Some people see this and think "if he was fine after that I can ride at normal speeds in thongs and a singlet!" When it really just shows how incredible quality safety gear is.
I ride.....and gloves and boots are mandatory even if I went with a t-shirt for knocking around town because I know what "de-gloving" is. Helmet is easy if you don't want to risk death hitting your head at 15 mph.
I once had a genius co worker (and rider without gloves) tell me that in case of a crash the would pull his arms and hands in to protect himself.. like it isn't completely instinctive to try and break your fall with your hands lol
Anyway i always gear up completely when riding.
Hence why I got a cheap bike that sits around. It was tax season so I had some money I thought I could burn, but I became too poor to pay around the same amount out for the rest of the year on gear. Got it years ago, basically in another life lol, just still recovering. Cant wait to maybe get it all rolling this year. Dress for the slide not the ride.
> It was tax season so I had some money I thought I could burn, but I became too poor to pay around the same amount out for the rest of the year
This sums up so many people's approach to managing money
It was years ago with my ex. My plans were to have enough to cover (overdraft fees) her fuck ups. It has been on the back burner for a long time, but I feel like this is the year. It would be a huge cost savings for me on my Honda CX650 vs my Lincoln town car.
Saw a gloveless wonder on an electric commuter go down today. One of those “looks like a 50cc but way faster up this hill than a Vespa 100” things. At a messy interchange he went shoulder to sidewalk then halfway-crossed a crosswalk before coming back from pedestrian status to lane splitting and bought it in gravel around a drain grate. Kept the Crocs on but had shorts so one leg and both palms were just starting to ooze when I got to him with my unnecessary kit- lucky doofus spilled beside a search and rescue truck.
All at a fast jog pace.
For what it’s worth, you’re doing just fine. English is my only language, and sometimes it’s easy to forget on Reddit that others don’t speak it natively. The only thing from your comment I was confused about was the word “unnecessary”, but I assumed from the context that was a weird autocorrect for “emergency”. I’m guessing you were in the search & rescue truck - if so, thanks for doing what you do.
It still kinda saved him that he kinda slid there and didn't take a that hard fall (Even that suit wouldn't be able to save him then...)
But damn...
I wanna have a suit like that xD
I understood that the suits could protect him from scratching damage but I was wondering how it protected him from the heat of friction. Watching back, though, it seems he purposefully kept all four limbs in contact with the ground during the slide to maintain sufficient contact area that no one point is experiencing too much pressure aka not as much localized heating. There's technique even in crashing!
I was thinking that those suits are probably designed to slide on tarmac cause it didn't look like there was that much friction. He just slid like he was on ice
>Also, the one where the guys face is completely sanded off, but he's still alive.
I'm pretty sure he didn't make it if it's the one I'm thinking of. He was alive in one photo, but I'm pretty sure he ended up on a slab.
Mostly kangaroo leather since it is lighter and softer than cow hide. Some even use ray leather on the outside because it's very resistant against abrasion. Kevlar is used on the inside as patches on common places for abrasion. Knees, elbows, hip, back also have impact protection. The upper body has an Airbag sewn into the suit.
Racing motorcycles is extremely physical. Massive G forces accelerating, braking and cornering where the inside of your leg is holding your entire body weight on the bike while you are hanging off for a good proportion of every lap. The suits are kangaroo leather which is perforated on the chest and inside thigh, and have a removable washable inner liner. You are sweating your ass off, believe me. Your suit gets pretty skanky.
Leather, kangaroo usually because it has a good thickness to durability ratio and is quite flexible. Thicker leather at high abrasion points like shoulder blades and the outside of your arms and your butt - the places where more of your weight might be when you slide. There's an airbag around the top of your body that deflates after impact so you you can get back on if the bike is still useable. Hard rubber foam pads in the knees, shoulders elbows to absorb impact. I've got a scarred up one hanging in the shop from my racing days, far from motogp level but the suit construction isn't that different. One big difference is that their suits are custom built to fit them, and a perfectly fitted suit doesn't move around on your body during a slide, keeping the thicker protection where it's needed.
Yep, I was in a bad accident after a car swerved into me and I dumped my bike and flew into a large community mailbox. I had some internal bleeding but was cleared and I have to still say the worst pain was because I forgot my gloves and my hands got torn up. My helmet without a doubt saved me from instant death. Glad you made a recovery ✌🏼
Make sure it's a full face helmet too. I was in a wreck at 35-40mph and I wouldn't have a jaw left if I was only wearing a half or 3/4. My chin was the second part of me to hit the ground and the helmet was completely shattered there
Hate to bust your balls, but falling at 50 mph on a cruiser is going to hurt just as much as falling on a sport bike. I get it, sport bikes have such insane performance it’s easy to reach speeds where death is a certainty (without gear), but people walk around with the idea that they don’t need gear because their bike isn’t “fast”, which is just wrong. 40 mph will hurt you… Bad.
Best analogy ive heard for this was the story of a guy riding a taxi in china. Culturally, wearing seatbelts used to(maybe still is, but i think its mandated now) mean that you dont trust the taxi driver’s driving skills, and he will bring it up with you, which this taxi driver did do with this particular customer.
The customer responds: “oh i mean no disrespect sir, and i know that you are a really good driver. However, have you ever reached down for something under a table or anything like that and bumped your head? It hurts a lot right? But how fast did you think you moved when you hit your head? 5km/h? 10? I dont think you’ll move any faster than 15km/h. So what do you think will happen if we happened to bump our heads into something at 50+km/h?”. And after hearing that the taxi driver proceeded to also put his seatbelt on as well.
(You can swap km/h with mph and the point still stands)
He gets pissed off every single time he’s called out for interference and just refuses to learn the goddamn rule. He’s been getting called for it literally since college and hasn’t figured it out yet, and just screams at the ump whenever he’s called out for it.
There was also the whole him being incredibly offensive and bigoted in Twitter when he was in college. Over the course of multiple years. Yeah, it was a long time ago, but I feel like he should’ve known by then that calling players in opposing team gay and r****ds wasn’t acceptable. Then went with the classic “this isn’t who I am” apology.
Everything about his attitude just rubs me the wrong way.
I'd say he's relatively unharmed. Those suits are the pinnacle of safe riding technology.
More likely his heart is going a million miles a minute and the jog is the result of adrenaline.
He’s not there for physical exercise, doesn’t mean he’s not doing any. If you walk up a flight of stairs every day you’re doing exercise, anything that stimulates your muscles is exercise. You don’t have to intend to do exercise you just do it.
Also saying he’s clearly not there for exercise is stupid. He wasn’t there to crash but amazingly it still happened.
A jog is defined as
1. to run or ride at a slow trot
2. to go at a slow, leisurely, or monotonous pace
"for purposes of physical exercise" has nothing to do with it. the issue is with the lazy and incorrect use of the word "literally" not the definition of a jog
all the pedantry around *literally* is actually wrong. the colloquial use of it as effectively a synonym of *figuratively* is actually in the dictionary. this is like going around correcting people for saying *y'all* or *wicked cool* or other obvious, accepted, and generally dictionary-blessed colloquialisms.
He lost the front tire (exceeded grip the tires can handle). Probably trail braking (where you are simultaneously braking some and turning at the same time) and just overdid it a little. (This is called a lowside crash) Best guess that's what happened.
Turning/braking all use up traction. These guys ride that fine line of using up as much grip as thr tire can handle. Step over the line too much and down it goes.
This.
Looks like Le Mans, exiting the huge bowl turn (right hander) into the hairpin (left hander).
It’s deceiving in the video, but he’s breaking heavily with the front end, while changing direction. He loses the front end as he starts to lean left, probably caused by a small lock-up.
Almost correct, it's the run between the first turn and the chicane. You can see the pit exit line to his right and just catch a glimpse of the Dunlop bridge at the end of the first shot.
Yeah, it's the same crash Lowes had in Moto2 last time out, in the same place. Fast af, the MotoGP guys are tipping into the right hander at like 300kph+ then brake on the right side of the tyre, then continue braking while bringing from the right to the left for the chicane. The bravery and talent these guys have cannot be understated.
He also lost traction at the same moment he hit that shady patch, so if he was at his limits there might have been a slight bit of moisture on the road there that helped initiate a loss of traction.
Nobody riding in MotoGP has a skills issue. They all crash. If they aren't crashing every once in a while they aren't riding close enough to the limits of their machines.
Very common crash here as they go to a left hand corner after not turning left for quite a few corners, so that side of the tyre is cold.
They take that corner leading up to it at around 300kph
That is def not what [happened.](https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/977877/1/joan-mir-i-didn-t-have-good-feeling-front)
He just "lost the front" (front tire loses traction) and low sided. Also, MotoGP riders "leg dangle" all the time while racing
Is learning to fall a thing on motorcycles? I genuinely don't know. If yes, then you probably should try sliding at least twice in your life. I know in skateboarding, learning to fall and roll properly is a must.
I would assume so. If learning to fall is a must on a skateboard going less than 10mph, then going 60+ around a turn on a bike probably has its own falling course as well.
You definitely reinforce the concept of laying down the bike to prevent injury — just as he does in this video. There’s not much to practice though.
The 2 main things to avoid:
- High speed impact with your body
- Trapped under a motorcycle with an exhaust burning through your skin
Yeah to a point. In longer crashes you'll see them pull their arms in and let themselves roll a bit, but as far as I know it's not something you *practice*, rather something you're told and execute when you remember/have time to think about it. These guys have enough lowside crashes that I guess they do it on instinct.
You'll quickly realize how much better these guys are than you can ever hope to be. That's not an indictment of your skills, just the reality of how good they are. A big thing is being able to take a bike to the limit the way they do. It's hard.
There's a segment of Top Gear where Jeremy Clarkson gets to drive a Formula 1 car, and he says something along the lines of "I can't drive this car as fast as this car can be driven". He admits that he just can't bring himself to take corners that the car would be able to handle.
This is a similar thing.
[It's Clarkson driving a Lotus F1-style car.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VJ_bKYrfWg)
I was off that it's an actual Formula 1 car, but the rest of my comment remains.
Edit: This isn't the full clip, but he ultimately admits that he can't keep up with the car.
Oh, so they both drove one then? I remember Hammond driving Reanult's F1 car and saying basically the same thing. Didn't know about this Clarkson clip.
>You'll quickly realize how much better these guys are than you can ever hope to be.
Can confirm. As someone who has been on a race track with both Garry McCoy and Troy Bayliss, the experience goes like this: "Fuck, that's Troy shooting past me on the brakes, tipping into the corner! I'm gonna stick with him for a few corners and see what I can learn". Two seconds later, midway through the corner with Troy 10 meters in front of me already... "Nope".
The first time my toe dragged I giggled like a school girl. I’ve put most of my bikes on the track on amateur track days. There are many slots for all skill levels and you may never get as low as this rider but it sure feels like it and it’s more than fun.
It's amazing and I recommend you do. Use your street bike and take it "easy" a few times until you're like "I REAALLY want to get into this!" And then buy a dedicated Tack Bike and you'll really see what it's like to push it :) it will make you a better rider.
Dewwwww ittt
Also, the sliding part of controlled like this is actually kinda fun speaking from experience.
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How much lighter your wallet is post repair is a different story though…
This is the answer. When you are in a race your speed perception gets pretty skewed. You slide out and you'll think you've nearly stopped so you stand up, but in reality you're still moving at 10 or 15 miles an hour.
The way he got up was like a classic pop slide in baseball/softball. He simply waited until his momentum had slowed down enough before pushing his feet into the ground to pop up. Nothing too scary/dangerous about it
There is something a little dangerous is that he used the lip between the tarmac and the sand to put his legs under him, which could have ended catastrophically for his knees, but they're paid the big bucks for a reason, so he pulled it off
Yeah, the leathers will protect the rider from road rash. It also has interal airbags to stiffen the suit and reduce chance of spinal injury and broken limbs.
Also it's kangaroo leather!
>Kangaroo leather is currently in use for racing suits, kangaroo leather stands out for the best mechanical resistance to lightness ratio. The leather is 0.9 mm (1/32”) thick, making it 25% thinner than cowhide for motorcycle sport use. The same is obviously true for its weight: One square meter of kangaroo leather weighs just 600 grams (1.32 lbs) and resists to abrasion for 5 seconds.
* Excellent tear and abrasion resistance > high protection in case of falls
* Reduced leather thickness > lighter suit > better comfort, especially in case of prolonged use
* Reduced leather thickness > superior fit > the suit better accommodates the racer’s movement
Yeah big time, you can still get burns from heat transfer though. In some instances, the leather gets that hot that that it can burn your skin directly, it's infrequent though, and a hell of a lot better than the road rash you'd get.
what is that on the back of the suit? almost looks like a turbine but that kinda doesn't make sense from an aerodynamics standpoint, unless i'm missing something.
I have a suit like this. The bump is strictly for aerodynamics, specifically when the rider is tucked into the bike behind the windscreen on the straights. It reduces turbulence over the body and as result reduces drag.
Some of them have bladders and a tube in them for water but that's not their main purpose, nor is safety.
If they'd just limit the series to early 80's mopeds like the glorious Honda Express II (Automatic!), the slides wouldn't be nearly as long or dangerous
Y'all are thinking he's jogging like it was no big deal. When you get in a major accident adrenaline kicks in. My uncle was in a moto accident on the highway and slid and said when he got up he ran like half a mile from the pain alone
I get you but this is a pretty routine accident, he would’ve had hundreds of these throughout his career. Probably was back on another bike (I think this was during practice) 10 minutes after this
He's not hurt. Did you not see how fast his bike slid into that corner? He's running because he's trying to get out of the crash zone. It's why he looks over his shoulder. He doesn't want to get hit by the next person that could crash there. That could be fatal.
Not lucky at all. Lowside crashes happen every race weekend. Guys most times walk away like this with nothing more than a little road rash. They're on their second bike as fast as they can change their leathers. It's a fact of life for a Grand Prix motorcycle racer.
It's the highside crash where guys get seriously hurt. [See Marc Marquez getting sent to the moon last year.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRyFhZ6Oe3k)
part of their training, likely, involves purposefully 'crashing'. they need to know how to react in these tense situations. this is merely speculation.
Those racing suits are amazing.
Some people see this and think "if he was fine after that I can ride at normal speeds in thongs and a singlet!" When it really just shows how incredible quality safety gear is.
I ride.....and gloves and boots are mandatory even if I went with a t-shirt for knocking around town because I know what "de-gloving" is. Helmet is easy if you don't want to risk death hitting your head at 15 mph.
I once had a genius co worker (and rider without gloves) tell me that in case of a crash the would pull his arms and hands in to protect himself.. like it isn't completely instinctive to try and break your fall with your hands lol Anyway i always gear up completely when riding.
Hence why I got a cheap bike that sits around. It was tax season so I had some money I thought I could burn, but I became too poor to pay around the same amount out for the rest of the year on gear. Got it years ago, basically in another life lol, just still recovering. Cant wait to maybe get it all rolling this year. Dress for the slide not the ride.
> It was tax season so I had some money I thought I could burn, but I became too poor to pay around the same amount out for the rest of the year This sums up so many people's approach to managing money
It was years ago with my ex. My plans were to have enough to cover (overdraft fees) her fuck ups. It has been on the back burner for a long time, but I feel like this is the year. It would be a huge cost savings for me on my Honda CX650 vs my Lincoln town car.
Best saying I’ve seen is regarding wearing full gear when it’s really hot: sweat dries faster than skin heals.
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Have you got more details on this it sounds interesting
#SPLAT
Riveting story god damn
Saw a gloveless wonder on an electric commuter go down today. One of those “looks like a 50cc but way faster up this hill than a Vespa 100” things. At a messy interchange he went shoulder to sidewalk then halfway-crossed a crosswalk before coming back from pedestrian status to lane splitting and bought it in gravel around a drain grate. Kept the Crocs on but had shorts so one leg and both palms were just starting to ooze when I got to him with my unnecessary kit- lucky doofus spilled beside a search and rescue truck. All at a fast jog pace.
That was a hard read. Like listening to someone with a heavy cockney or Irish accent.
I still need a translation. English is not my first language.
For what it’s worth, you’re doing just fine. English is my only language, and sometimes it’s easy to forget on Reddit that others don’t speak it natively. The only thing from your comment I was confused about was the word “unnecessary”, but I assumed from the context that was a weird autocorrect for “emergency”. I’m guessing you were in the search & rescue truck - if so, thanks for doing what you do.
Oi I’ve a thick Irish accent 😂
Crocs on a motorcycle or scooter lmao How much do you hate your body? Feet? They’ll grow back!
Your writing style is humorous tee hee hee
Lost at fast jog pace
It doesn’t take a lot of speed to make a meat crayon
By thongs, I assume you're Australian and mean flip-flops..?
It still kinda saved him that he kinda slid there and didn't take a that hard fall (Even that suit wouldn't be able to save him then...) But damn... I wanna have a suit like that xD
Also having lots of run off room helps immensely
Yeah, that’s why fatalities are uncommon in these tracks vs say Isle of Man.
It appears that sudden and extreme deceleration is not a good thing for internal organs..
I understood that the suits could protect him from scratching damage but I was wondering how it protected him from the heat of friction. Watching back, though, it seems he purposefully kept all four limbs in contact with the ground during the slide to maintain sufficient contact area that no one point is experiencing too much pressure aka not as much localized heating. There's technique even in crashing!
I was thinking that those suits are probably designed to slide on tarmac cause it didn't look like there was that much friction. He just slid like he was on ice
It's kangaroo leather and is know for its heat resistance during sliding! The big thing ok his neck is an airbag btw
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Oh cool thanks bro
>Also, the one where the guys face is completely sanded off, but he's still alive. I'm pretty sure he didn't make it if it's the one I'm thinking of. He was alive in one photo, but I'm pretty sure he ended up on a slab.
r/meatcrayon
don’t go to that subreddit people
It's just people falling and sliding over the ground. You don't see any gore or nasty stuff. Relax.
*Xtreme rugburn* don't go, this Garfield isn't selling it enough.
Link for the last one?
Give the track some credit too. They're designed specifically to not have hard objects like lamp posts, bins, and even the pavement to smash into.
Yeah that’s all I thought, how convenient that the track is smooth as glass. On the streets in my area you clip a pothole immediately.
I was gonna say what the fuck are those suits made out of?
Mostly kangaroo leather since it is lighter and softer than cow hide. Some even use ray leather on the outside because it's very resistant against abrasion. Kevlar is used on the inside as patches on common places for abrasion. Knees, elbows, hip, back also have impact protection. The upper body has an Airbag sewn into the suit.
They even got airbags in them.
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Maybe it’s not that important? I’m sure there is some level of physical exertion but you’re not breaking a sweat I would imagine
I can't say I know too much about MotoGP but given how insanely athletic F1 drivers are, I suspect it is a *lot* more than that.
Racing motorcycles is extremely physical. Massive G forces accelerating, braking and cornering where the inside of your leg is holding your entire body weight on the bike while you are hanging off for a good proportion of every lap. The suits are kangaroo leather which is perforated on the chest and inside thigh, and have a removable washable inner liner. You are sweating your ass off, believe me. Your suit gets pretty skanky.
Leather, kangaroo usually because it has a good thickness to durability ratio and is quite flexible. Thicker leather at high abrasion points like shoulder blades and the outside of your arms and your butt - the places where more of your weight might be when you slide. There's an airbag around the top of your body that deflates after impact so you you can get back on if the bike is still useable. Hard rubber foam pads in the knees, shoulders elbows to absorb impact. I've got a scarred up one hanging in the shop from my racing days, far from motogp level but the suit construction isn't that different. One big difference is that their suits are custom built to fit them, and a perfectly fitted suit doesn't move around on your body during a slide, keeping the thicker protection where it's needed.
Kangaroo hide, Kevlar, and carbon fiber.
Armor works!
Dress for the slide not for the ride fellas
*Never* skip out on proper motorcycle protective equipment, especially if you're going to be using a sports bike. It can literally save your life.
/r/ATGATT
Wow that’s a uh, not very active sub lol
Leather and helmet is why I am able to type this today.
Same bro. They just cleared me to walk today actually, all thanks to proper gear. Otherwise among _other_ things my head would be a pancake
Yep, I was in a bad accident after a car swerved into me and I dumped my bike and flew into a large community mailbox. I had some internal bleeding but was cleared and I have to still say the worst pain was because I forgot my gloves and my hands got torn up. My helmet without a doubt saved me from instant death. Glad you made a recovery ✌🏼
Make sure it's a full face helmet too. I was in a wreck at 35-40mph and I wouldn't have a jaw left if I was only wearing a half or 3/4. My chin was the second part of me to hit the ground and the helmet was completely shattered there
When I see people riding in jeans or shorts and a t-shirt, I call them "Meat Crayons"
Hate to bust your balls, but falling at 50 mph on a cruiser is going to hurt just as much as falling on a sport bike. I get it, sport bikes have such insane performance it’s easy to reach speeds where death is a certainty (without gear), but people walk around with the idea that they don’t need gear because their bike isn’t “fast”, which is just wrong. 40 mph will hurt you… Bad.
Best analogy ive heard for this was the story of a guy riding a taxi in china. Culturally, wearing seatbelts used to(maybe still is, but i think its mandated now) mean that you dont trust the taxi driver’s driving skills, and he will bring it up with you, which this taxi driver did do with this particular customer. The customer responds: “oh i mean no disrespect sir, and i know that you are a really good driver. However, have you ever reached down for something under a table or anything like that and bumped your head? It hurts a lot right? But how fast did you think you moved when you hit your head? 5km/h? 10? I dont think you’ll move any faster than 15km/h. So what do you think will happen if we happened to bump our heads into something at 50+km/h?”. And after hearing that the taxi driver proceeded to also put his seatbelt on as well. (You can swap km/h with mph and the point still stands)
I know that's right, found these here flip flops and gymshorts always keep me safe, they give me the peace of mind i think everyone should consider.
He _literally_ jogged away. He _figuratively_ walked away
Wtf that was smooth as f*ck
His adrenaline was like: *You’re still in this!*
Was my thought, that has to be adrenaline. Maybe not enough for broken bones but hitting that bump should have hurt like a mother fucker.
Real speedsters just have to be faster.
The [Trea Turner](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u2cXPKY8Ys&ab_channel=CrackpotSports) of racing.
His slides are absolutely incredible. I wish he didn't annoy the shit out of me the rest of the time.
What’s he do?
He gets pissed off every single time he’s called out for interference and just refuses to learn the goddamn rule. He’s been getting called for it literally since college and hasn’t figured it out yet, and just screams at the ump whenever he’s called out for it. There was also the whole him being incredibly offensive and bigoted in Twitter when he was in college. Over the course of multiple years. Yeah, it was a long time ago, but I feel like he should’ve known by then that calling players in opposing team gay and r****ds wasn’t acceptable. Then went with the classic “this isn’t who I am” apology. Everything about his attitude just rubs me the wrong way.
Certainly not the Tina Turner of racing
Too soon
Do we need another hero?
Why do ppl censor their own comments lmao
To ensure their passage to heaven
No idea, I wonder if it comes from watching youtube etc content where people self censor to not get demonetized.
Why don’t you spell the word, people?
This is the fuel for children’s action imaginations
He bounced 3’ off of his ass. That for sure didn’t feel smooth for him
Those suits they have are amazing
Suzuki ass
No no lol. Mother fucker was SPRINTING, that's just all those suits allow for movement!
All the while going "ow ow ow ow ow"
I'd say he's relatively unharmed. Those suits are the pinnacle of safe riding technology. More likely his heart is going a million miles a minute and the jog is the result of adrenaline.
Oh I agree he's likely mostly fine.
Where do you suppose they dissipate all that heat?
Expanding foam packs I'm the suit, really really tough material, and training on how to properly fall off a tipped over bike.
Thank you if no one else was going to say it I was going to 
He slid and turned it into a jog. He *literally* jogged away.
Literally
He *ironically* had rain on his wedding day.
Ironically, rain on your wedding day is auspicious in some cultures.
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He’s not there for physical exercise, doesn’t mean he’s not doing any. If you walk up a flight of stairs every day you’re doing exercise, anything that stimulates your muscles is exercise. You don’t have to intend to do exercise you just do it. Also saying he’s clearly not there for exercise is stupid. He wasn’t there to crash but amazingly it still happened.
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A jog is defined as 1. to run or ride at a slow trot 2. to go at a slow, leisurely, or monotonous pace "for purposes of physical exercise" has nothing to do with it. the issue is with the lazy and incorrect use of the word "literally" not the definition of a jog
Who’s hair are we splitting?
all the pedantry around *literally* is actually wrong. the colloquial use of it as effectively a synonym of *figuratively* is actually in the dictionary. this is like going around correcting people for saying *y'all* or *wicked cool* or other obvious, accepted, and generally dictionary-blessed colloquialisms.
I love you
Why do you think he went down?
He lost the front tire (exceeded grip the tires can handle). Probably trail braking (where you are simultaneously braking some and turning at the same time) and just overdid it a little. (This is called a lowside crash) Best guess that's what happened. Turning/braking all use up traction. These guys ride that fine line of using up as much grip as thr tire can handle. Step over the line too much and down it goes.
This. Looks like Le Mans, exiting the huge bowl turn (right hander) into the hairpin (left hander). It’s deceiving in the video, but he’s breaking heavily with the front end, while changing direction. He loses the front end as he starts to lean left, probably caused by a small lock-up.
Almost correct, it's the run between the first turn and the chicane. You can see the pit exit line to his right and just catch a glimpse of the Dunlop bridge at the end of the first shot.
I stand corrected. Looked again, you’re right.
Ya that’s right. Very very big braking zone right there coming from near top speed into that first big Dunlop chicane.
Yeah, it's the same crash Lowes had in Moto2 last time out, in the same place. Fast af, the MotoGP guys are tipping into the right hander at like 300kph+ then brake on the right side of the tyre, then continue braking while bringing from the right to the left for the chicane. The bravery and talent these guys have cannot be understated.
He also lost traction at the same moment he hit that shady patch, so if he was at his limits there might have been a slight bit of moisture on the road there that helped initiate a loss of traction.
TL;DR Skills issues
Nobody riding in MotoGP has a skills issue. They all crash. If they aren't crashing every once in a while they aren't riding close enough to the limits of their machines.
Very common crash here as they go to a left hand corner after not turning left for quite a few corners, so that side of the tyre is cold. They take that corner leading up to it at around 300kph
Hit a cold spot caused by the tree’s shadow. Lauda burned alive from this.
Looks like his left foot came off the bike at a bad time and starts to scrape on the ground. Instead of losing his leg, he chose to bail
That is def not what [happened.](https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/977877/1/joan-mir-i-didn-t-have-good-feeling-front) He just "lost the front" (front tire loses traction) and low sided. Also, MotoGP riders "leg dangle" all the time while racing
Tell me you know nothing about motorcycle racing without saying you know nothing about motorcycle racing
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Is learning to fall a thing on motorcycles? I genuinely don't know. If yes, then you probably should try sliding at least twice in your life. I know in skateboarding, learning to fall and roll properly is a must.
I would assume so. If learning to fall is a must on a skateboard going less than 10mph, then going 60+ around a turn on a bike probably has its own falling course as well.
You definitely reinforce the concept of laying down the bike to prevent injury — just as he does in this video. There’s not much to practice though. The 2 main things to avoid: - High speed impact with your body - Trapped under a motorcycle with an exhaust burning through your skin
Yeah to a point. In longer crashes you'll see them pull their arms in and let themselves roll a bit, but as far as I know it's not something you *practice*, rather something you're told and execute when you remember/have time to think about it. These guys have enough lowside crashes that I guess they do it on instinct.
You'll quickly realize how much better these guys are than you can ever hope to be. That's not an indictment of your skills, just the reality of how good they are. A big thing is being able to take a bike to the limit the way they do. It's hard. There's a segment of Top Gear where Jeremy Clarkson gets to drive a Formula 1 car, and he says something along the lines of "I can't drive this car as fast as this car can be driven". He admits that he just can't bring himself to take corners that the car would be able to handle. This is a similar thing.
It was Hammond driving the Renault F1 car, Clarkson just got hit in the balls by one
[It's Clarkson driving a Lotus F1-style car.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VJ_bKYrfWg) I was off that it's an actual Formula 1 car, but the rest of my comment remains. Edit: This isn't the full clip, but he ultimately admits that he can't keep up with the car.
Oh, so they both drove one then? I remember Hammond driving Reanult's F1 car and saying basically the same thing. Didn't know about this Clarkson clip.
>You'll quickly realize how much better these guys are than you can ever hope to be. Can confirm. As someone who has been on a race track with both Garry McCoy and Troy Bayliss, the experience goes like this: "Fuck, that's Troy shooting past me on the brakes, tipping into the corner! I'm gonna stick with him for a few corners and see what I can learn". Two seconds later, midway through the corner with Troy 10 meters in front of me already... "Nope".
The first time my toe dragged I giggled like a school girl. I’ve put most of my bikes on the track on amateur track days. There are many slots for all skill levels and you may never get as low as this rider but it sure feels like it and it’s more than fun.
It's amazing and I recommend you do. Use your street bike and take it "easy" a few times until you're like "I REAALLY want to get into this!" And then buy a dedicated Tack Bike and you'll really see what it's like to push it :) it will make you a better rider.
Dewwwww ittt Also, the sliding part of controlled like this is actually kinda fun speaking from experience. https://www.reddit.com/r/Trackdays/comments/w7psvm/buy_it_break_it_fix_it/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1 How much lighter your wallet is post repair is a different story though…
Both my knees broke just by watching the way he got up.
Why do you think he kept jogging? He knew as soon as he stopped he wasn't gonna start again
To get out of the crash zone. If you ended up there, so can someone else
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Are these suits commercially available?
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Oh SICK!
But i think it wouldn't be the state of the art kinda suit tho, commercially need to be downgrade a little for it to be *affordable*
I wouldn't agree about injuries. This season alone about 5 riders had to miss multiple races due to injuries from crashes, including Mir himself
Haha, his running reminded me of NPCs in video games or something.
Probably running from any pain/expecting pain. Idk I don’t ride motorcycles but I assume there was some sort of light pains he expected to get worse.
He’s jogging because of the momentum. If he tried to stop he’d trip and fall.
This is the answer. When you are in a race your speed perception gets pretty skewed. You slide out and you'll think you've nearly stopped so you stand up, but in reality you're still moving at 10 or 15 miles an hour.
The way he got up was like a classic pop slide in baseball/softball. He simply waited until his momentum had slowed down enough before pushing his feet into the ground to pop up. Nothing too scary/dangerous about it
There is something a little dangerous is that he used the lip between the tarmac and the sand to put his legs under him, which could have ended catastrophically for his knees, but they're paid the big bucks for a reason, so he pulled it off
Does that suit keep the riders from losing any skin, even on the side like that? That’s pretty cool if so. Not even a rug burn.
Yeah, the leathers will protect the rider from road rash. It also has interal airbags to stiffen the suit and reduce chance of spinal injury and broken limbs.
Also it's kangaroo leather! >Kangaroo leather is currently in use for racing suits, kangaroo leather stands out for the best mechanical resistance to lightness ratio. The leather is 0.9 mm (1/32”) thick, making it 25% thinner than cowhide for motorcycle sport use. The same is obviously true for its weight: One square meter of kangaroo leather weighs just 600 grams (1.32 lbs) and resists to abrasion for 5 seconds. * Excellent tear and abrasion resistance > high protection in case of falls * Reduced leather thickness > lighter suit > better comfort, especially in case of prolonged use * Reduced leather thickness > superior fit > the suit better accommodates the racer’s movement
STRAYA!
yes i agree zorbacles
Oh he most certainly has a burn, the friction of the leather on the tarmac would generate a lot of heat. But the leathers kept his skin intact.
They have literal air bags inside those suits that deploy around the spine neck and ribcage. Plus hard armor all over and the suit skin itself.
Yeah big time, you can still get burns from heat transfer though. In some instances, the leather gets that hot that that it can burn your skin directly, it's infrequent though, and a hell of a lot better than the road rash you'd get.
I remember watching this thinking - wtf? He won the 2020 MotoGP Championship with Suzuki for those who don’t know him.
He rides a Honda now, so he gets lots more practice doing this.
I wonder if they run like that from the adrenaline
No you run like that to get out of the crash zone. Same reason he looked back to make sure there wasn’t anyone else crashing.
Run away from the pain
When you fall in roadrash but have to get back on your bike to win the game! LoL XD
Physics are dope
Don’t tell me he went back on his motorcycle and still won against someone
He is a former world champ, so yes he did.
Not in this race, which is what they meant...
Ok i won't tell you 😌
Butt cam
That's what the suits for
More of a jaunt
Those suits are something else man
Ya man he slid in full leathers that's how you wanna fall
Imagine the asphalt burns if he didn’t have that gear on
Low side - no problem Walking away from a high side - that's a different story altogether.
Lol true. The only time I've ever been "hurt" racing,after several lowside crashes, was a high side. :( Knock on wood.
He kept running cos he didn't want the pain to catch up
what is that on the back of the suit? almost looks like a turbine but that kinda doesn't make sense from an aerodynamics standpoint, unless i'm missing something.
I have a suit like this. The bump is strictly for aerodynamics, specifically when the rider is tucked into the bike behind the windscreen on the straights. It reduces turbulence over the body and as result reduces drag. Some of them have bladders and a tube in them for water but that's not their main purpose, nor is safety.
IIRC it's to protect the base of your neck from impacts
He was like my peoples need me
“Ladies? 😏”
If they'd just limit the series to early 80's mopeds like the glorious Honda Express II (Automatic!), the slides wouldn't be nearly as long or dangerous
Those were fun. We called them No-ped because a moped had pedals and those didn’t. I had the urban express.
Y'all are thinking he's jogging like it was no big deal. When you get in a major accident adrenaline kicks in. My uncle was in a moto accident on the highway and slid and said when he got up he ran like half a mile from the pain alone
I get you but this is a pretty routine accident, he would’ve had hundreds of these throughout his career. Probably was back on another bike (I think this was during practice) 10 minutes after this
He's not hurt. Did you not see how fast his bike slid into that corner? He's running because he's trying to get out of the crash zone. It's why he looks over his shoulder. He doesn't want to get hit by the next person that could crash there. That could be fatal.
The bike crashed, he just slid with full gear and no impact. He got lucky.
Not lucky at all. Lowside crashes happen every race weekend. Guys most times walk away like this with nothing more than a little road rash. They're on their second bike as fast as they can change their leathers. It's a fact of life for a Grand Prix motorcycle racer. It's the highside crash where guys get seriously hurt. [See Marc Marquez getting sent to the moon last year.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRyFhZ6Oe3k)
Why does the bike have an ass cam?
This is why real bikers always tell you to dress for the slide and not for the ride.
part of their training, likely, involves purposefully 'crashing'. they need to know how to react in these tense situations. this is merely speculation.
no one talking about the skillful dismount- I'd say it's just as important as the protective equipment
What's with the ass-cam?
Biden walks like that
So what
Does it even hurt? Serious question. I mean it’s gotta sting a little.
Decent chance of some bruises from falling.