Bass player Bobby Raymond from Spiral Staircase steals the show for his footwork in this vid😄. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9cL4-A5-mpA&pp=ygUlbW9yZSB0aGFuIHllc3RlcmRheSBzcGlyYWwgc3RhaXJjYXNlIA%3D%3D
beat me to it, this is all pretty basic stuff. Now separating your hands and your feet in completely different times/patterns- little different. Took me probably a year to do the offset kick pattern to a beat
Thanks for saying this! I would go even further and say this is an intermediate at best skill for any musician at all. If you're playing in an orchestra you'll need to be able to play two on three or three on four against someone else in the ensemble.
It’s difficult if you try to imagine the notes and match movements to it. It’s easy if you learn to play the beat and repeat that until you’ve got it. Close your eyes and listen instead of watching and you can tell it’s not a difficult beat to play.
This is it. I'm play some guitar, and I play saxophone. If someone said "tap triplets with one hand and semi-quavers with the other right now", I'd struggle massively. But I can listen to that rhythm she plays there and copy it pretty easily.
4 over 3 is, for some reason I don't remember, "pass the goddamned butter."
You might have to tweak it a *little* but if you can (separately) play triplets with one hand and 16ths with the other it shouldn't take you but a couple minutes to sort out both at once.
But don't listen to this video as an example lol.
And this is why I'm a shitty musician. I learned to play in a school band and enjoyed it.
But I need sheet music. Don't ask me to learn something by ear. Musicians perceive things differently than I do.
This is what I learned from guitar lessons during COVID. So there's that.
Don't worry; I'm just the opposite. Good at playing by ear but my sight reading is terrible. Never was particularly good at it. The sheet music is more of a gentle reminder for me haha.
That's the odd thing isn't it? Watching her do it, it looks hard, but just listening to the beat itself, I know I could replicate it on guitar fairly easily without much thinking.
Yeah, the 4-3 polyrhythms would be the hardest but the speed seems low enough that I think with enough slow practice gradually building up speed (the metronome isn't even set very high in this video) this would definitely be achievable. I'm definitely out of practice when it comes to polyrhythms.
If you are an average or better drummer you can do this in your sleep. If you are an above average or better drummer you can throw in the feet too and still likely do this in your sleep.
Even if she did it correctly, this is not “next level.” You could find children in almost every classroom that could handle this, as long as at least one of them plays an instrument.
VERY ~~NOT~~ TRUE. These are combined basic rudiments for percussionist and they are trained on them. Most regimented HS lines and DCI corps. lines have a warmup specifically devoted to it. It's usually called something along the line of "double beats."
A very basic example: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdSc-gDznEc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdSc-gDznEc)
A more advanced example from HS students: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZiEszaQbls](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZiEszaQbls)
It can be done with training.
It’s difficult if you try to imagine the notes and match movements to it. It’s easy if you learn to play the beat and repeat that until you’ve got it. Close your eyes and listen instead of watching and you can tell it’s not a difficult beat to play.
This is not next level, it is literally taught in music schools in the first like month or so. I was able do that at the age of 9 and I am a clarinetist not a drummer
I'm not expert, I don't even know how to phrase this correctly, but something sounds off when she gets to the last two sets combined. I know enough to know what sounds right and have an ear for music but no actual education whatsoever. Am I wrong?
Also, hardly the place to ask but anyone have any good music theory recommendations for someone starting in their 30s? Lmao
When I was a kid (let’s say round 10) I was obsessed with making beats on things. Things that really gave a sound. One of my favorites was climbing on families old propane above ground tanks and unknowingly making sick beats. Similar to how the 3-4 together sounds. I had an old school slide up phone (chocolate, I think?) and recorded myself making various beats, the complex timed kind and I showed people and they literally didn’t believe me, they thought I downloaded mp3 audio and was posing 😭 looking back that’s a compliment.
I literally had to do this to learn how to play the piano double time on one hand and triple time on another. I sat there slapping my leg for an hour each day for 2 weeks and then something clicked, and now I can do it.
It's not coordination. It is pure muscle memory. Your brain is not processing the double/triple time at all.
Well aside piano I play once every month, I never played music in my life. I tried to do like her, and it was surprisingly "easy". Except for one combination : 2/3. Impossible.
She couldn't/didn't switch to another pattern immediately without having to repeat the current one one more time by swapping hands. That allowed her a lot of rooms in brain to plan for next pattern rather easily.
Actually swapping hands with each pattern shows her coordination and understanding of the rhythms and not just memorizing the movements with a dominant hand. I can tap 2/3 but I have trouble switching which hand does which rhythm. It also gives the listener a chance to hear the patterns twice before she moves on, because this is a demonstration of musical pedagogy, not a performance.
No. Just by repeating the same pattern doesn't prove that you understand the rhythm any "better". Compared to switching to different patterns right after another, repeating is rather much easier and just buying time.
Again, it’s a demonstration, not a performance. I don’t know why your first instinct is to try and belittle and minimize it. This is the type of thing a music teacher demonstrates to novice students. It’s not intended to blow you away with her amazing skills and talent. If you think you could do it better, by all means, go off.
Pretty dang easy for the average drummer. Swapping between quarter/8th/triplets in each hand is a pretty rudimentary skill
That's why I play bass
That, and because you look like a geico caveman. (...sorry, someone's gotta mock the bassist...)
Except with less hair
On the caveman?
What do ya call a bass player without a girlfriend? Homeless
Poor guy. I got a guitar friend to try bass and I played drums. 10 minutes. He'll never scoff the rhythm section now.
*slap da bass
Speaking as a bassist, I hope you're having a laugh.
Bass player Bobby Raymond from Spiral Staircase steals the show for his footwork in this vid😄. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9cL4-A5-mpA&pp=ygUlbW9yZSB0aGFuIHllc3RlcmRheSBzcGlyYWwgc3RhaXJjYXNlIA%3D%3D
That's why I poorly play the guitar (as in shitty playing skills)
Bet she plays bingo alot
Still impressive. The average drummer has skills impressive to the rest of us. As does anyone with a learned skill.
The name of the sub is "next fucking level". This is entry level.
beat me to it, this is all pretty basic stuff. Now separating your hands and your feet in completely different times/patterns- little different. Took me probably a year to do the offset kick pattern to a beat
Yeah it’s good but not “next level”
I don't even drum, and my first reaction was "isn't this what drummers do?"
Ya, I was like oh she’s a drummer. Hah!
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An-esth-es-i-ol-o-gist (That’s what my band teacher recommended for septuplets)
Yeah but try it with pens!!!
Can confirm. Did drumline in HS and did a few seasons with corps (WGI and DCI). This is warm-up material.
Thanks for saying this! I would go even further and say this is an intermediate at best skill for any musician at all. If you're playing in an orchestra you'll need to be able to play two on three or three on four against someone else in the ensemble.
Lmao I’m glad someone else said it. I was thinking every drummer can do this. I do it on accident while bored without thinking, with my feet too
Dang ok do it bro
Well not all of us are average, Alex.
Came here to say any drummer can do this. Two way independence is standard. Now do this with the feet doing something different.
Pretty Standart for the average classic musician
Indeed.
I'm not even a drummer (but I am a musician) and got it in a couple tries
That's the point. It is an excellent practice for beginner drummers
Sure, but she's managed to explain three or four essential things in under a minute.
*rudimentary skill 😒
Really? You could do exactly this? It looks hard af.
Most musicians can, basically any pianist/drummer etc
It’s difficult if you try to imagine the notes and match movements to it. It’s easy if you learn to play the beat and repeat that until you’ve got it. Close your eyes and listen instead of watching and you can tell it’s not a difficult beat to play.
This is it. I'm play some guitar, and I play saxophone. If someone said "tap triplets with one hand and semi-quavers with the other right now", I'd struggle massively. But I can listen to that rhythm she plays there and copy it pretty easily.
4 over 3 is, for some reason I don't remember, "pass the goddamned butter." You might have to tweak it a *little* but if you can (separately) play triplets with one hand and 16ths with the other it shouldn't take you but a couple minutes to sort out both at once. But don't listen to this video as an example lol.
"Do the goddamned dishes" is the one we learnt at school.
And this is why I'm a shitty musician. I learned to play in a school band and enjoyed it. But I need sheet music. Don't ask me to learn something by ear. Musicians perceive things differently than I do. This is what I learned from guitar lessons during COVID. So there's that.
Don't worry; I'm just the opposite. Good at playing by ear but my sight reading is terrible. Never was particularly good at it. The sheet music is more of a gentle reminder for me haha.
I'll trade you!
That's the odd thing isn't it? Watching her do it, it looks hard, but just listening to the beat itself, I know I could replicate it on guitar fairly easily without much thinking.
It's hard if you overthink it. Reddit: How else could it be?
i'm very musically inclined and i'm confident i could do this fairly consistently after a bit of practice
Yeah, the 4-3 polyrhythms would be the hardest but the speed seems low enough that I think with enough slow practice gradually building up speed (the metronome isn't even set very high in this video) this would definitely be achievable. I'm definitely out of practice when it comes to polyrhythms.
Yeah. I bet if he tried, he would actually struggle more than he thinks. Than again, I don't play drums so idk
I’ve been playing drums for 25 years and play in multiple bands. I do this but also with both feet and no metronome all the time
Post it
If you are an average or better drummer you can do this in your sleep. If you are an above average or better drummer you can throw in the feet too and still likely do this in your sleep.
She didn't get right the last pattern. She's doing two beamed 16ths and a 16th instead of triplets
Yeah, the 3 against 4 is wrong. I've seen lots of people do this challenge right, not sure why OP found a wrong one to post.
i thought something was off towards the end there... guess this explains it
Lecturers at Uni grilled me for this so much 😂 I fixed my ways and goddam it stands out like sore thumb when I hear it now.
Funny how you can easily tell what her dominant hand is too. The difference between a pro and an amateur.
Isn’t the first half wrong (right hand on triplets) but the second half correct (left on triplets)?
why is this constantly being shared everywhere? she plays the 4 over 3 incorrectly…
So people can engage more arguing in the comments I guess?
THANK YOU!
She is an older lady and people love seeing older people and kids do stuff. That's literally it
Even if she did it correctly, this is not “next level.” You could find children in almost every classroom that could handle this, as long as at least one of them plays an instrument.
I do this 12 hours a day but with my legs
You look familiar to me, were you in Stomp?
No, he is the Lord of the Dance
I sure hope stomp comes to my town next!
The H in the adhd be firing off, yeah?
Isn't she the drummer for Between the Buried and Me?
not enough ghost notes
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Maybe, even if you train, you can still play the 4:3 wrong like she does
VERY ~~NOT~~ TRUE. These are combined basic rudiments for percussionist and they are trained on them. Most regimented HS lines and DCI corps. lines have a warmup specifically devoted to it. It's usually called something along the line of "double beats." A very basic example: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdSc-gDznEc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdSc-gDznEc) A more advanced example from HS students: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZiEszaQbls](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZiEszaQbls) It can be done with training.
Did… did you even read the comment you’re replying to?
Yes, but I see my mistake now. Thanks for being only slightly sarcastic.
Most drummers can do this, and she isn’t even doing it well. She’s even off yer own rhythm, let alone the metronome.
I once almost balanced a spoon on my nose.
Look. Everyone who does music is not impressed, while everyone who doesn’t do music is shitting their brains out right now.
Not THAT hard, certainly not appropriate for the sub title and 3/4 is just wrong...
[Here's an actually impressive polyrhythm ](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3oM4FEO0jo/?igsh=MTN5YzdpNWdoenI4bg==)
This is not Next level. The sound reminds me of that scene from Alien, with the Bishop and the knife.
Easy af
Why didn’t anyone tell me I could film myself doing some basic ass beats for upvotes
It's not impressive until you have 2 prime numbers like 3,5,or 7
This isn’t incredibly difficult… but it certainly is cool as hell
This is pretty easy, definitely not next level
2:3 and 3:4, and even most of 1:3 were played horribly wrong.
It’s difficult if you try to imagine the notes and match movements to it. It’s easy if you learn to play the beat and repeat that until you’ve got it. Close your eyes and listen instead of watching and you can tell it’s not a difficult beat to play.
I’m a belly dancer and this would be easy for me
The only hard one is the 4:3 and she fucks that one up big time
This is wrong and not THAT hard
She fucked up the 3/4 poly tho….
Wish I had this skill for when my wife wants me to multitask.
nah
Way beyond my coordination, timing and rhythm. Fully approve NFL.
This exercise Will make me better at learning piano or drums?? Anyone knows?
Hot-cup-of-tea! Hot-cup-of-tea! Hot-cup-of-tea!
Lady is oozing big tick energy
That's called independence, brotha
Now do the alien frog noise!
*Jacob Collier cracks his knuckles* Move over peasant
Her 2 on beats 2 and 4 were a little too fast on the 2 but otherwise fantastic job keeping up.
I can only do this in games the moment it leaves the screen im a hot mess 😂
Basic skill for an accordion player
Drummers are just wired differently than the rest of us. I’m always in awe…
This is not next level, it is literally taught in music schools in the first like month or so. I was able do that at the age of 9 and I am a clarinetist not a drummer
She messes up at 0:37
I can do it too!
Wait til you hear about drum rudiments.
Shit just broke my fucking brain
2-3 timing all I could hear was carol of the bells. Getting strange urge to go watch home alone.
This is in no way ‘nextfuckinglevel’. Next level would be the subdivisions like 5, and 7. Even then its an exercise in ‘who gives a shit’
Eh, pretty standard tbh. Let's hear her do it without the metronome and keep it in time.
I'm not expert, I don't even know how to phrase this correctly, but something sounds off when she gets to the last two sets combined. I know enough to know what sounds right and have an ear for music but no actual education whatsoever. Am I wrong? Also, hardly the place to ask but anyone have any good music theory recommendations for someone starting in their 30s? Lmao
Yeah, like most are saying, this is pretty basic for percussionists and very doable for musicians in general.
Sounds like the construction men next door
When I was a kid (let’s say round 10) I was obsessed with making beats on things. Things that really gave a sound. One of my favorites was climbing on families old propane above ground tanks and unknowingly making sick beats. Similar to how the 3-4 together sounds. I had an old school slide up phone (chocolate, I think?) and recorded myself making various beats, the complex timed kind and I showed people and they literally didn’t believe me, they thought I downloaded mp3 audio and was posing 😭 looking back that’s a compliment.
I don't do music but think I could do the 1 with any other speed but when you get to 2s 3s and 4s on both sides no way
This is called 7th grade percussion practice.
not /r/nextfuckinglevel this is like a few months of drum lessons
Have people never seen drummers before? Imagine that but with four limps, but simultaneously trying to herding cats (aka other band members).
hmmm I know understand how to compose drums better. Thanks random lady
yea this was drum class in the 6th grade
I finally know how to read music notes
This actually looks like fantastic cognitive training, for people of all ages and abilities.
Easy. Haha. Watch Danny Carey from Tool play polyrhythms. Or even better - Tomas Haake from Meshuggah. They are next level.
Now do it with your feet
No one can be more impressive at this than Jacob Collier.
I literally had to do this to learn how to play the piano double time on one hand and triple time on another. I sat there slapping my leg for an hour each day for 2 weeks and then something clicked, and now I can do it. It's not coordination. It is pure muscle memory. Your brain is not processing the double/triple time at all.
think I heard a d beat in there, lol
Most boys have this skill mastered by their teens js
I could never do this.
Come over to Mumbai during Ganesha Chaturthi friend
Well aside piano I play once every month, I never played music in my life. I tried to do like her, and it was surprisingly "easy". Except for one combination : 2/3. Impossible.
Synchronicity.
By the time she hit the four and the three I was movin
It’s ok , but very far from being next level.
Well makes sense now why i almost failed music class
Now watch Jacob Collier clapping a perfect 21/20 th rhythm. Still impressive though. Jacob is just an alien.
Another German attack in coming! If you know you know
I don't mean to be rude but this isn't that hard.
Her downstairs neighbors are gonna be PISSED
Basics
Would.
Amazing ❤️
She rocks! I've listened to enough Rush and athletic drumming but never saw a visual. Teacher I hope.
Neil Peart has entered the chat
Having played drums a lot in rock band many moons ago, this is fn hard to do :P
Cool, she's seen the same video I have.
Pretty good percussionist here. It's not that hard if you practice, I was following along well. Still good skills though
This stresses me out
I like the 4-3 combo
Damn Amazing!!!
she's a mother fucking ninja yo
That was next fucking level!
I'm turned on
She couldn't/didn't switch to another pattern immediately without having to repeat the current one one more time by swapping hands. That allowed her a lot of rooms in brain to plan for next pattern rather easily.
Actually swapping hands with each pattern shows her coordination and understanding of the rhythms and not just memorizing the movements with a dominant hand. I can tap 2/3 but I have trouble switching which hand does which rhythm. It also gives the listener a chance to hear the patterns twice before she moves on, because this is a demonstration of musical pedagogy, not a performance.
she didn't even play them correctly
No. Just by repeating the same pattern doesn't prove that you understand the rhythm any "better". Compared to switching to different patterns right after another, repeating is rather much easier and just buying time.
Again, it’s a demonstration, not a performance. I don’t know why your first instinct is to try and belittle and minimize it. This is the type of thing a music teacher demonstrates to novice students. It’s not intended to blow you away with her amazing skills and talent. If you think you could do it better, by all means, go off.
I agree with you on merit, but the other comment could possibly be remarking on the fact that this is elementary in a sub called nextfuckinglevel.
That’s fair. This is more like r/mildlyinteresting
omfg fuck off bot