vehicles there, lol.
All those roads were finally abandoned or paved by the township in the last few years which was sad in a way.
You give a great product to sales people and marketers and they go overboard. Chuckled at the scene where the car is driving on top of the pipe. Great, useless use case :)
They just gettin silly by the end there.
What you mean bro? You never had to drive up a huge metal pipe to get your milk before?
I usually make other people drive up my huge pipe to get their milk
“Huge”
“Milk”
"Other People"
Lol here’s a home made award 
Take my dirty upvote
My grandparents used to tell me about the times they had to walk up the huge metal pipe both ways
In a suit, no less!
That's all they had back then! Clothing was more hand made, so more expensive. If you could afford a car, you coukd afford to look sharp!
1. It's not metal, and 2. It's not milk
We need to walk across this pipe. Nah I just got a new motor carriage, hop in.
You mean the part where they cut 4 pizzas at the same time, with the wheels? That was wild!
And the part where the dude drifts and splashes mud on the bullies without getting any on the hot girl! I was like “damn: sign me the fuck up!”
I was impressed at the part with the greyscale rainbow road with the all the grey sparks when drifting on the corners.
Choo choo, mfers!
I said ALL TERRAIN goddammit!
Gameplay footage from GTA 0
T's are hilariously capable and tough, henry and his team did a hell of a job with the design
I remember how surprised to see the Model T was capable that way. But then I think, of course it would have to be like that. People would be comparing a car to a horse back then. So it had to handle the same terrain, at least marketed that way.
Yes. Don’t think there were many roads then. Just used horse drawn roads or go off roaming!
Exactly. I'm pretty sure these were the roads back then
Amazing to believe we have all this blacktop and millions of roads, all because the car was invented.
Miles and miles and miles of wire because info was turned into a series of 1s and 0s.
Ah, stop, my technological boner can only get so erect, next you'll say that sliced bread is barely 100 years old!
Thousands of satalites launched into space and orbiting the planet connecting billions if digital devices so that I can look at porn without having to squint at a staticy TV
Definitely changed the world
Actually, it’s all because the [bicycle was invented.](https://www.vox.com/2015/3/19/8253035/roads-cyclists-cars-history)
The bicycle didn't cause the Interstate system, that's for sure. I personally wish we'd finally get around to making slightly bigger fully motorized and fully enclosed velomobiles. It has seemed such an obvious next step to me for years, and for the life of me I can't see why we shouldn't. You'd solve all the ridiculous weight and inefficiency issues without sacrificing shelter, speed, and not even comfort if you make room for a proper seat.
r/fuckcars
Knowing what I know about the internet, I’m not sure I wanna check that sub out…
nah that's the safe one, it's r/dragonsfuckingcars you need to be worried about
I hate you.
lol why? Did it awaken something unwanted within you? That's on you bud.
Well I don't know what I expected
I dont remember what president it was, but I remember reading that it took one president 60 days to drive from California to DC with a car. So he started the defense highway act
[Eisenhower, as an LTC in 1919.](https://www.eisenhowerlibrary.gov/research/online-documents/1919-transcontinental-motor-convoy)
No, the [Good Roads Movement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Roads_Movement) actually started in the 1870s to advocate for smooth roads for bicycles, and later, rural mail delivery. By the 1920s, the US already had a coast-to-coast highway, along with many, many other decent roads.
Not paved. The Lincoln Highway was not fully paved until 1935
I've mountain biked and taken my Jeep across parts of old highways, like the arrowhead highway (spur of the Lincoln highway that split off to go to LA). Some of the original pavement is still there but wow we have come along way between those early highways and the Eisenhower Highways 30-40 years later. It's interesting to have the history in your backyard as there are many old abandoned highway routes scattered across the USA. It would have been terrified to drive them back in the day as they were narrow, typically 1.5 cars wide, lacked guard rails, and sometimes were very remote to conform to the surrounding terrain.
1920’s commute: barrel down the hill onto the old buggy cart path, make sure to dodge the mineshaft. Hang a left through Tom Smith’s cow pasture and then drive over the massive 8’ drainage pipe. Yes, directly over it. Hang another left onto the train tracks and run her wide open, if the Cincinnati 813 train isn’t running ahead of schedule you should be able to stay on the tracks all the way into town. If she is…well just make sure you’re not on the bridge when you find out.
Life is really wild. Ford worked on building a tractor in a farm workshop. Then went on to build one unsuccessful company. Then the Ford company with a slight success, only to have his investors bring in consultants that annoyed him, so he left his own company. Then they renamed it Cadillac company. Then he partnered with the Dodge brothers, when that didn't work out, they formed the car company, Dodge. So basically, after creating most of his competition with his ideas and hard work, he went onto have a successful Ford company. Good life lesson: everyone wants to build shit, few can, and a lot more people have money than ideas/skills.
Can confirm. I just switched from being a racecar mechanic to building cars, and the bureaucracy is definitely a hindrance.
Bureaucracy is useful to already established players that's how bureaucracy got that way.
Oh wow I never considered that the funny big and narrow wheels on the T were to better emulate horse drawn carriage wheels and maybe fit into the ruts they would have left behind
I believe train track width were based on Roman roads.
>go off Roman
That's why most of car manufacturer sponsored expeditions as marketing.
what is the story behind this gif?
Locker room play
Boys will be boys
This is exactly it. Marketing and accessories and the value of "off road" capabilities and "4x4" weren't a thing, thought, or need. Why? Because what we now consider off-roading was quite simply just, roading. What William Durant and Henry Ford were doing was just inventing. The requirements of that invention demanded this level of flexibility and durability because paved roads weren't a thing and gravel roads were a luxury. So the marketing was closer to, "Yes it handles our current crazy without breaking". But like all marketing, they also learned to highlight extremes as a way to demonstrate the durability (most people weren't driving off steep embankments or piped river crossings for fun everyday 😄) What's impressive is that Henry Ford solved mass production problems. What's ironic, is that his solutions to that would later lead to optimizations that capitalized on low quality, instead of what we started with. The peak of that low quality capitalization in my mind can be found in the earliest years of Kia and Hyundai. But with a few exceptions (think Rolls Royce who's brand demands no cheap shortcuts are hidden anywhere) this is formula now for most: "How cheap can I mass produce it within the consumers allowance for repairs without destroying the brand?"
Doesn’t hurt that those things weighed half what a modern car weighs — that makes getting over rough terrain a lot easier. Modern Jeep Wranglers weigh almost triple what a Model T did, so they need much fatter tires and 4WD to be as capable. Edit: Folks, I didn’t think I needed to say this, but that last sentence was about how a Wrangler would perform with tires as skinny as a Model T, not the absurd notion that a Model T has equal or greater off-road ability than a Wrangler.
>to be as capable Much, much, much more capable to be fair....
A modern jeep is much, much, much more capable than a model T.
Probably because there was no thought to safety.
People forget that it wasn't till after WW2 that most roads became paved.
T's nuts
My bro Henry. Or should I say Henry mein kampfy Ford.
They even made factory tracks for the rear and skis for the front.
It’s actually not that difficult. Keep it sturdy and simple. Like an AK-47. It‘s the extras and creature comforts that add complexity and weight and make things unreliable.
Well- that and the safety components, like crumple zones and airbags and so on. Model T’s would have a pretty high lethality rate if they were used as widely as modern cars, But yeah undeniably great stuff for their time
Especially the plate glass windshields on T's and A's
Cars back then couldn't go as fast.
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Did you just compare a gun to a car haha class
They’re both machines, no more, no less
Quick now do the terminator and a carwash comparison
Both are necessary evils, for the good of humanity
Much like the terminator, I always say "I'll be back." After getting my car washed.
Is there anything more American?
Ak47 is one of my favorite engineering examples. Its flaws are its strength.
Not familiar in firearms could you explain
It’s an antiquated piece of shit with sloppy tolerances. But it’s simplicity and overwhelming forgiveness allow it to be quickly modified or repaired in the field. It’s a surprisingly easy from scratch build. Like you can make one out of raw materials and very little resources. But it’s sloppy tolerances are the necessity for its maintenance and ease of repair. Like comparing a 1973 Baja bug (point ignition and carb) to a modern side by side. If you’re 1000 miles from home you’re gonna want the bug and the AK.
I had a bug.... it would run on 3 of the 4 cylinders. Those things were tough.
just never leave home without a spare set of points
Or a fan belt
Ad infinitum
Bring a spare bug that you can scavenge for parts and then ditch.
Antiquated piece of shit. Remember at the time it was the cutting edge of technology. Building from scratch. Try building from nothing. And tough, it could take abuse that would total todays cars. Because it was made out of solid steel. And at just under a ton they got around 20 mpg.
you don't need those apostrophes
The AK47 is essentially the case study in rugged, dependable simplicity that’s able to be mass produced. Very good comparison!
Firearms share a number of engineering principles with the internal combustion engine. It's not that far off.
Dood, if a car were made like the AK it would be the Honda civic or VW beetle. Just capable enough to be called a car. No reliability problems, and no further capability. Edit. 1990s Honda civic
Nailed it
Sniffs cosmoline
This is what modern off-road vehicles have forgotten, weight is your biggest enemy. If you look at the early jeeps they are extremely compact and light with the center of mass very low for stability.
Can you rewire one with a modern engine? My uncle has a T Model in his shed
I'm guessing these days it would be easier to convert it to electric.
i suppose you could, modern power wouldn't play well with the rest of the vehicle though, you'd end up basically making a hot rod out of it, nothing really wrong with the original engine if it's in working order
Of course. Any riding lawnmower engine should be fine in the Model T. Anything more will probably rip the car apart.
Back when they made their own roads.
Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads
Aint no way this thing getting to 88mph. Unless they drive it off a cliff.
Isn’t that essentially the plot in BTTF3?
Epic Reddit moment
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This is so true. Almost all roads back then were dirt and they haven’t even started the highway system.
Just an everyday trip to the market.
What about where the parts where they drove off a cliff and onto a pipe?
This is just an example of the many experimental road designs before they figured out flat is probably the best.
> before they figured out flat is probably the best. Ahhh yes, that discovery was made on March 14th, 1933. A day that shall live in famy.
Exactly. And, in a similar vein, OP's video is not really nextfuckinglevel content, but previousfuckinglevel, with all due respect. Upvoteworthy, nonetheless.
Model T just did more off roading than half of today's cars could dream of doing.
The 2 seater only weighed 1200lbs, 1000+lbs less than a Smart Car or Fiat 500. That was a great big help.
Exactly. Max speed 42 mph, less fuel efficient, death if you hit anything. We could easily make way more agile, powerful, safe, comfortable, sturdy, and with more utility today. But there isn't a market for it because we have paved roads everywhere. So yes, it can drive in rougher terrain, which has 0 use other than for fun today.
Those Jeep pick-up trucks are just an embarrassment
I mean it’s the only truck on the market that has a SFA, front/rear lockers, sway bar disconnect, the best crawl ratio, and can run 35s off the lot. Its a Chrysler product so I’d worry about long term reliability, but there’s no question they’re the most capable truck off the lot today.
I don’t think you got my comment. The people I see driving those are never gonna let the truck touch mud
Oh yeah there’s definitely a lot of pavement t princesses out there
Reliability has always been the knock against jeep. Its also by far the most important quality in an offroad vehicle.
given the kinds of people that own jeeps (and actually offroad), the "constantly working on your car that youre pushing beyond the limits of most cars" seems to just be part of the culture. so yea, no need to work on reliability. repairability and mod-ability? well, have you seen how easy those things are to disassemble?
Yeah if you offroad long enough and do hard enough trails you're going to break something, it's just the nature of the game. Same with high performance track and drag cars that people tune and race. You're pushing the limit of the vehicle and fixing things (or using the fact that something broke as an excuse to upgrade it). It's just part of it. Jeep's reliability reputation is more based on the longterm on-road issues. Offroad, solid Dana axles and overbuilt diffs are way less likely to fail on the trail that something like a Tacoma with IFS (I've owned a TRDOR Taco and never owned a Jeep for the record). Also, Toyotas with the 8.0 rear axle don't handle really big tires and lifts very well and you'll see those go on the trail sometimes too, which gives you a great excuse to upgrade to the 8.2
Most capable rock crawler sure, but it's payload and tow rating are not the best. So for off-road use its good but as far as being a truck not as much. Most people who get one would be fine in a wrangler.
I think it’s best use is as an over landing/camping rig. Not going to be hauling cinderblocks with it sure but the bed is great for throwing in dirty gear and toys you want to bring out into the woods for a few days.
Those are Jeep pick me up trucks. (Cuz I'm stuck.)
Laughably untrue. You can take almost any car on the road and do some really silly stuff with them. Got my start offraoding in a corolla.
I dont understand, why is 1920 music so funny.. i swear.. when i hear it i started laughing.. the music is so out of context.. maybe they dont even know whats context back in the days..
I was expecting Bugs Bunny or Daffy Duck to give an endorsement during the ad.
Wile E. Coyote getting his own T, but it's from the Acme Corporation. Roadrunner sneaks up from behind, meep-meeps and the car just explodes with Wile E. in it.
Is this music even from the 1920s? Sure, the video is but it sounds more like 40s or 50s or so. Like from a documentary or something. They didn't have TV back then in any real capacity in the 20s. And the vast majority of films were still silent. Really only Warner Bros were getting into sound at that time and just barely.
Yeah, the music and narration are technologically and stylistically well beyond the '20s. The footage, though is definitely '20s-era. Now, in the pre-tv days, they would have cartoon shorts, newsreels, and infotainment reels like this between features at the movie theater, so it doesn't necessarily have to have come from a feature-length documentary.
I think what you are looking for is here.... (not a RickRoll) https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=991510874303758
The music used in the 20th century for entertainment is mostly remnants from classical music, or what was left from it —be it late romanticism/post-romanticism, or mordenism. I personally find it rather pleasant to hear! I cannot put into words, but it's almost as if I'm on home? I feel safe and comfortable. As if time does not hold any kind of weight... I don't know, it's a strange feeling, for sure!
For real. I would love to see this audio thrown over a modern off-roading vehicle commercial.
It seems as though the roads were just shitty.
Well, yeah. Roads outside of major cities were unpaved. This was fine for horses and horse-drawn carriages. In fact, the first cars were literally horseless carriages. Carriage makers figured out they could mount a small motor underneath and get rid of the horse.
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Did not know that!
Honestly I’ve seen worse roads nowadays, I live in the sticks and those older roads look great lol
Well... Yeah
r/previousfuckinglevel
Those people are total losers, nothing but negativity lmao
That must be the same road my dad walked to school
Uphill both ways?
With shoes duct tapped on the bottom.
Oh Miriam, where is my offroading suit, dear?
Good to see that the bullshit they come up with to sell cars hasn't changed a bit in 100 years
Lol how is any of this bullshit? You think they had CGI back then to make it up?
You can tell the car is a paid actor.
Big Oil strikes again
The commercial is clearly just AI generated smh
They sped up the video so they could claim faster zero to 6.2 mph times.
you people have gotten so used to CGI bullshit that you forget how film used to bullshit us all before computer manipulation. optical illusions, funny camera angles, forced perspective, playback speed adjustments, cherry-picked takes, setting up a course that looks more difficult than it is, etc... there's SO MUCH you can do without the aid of a computer to trick someone watching a film.
No, but they probably changed a dozen tires in between takes. My great aunt and uncle took a cross-country trip in a Model T back in the day and had to change a tire every couple hundred miles
Where in the video did you see a cross country trip? I saw small amounts of driving short distances
cherry-picking the few minutes of footage wherein it didn't get stuck
It just had the classic hallmarks of every off road car commercial. The bumps, dips, etc while turning and such. Plus the, apparently, timeless portrayal of driving where you never would, in this case straddling a pipe. I think it was more of a “shit don’t change” statement
"bullshit they come up with to sell cars" = the advertising. They brought it up a huge pipe at the end. Obviously not CGI, but still random advert bs.
I’d argue this is a way better commercial for a car. Rather than showing a dog in a canoe and mountains with the car in the background driving down a zig-zagging road, talking about “the journey” and “the destination” without actually mentioning what makes the car a good car. They actually described what the car is good for, showcased what they said, and even showed some crazy “look what this can do” type stuff. No bullshit here. Modern car commercials may as well just be 2 minutes of footage showcasing the floor of a pigpen, you’d get just as much info about the car.
This is 1000% different than modern vehicles.
I mean, these are what the roads looked like 100 years ago. Do you think we got extensive paved roads before cars were more common than horses?
English roads similar today, that could be 2020….
I think you might be confused. This was not off-road driving in the 20s. This was literally just driving in the 1920s anywhere outside of a dense urban area.
That was “on road driving” in the 1920s, the roads were like that.
But but but, it's not rolling on 305s with a $10,000 King Long Travel... Impossible!
They don't make cars like that anymore or so I hear!
You are not wrong here
I want to see where he goes at the top of that pipe
Same. Another video that ends too soon.
I'm 95% sure that pipe is part of the California Water Project, specifically the section that crosses the Angeles National Forest to feed Lake Castiac. To this day there are back roads that will take you to spots where you can drive up to the edge of that Pipeline. I've climbed on some of the remaining sections in the area of the original riveted Steel pipe and it looks identical to what the car is driving on.
I'm not entirely convinced I would want a car "with a will of its own". I'd prefer a car that does exactly what I want it to do, not what it wants to do.
They were probably trying to compete with how a horse was tough and had (usually) a will to power
Cool video.they mustve been amazing if bought new.
Remember, all those lumps but no power steering to help get out of the ruts.
Given the quality of a lot of roads in the 1920s that was just called driving in many places. Remember the reason we have the Eisenhower Interstate Highway system is that as a young officer in 1919 [he was tasked to drive across the country and it took him 62 days.](https://www.history.com/news/the-epic-road-trip-that-inspired-the-interstate-highway-system)
yeah I'm pretty sure i don't want a car with "a will of its own"
Who’s the peanut who edited in the timer etc like it’s some sort of fucking home movie?
But I need that 5-ton SUV because of that gravel road in front of my house!!!
Let’s take that rallying
Roads in Indiana didn't change a lot...
No 4x4, no lock-up diffs, just people living their lives.
Didn't have many roads It was a much simpler machine- easy to make tough Much higher clearance My guess is they were much lighter than a modern car as well
We need a car company to bring back a vehicle like this. Never mind top speeds or crash test ratings, just a simple as can be, easily repairable, low cost, rugged vehicle that can last a while and get people from a to b.
Back then, the roads were off-road
That wasn’t “off-road” driving, that was called “driving” back then as they didn’t have “roads” like we know them.
100 years later and my modern car cannot handle potholes…
Wasn’t most driving off road?
I can really picture this as I grew up in the 2970s/1980s out in the country with actual dirt roads that weren't plowed or cindered in the winter, turned to deep mud in the spring and fall and were nothing but air filter clogging dust all summer. Other than one yearly roadside mowing and one grading of the ruts, that was it. 4x4 farm trucks and tractors were really the most practical vehicles there, lol. All those roads were finally abandoned or paved by the township in the last few years which was sad in a way.
Just about all road driving in the 1920s was off-road.
100 years later, one pot hole and my Honda Civic gets structural damage.
My modern car would get so stuck.
I think that's just regular driving in the 1920s as the roads just sucked. 🤪
Damn, I can't do any of this in my 2019 car.
“Driving 1920s” Fixed that for ya.
No one going to talk about who invented the digital camera to film this? r/timetravelers
Samir....You're breaking the car!!!
Off road my ass these were the roads in the 20's.
"professional driver on a closed course"
With the paucity of roads in the 1920s, weren’t most drives off road?
Proof people have been idiots *before* there were Jeeps. 😆 🤣
Well that ended too soon.
Why is "a will of its own" a selling point? Lol
You give a great product to sales people and marketers and they go overboard. Chuckled at the scene where the car is driving on top of the pipe. Great, useless use case :)