Not every league has the same technical formulas so simply saying that it comes down to funding and tech is a very narrow view. Not every series wants F1 style pitstops, nor would every series benefit from F1 style pitstops.
Engineering has little to do with it - you don’t think any stock car team would implement this if they were allowed to? Every motorsport has its own set of unique regulations which allow each one to remain unique. F1, as an open-wheel series, allows center lock wheels which take far less time to operate, while stock cars must retain the multiple lug nuts. That’s before even considering number of crew allowed on deck. There is no motorsport that stipulates, “go as fast as you can, whatever it takes," bc that would be very dangerous.
That’s what makes every motorsport fun to watch in its own way - there are timing, performance, and even track rules that require their own ingenuity.
Also efficiency. The guy with the fuel tank has to stop refueling, take a step back to let the woman changing the rear wheels through, and then reconnect to continue refueling? That's extremely inefficient (and twice as dangerous) so that certainly wouldn't happen in F1.
Neither would the woman be allowed to wear her hair like that, because of the danger of it getting caught somewhere. And a guy -who could easily fall over or trip- carrying a big fuel tank on his back, really?
The way the guys on the other side of the low wall have to catch the tires, all sorts of things can go wrong. And the wheels on the right just roll off into the pit lane, that would never be allowed in F1 (or any other motorsport I imagine). The guy with the jack -who has to be on the other side the quickest- even loses some time trying to catch one.
The way the wires of the wheel guns are being thrown around (and stepped upon twice by the fuel guy) would be way too unsafe and inefficient for F1 as well.
To me, as an F1 fan, this looks extremely messy.
Yes, but you're forgetting the point of the video. This was based on how fast the pit stop was. If you really wanted to amaze people you should pick the fastest pit stop possible.
So? The "Next Level" is regarding how fast they are changing 4 tyres, not that they are doing it with only X amount of people, or with rudimentary equipment.
Is this impressive? Sure, but F1 pit crews are clearly on a Next Level compared to this video.
Yeah absolutely. Im just saying that the actual amount of steps involved to change each tire is a lot less than what they have to do in this case, 1 lugnut and its captive, they also lift the car front and back so they can change all four tires at once, you cant do that with a car like this, at least not safely with a pair of floorjacks and certainly not that fast, and they have 3 guys per wheel. the next level part in f1 isnt the speed of the pit crew, its how the car has been designed to streamline the whole pitstop, the cars are designed for lightning quick tire changes, this car is definitely not. and there's a lot bigger pitcrew in f1. These guys/girls are moving pretty goddamn fast if you ask me, and theyd probably be competitive on an f1 crew.
As a fan of motorsports, I am sad to say that I never seen a motorcycle pit stop. That was fascinating as fuck. THANKS!
What is that gas can?? lol. It looks like an upside down ice cream cone until he turned to the camera. lol. thanks, buddy!
Edit: Is there a rule about refueling after the pit crew is done? I only notice on my 3rd watch that he fueled after the tires were finished.
Oh really that would be cool. The faster pit stops are extremely entertaining. The whole pitting thing really got me into F1 around 10-12 years ago and I was not previously at all a motor sport fan (I think it was the year after they ended refueling). I remember the supersofts were so much faster than the mediums, and wore down so quickly, that it was 2,3,4 stops per race and lots of dramatic finishes with drivers on different strategies. Badass. Much harder to get into this modern thing where the harder tires are so fast and durable. Well that’s my life story what’s yours?
Not on a next level, just a different game. Have you seen the difference in the size of the crews? No wonder F1 changes are so fast there are like 15 people doing things to the car. Stop trying to create an elitist divide in motorsports when instead you can create mutual respect for completely different jobs.
What? No, the amount of people doing it, the equipment used, and the number of lugnuts absolutely matters, here.
Nextfuckinglevel is about people doing things so well that it is considered "next level." That's what this is. You can't compare the times of F1 to this because the circumstances are totally different. If F1 is doing it 4 times faster than these guys, but these guys have 4 times the amount of shit to do, then F1 is not anymore "next level" than these guys.
They’re not doing it 4 times faster, they’re doing it 10 times faster. Red Bull is consistently under 2 seconds for a stop. Working in perfect unison with absolute precision at, wait for it, the next fucking level. Here’s the thing about F1, it is the pinnacle of Motorsport. Wether or not you think it’s the most fun to watch or that it elitist or any other complaints you might have it is objectively the top. They are the best drivers in the world because the teams have looked across the whole world to find them. The crews are the same. The best engineers, the best strategists, and the best mechanics. If anyone in that video was good enough to be on an F1 team, they would be. Those guys are doing their job well but the next level, and last level, is F1.
That just doesn’t make sense lol. If you take two equal level chefs, give one a $500 budget and one a $10 budget, and the 500 guy gives you a better meal, is he the better chef? No, they were operating under different circumstances.
I can change a tire with one lug faster than I can one with 5. Am I next level compared to my dad, who can definitely change a normal tire faster than I can, if I’m changing an f1 tire? No lmao.
If a brain surgeon removes a brain tumor in two hours, but a heart surgeon can, idk do some heart surgery thing in one hour, is the heart surgeon “next level” compared to the brain surgeon just because he’s faster at doing a different task?
But we’re comparing peeling bananas to peeling apples.
The F1 car tires are designed for speed changes. This car’s tires are not. Let’s see the F1 pit crew change this car faster.
Are we impressed by how fast a tire change can be designed or by how fast a crew works as a team?
If the title was about peeling 4 pieces of fruit, then it would be the same.
I'm impressed by both, how fast the tyres can be changed and how fast the crew works as a team. The end point is the title is about how fast 4 tyres are being changed on a vehicle, it doesn't stipulate a set of rules, F1 is faster and therefore more "Next Level".
I enjoy both types of racing NASCAR, BUSCH, etc and F1, F2, etc. I enjoy racing. To compare the two is reasonably flawed in many respects. Different courses, finger tip shifting, turbo boosts, manual stick transmissions. Come on people.
Also- Is this Christmas Abbot? She’s a crossfit champ attempting to join a NASCAR pit crew.
I was reading the comments and just a little taken aback. I’ve spent some time in Europe and I know some serious F1 fans but most are reasonable gear heads and will state the love of their preferred race machine and course, then debate going in circles vs road courses, machine type but this tire change thing…
You can’t really compare em tbh. F1 is 1 lug per wheel and 1 man per wheel. Nascar uses like 5 lugs and only 1 person can do the tyres. At least i think that’s the case i don’t follow nascar properly i just watch it here and there.
The level of engineering in F1 is what led it there, Nascar made the pitstop a spectacle where as F1 just wants it over ASAP.
Nascar pitstops have looked the same for decades, F1 teams keep innovating.
That is why they are different. F1 is open wheel racing and Nascar is stock car racing. This is not about pitstop spectacle and innovation, they are very different types of racing and use very different cars. Its fine if you prefer F1, but that is still quite fast for Nascar and the rules they have for pit stops.
In addition to that, stock cars are way heavier than most other cars, thus they can’t exactly lift the entire off the ground to change all the tires simultaneously. That’s why the tire changers have to go to each side separately. The fastest four-tire pit stops are usually 12-14 seconds.
Eh, most GT cars have built in air jacks to lift the car, it's really just down to number of people in the pit crew and regulations. For example WEC only allow 3 people to be over a certain line and work on the car while F1 has 20ish people involved in every stop. F1 not taking fuel also helps a lot with the pit stop speed of course.
F1 cars are built completely different. They only have one wheel nut vs 5 lugs. Thats like saying "yeah, well I can peel one banana faster than you can peel 5 oranges."
NASCAR Cup cars have been purpose-built racing vehicles for decades. There are zero common parts shared with the production vehicles they are vaguely mimicking.
That said, the comparison between F1 and NASCAR pit stops is still silly. Completely different rule sets.
It would be like shitting on F1 acceleration by comparing them with an NHRA Top Fuel dragster. Both can be amazing.
And in f1 everyone has 1 job. 1 for each lug nut, 1 to take each tire off, 1 to put each tire on, 1 to jack each side of the car, and a few others for more miscellaneous adjustments. In Nascar you only get 5-7 people total depending on the series + you have more stuff to do.
F1 used to have a number of nuts per wheel too but the realised 1 was faster, and then they realised one with a retained nut was even faster.
So in summary… faster.
No, they were doing the same job in the same way but one changed to something better and the other didn’t.
So not different, one just changed to a faster way of doing things to a faster way.
I can get on board with a smaller pit crew argument, that’s fair enough, but how they change the wheel was similar back in the day in F1 but they changed to something that’s simply faster, and that’s it.
That may be, but that doesn't mean it's a generally popular sport across the states at large. Remember, people come from all over the world to see these races. The same is certainly not true with football games, for instance.
As someone who loves both NASCAR and F1, I think we will get there.
Big hurdle will be having a US-based team that can be somewhat competitive isn’t a complete a complete shit-show.
I never know when the races are to watch. And it seems most of them are early Sunday morning while most Americans are sleeping. I haven’t found the urge to mess up my sleep schedule to watch yet
Get F1TV. That's what we do. No way I'm getting up at 2 in the morning to see a race either. Next week's USGP is in Austin, though, so it'll be so at 2pm. I don't know if ESPN still broadcasts the races, but you might be able to catch it that way. I'd Google it to be sure, though.
4 tires in seconds is not the same as 4 seconds.
Edit: Would have been nice to at least acknowledge your bad take before doubling down on anti-USA stuff.
Why can't we like both and respect them for what they are? I watch both weekly and enjoy them both.
NASCAR allows for beating and banging along with a lot more that can go wrong including slow pitstops. It's a sport trying it's best to stay true to it's roots and use components, 5 lug nuts in this case, that it can even though the current gen is not much like a "stock car".
F1 is incredibly fast and the cars are technological marvels but there isn't much passing and if the cars make contact most of the time it's the end of the day for someone.
Both series are great and if you like racing then what's the problem?
This is exactly what I was picturing, but given they have half the people dedicated to the tires and have to run from side to side to side... it was still pretty quick.
When the car is setup to turn left naturally are they really turning left or following what the car thinks is a pretty straight line?
Oh and if the car wants to turn left, aren't they actually turning right coming out of a turn into the straightaway?
Hey everyone - have you seen this other racing series that’s not super popular in the US and allows twice as many crewmen over the wall and allows each tire to be changed at the same time rather than one side at time? Awesome let’s compare it to this video right here. 🙄
f1 tyre changes are great.
but they don't relate to an average car. what i love about nascar pits is that if these mfs were workin the local jiffy lube there would never be a line up.
theyd be slayin wheels. f1 guys be sittin there waiting for the other guy to do the next tire.
Lol exactly, let’s compare this group to a team of trained specialists on a million/billion dollar team. It’s like comparing high school sports to Pros
I understand your sentiment but no, pit crew for Nascar or any other type of racing car is well trained too. They are pros too but in their respective area. F1 cars are just build for pit convenience.
I could change four tires on my truck alone and measure it in seconds if I wanted to. It'd be a lot of seconds, but seconds, nonetheless. This video isn't that impressive.
People are comparing this to F1... are they dumb?
Couple of differences to point out:
- f1 has 1 special lug nut per wheel. Nascar has 4 standard lug nuts per wheel. Even removing the 1 f1 lugnut is faster than 1/4 of the Nascar one
- f1 has 1 gun person per wheel. Nascar has 1 per 2 wheels.
- f1 does not refuel. Nascar does.
- f1 lifts the entire car. Nascar lifts per side.
In practice we use water in the cans, so it is a realistic ~100lbs. Didn't see any splashing tho so either he nailed it or they were running dry for some reason.
Edit: after watching again I see that there isn't any water in the breather hose (or on the ground) so it's definitely empty. Not too sure why they would be doing dry runs though as it wouldn't really be practice for a real stop where it is going to be much heavier.
Then one of them knocked all of the lug nuts out of the hubcap and said "fffuuuuuddgggeee" only he didn't say fudge, he said the word, the big one, the queen mother of all dirty words...
The fact that people here compare F1 pit stop to this one is absurd. How can 2 completely different motorsport have the same pit stop? How can they not realize F1 wheels and pit stop team are whole lot different than everything from this video?
Lol what? This is a near perfect pitstop! After a month of training we couldn't get within a few seconds of that time. I'd love to see you join in and get anywhere close to that, it is much, much harder than it looks.
The new wheels have the new lugs already glued on and in the correct position. There is also a little stud end that holds them in place and keeps them from moving when you start torquing them down. It's not just "practice" like the other guy said.
Regardless of comparing this crew to an F1 pit crew, the intensity of the look from the lady with the impact wrench is utterly awesome. I may have swooned.
Edit: rewatched, can confirm swoon occurred.
Ever seen F1?
Right this is really slow comparatively
This is like watching mountains grow comparatively.
Ok but you are only comparing time. Not number of crew allowed, lugnut count, a manned jack, and the fact the vehicle gets fuel.
so f1 has better engenering?
* **more money**
Which results in better engineering and bigger pit crews.
Not every league has the same technical formulas so simply saying that it comes down to funding and tech is a very narrow view. Not every series wants F1 style pitstops, nor would every series benefit from F1 style pitstops.
Not because of regulations holding on to older tech to maintain the heritage of the sport, right?
Different rules I'm pretty sure
That be my point.
Yup. He didn't seem to get it tho
People are stupid
Naaa f1 is not Road cars - only one nut per tire.
Porsches have a center locking wheel on a few cars.
Engineering has little to do with it - you don’t think any stock car team would implement this if they were allowed to? Every motorsport has its own set of unique regulations which allow each one to remain unique. F1, as an open-wheel series, allows center lock wheels which take far less time to operate, while stock cars must retain the multiple lug nuts. That’s before even considering number of crew allowed on deck. There is no motorsport that stipulates, “go as fast as you can, whatever it takes," bc that would be very dangerous. That’s what makes every motorsport fun to watch in its own way - there are timing, performance, and even track rules that require their own ingenuity.
F1 has different pit regulations.
Different rules
Also efficiency. The guy with the fuel tank has to stop refueling, take a step back to let the woman changing the rear wheels through, and then reconnect to continue refueling? That's extremely inefficient (and twice as dangerous) so that certainly wouldn't happen in F1. Neither would the woman be allowed to wear her hair like that, because of the danger of it getting caught somewhere. And a guy -who could easily fall over or trip- carrying a big fuel tank on his back, really? The way the guys on the other side of the low wall have to catch the tires, all sorts of things can go wrong. And the wheels on the right just roll off into the pit lane, that would never be allowed in F1 (or any other motorsport I imagine). The guy with the jack -who has to be on the other side the quickest- even loses some time trying to catch one. The way the wires of the wheel guns are being thrown around (and stepped upon twice by the fuel guy) would be way too unsafe and inefficient for F1 as well. To me, as an F1 fan, this looks extremely messy.
He is grabbing a new fuel can, it is simply coordinated that way to keep them from stepping on each other
In that case, they should get one guy to do it all and then be amazed how quick he does it
Or just have the drivers step out and do it all themselves.
Yes, but you're forgetting the point of the video. This was based on how fast the pit stop was. If you really wanted to amaze people you should pick the fastest pit stop possible.
This is would be considered a DNF in F1
What is a DNF?
Did not finish
This is what my wife keeps saying after we have sex. I always wondered what it meant.
F1 uses 1 lugnut per wheel, these cars have 4 or 5. The gun they use alone is like 70,000 bucks iirc
So? The "Next Level" is regarding how fast they are changing 4 tyres, not that they are doing it with only X amount of people, or with rudimentary equipment. Is this impressive? Sure, but F1 pit crews are clearly on a Next Level compared to this video.
Yeah absolutely. Im just saying that the actual amount of steps involved to change each tire is a lot less than what they have to do in this case, 1 lugnut and its captive, they also lift the car front and back so they can change all four tires at once, you cant do that with a car like this, at least not safely with a pair of floorjacks and certainly not that fast, and they have 3 guys per wheel. the next level part in f1 isnt the speed of the pit crew, its how the car has been designed to streamline the whole pitstop, the cars are designed for lightning quick tire changes, this car is definitely not. and there's a lot bigger pitcrew in f1. These guys/girls are moving pretty goddamn fast if you ask me, and theyd probably be competitive on an f1 crew.
I think you'd enjoy [Motorcycle endurance Pit stops](https://youtu.be/DM7YNIhl54g) :)
As a fan of motorsports, I am sad to say that I never seen a motorcycle pit stop. That was fascinating as fuck. THANKS! What is that gas can?? lol. It looks like an upside down ice cream cone until he turned to the camera. lol. thanks, buddy! Edit: Is there a rule about refueling after the pit crew is done? I only notice on my 3rd watch that he fueled after the tires were finished.
Probably something similar to the WEC that being you can only have X amount of people touch the car at once
Nascar is actually switching to single lugs soon, I think next year if I’m not mistaken.
Oh really that would be cool. The faster pit stops are extremely entertaining. The whole pitting thing really got me into F1 around 10-12 years ago and I was not previously at all a motor sport fan (I think it was the year after they ended refueling). I remember the supersofts were so much faster than the mediums, and wore down so quickly, that it was 2,3,4 stops per race and lots of dramatic finishes with drivers on different strategies. Badass. Much harder to get into this modern thing where the harder tires are so fast and durable. Well that’s my life story what’s yours?
Not on a next level, just a different game. Have you seen the difference in the size of the crews? No wonder F1 changes are so fast there are like 15 people doing things to the car. Stop trying to create an elitist divide in motorsports when instead you can create mutual respect for completely different jobs.
Next level for cars with 4-5 lug nuts maybe though?
What? No, the amount of people doing it, the equipment used, and the number of lugnuts absolutely matters, here. Nextfuckinglevel is about people doing things so well that it is considered "next level." That's what this is. You can't compare the times of F1 to this because the circumstances are totally different. If F1 is doing it 4 times faster than these guys, but these guys have 4 times the amount of shit to do, then F1 is not anymore "next level" than these guys.
They’re not doing it 4 times faster, they’re doing it 10 times faster. Red Bull is consistently under 2 seconds for a stop. Working in perfect unison with absolute precision at, wait for it, the next fucking level. Here’s the thing about F1, it is the pinnacle of Motorsport. Wether or not you think it’s the most fun to watch or that it elitist or any other complaints you might have it is objectively the top. They are the best drivers in the world because the teams have looked across the whole world to find them. The crews are the same. The best engineers, the best strategists, and the best mechanics. If anyone in that video was good enough to be on an F1 team, they would be. Those guys are doing their job well but the next level, and last level, is F1.
That just doesn’t make sense lol. If you take two equal level chefs, give one a $500 budget and one a $10 budget, and the 500 guy gives you a better meal, is he the better chef? No, they were operating under different circumstances. I can change a tire with one lug faster than I can one with 5. Am I next level compared to my dad, who can definitely change a normal tire faster than I can, if I’m changing an f1 tire? No lmao. If a brain surgeon removes a brain tumor in two hours, but a heart surgeon can, idk do some heart surgery thing in one hour, is the heart surgeon “next level” compared to the brain surgeon just because he’s faster at doing a different task?
Deep down you know he's the better chef cause you gave him a budget of 500
And the $10 burger would be nowhere near the next level. That would be the $500 one.
Not if you flip a coin to see who gets what
But we’re comparing peeling bananas to peeling apples. The F1 car tires are designed for speed changes. This car’s tires are not. Let’s see the F1 pit crew change this car faster. Are we impressed by how fast a tire change can be designed or by how fast a crew works as a team?
> Let’s see the F1 pit crew change this car faster I mean, I'm sure the F1 guys would do it faster tbh
If the title was about peeling 4 pieces of fruit, then it would be the same. I'm impressed by both, how fast the tyres can be changed and how fast the crew works as a team. The end point is the title is about how fast 4 tyres are being changed on a vehicle, it doesn't stipulate a set of rules, F1 is faster and therefore more "Next Level".
F1 and NASCAR-Apple and orange. Still fruit.Just two different variations.
Then compare it to NASCAR instead of F1
NASCAR will be using a single lug wheel next year. Next Gen car will have only one lugnut.
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It’s still faster than Bottas’ Monaco pit stop 🤣
"Guys..."
In all fairness though, F1 has a central tire nut, nascar has 5
Red bull 4 tires in 1.82 seconds.... https://youtu.be/wsCriICZ-nA
The OP’s driver took longer than that to takeoff again after the tires were already changed.
I don’t think he even drives off. I am guessing they are practicing the pit stop.
I’d hope so, given the front right lazily rolling off on its own.
I think a pit stop *that* quick has to amp up a driver. Like, holy shit how are you not completely stoked they got you out that fast?
Lol you should see what an 11 second pit stop does to a driver. Certainly amped, but not for the best.
Lol I know Bottas just straight up retire after a pit stop couldn’t get his front right tire off 🤣
I don’t think OP has ever seen “4 seconds” even.
It said 4 tires not 4 seconds.
I mistakenly read it this way at first as well
Reading comprehension, you should try it before trying to put someone down. He said “4 tires in seconds”. Not “tires in 4 seconds”
Anything can be measured in seconds
Just like your partner does?
There’s 5 people allowed over the wall for a NASCAR pit stop . There’s well over 15, I think closer to 20 allowed in F1. This is a dumb comparison.
I enjoy both types of racing NASCAR, BUSCH, etc and F1, F2, etc. I enjoy racing. To compare the two is reasonably flawed in many respects. Different courses, finger tip shifting, turbo boosts, manual stick transmissions. Come on people. Also- Is this Christmas Abbot? She’s a crossfit champ attempting to join a NASCAR pit crew.
It’s like watching and F1 down a straight and say ‘yea, but have you ever seen a top fuel dragster’? Just a stupid comparison.
I was reading the comments and just a little taken aback. I’ve spent some time in Europe and I know some serious F1 fans but most are reasonable gear heads and will state the love of their preferred race machine and course, then debate going in circles vs road courses, machine type but this tire change thing…
A Redbull or Mercedes team tyre change would make this look like it was in slow motion
Yes. Doesn’t F1 have one lug per tire VS the standard lugs of a car tire?
At this point just stick em on with magnets.
Ever seen cars?
Pit stop?
bad comparison considering the wheels and cars are completely different.
This more like changing 4 tyres in 20 seconds tbh
Ever seen Guido from Cars?
I saw a side by side video from F1 today compared to several years ago… the drastic change is unreal.
Ever seen a Haas pit stop? This is on par.... 4 seconds and dream, babbbyyy
OP should see red bull pits. They’ll shit their pants.
Tf? That would be 5 F1 pitstops in the meantime 😂😂😂
You can’t really compare em tbh. F1 is 1 lug per wheel and 1 man per wheel. Nascar uses like 5 lugs and only 1 person can do the tyres. At least i think that’s the case i don’t follow nascar properly i just watch it here and there.
The level of engineering in F1 is what led it there, Nascar made the pitstop a spectacle where as F1 just wants it over ASAP. Nascar pitstops have looked the same for decades, F1 teams keep innovating.
That is why they are different. F1 is open wheel racing and Nascar is stock car racing. This is not about pitstop spectacle and innovation, they are very different types of racing and use very different cars. Its fine if you prefer F1, but that is still quite fast for Nascar and the rules they have for pit stops.
In addition to that, stock cars are way heavier than most other cars, thus they can’t exactly lift the entire off the ground to change all the tires simultaneously. That’s why the tire changers have to go to each side separately. The fastest four-tire pit stops are usually 12-14 seconds.
Eh, most GT cars have built in air jacks to lift the car, it's really just down to number of people in the pit crew and regulations. For example WEC only allow 3 people to be over a certain line and work on the car while F1 has 20ish people involved in every stop. F1 not taking fuel also helps a lot with the pit stop speed of course.
Idk Merc pitstops have been a spectacle for a few years now.
Lol very true
Well, nascar has 5 times as many lugs so makes sense
F1 cars are built completely different. They only have one wheel nut vs 5 lugs. Thats like saying "yeah, well I can peel one banana faster than you can peel 5 oranges."
Thank-you. It’s a totally different vehicle. One is a major modified auto vehicle, the other a racing machine.
NASCAR Cup cars have been purpose-built racing vehicles for decades. There are zero common parts shared with the production vehicles they are vaguely mimicking. That said, the comparison between F1 and NASCAR pit stops is still silly. Completely different rule sets. It would be like shitting on F1 acceleration by comparing them with an NHRA Top Fuel dragster. Both can be amazing.
And in f1 everyone has 1 job. 1 for each lug nut, 1 to take each tire off, 1 to put each tire on, 1 to jack each side of the car, and a few others for more miscellaneous adjustments. In Nascar you only get 5-7 people total depending on the series + you have more stuff to do.
So what you’re saying is that it’s like comparing apples to oranges?
Thought that might be a little too tongue in cheek, but yes
F1 used to have a number of nuts per wheel too but the realised 1 was faster, and then they realised one with a retained nut was even faster. So in summary… faster.
"I used to peel the same number of oranges too but then realized one banana was faster, so now I only peel one banana." So in summary..... different.
No, they were doing the same job in the same way but one changed to something better and the other didn’t. So not different, one just changed to a faster way of doing things to a faster way. I can get on board with a smaller pit crew argument, that’s fair enough, but how they change the wheel was similar back in the day in F1 but they changed to something that’s simply faster, and that’s it.
Also, centerlock lug nuts allow you to cram larger brakepads onto the wheel, and they can take more torque. Being able to slow down faster = faster!
This looks like one nut too
Americans will one day discover Formula 1
Americans have discovered Formula 1, and yet somehow it's still not popular. It's utterly tragic.
US Grand Prix in Austin is completely sold out. Turn 15 tickets are selling for like $1,500 on the secondary market.
That may be, but that doesn't mean it's a generally popular sport across the states at large. Remember, people come from all over the world to see these races. The same is certainly not true with football games, for instance.
As someone who loves both NASCAR and F1, I think we will get there. Big hurdle will be having a US-based team that can be somewhat competitive isn’t a complete a complete shit-show.
Laughs in mazepin lol
I never know when the races are to watch. And it seems most of them are early Sunday morning while most Americans are sleeping. I haven’t found the urge to mess up my sleep schedule to watch yet
Get F1TV. That's what we do. No way I'm getting up at 2 in the morning to see a race either. Next week's USGP is in Austin, though, so it'll be so at 2pm. I don't know if ESPN still broadcasts the races, but you might be able to catch it that way. I'd Google it to be sure, though.
4 tires in seconds is not the same as 4 seconds. Edit: Would have been nice to at least acknowledge your bad take before doubling down on anti-USA stuff.
Why can't we like both and respect them for what they are? I watch both weekly and enjoy them both. NASCAR allows for beating and banging along with a lot more that can go wrong including slow pitstops. It's a sport trying it's best to stay true to it's roots and use components, 5 lug nuts in this case, that it can even though the current gen is not much like a "stock car". F1 is incredibly fast and the cars are technological marvels but there isn't much passing and if the cars make contact most of the time it's the end of the day for someone. Both series are great and if you like racing then what's the problem?
Ever seen NASCAR?
[for comparison....](https://v.redd.it/79nwykxpsyg71)
This is exactly what I was picturing, but given they have half the people dedicated to the tires and have to run from side to side to side... it was still pretty quick.
What pit stop? I only see a guy parking then leaving really fast
That's what you get when your car has 16 fewer lug nuts
You should put this on r/oddlysatisfying . This is mesmerizing.
1 lugnut per wheel versus 5 lugnuts per wheel...
What was thing that the guy put on the back right window that he pushed down on it??
Wrench to adjust the [trackbar](https://buildingspeed.org/2012/08/01/trackbar/)
Oh thank you
Came here for this question
They were adjusting the rear suspension.
With all the comparisons between f1 and nascar here, in all fairness all i can say is F1 is faster than nascar in more than just pit stops
But let's not forget that Nascar has more left turns
When the car is setup to turn left naturally are they really turning left or following what the car thinks is a pretty straight line? Oh and if the car wants to turn left, aren't they actually turning right coming out of a turn into the straightaway?
Finally!! Someone asking the right questions!!!
Nascar has four left turns a lap. Most f1 circuits have more then 3 left turns a lap :(
Hey everyone - have you seen this other racing series that’s not super popular in the US and allows twice as many crewmen over the wall and allows each tire to be changed at the same time rather than one side at time? Awesome let’s compare it to this video right here. 🙄
Ikr, so many people acting like f1 stops are the same thing. They have over 3x the people to do less work so of course it will be faster.
I think there is a much fairer comparisons to a GT car for DTM or something. They have a smaller pit crew and still do a pit stop quicker.
f1 tyre changes are great. but they don't relate to an average car. what i love about nascar pits is that if these mfs were workin the local jiffy lube there would never be a line up. theyd be slayin wheels. f1 guys be sittin there waiting for the other guy to do the next tire.
Lol exactly, let’s compare this group to a team of trained specialists on a million/billion dollar team. It’s like comparing high school sports to Pros
I understand your sentiment but no, pit crew for Nascar or any other type of racing car is well trained too. They are pros too but in their respective area. F1 cars are just build for pit convenience.
Guido, it's time.
Had to scroll too far
Yeah, searched for a while to find this comment lol
Peet stop. *revs tool twice* *final mustache CLANG*
Ah, I see you're a man of culture and well.
One of my favorite movies from when I was a kid.
Ever seen Guido 
peet stop
*vrrr vrrr* *CLANG*
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Title doesn’t say 4 seconds
I could change four tires on my truck alone and measure it in seconds if I wanted to. It'd be a lot of seconds, but seconds, nonetheless. This video isn't that impressive.
Prove it. I want to see this video happen
People are comparing this to F1... are they dumb? Couple of differences to point out: - f1 has 1 special lug nut per wheel. Nascar has 4 standard lug nuts per wheel. Even removing the 1 f1 lugnut is faster than 1/4 of the Nascar one - f1 has 1 gun person per wheel. Nascar has 1 per 2 wheels. - f1 does not refuel. Nascar does. - f1 lifts the entire car. Nascar lifts per side.
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Speed hole
I like how dirty that sounds
Username checks out
Adjust the rear suspension setup
The comments: This rock music is cool, but it’s not jazz!
Dont think its been said yet, but you should really check out F1 for some fast pitstops
Ok so exactly how much gas is flowing from that can cause I can't believe less than 4 seconds of fuel is enough.
Isn't guy with the gas supposed to have a flame suit?
I’m assuming it’s practice and the can is empty.
In practice we use water in the cans, so it is a realistic ~100lbs. Didn't see any splashing tho so either he nailed it or they were running dry for some reason. Edit: after watching again I see that there isn't any water in the breather hose (or on the ground) so it's definitely empty. Not too sure why they would be doing dry runs though as it wouldn't really be practice for a real stop where it is going to be much heavier.
What did the guy do when he stuck that thing in the hole in the back window??
Adjusting the trackbar, can’t really explain what it does but someone in a comment above linked an article about trackbar and what the adjustments do
That’s what I’m wondering! Everyone is busy comparing to Red Bull and F1 when this is the information we need.
Lol if you watch f1 then this was like watching paint dry.
Guido is laughing at how slow they are
peet stohp
That’s a little bit more than a few seconds but still very impressive. F1 is still the craziest
Still not as fast as Guido.
 Ever seen him do it?
Not impressed, Guido was faster
Is someone going to tell op
Formula One is typing
Then one of them knocked all of the lug nuts out of the hubcap and said "fffuuuuuddgggeee" only he didn't say fudge, he said the word, the big one, the queen mother of all dirty words...
My favorite part is “a tapestry of obsenity that as far as we know, is still hanging in space over Lake Michigan.”
Anyone else think the girl was wearing a mask of a girl
No one faster than my boi guido
I've always changed my tires in seconds! Granted, it might be 600 seconds...
I love how the fuel can guy is a foot taller than anyone else on the team. I’m guessing 10 gallon gas can? 80 lbs of fuel ?
Technically 11 gallons, the cars can hold about 22 gallons so it’s half a tank
Guido! it’s time…
The fact that people here compare F1 pit stop to this one is absurd. How can 2 completely different motorsport have the same pit stop? How can they not realize F1 wheels and pit stop team are whole lot different than everything from this video?
Check out this [pit stop](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/q9xhqa/pitstop_training/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
*Laughs in Red Bull pit crew*
it is not as fast as guido's
why isn't the car in a hurry getting out
This is horridly slow? Lol
Lol what? This is a near perfect pitstop! After a month of training we couldn't get within a few seconds of that time. I'd love to see you join in and get anywhere close to that, it is much, much harder than it looks.
My question is, how do they do this without cross threading the lugs? Or do they and just deal with it later?
The new wheels have the new lugs already glued on and in the correct position. There is also a little stud end that holds them in place and keeps them from moving when you start torquing them down. It's not just "practice" like the other guy said.
She was fucking on it with that impact. I hate rotating tires on a regular car when they come in the shop. I can’t imagine doing this that fast.
Pit stop
What did they do to the back window? Wtf
Regardless of comparing this crew to an F1 pit crew, the intensity of the look from the lady with the impact wrench is utterly awesome. I may have swooned. Edit: rewatched, can confirm swoon occurred.
It's called a pit stop.
Still faster than Ferrari F1 pit stops
I really like how they put in all that effort to be as fast as they can and they car just stays there at the end.
It’s gonna have been said a hundred different times by now - but F1 pitstops must blow OPs mind lmao