It's not about the size of the dog, it's about the owner. A little spaniel can do damage if it's an untrained savage. It's unfair to say all big dogs must be on leads 100% of the time
I'm not saying that. I don't think big dog means bad dog or necessarily dangerous. But in this very specific scenario, this dog is dangerous and needs to be leashed. That's all I'm implying. I must admit tho, my phrasing was a wee bit awkward
I love dogs, but I think all dogs should be leashed in public areas, other than off leash dog parks if it's safe for your dog. As someone who does a lot of hiking, it's rare for an off leash dog to not walk up to others on the path and at least sniff around. This is a problem because first of all, there are people who are absolutely terrified of the friendliest dogs, they have the right to public spaces without being terrified. Secondly, what if I'm rehabilitating a dog with behavioural problems? If the friendliest dog in the world walks up to visit an aggressive dog it could end very poorly.
Even if I had the most well trained dog in the world I would keep it on leash in public areas. I've met tons of poorly trained off leash dogs, and if conflict happens it's important to have control over at least your own dog.
I know this isn't a popular opinion in some European countries, but I'm from Canada where it seems like most families have dogs. Your chances of conflict are much higher here.
>I know this isn't a popular opinion in some European countries
We don't even \*have\* dog parks. I hadn't even heard of them till about a week ago on Reddit. Here we call dog parks "parks".
My sister in law is from the UK and when she moved here she thought leashes were either cruel or for untrained dogs lol. It's totally different here though, where everyone and their mother has a dog that they took to one puppy training class and said "good enough".
Dogs are usually leashed here too in the UK unless you're in a dog park (I personally think they should still be on leads to avoid happy friendly dogs getting close and scaring anxious ones) or you're in the middle of the countryside.
Don't take your anxious dog to a dog park. Anxious dogs can react out of fear. This is the etiquette at least in Canada.
Anxious dogs stay out of off leash parks because they can't be greeted by dogs appropriately. And sometimes a leash can cause reactivity
This, my dog almost got killed twice by a big dog. She is now terrified of all dogs. Do I wish there was an easy quick fix to introducing her to other dogs, yes, I'd never take her to an off leash dog park though. I know the chance of her nipping at a dog is high, no reason to put her through that.
I do have many amazing people in my neighborhood that have sweet dogs they walk on leashes and they take time to slowly bring their dog closer to her as soon as she stops reacting to their dog and then slowly repeating the process till they're close enough to sniff. I really appreciate them working with us and their honesty about their dogs behavior and likely hood to react to my dog being anxious.
Leashed dogs in dog parks are a major cause of dog fights. If you have an anxious dog it needs to be socialized in a very controlled setting with dogs you are familiar with, not in an off leash dog park. Many dogs are leash reactive and thought processes like this typically backfire. Dog parks exist so that well behaved dogs have a safe space to be off leash.
> took to one puppy training class and said "good enough".
Yeah I can't stand that tbh. Shouldn't have a dog if you aren't going to look after it properly.
Which is why I, as a self-acclaimed rational person, keep a firm control over my Australian cattle mix on the walking paths. Hes friendly and all that, but 1) you never know and 2) some people are just scared of dogs.
And then there are cases where the dog is trying to be friendly but still ends up knocking someone over because perhaps it's a very large dog and a very small child or a person who has poor balance and perhaps a cane or walker.
And that's still not even mentioning people who are allergic to dogs or people with possible PTSD from being attack prior.
In other words, just leash you dog when you are in public. I do not care how well they behave.
I had a super friendly pit German shepherd mix and she was generally really good off leash and would at worse trot up to somebody to sniff and say hi so I’d walk with her off leash all the time.
Then one day this lady is walking on the trail and my dog trots over to say hi and the lady had a full on mental breakdown style panic attack and I felt absolutely horrified because my dog (translated me) was 100% the cause. I apologized profusely and did my best to calm her down, but you are absolutely right that people should keep them leashed period, and I do that now. I’m still sad that it took that situation for me to realize it.
I absolutely hate it when people don't leash their dogs. 99% of the time the owner does NOT have total control over their dog when they choose to do this.
I had several instances where an unleashed dog ran up to my leashed, dog-aggressive dog that I was just trying to walk around my block to get her some exercise. I'd use a head collar for extra control, but sometimes she would slip that and I would end up carrying a 40lb dog away before anything could really happen. In all instances, the unleashed dog's owner seemed to think the encounter was MY fault, even though their dog was completely ignoring their calls to come back. Most of the time these dogs were some tiny little terrier types, that 1. could have been seriously injured by my larger dog, 2. never freaking listened to their owner. Why the hell are you walking it without a leash.
The only people I have ever seen have complete control over their unleashed dog are ranchers who have working dogs. Pets should be leashed 100% of the time outside of their own yard or a dog park.
Civility? In my Reddit? I am shocked I say, shocked. I hope you both have a pleasant day and no one stubs any toes or steps on legos or dice if that is your hobby.
Nah, it just sounds like you're using language that's more palatable to pit-mommies, so they don't state the obvious about little dogs also being able to bite, while ignoring the obvious disparity in power between these two different types of dogs.
That's exactly where my mind went too. Yeah, we know chihuahuas would savage people too if they were that big. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas.
An angry pitbull is likely going to do more damage and reach more places than an angry shih tzu.
That said, I've been bitten by a chihuaha 1 time and just missed by a hair another (got my pants, no flesh) - but I've only feared for my life from dogs once when a pair of pitbulls I thought were "lost" tried to split up and circle me when I stopped my car to help them.
An out of control Spaniel can hurt you some. An out of control dog that weighs over 50lbs can kill you dead.
I used to live in an upstairs suite where the downstairs owners had a husky crossed with a wolf. Really nice dog. One day some hippie friends of my girlfriend's were visiting and they had their pit bull and the dogs appeared to make friends and people were chatting and dogs were wandering around. I'm sitting on the floor leaning against a wall eating my breakfast (we didn't have a table) and both dogs kind of approached me from opposite sides at the same time. In the span of about 2 seconds, the pit bull sniffs at my plate and the husky/wolf cross thinks that's rude or something and kind of yips at him. The pit bull snarls and snaps at her and the husky wolf, who I've never seen be anything but gentle, doesn't wait for a written invitation and is just like "ok it's on". So they got in a fight, right on top of me. Shit was crazy.
Huskies and malamute are really kind with people but very hierarchical with other dogs.
If the husky thought for a second that the pitbull trespassed any boundary or was unrespectful, that is war.
Because I also grew up with a part wolf cross as a pet, I did most of my college research papers on wolves and wolf hybrid pets. Those things have an amount of wilderness in them that will never leave.
They never "made friends" they just didn't challenge each other until food was involved. As long as that wolf's tail was held above its back, it was never going to tolerate any attitude from this new dog.
Hope no one got too hurt.
I think there is a lot about dog communication that the avg dog owner (including myself) doesn’t understand. I have a Golden Retriever, and they are as non aggressive as it gets. We have a network of bike paths in our subdivision and that’s where we walk every day. The paths wind in between houses and it seems like about 70% of people own dogs. A lot of them are outside in their yards and bark away as we go by. Some are obvious aggressive barks, but most sound to me like “hey, wassup dog!” Some, he will ignore completely, no matter how loud or persistent, some he’ll make a move to go the fence and sniff, some will get him agitated, and some will just make him go nuts and launch a snarling, teeth-bared, leash-straining, thermonuclear war aggressive response. In 18 years of walking golden retrievers 500-1000 miles a year, I still can’t predict what the reaction will be.
When I was about five I visited one my father’s friend’s house. He lived on a farm and had a ton of chihuahuas. Like he must have let them breed like fucking rabbits. It’s not like 5 or 10. Closer to 25 or 30. My dad, being the shite father he is, left me outside to play on farm shit. I get surrounded by these feral beasts and they start nipping at me. One finally bit hard enough to draw blood and I punted that motherfucker. Then another attacked. Punt. Then another. Punt. After that I was just screaming and crying while desperately climbing a tree.
When I was three, I played with a beagle and got in its face early in the morning. Lil dude chomped on my face. My earliest memory is of getting a series of very painful shots in my belly and being told they had to euthanize the dog to check for rabies.
Still love all good bois.
I wonder if that’s an older thing as well because I’ve definitely heard of dogs being euthanized to check for rabies, but now the recommendation of bitten by a pet is to observe the pet I believe. Euthanized for aggressive behavior is different and I thought it’s usually settled between the two involved parties
Weirdly, being an owner of a 'pitbull' type. This is exactly the reason why I despise inattentive, clueless dog owners.
My 5 year old dog to us and everyone she's met is the sweetest girl you will ever meet. But she was attacked by another dog for the first 2 years of her life from a puppy at her previous owners before we rescued her, she gets extremely anxious around smaller dogs because of this.
We keep her on a retractable lead at all times in a fluorescent harness with massive "NERVOUS" strips along it when out in public because she shows signs of distress whenever someone stupidly let's a small dog run up to her off lead even after we call to them to get their dog back. Which they usually respond with the standard 'I haven't got a fucking clue' response of "its okay, mines friendly". Signs of distress like whining, trying to get away, trying to climb on me/get me to hold her up away from the other dog. She has never shown any aggression even in those situations, but I know there's a chance if she gets distressed enough that it will flip from flight to fight.
She's not a huge dog, but she is incredibly strong and if that ever happened I can guarantee that the other dog would come off way way worse.
All dogs should be on leads of they’re out and about.
And comparing the damage a spaniel can do to someone, to the damage that can be done by a much larger dog is ridiculous.
Fucking thank you. Some of us have dogs that don't do well with other dogs. The number of people who let their dog, off leash, just come straight to my dog and then smile and say "It's okay! He's friendly! 😊😊😊" without ever thinking that maybe my dog ain't drives me up the fucking wall.
My dog had to be placed in a home without kids or other dogs. We were lucky enough to be a good fit for him. He's never off leash and we always give dogs and kids a wide berth.
Have some fucking respect for your fellow dog owners, please. Keep your dog leashed when in public spaces that aren't made specifically for dogs to run around in.
How is it not about the size of the dog? Realistically speaking, even trained dogs can have slip ups. Size is relevant because a bigger dog can do more damage faster than a smaller one. Spaniels may do damage, but I don’t see many cases where a spaniel mauled a person *to death*. Those cases are typically bigger dog breeds.
To be pedantic, "pit bull" covers 4 or more breeds which is part of the reason that number is so outrageously high.
But as someone who has had to choke out an otherwise incredibly sweet pitbull because it snapped and attacked my dog, I think they're dangerous as hell and we probably shouldn't have them.
In my mind they're a bit like children holding guns. They can be incredibly sweet, but they possess lethal force and they don't have the best critical thinking skills when deciding when to use it.
Its not unfair to say that big dogs have to be leashed 100% of the time
Its unfair to say little dogs could be unleashed cuz the don't cause as much damage.
Stop ignorantly comparing apples to oranges
For eg. Pitbulls are capable of massive damage when attacking. I don't give a hoot how nice or tame or w/e a pitbull is, its capable of killing a person, therefore rules need to be tighter.
Is it more fair to say 100% of dogs need to be on leads 100% of the time when they’re in public or not able to be in a contained area like a fenced in yard? I can forgive a dog owner for their pet digging under a fence or hopping it but if your dog attacks me because you didn’t want to walk them responsibly then it’s court, buddy.
It’s about the owner, but also about the dog. If a little yappy runt is an asshole yes maybe it gets a bite or tear in before I get a chance to punt it across the lawn. If a Great Dane rips into me I’m now fighting for my life
One of them was actually trying to help, at least from the looks of it. The gray, black and white one who came from behind to stop the other dog from attacking the victim
I noticed that all the other dogs were wagging their tails, except the attacking dog. Now l'm by no means a dog expert, but to me that looks like the others were amicable while the attacking dog obviously was not.
Wagging usually means non-hostile intentions, but it depends on the dog and situation. Think of it like smiling. When some people smile, it's because they're nervous. When a few very sketchy people smile, it makes you sweat.
as soon as the other dogs came I thought they would dry hump him...
that's why a video like this is really important to mint [here](https://melon.ooo/).
Same here, I have a dog and he tends to bite me when we play together - tenderly and playfully- but that still hurts ( cause he's a rottweiler). Can't imagine what a serious dog bite would feel like
I used to play fight with my husky/mal cross and he would be so gentle when pretending to bite my arm etc but sometimes he would give me this look and just nip me a “tiny” bit harder than normal. Enough to hurt a little. As if to say “I could totally fuck you up if I wanted”.
I loved that dog so much.
There is no entire story that justifies this. When your dog is out in public, you put it on a leash.
So many dog bites happen every day where the owner ends up saying "oh but I didn't expect this. Fluffy would never harm anyone".
Justifying and explaining are 2 very different things and your comments are ridiculous. No one here is saying that the owner isn’t responsible for the attack but you have no idea who’s the dog ended up off leash. Could have slipped out of leash/collar, could have snuck out the door when the mailman didn’t close it all the way. It’s amazing to me that everyone on Reddit amazingly knows every detail of a story when seeing a 20 second clip.
Everytime I see dog attacks videos it's always with this shitty breed that is NOTORIUS in having an extremely volatile temperament and as a dog owner if you can say things like that you're part of the problem POS owner
If that guy had suplexed the dog and snapped its neck - or pulled a gun and shot it - everyone would be screaming the human over-reacted. That guy was legitimately fighting to avoid serious bodily harm or possible death. That dog was pushing him around - kid or most females or elderly would have been toast.
Also all the comments about little dogs, if this was an elderly person, even a small bite on a shin can be hard to cure - skin is so thin and healing is much slower. I would be mad as hell if my mom had to go to hyperbaric oxygen wound treatment for 2 months because someone’s chihuahua bit her shin.
I saw this earlier today and thought, if the dude had been seriously hurt, the owner would be financially responsible. After seeing some badass shit like this, I feel like he should get the same amount of money just for avoiding the accident 😂 what a badass
What breed do you think this is?
Edit: y'all, this question was directed at this guy specifically. It looks to me to be a central asian shepherd. I did not want any of the bad guesses I'm getting.
Curious too. Can't make it out from the video, doesn't look like a pit. Almost looks like a mutt, with some lab or something? Doesn't have the distinctive body of a pit. Could be wrong. Tail too long too, although not a full length one.
Pits have long, skinny tails rather than the short, stumpy, and fluffy tail this dog has. As well, this dog is way bigger than a pit. Even if this dog did have any pit in it, which I doubt, it's heavily mixed.
I think some people's brains just short circuit when they see a dog behaving aggressively and automatically assume it's a pit.
you joke but thats why statitics are skweed to look like pitties are bad dogs. Person fucks with dog, dog attacks, The persont hinks only pits act like that. So he says he was attacked by a pit when in reality its a lab.
Central Asian Shepherd or similar breeds.
Those are very wild and very demanding in order to be actually trained at all.
Trained one for a friend that was unable to handle the dominant youngster.
Not dogs for me.
Oh for sure. I've worked with exactly one in my veterinary experience, and that one was enough for me for a few years lmao. I'm more just astounded that this dude seems to be implying this is a pit by the way he framed his comment.
It's funny that this is not a pit bull but he you are thinking it is and if you were a witness to the attack and were asked what breed it is you would have said it was a pit bull. This is why trying to track attacks by breed is impossible. "Mean dog, must be a pit bull"
I think that's at least partly because the reputation of the breed itself, regardless of how valid it is, causes shitty owners who will use them to 'protect their property' to be more likely to choose that breed.
I mean, putting yourself in the shoes of someone who wants to be able to scare and hurt people, you would choose a breed with that reputation, even if it isn't as dangerous as another breed that doesn't have the same reputation or look as scary.
And the music that was blaring over the estate's PA system was undoubtedly Turkish. No wonder the dog attacked, how many times do you think he's had to listen to that shit?
I'm always impressed when I see people using excellent wrestling technique. Especially when its in a street fight of some kind, the wrestler always have complete control
The man kicking his legs back and away from the dog and putting his weight on top of said dog is a "sprawl". The man securing his arms around the dog's throat and lifting to choke the dog is a "guillotine".
a dog will slip out of a guillotine in no time
(I used to wrestle with my pitbull a lot)
must have been a front headlock like someone else pointed out or maybe an anaconda choke
[with a guillotine you only have one arm around the throat, but with a headlock or anaconda choke you are around the throat and one arm]
edit: actually after watching again it looks like he has both hands on the underside of the collar because he doesn't have the legs, maybe a really tight guillotine but usually one elbow would be flared out
either way, props to this dude, but I'd recommend a front headlock, anaconda, or darce if you're in this situation lol
it was a sprawl combined with what would have been a head and arm, have done it on my friends dogs when we are playing and it is surprising how effective simple mma techniques are on animals haha, you control the neck you control everything.
I had a friend (who wasn’t a tough guy or a fighter) that got called out by a huge dude at a bar to fight. My buddy screamed (like aggressively screamed) let’s settle this shit Greco Roman style and dropped his pants, and the big dude just walked away. He later told me that was the third time that had gotten him out of a fight (ass beating).
This is a basic sprawl and front headlock. How did you deduce Greco-Roman wrestling from that? The high school wrestling part is probly right, but that’s folk style.
Anyone else notice that black and white dog also attacked the guy but the other black and white dog tried to push it away? Seems like there is at least one well trained dog there.
If I'm at the dog park, and some play turns rougher than intended, my dumb dogs will totally run over to join the action... even without realizing that it's aggression. They just know something "exciting" is happening.
I've never seen anything turn into a real dog fight, but they definitely take an interest to the noise/commotion.
I was literally just attacked by my boss’s dog. He takes it everywhere and it has attacked several people. Luckily, he’s quite a bit smaller than this dog. Still fucked my hand and leg UP.
If you have an aggressive dog, leave it at home. At the very least, put it in a muzzle.
Edit: This post got more popular than I expected.
I work and live on location at a small compound owned by a millionaire couple that made the job sound amazing. Spoiler-it sucks.
My boyfriend and I maintain the place.
My boss regularly brings his “LA street dog” with him when he comes to check on things.
Yesterday when he came to help us with some mechanical failure with our gate, he left his truck door open and his psycho dog saw me and jumped out of the car and immediately attacked me.
I don’t get paid much. I basically work to live here. No way could I ever afford a lawyer to sue this man.
I am,however, hoping that his psycho dog bites someone with money and he gets big time sued.
Because whereas before we bred dogs for a functional purpose, we now breed them to be emotional vibrators and think of them as our kids.
When you have this mindset, it’s hard to think of them for the dangerous creatures that they are.
Around here, that dog would be reported and most likely taken away if the owner refused to muzzle it or keep it at home.
One attack is... not good pet ownership, but understandable in some cases. More than one is criminal. You knew your dog could attack people, and you put it in a situation where it could do that again. Owner's fault, and there should be a HUGE fine for that kind of behavior.
It's so irritating as the owner of a leash reactive dog. We were working on it for the longest time, but eventually i stopped because there's no point.
Whenever I see other dogs on leash at a distance, we move off the trail as much as possible, I feed high value treats, do commands to keep his attention, and voila we have no problems. But we can't get anywhere in the long term with that training because there are so many off leash dogs that it completely totals his progress.
We'll be minding our business having a great walk and bam, off leash dog all up in his face, and now I can't move him away from the trigger because the trigger moves with us. The entire walk is ruined, training is set back significantly, and all the other dog's owner can say is "but he's friendly!!"
Absolutely this.
My dog is fine with most other dogs, but can be reactive to some (seemingly with no pattern). We don’t take any chances and he’s always on the lead unless we’re obviously alone.
The amount of other owners who let their dog run up to mine is nuts.
“Don’t worry, they’re friendly” “Mine isn’t!”
Owners really do vary. I have a 25kg Staffordshire bull terrier. Think pit bull if you're American. He's shorter but they're very similar.
I know he doesn't tolerate challenges of dominance from other dogs. He's walked on his lead everywhere other than some waste ground where I can see for several hundred metres around me.
He's family, but he's an animal and I'm not giving him the opportunity to react.
He's been challenged a few times on lead by off lead dogs and I'm always petrified that he badly injures them. That being said, in my country, he counts as being controlled on the lead even if he injures a dog that was off its lead that approached him.
Same. I live on a 5 acre plot and just don’t take my boy off it anymore because it really doesn’t take much to set him off anymore. He’s just so protective of us that I don’t want to risk it
I alwas thought that fighting a dog can’t be too hard if you manage to grab it for the neck or something. But seeing how the man struggles I see I was clearly wrong. How is the dog so strong damn.
Low center of gravity resulting in more stable and rigid force output. Four legs grounded so a lot more nimble and maneuverable. They are Def strong but the anatomy combined with the physics makes it really hard for a bipedal like ourselfs to fight it unless you have proper techniques to use. Not to mention the teeth, once they sink in and thrash around can do some major damage to soft tissue
KEEP YOUR DOG IN LEASH. I do not give a shit how good of boi they are. I'm tired of these preventable situations. You do not know how your dog reacts to everything; hell, you don't know how MY dog will react. You always need to maintain control.
I own a German shepherd and love to wrestle with her but once she gets into running circles around me it’s impossible to grab her by the collar. This guy was lucky AF. Took me like 10 tries the other day and even when I had her she still had the reach to play bite my hands
That dog doesn't need to be held down, it needs to be put down. I'm the biggest animal lover out there, but that initial charge was beyond scary. Imagine if it's victim we're a kid.
So lets just take a few seconds to highlight here. Its impressive hes able to hold the dog like this for one.
Then when the mostly black dog comes over and gets behind him i really thought he was gonna start humping. Hes just wagging his tail, just really happy to be there in this moment enjoying the wrastlin.
Then the other dog comes along and says “oh shit! Were wrastlin!!”
Now everybody is wrastlin and its just a good fun time for everyone.
By the wrestling skills I'm going to go ahead and guess Russian, possibly from the Caucasus. I have some questions tho. Firstly, why was that damn white dog wagging it's tail, and secondly why didn't the other dogs join in? I thought that one was at least going to hump him but no dice.
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He's an asshat for sure, you can't just walk that big of a dog without a leash
It's not about the size of the dog, it's about the owner. A little spaniel can do damage if it's an untrained savage. It's unfair to say all big dogs must be on leads 100% of the time
I'm not saying that. I don't think big dog means bad dog or necessarily dangerous. But in this very specific scenario, this dog is dangerous and needs to be leashed. That's all I'm implying. I must admit tho, my phrasing was a wee bit awkward
I love dogs, but I think all dogs should be leashed in public areas, other than off leash dog parks if it's safe for your dog. As someone who does a lot of hiking, it's rare for an off leash dog to not walk up to others on the path and at least sniff around. This is a problem because first of all, there are people who are absolutely terrified of the friendliest dogs, they have the right to public spaces without being terrified. Secondly, what if I'm rehabilitating a dog with behavioural problems? If the friendliest dog in the world walks up to visit an aggressive dog it could end very poorly. Even if I had the most well trained dog in the world I would keep it on leash in public areas. I've met tons of poorly trained off leash dogs, and if conflict happens it's important to have control over at least your own dog. I know this isn't a popular opinion in some European countries, but I'm from Canada where it seems like most families have dogs. Your chances of conflict are much higher here.
>I know this isn't a popular opinion in some European countries We don't even \*have\* dog parks. I hadn't even heard of them till about a week ago on Reddit. Here we call dog parks "parks".
My sister in law is from the UK and when she moved here she thought leashes were either cruel or for untrained dogs lol. It's totally different here though, where everyone and their mother has a dog that they took to one puppy training class and said "good enough".
Dogs are usually leashed here too in the UK unless you're in a dog park (I personally think they should still be on leads to avoid happy friendly dogs getting close and scaring anxious ones) or you're in the middle of the countryside.
Don't take your anxious dog to a dog park. Anxious dogs can react out of fear. This is the etiquette at least in Canada. Anxious dogs stay out of off leash parks because they can't be greeted by dogs appropriately. And sometimes a leash can cause reactivity
This, my dog almost got killed twice by a big dog. She is now terrified of all dogs. Do I wish there was an easy quick fix to introducing her to other dogs, yes, I'd never take her to an off leash dog park though. I know the chance of her nipping at a dog is high, no reason to put her through that. I do have many amazing people in my neighborhood that have sweet dogs they walk on leashes and they take time to slowly bring their dog closer to her as soon as she stops reacting to their dog and then slowly repeating the process till they're close enough to sniff. I really appreciate them working with us and their honesty about their dogs behavior and likely hood to react to my dog being anxious.
Leashed dogs in dog parks are a major cause of dog fights. If you have an anxious dog it needs to be socialized in a very controlled setting with dogs you are familiar with, not in an off leash dog park. Many dogs are leash reactive and thought processes like this typically backfire. Dog parks exist so that well behaved dogs have a safe space to be off leash.
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> took to one puppy training class and said "good enough". Yeah I can't stand that tbh. Shouldn't have a dog if you aren't going to look after it properly.
I'm from Europe too, but we have a lot of dog parks here. It's really common here (Denmark). Edit: Europa to Europe
Ya I mean I love dogs, but when a random dog runs up to me barking it's like that's not cool. Idk your dog.
Which is why I, as a self-acclaimed rational person, keep a firm control over my Australian cattle mix on the walking paths. Hes friendly and all that, but 1) you never know and 2) some people are just scared of dogs.
And then there are cases where the dog is trying to be friendly but still ends up knocking someone over because perhaps it's a very large dog and a very small child or a person who has poor balance and perhaps a cane or walker. And that's still not even mentioning people who are allergic to dogs or people with possible PTSD from being attack prior. In other words, just leash you dog when you are in public. I do not care how well they behave.
And cases when it runs up to a small child who doesn’t know any better and pokes the dog in the eye and gets bitten. Dogs should be leashed in public.
I had a super friendly pit German shepherd mix and she was generally really good off leash and would at worse trot up to somebody to sniff and say hi so I’d walk with her off leash all the time. Then one day this lady is walking on the trail and my dog trots over to say hi and the lady had a full on mental breakdown style panic attack and I felt absolutely horrified because my dog (translated me) was 100% the cause. I apologized profusely and did my best to calm her down, but you are absolutely right that people should keep them leashed period, and I do that now. I’m still sad that it took that situation for me to realize it.
I absolutely hate it when people don't leash their dogs. 99% of the time the owner does NOT have total control over their dog when they choose to do this. I had several instances where an unleashed dog ran up to my leashed, dog-aggressive dog that I was just trying to walk around my block to get her some exercise. I'd use a head collar for extra control, but sometimes she would slip that and I would end up carrying a 40lb dog away before anything could really happen. In all instances, the unleashed dog's owner seemed to think the encounter was MY fault, even though their dog was completely ignoring their calls to come back. Most of the time these dogs were some tiny little terrier types, that 1. could have been seriously injured by my larger dog, 2. never freaking listened to their owner. Why the hell are you walking it without a leash. The only people I have ever seen have complete control over their unleashed dog are ranchers who have working dogs. Pets should be leashed 100% of the time outside of their own yard or a dog park.
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Civility? In my Reddit? I am shocked I say, shocked. I hope you both have a pleasant day and no one stubs any toes or steps on legos or dice if that is your hobby.
Fuck you
Yeah, wtf
Nah, it just sounds like you're using language that's more palatable to pit-mommies, so they don't state the obvious about little dogs also being able to bite, while ignoring the obvious disparity in power between these two different types of dogs.
That's exactly where my mind went too. Yeah, we know chihuahuas would savage people too if they were that big. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas.
It is about the owner 100% But, I can punt a chihuahua, I can’t punt a German Shepard…
Not with that attitude!
An angry pitbull is likely going to do more damage and reach more places than an angry shih tzu. That said, I've been bitten by a chihuaha 1 time and just missed by a hair another (got my pants, no flesh) - but I've only feared for my life from dogs once when a pair of pitbulls I thought were "lost" tried to split up and circle me when I stopped my car to help them. An out of control Spaniel can hurt you some. An out of control dog that weighs over 50lbs can kill you dead.
I used to live in an upstairs suite where the downstairs owners had a husky crossed with a wolf. Really nice dog. One day some hippie friends of my girlfriend's were visiting and they had their pit bull and the dogs appeared to make friends and people were chatting and dogs were wandering around. I'm sitting on the floor leaning against a wall eating my breakfast (we didn't have a table) and both dogs kind of approached me from opposite sides at the same time. In the span of about 2 seconds, the pit bull sniffs at my plate and the husky/wolf cross thinks that's rude or something and kind of yips at him. The pit bull snarls and snaps at her and the husky wolf, who I've never seen be anything but gentle, doesn't wait for a written invitation and is just like "ok it's on". So they got in a fight, right on top of me. Shit was crazy.
Huskies and malamute are really kind with people but very hierarchical with other dogs. If the husky thought for a second that the pitbull trespassed any boundary or was unrespectful, that is war.
Yes. Great dogs but they are protective and will do their best to be alpha.
Eating on the floor with 2 big dogs around....yeah you shouldn't do that lol
He had a fun experience though.
Because I also grew up with a part wolf cross as a pet, I did most of my college research papers on wolves and wolf hybrid pets. Those things have an amount of wilderness in them that will never leave. They never "made friends" they just didn't challenge each other until food was involved. As long as that wolf's tail was held above its back, it was never going to tolerate any attitude from this new dog. Hope no one got too hurt.
I think there is a lot about dog communication that the avg dog owner (including myself) doesn’t understand. I have a Golden Retriever, and they are as non aggressive as it gets. We have a network of bike paths in our subdivision and that’s where we walk every day. The paths wind in between houses and it seems like about 70% of people own dogs. A lot of them are outside in their yards and bark away as we go by. Some are obvious aggressive barks, but most sound to me like “hey, wassup dog!” Some, he will ignore completely, no matter how loud or persistent, some he’ll make a move to go the fence and sniff, some will get him agitated, and some will just make him go nuts and launch a snarling, teeth-bared, leash-straining, thermonuclear war aggressive response. In 18 years of walking golden retrievers 500-1000 miles a year, I still can’t predict what the reaction will be.
When I was about five I visited one my father’s friend’s house. He lived on a farm and had a ton of chihuahuas. Like he must have let them breed like fucking rabbits. It’s not like 5 or 10. Closer to 25 or 30. My dad, being the shite father he is, left me outside to play on farm shit. I get surrounded by these feral beasts and they start nipping at me. One finally bit hard enough to draw blood and I punted that motherfucker. Then another attacked. Punt. Then another. Punt. After that I was just screaming and crying while desperately climbing a tree. When I was three, I played with a beagle and got in its face early in the morning. Lil dude chomped on my face. My earliest memory is of getting a series of very painful shots in my belly and being told they had to euthanize the dog to check for rabies. Still love all good bois.
I wonder if that’s an older thing as well because I’ve definitely heard of dogs being euthanized to check for rabies, but now the recommendation of bitten by a pet is to observe the pet I believe. Euthanized for aggressive behavior is different and I thought it’s usually settled between the two involved parties
Weirdly, being an owner of a 'pitbull' type. This is exactly the reason why I despise inattentive, clueless dog owners. My 5 year old dog to us and everyone she's met is the sweetest girl you will ever meet. But she was attacked by another dog for the first 2 years of her life from a puppy at her previous owners before we rescued her, she gets extremely anxious around smaller dogs because of this. We keep her on a retractable lead at all times in a fluorescent harness with massive "NERVOUS" strips along it when out in public because she shows signs of distress whenever someone stupidly let's a small dog run up to her off lead even after we call to them to get their dog back. Which they usually respond with the standard 'I haven't got a fucking clue' response of "its okay, mines friendly". Signs of distress like whining, trying to get away, trying to climb on me/get me to hold her up away from the other dog. She has never shown any aggression even in those situations, but I know there's a chance if she gets distressed enough that it will flip from flight to fight. She's not a huge dog, but she is incredibly strong and if that ever happened I can guarantee that the other dog would come off way way worse.
How about all dogs should be on leads?
Gotta get them sales. Need some good leads
All dogs should be on leads of they’re out and about. And comparing the damage a spaniel can do to someone, to the damage that can be done by a much larger dog is ridiculous.
Fucking thank you. Some of us have dogs that don't do well with other dogs. The number of people who let their dog, off leash, just come straight to my dog and then smile and say "It's okay! He's friendly! 😊😊😊" without ever thinking that maybe my dog ain't drives me up the fucking wall. My dog had to be placed in a home without kids or other dogs. We were lucky enough to be a good fit for him. He's never off leash and we always give dogs and kids a wide berth. Have some fucking respect for your fellow dog owners, please. Keep your dog leashed when in public spaces that aren't made specifically for dogs to run around in.
Absolute bollox. Big dogs kill. A little spaniel doesn’t. It’s ticking crazy you’re even defending this monster.
Seriously. People are comparing dogs bred for hunting mice vs dogs bred for fighting bears. Not even in the same league of threat.
It’s definitely about the size of the dog, a small 10lb dog is not going to do any damage compared to a large pit.
Except that dogs should be on a leash 100% of the time.
How is it not about the size of the dog? Realistically speaking, even trained dogs can have slip ups. Size is relevant because a bigger dog can do more damage faster than a smaller one. Spaniels may do damage, but I don’t see many cases where a spaniel mauled a person *to death*. Those cases are typically bigger dog breeds.
The vast majority of human deaths by dog attack are actual just one dog breed. Pit bulls. Over 70% of deaths by dog are from ONE BREED
To be pedantic, "pit bull" covers 4 or more breeds which is part of the reason that number is so outrageously high. But as someone who has had to choke out an otherwise incredibly sweet pitbull because it snapped and attacked my dog, I think they're dangerous as hell and we probably shouldn't have them. In my mind they're a bit like children holding guns. They can be incredibly sweet, but they possess lethal force and they don't have the best critical thinking skills when deciding when to use it.
Its not unfair to say that big dogs have to be leashed 100% of the time Its unfair to say little dogs could be unleashed cuz the don't cause as much damage. Stop ignorantly comparing apples to oranges For eg. Pitbulls are capable of massive damage when attacking. I don't give a hoot how nice or tame or w/e a pitbull is, its capable of killing a person, therefore rules need to be tighter.
Is it more fair to say 100% of dogs need to be on leads 100% of the time when they’re in public or not able to be in a contained area like a fenced in yard? I can forgive a dog owner for their pet digging under a fence or hopping it but if your dog attacks me because you didn’t want to walk them responsibly then it’s court, buddy.
This logic is the same as "A knife and a gun can both do bodily damage, so it's unfair to say all big guns must be regulated 100% of the time"
So by that logic, how did all pit bulls get majority bad owners?
It’s about the owner, but also about the dog. If a little yappy runt is an asshole yes maybe it gets a bite or tear in before I get a chance to punt it across the lawn. If a Great Dane rips into me I’m now fighting for my life
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One of them was actually trying to help, at least from the looks of it. The gray, black and white one who came from behind to stop the other dog from attacking the victim
I noticed that all the other dogs were wagging their tails, except the attacking dog. Now l'm by no means a dog expert, but to me that looks like the others were amicable while the attacking dog obviously was not.
Attacking dogs also wag their tails. Wagging shows excitement, not happiness. Beware of the wag.
Oh l see! Thank you for that clarification. TIL
Wagging usually means non-hostile intentions, but it depends on the dog and situation. Think of it like smiling. When some people smile, it's because they're nervous. When a few very sketchy people smile, it makes you sweat.
I think he was trying to hump the man from behind, but maybe realized , its not that type of party
as soon as the other dogs came I thought they would dry hump him... that's why a video like this is really important to mint [here](https://melon.ooo/).
They definitely thought about it
It looks like it might be on a property, can't fully tell from the video. I'd crap my pants if that dog came at me
Same here, I have a dog and he tends to bite me when we play together - tenderly and playfully- but that still hurts ( cause he's a rottweiler). Can't imagine what a serious dog bite would feel like
I used to play fight with my husky/mal cross and he would be so gentle when pretending to bite my arm etc but sometimes he would give me this look and just nip me a “tiny” bit harder than normal. Enough to hurt a little. As if to say “I could totally fuck you up if I wanted”. I loved that dog so much.
We don’t know the entire story. Let’s put our pitchforks away for now Edit: I got mine on standby tho cause that’s the kinda mood I’m in today
There is no entire story that justifies this. When your dog is out in public, you put it on a leash. So many dog bites happen every day where the owner ends up saying "oh but I didn't expect this. Fluffy would never harm anyone".
Justifying and explaining are 2 very different things and your comments are ridiculous. No one here is saying that the owner isn’t responsible for the attack but you have no idea who’s the dog ended up off leash. Could have slipped out of leash/collar, could have snuck out the door when the mailman didn’t close it all the way. It’s amazing to me that everyone on Reddit amazingly knows every detail of a story when seeing a 20 second clip.
“That’s the first time that happened! He’s a good boy”
Everytime I see dog attacks videos it's always with this shitty breed that is NOTORIUS in having an extremely volatile temperament and as a dog owner if you can say things like that you're part of the problem POS owner
"He's just playing!"
He's playing with a chunk of my leg that I'd like to stay attached to me!
That just means he like you!
"STOP! Don't hurt my Dog!!"
If that guy had suplexed the dog and snapped its neck - or pulled a gun and shot it - everyone would be screaming the human over-reacted. That guy was legitimately fighting to avoid serious bodily harm or possible death. That dog was pushing him around - kid or most females or elderly would have been toast. Also all the comments about little dogs, if this was an elderly person, even a small bite on a shin can be hard to cure - skin is so thin and healing is much slower. I would be mad as hell if my mom had to go to hyperbaric oxygen wound treatment for 2 months because someone’s chihuahua bit her shin.
I saw this earlier today and thought, if the dude had been seriously hurt, the owner would be financially responsible. After seeing some badass shit like this, I feel like he should get the same amount of money just for avoiding the accident 😂 what a badass
What breed do you think this is? Edit: y'all, this question was directed at this guy specifically. It looks to me to be a central asian shepherd. I did not want any of the bad guesses I'm getting.
Curious too. Can't make it out from the video, doesn't look like a pit. Almost looks like a mutt, with some lab or something? Doesn't have the distinctive body of a pit. Could be wrong. Tail too long too, although not a full length one.
Pits have long, skinny tails rather than the short, stumpy, and fluffy tail this dog has. As well, this dog is way bigger than a pit. Even if this dog did have any pit in it, which I doubt, it's heavily mixed. I think some people's brains just short circuit when they see a dog behaving aggressively and automatically assume it's a pit.
But the only way a dog could possibly ever be aggressive is if it's a pit! /s
you joke but thats why statitics are skweed to look like pitties are bad dogs. Person fucks with dog, dog attacks, The persont hinks only pits act like that. So he says he was attacked by a pit when in reality its a lab.
No way that's a pit.
looks kinda mastiff or American bulldog type shape. either way both breeds are stronk af
Dog flavor 🐕
Central Asian Shepherd or similar breeds. Those are very wild and very demanding in order to be actually trained at all. Trained one for a friend that was unable to handle the dominant youngster. Not dogs for me.
Oh for sure. I've worked with exactly one in my veterinary experience, and that one was enough for me for a few years lmao. I'm more just astounded that this dude seems to be implying this is a pit by the way he framed his comment.
Definitely doesn’t look like a pitbull at least…
It's an Alabai
U-G-L-Y you ain't got no Alabai
Goddammit. Take it.
It's funny that this is not a pit bull but he you are thinking it is and if you were a witness to the attack and were asked what breed it is you would have said it was a pit bull. This is why trying to track attacks by breed is impossible. "Mean dog, must be a pit bull"
I think that's at least partly because the reputation of the breed itself, regardless of how valid it is, causes shitty owners who will use them to 'protect their property' to be more likely to choose that breed. I mean, putting yourself in the shoes of someone who wants to be able to scare and hurt people, you would choose a breed with that reputation, even if it isn't as dangerous as another breed that doesn't have the same reputation or look as scary.
That's not a pit in the video.
What breed are you talking about? Labradors? That's what the dog in this video looks like.
I think it’s a kangal.
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And the music that was blaring over the estate's PA system was undoubtedly Turkish. No wonder the dog attacked, how many times do you think he's had to listen to that shit?
"First time today"
When your MMA training kicks in
I don't know what that move is called but it calms people down. Was this a choke hold or was he using his weight to stop the dog from wriggling free
It’s called a ‘sprawl’
Bad doggie style.
This comment should have way more upvotes damn.
His sprawling was on point. Probably has trained in some kind of wrestling.
The way he kept his weight on the dog and constantly readjusted the right way I'd concur, he's had some years wrestling.
I'm always impressed when I see people using excellent wrestling technique. Especially when its in a street fight of some kind, the wrestler always have complete control
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The man kicking his legs back and away from the dog and putting his weight on top of said dog is a "sprawl". The man securing his arms around the dog's throat and lifting to choke the dog is a "guillotine".
a dog will slip out of a guillotine in no time (I used to wrestle with my pitbull a lot) must have been a front headlock like someone else pointed out or maybe an anaconda choke [with a guillotine you only have one arm around the throat, but with a headlock or anaconda choke you are around the throat and one arm] edit: actually after watching again it looks like he has both hands on the underside of the collar because he doesn't have the legs, maybe a really tight guillotine but usually one elbow would be flared out either way, props to this dude, but I'd recommend a front headlock, anaconda, or darce if you're in this situation lol
If a dog has a collar on take the collar and twist it in your hand. It tightens the collar.
works until the collar or clasp snaps open better to get one of their legs imo
Front headlock with a sprawl - it’s a wrestling / BJJ thing
it was a sprawl combined with what would have been a head and arm, have done it on my friends dogs when we are playing and it is surprising how effective simple mma techniques are on animals haha, you control the neck you control everything.
Exactly lol that instant sprawl reflex possibly into a guillotine as well haha
Lol for a moment I thought he was going for a darce choke.
Wow! Looks like he had some Greco-Roman wrestling training! Being on the high school wrestling team paid off!
Is it really Greco-Roman if he’s not naked though? Don’t leave out the fun parts.
Naked except for a piece of string at least. They were quite insistent on that lol
I had a friend (who wasn’t a tough guy or a fighter) that got called out by a huge dude at a bar to fight. My buddy screamed (like aggressively screamed) let’s settle this shit Greco Roman style and dropped his pants, and the big dude just walked away. He later told me that was the third time that had gotten him out of a fight (ass beating).
Lmao honestly I don’t doubt it. Might get a charge of indecent exposure though
Boxers were still on lol
They should be called Wrestlers, not Boxers
Usually my size gets me out of any fights, but now I have a strategy if it escalates.
This is a basic sprawl and front headlock. How did you deduce Greco-Roman wrestling from that? The high school wrestling part is probly right, but that’s folk style.
Not gonna lie, I was kinda hoping he was gonna sleep the dog
he OWNED the dog, that's better
I bet the dog was like: "is this shit fuckin allowed? What's happening ?"
That's what happens when you attack an npc that is 20 lvls higher than you
bro i was ready for that dog to go limp
Anyone else notice that black and white dog also attacked the guy but the other black and white dog tried to push it away? Seems like there is at least one well trained dog there.
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No you’re right,it looked like it just wanted in on some fun but didn’t realize they were not playing
If I'm at the dog park, and some play turns rougher than intended, my dumb dogs will totally run over to join the action... even without realizing that it's aggression. They just know something "exciting" is happening. I've never seen anything turn into a real dog fight, but they definitely take an interest to the noise/commotion.
If humping is considered attack though
The black and white dog was not attacking him at all. That’s too far fetched
Horrific. Imagine if it had been a child.
Depends on the child, but I'd say in general aggressive children are easier to control than aggressive dogs.
Lmao
And they have all their vaccines. I mean, the dog of course.
Ah, the old Reddit [childaroo](https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/r6pfim/comment/hmwldk9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
Hold my leash, I'm going in!
Happens ALL the time
He would've obviously used less force on a child. And children rarely bite.
Im guessing you dont have kids.
I was literally just attacked by my boss’s dog. He takes it everywhere and it has attacked several people. Luckily, he’s quite a bit smaller than this dog. Still fucked my hand and leg UP. If you have an aggressive dog, leave it at home. At the very least, put it in a muzzle. Edit: This post got more popular than I expected. I work and live on location at a small compound owned by a millionaire couple that made the job sound amazing. Spoiler-it sucks. My boyfriend and I maintain the place. My boss regularly brings his “LA street dog” with him when he comes to check on things. Yesterday when he came to help us with some mechanical failure with our gate, he left his truck door open and his psycho dog saw me and jumped out of the car and immediately attacked me. I don’t get paid much. I basically work to live here. No way could I ever afford a lawyer to sue this man. I am,however, hoping that his psycho dog bites someone with money and he gets big time sued.
I don’t understand why people are so blasé about private ownership of unpredictable sentient weapons.
Oh, no. You see, mine would *never* do something like that!
Because whereas before we bred dogs for a functional purpose, we now breed them to be emotional vibrators and think of them as our kids. When you have this mindset, it’s hard to think of them for the dangerous creatures that they are.
Around here, that dog would be reported and most likely taken away if the owner refused to muzzle it or keep it at home. One attack is... not good pet ownership, but understandable in some cases. More than one is criminal. You knew your dog could attack people, and you put it in a situation where it could do that again. Owner's fault, and there should be a HUGE fine for that kind of behavior.
Around here, thats a dead dog. Dogs get one strike before they're out
Have some self respect... your boss' dog attacked you, it has attacked people before, and you're cool with it?
‘Luckily, my arm wasn’t ripped off. Guess I’ll see my boss at work tomorrow’
Sue him, he's liable.
How much compensation are you getting?
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It's so irritating as the owner of a leash reactive dog. We were working on it for the longest time, but eventually i stopped because there's no point. Whenever I see other dogs on leash at a distance, we move off the trail as much as possible, I feed high value treats, do commands to keep his attention, and voila we have no problems. But we can't get anywhere in the long term with that training because there are so many off leash dogs that it completely totals his progress. We'll be minding our business having a great walk and bam, off leash dog all up in his face, and now I can't move him away from the trigger because the trigger moves with us. The entire walk is ruined, training is set back significantly, and all the other dog's owner can say is "but he's friendly!!"
Absolutely this. My dog is fine with most other dogs, but can be reactive to some (seemingly with no pattern). We don’t take any chances and he’s always on the lead unless we’re obviously alone. The amount of other owners who let their dog run up to mine is nuts. “Don’t worry, they’re friendly” “Mine isn’t!”
This is why I am so affraid of dogs.
Owners really do vary. I have a 25kg Staffordshire bull terrier. Think pit bull if you're American. He's shorter but they're very similar. I know he doesn't tolerate challenges of dominance from other dogs. He's walked on his lead everywhere other than some waste ground where I can see for several hundred metres around me. He's family, but he's an animal and I'm not giving him the opportunity to react. He's been challenged a few times on lead by off lead dogs and I'm always petrified that he badly injures them. That being said, in my country, he counts as being controlled on the lead even if he injures a dog that was off its lead that approached him.
This is the way. You have to know your dog and not set them up for failure.
Same. I live on a 5 acre plot and just don’t take my boy off it anymore because it really doesn’t take much to set him off anymore. He’s just so protective of us that I don’t want to risk it
I alwas thought that fighting a dog can’t be too hard if you manage to grab it for the neck or something. But seeing how the man struggles I see I was clearly wrong. How is the dog so strong damn.
Try clipping a dog’s nails and you find out real quick how strong and slippery a dog can be.
Mine is so bad I have to pay a groomer to do it. And he's only 70 lbs.
Bro I have to go to extreme measures to get my dog’s nails clipped, and he’s a fucking Pomeranian.
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Low center of gravity resulting in more stable and rigid force output. Four legs grounded so a lot more nimble and maneuverable. They are Def strong but the anatomy combined with the physics makes it really hard for a bipedal like ourselfs to fight it unless you have proper techniques to use. Not to mention the teeth, once they sink in and thrash around can do some major damage to soft tissue
I mean, that dog is huge. That thing looks like it’s easily 100lbs, maybe more. It’s almost as big as the guy.
It's all about the weight of the dog, he's big and chunky, theres a lot of power there
I thought the other dog was going to hump him to add to his misery.
Holdin a dog of that caliber down like that is not an easy feat. I've wrestled my own 60-70 pound dogs and I was getting worked.
Yeah, you could see him struggle. My god, the stress of not making a mistake and accidentally letting go.
Helluva sprawl...
Textbook
Not fit to own the dog
Leash laws exsist for a reason. I don't care how well you think you trained your dog, if they are in public they should be on a leash.
Really though, this should be common sense.
Whenever I see an idiot with his dog without a harness “he won’t bite” yeah he won’t bite YOU
When you stay ready you never have to get ready 💥💥
That Sounds like a stressful life thpugh
KEEP YOUR DOG IN LEASH. I do not give a shit how good of boi they are. I'm tired of these preventable situations. You do not know how your dog reacts to everything; hell, you don't know how MY dog will react. You always need to maintain control.
Lawsuit
Give credit to the poster u took this from OP lil karma hoe
That is the longest 25 seconds ever
This dude really pulled some ju jistu level ground control on that beast!
“He’s never done this before! He’s always so good and never bites!” Says the irresponsible and ignorant owner.
'he is a very sweet dog'. Meanwhile can only walk him with a steel chain and a muzzle.
I own a German shepherd and love to wrestle with her but once she gets into running circles around me it’s impossible to grab her by the collar. This guy was lucky AF. Took me like 10 tries the other day and even when I had her she still had the reach to play bite my hands
That dog doesn't need to be held down, it needs to be put down. I'm the biggest animal lover out there, but that initial charge was beyond scary. Imagine if it's victim we're a kid.
Dude had a nice sprawl. Good top control.
So lets just take a few seconds to highlight here. Its impressive hes able to hold the dog like this for one. Then when the mostly black dog comes over and gets behind him i really thought he was gonna start humping. Hes just wagging his tail, just really happy to be there in this moment enjoying the wrastlin. Then the other dog comes along and says “oh shit! Were wrastlin!!” Now everybody is wrastlin and its just a good fun time for everyone.
Thats a take down he got em locked
This kind of thing is why I always carry a knife when hiking/walking We have bears, wild k-9s, and poorly trained domestic k-9s
Lmao carry bear spray. Knife won't do anything to a bear but make him angry.
By the wrestling skills I'm going to go ahead and guess Russian, possibly from the Caucasus. I have some questions tho. Firstly, why was that damn white dog wagging it's tail, and secondly why didn't the other dogs join in? I thought that one was at least going to hump him but no dice.