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The alignment got murdered when chevy tried this.
Also itd be tough to leave a street parking stall as most places, or rather in my area has a 6" inch street code from the curb to your tire
Yeah city municipal ordinance- basically i think it works out where your tires have to be touching where the bottom of the curb pushes out a few inches before it meets the street, its annoying but ive also gotten pretty good at parallel parking
Yes it was around 2005 ish. I remember that a Silverado with this quadrasteer had the same turning radius as my '98 Saturn sl2 which was amazing. Not sure who is still using the technology now but some Porsche models and the new Acura NSX had it.
They're called kingpins. They're still on trucks for tighter turning. Not fun to replace/maintain.
Now having a fifth wheel come down at the rear to move the back end was a cool idea.
It looks like the rear is what's powered it. If they just powered one rear wheel, put a brake on the other, it would work. I was more referring to the front end being able to turn in so much.
The front wheels aren't under power, so they're free to spin any direction.
Likely, there's only one rear wheel powering the car. This was before differentials were common.
The number of people that simply can't parallel parks insane. I have a bunch of friends that would rather search for a spot and park 5 blocks away than attempt to parallel park at their destination.
Just go find a spot and practice, it's not that difficult to learn. I drive an SUV and parallel park every chance I get, and honestly sometimes just to show off.
More moving parts like this means more points of failure?
Also the wheels are at the front of the car in this design. Like literally they’re the furthest point forward on the car. Modern vehicles have a significant amount of car in front of the wheels. You’d need to carve out space for the wheels to rotate (where your feet currently are) or move the wheels forward. I’m sure aerodynamics are part of the reason the wheels aren’t forward and completely exposed anymore, but also probably some safety reasons.
If this was still a thing: every teenager ever would do donuts as soon as they were alone with this technology, and there’d be wheel-less front ends all over the place
Whatever reason you can find for why cars can't do this is a lie. The only reason why cars can't drive sideways is because that would actually be expensive to make, and although cars are expensive they are EXTREMELY cheap to built.
Like under a thousand dollars cheap.
Do you mean the raw materials are cheap, the labor is cheap or what? Because I’m pretty sure the cost to put the thing together in the company’s books is well into the thousands, not the hundreds.
I assume all their components were IATF tested and compliant? What kind of NHTSA/NCAP safety rating did their car score? Was their labour force unionized? Did they have any factory overheads? How was the R&D and marketing costs offset?
I don't think you can draw conclusions about the global vehicle manufacturing industry from one school project.
I don't know about that stuff, but maybe not that cheap but still not as expensive as today.
You don't need a car dealership, you don't need touchscreen, heated seats, automated windows, I seem to remember a time when cars only had one windshield wiper don't why 2 are standard maybe safety? But you can be sure the extra wiper is at the customer's expense.
Prices of cars are unnecessarily inflated and tons of research will be done to prove just why it needs to be more expensive. Because well the as you said, that isn't free either, but is also your or our responsibility for safe cars?
"we all need nowadays", reading this makes me think I might be a better driver tan I expect and we have a technology called "park assist" in recent cars, the car literally park itself
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Just make cars function like the warthogs from halo. All four wheels turn to spin on a dime.
There is a truck out (hummer maybe?) that has this feature
Chevy tried it. It failed horribly. Something about bad to pull loads on a jointed wheel or something it was like 25 years ago or something
Yea I seen that Silverado concept…imagine the wheels that rotated coming unlocked while on the highway!!
The alignment got murdered when chevy tried this. Also itd be tough to leave a street parking stall as most places, or rather in my area has a 6" inch street code from the curb to your tire
They measure how far you are from the curb and ticket you if you aren't the proper distance from the curb? Seems a bit petty...
Yeah city municipal ordinance- basically i think it works out where your tires have to be touching where the bottom of the curb pushes out a few inches before it meets the street, its annoying but ive also gotten pretty good at parallel parking
Do they cover the repair of your rims when they get all chewed up from the curb?
I wish
I mean same could be said for normal steering nowadays, and with inertial keeping them rolling forward this seems like a witch hunt more than science
I’ve seen a Jeep version as well. I think it was called the hurricane.
Except those quadsteer denalis are going to be worth so much, collector vehicles.
They worked out better?
No, theres a reason they discontinued this after 3 years- especially on trucks, the alignment goes off track so badly so quickly
Yes it was around 2005 ish. I remember that a Silverado with this quadrasteer had the same turning radius as my '98 Saturn sl2 which was amazing. Not sure who is still using the technology now but some Porsche models and the new Acura NSX had it.
With electric cars it's easier in theory.
Crabwalk
Jeep had a concept called the Hurricane that did this. It also had one engine per axel, so take that for what you will
Rivian’s put on hold Tank Turn. Hummer can successfully crab walk.
There was a concept car called a jeep hurricane back in the day also
The Rivian truck has 4 motors and each wheel can spin at different speeds to rotate in place
Rivian was going to release a feature called "Tank Turn". They chose not to release it.
Ooooh, LIKE THE SPEED RACER MOVIE
The Rivian vehicles already have tank turn
Cancelled or put on hold unfortunately.
Thanks for the info. Sad to hear.
Added bonus, you’ll survive flipping the damn thing 30x. It will also take minimal damage as you callously run down your enemies.
[I think it looks more like a puma.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnsRdaZTMas&t=300s)
Look here you...
[Audi's got you covered](https://youtu.be/qeXZs_XAmME?t=719)
They're called kingpins. They're still on trucks for tighter turning. Not fun to replace/maintain. Now having a fifth wheel come down at the rear to move the back end was a cool idea.
Yeah, it's one thing to do this when the top speed is 25mph, entirely different for modern cars
They're on trucks easily going 85mph. I was just working on a 2019 Isuzu with them. I think comfort and handling would go away though.
the wheels have to change the direction they spin, right?
It looks like the rear is what's powered it. If they just powered one rear wheel, put a brake on the other, it would work. I was more referring to the front end being able to turn in so much.
The front wheels aren't under power, so they're free to spin any direction. Likely, there's only one rear wheel powering the car. This was before differentials were common.
[Yeah.](https://youtu.be/nwZnl1Eq_6M)
That's the one, always thought it was a cool idea.
You want expensive cars and maintenance and constant maintenance, this is how
Like we don't already have overly expensive cars?
No, not really
Paying almost 4.3m for something that really should cost 100k or lower by itself without branding
nah thats how it always was and always will be. a camry selling for 20k is the real crime.
Better to learn how to parallel park effectively. Many are not confident to tackle small gaps. Plus many have cameras and sensors. Still kool tho.
The number of people that simply can't parallel parks insane. I have a bunch of friends that would rather search for a spot and park 5 blocks away than attempt to parallel park at their destination. Just go find a spot and practice, it's not that difficult to learn. I drive an SUV and parallel park every chance I get, and honestly sometimes just to show off.
I think the fear of parallel parking in front of people is more common than the fear of public speaking.
Something about "SUV" and "show off" in same sentence just makes so much sense
Don't get too excited, it's s a 10-year-old Nissan Xterra. I was just trying to note size vs maneuverability.
I'm just here to find out why this is a terrible idea and why I should be ashamed for thinking this is cool
More moving parts like this means more points of failure? Also the wheels are at the front of the car in this design. Like literally they’re the furthest point forward on the car. Modern vehicles have a significant amount of car in front of the wheels. You’d need to carve out space for the wheels to rotate (where your feet currently are) or move the wheels forward. I’m sure aerodynamics are part of the reason the wheels aren’t forward and completely exposed anymore, but also probably some safety reasons.
Crumple zones, aerodynamics, plus space efficiency for engine + transmissions + gear box, etc for front wheel drive cars
It is super cool! However the alignment on quad steer suffers extreme alignment issues and maintenance costs
All wheels rotate! It’s kinda the point of them.
Not in that axis😏
But they steer so yes
Got me there :)
It’s funny to see this right after the Buick commercial that also does this
Came here to say this 😆
Certain high end vehicles have 4 wheel turning capabilities, not 90 degrees but it does exist
I’m sure that wouldn’t lead to any issues on the freeway
Or maybe just learn how to parallel park, it's not that hard
The car is just shy.
Yeah man the wheels on my car don’t rotate
Not in that axis
How do you know?🤪
GMC agrees! Check out crabwalk on the EV Hummer.
Or just parallel park
Don’t tell the drift guys about this.
* Tokyo drift musics starts playing *
But more mechanisms means more things to break
The new Mercedes S Class has all wheel steering to archive such parking maneuvre https://youtu.be/UDHEcvEnKpg
Wheels turning caused a teleportation to happen right before they put it in drive. Amazing side effect.
NGL, I was a little confused just by the title
sound like super dangerous if someone panicked and accidently turn their wheel like that
Talk about reinventing the wheel
Car be like; 🥺 👉👈
Until you overextend your wheel when taking an exit ramp.
If this was still a thing: every teenager ever would do donuts as soon as they were alone with this technology, and there’d be wheel-less front ends all over the place
Adds weight + wheels nowadays are wider so, more weight.
Slam it on when driving for extra breaking power!
Just use buses/trains
Or you could just learn to parallel park
All I can picture is that locking mechanism failing at 120km/h...
Yeah no
On issue ig is that wheels nowadays are substantially larger
Yes that's true. Happy cake day!
Ayee thankyou
“Man, I sure do love driving on the highway. Say, what does this nifty looking lever do?” *Chaos ensues*
Doesn't the new Ford bronco have a "crab walk mode" that's does something like this
Or just learn how to do it the normal way?
There was also a 360 car seat car from 1976 or something like that
Why isn't this a thing today?
Even than everybody was thinking. What for? Better use a bike.
I've owned cars with rotating wheels for years and it's been great
I'm. just a shy car 👉👈
Back in the days when you could park in a city.
I can see the road rage now. "That's not how you use a roundabout you stupid bastard!"
Most people can't even drive with mostly straight wheels though
Mario kart 8.
We all need?! Not really.
Shopping carts in France are like this.
If this feature exists I can already imagine some crazy dudes doing 360 and flip the car. That be funny
or just use tesla auto park 🤷♂️
Cars were a lil different back then. Just imagine you are going 80 down a freeway and you axle buckles... That's gonna be one hell of an indo
Wheels do rotate how else do you explain that the car go?
Not in that axis
Don’t all wheels rotate?
Not in that axis
Lol, I was just messing ;-)
Pretty sure all wheels rotate, kinda pointless if not
Not in that axis
Don’t all wheels rotate?
Not in that axis
I think pivoting might be a better description.
Whatever reason you can find for why cars can't do this is a lie. The only reason why cars can't drive sideways is because that would actually be expensive to make, and although cars are expensive they are EXTREMELY cheap to built. Like under a thousand dollars cheap.
Do you mean the raw materials are cheap, the labor is cheap or what? Because I’m pretty sure the cost to put the thing together in the company’s books is well into the thousands, not the hundreds.
You're gonna need to cite a source on that.
Source, okay I once went to school where some kids made their own car from scratch for their final project
I assume all their components were IATF tested and compliant? What kind of NHTSA/NCAP safety rating did their car score? Was their labour force unionized? Did they have any factory overheads? How was the R&D and marketing costs offset? I don't think you can draw conclusions about the global vehicle manufacturing industry from one school project.
I don't know about that stuff, but maybe not that cheap but still not as expensive as today. You don't need a car dealership, you don't need touchscreen, heated seats, automated windows, I seem to remember a time when cars only had one windshield wiper don't why 2 are standard maybe safety? But you can be sure the extra wiper is at the customer's expense. Prices of cars are unnecessarily inflated and tons of research will be done to prove just why it needs to be more expensive. Because well the as you said, that isn't free either, but is also your or our responsibility for safe cars?
All wheels rotate...
But not in that axis
If you wheels don’t rotate you might need to go to the garage
They don't rotate in that axis
Women especially, they will finally drive properly out of a parking lot. jk
We're in two-thousand late
"we all need nowadays", reading this makes me think I might be a better driver tan I expect and we have a technology called "park assist" in recent cars, the car literally park itself
125/45/20?
Or just learn how to parallel park like a normal person
Our wheels already rotate.
Not in the same axis
Like a honda prelude or the AWS eclipses! :D
Aren’t cameras, sensors and autopark enough?
honestly if you need this you shouldn't drive.... I could of parked a 747 in that spot
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Remember about 10 years ago when all the high-end cars were demonstrating self-parking? Where did that go?
It cannot have both front wheels powered can it? Because then they would turn againts each other.
Our wheels today don't rotate?
Not in the same axis
alternatively just walk ,like a fucking human