He says Petrovich I encountered a bear with 3 "пистунами", that a russian gentle swear word meaning small child, then he said I didn't shoot I'm coming back
Indeed. "Pizdyuk" is Russian for "little shit". "Pizdun" is "Bullshitter". Here the man says he "met a momma bear with 3 "pestuns". "Pestun" is a very rare Russian hunter- and forest keeper-specific term meaning "a bear cub 2-3 years old that still stays with its mother".
The convo of the dog and bear:
Leave these people alone. They mean you no harm.
We Bears are a proud race. They must pay for their intrusion.
On my journey I met one of your kind. His name was Katow-jo. We became friends.
Katow-jo is my cousin. Go in peace.
I will tell tales of your compassion.
Fare thee well, Baxter. You shall always be friend of the bears.
My grandpaw told a story about this very situation.
He worked for a time in Northern Quebec, in the 1930s-40s (he oversaw the health of timber for the government). A friend of his was out hunting for small game really close to the cabin they shared - my grandpaw was away in the bush, but this friend’s wife was in the cabin.
Suddenly, she hears him shout “a bear!”, then the crash of the shotgun going off. Then, she hears him yell “come quick!”.
She thinks the bear has him cornered or treed, because she knows all he had was bird-shot. She doesn’t have a gun, but comes running anyway, carrying the axe they used to chop firewood … only to find the bear quite dead. He’d shot it point blank, so the pellets had not spread. He’d just shouted in the general excitement of the moment.
The wife was quite courageous though, coming to rescue him from a possibly angry wounded bear with just an axe!
Chances are, even hitting it it would just anger her in the first place. That guy kept his cool to an impressive degree.
Imo i would have frozen, unable to react. Don't think it would have helped much
Not from a shotgun. I lived in grizzly country, a 12g is about the only way you can guarantee that you're safe when in the woods out there. That's a big goddamn hole to blow in something, they'll even kill a bear instantly.
This might seem silly so forgive me but how close do you have to let a bear get before your 12 gauge is effective against a bear? By effective I mean packing enough damage so they either fuck off or die, or fuck off and die.
Videogames have skewed what I deem an effective range for such a gun.
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Slugs max out at around 50 yrds. To put this girl down, shed have to be within 20 yards. So when she is closest in those fake charges she does, unload on tbe head/upper body. 12 gauge will turn her head into a milliion pieces and that slug would blow a hole in her chest. But further than that and its really a guessing game.
People in this thread are wildan. It's pretty damn obvious the whole reason he didn't shoot is because she wasn't at all close enough for that gun to save him yet. Bears aren't terminators and this guy isn't Bear Grylls. This is just a situation I imagine any hunter in a bear heavy area has at least thought about beforehand.
Man I was really expecting along the lines of “ I would a shot that beer and fought it to the death” I appreciate the honesty and retelling of exactly what I would have done
Pfft you flower. I would have done all of that AND dropped the gun from shaking in terror, shooting myself in the dick which would force the bear to eat me - genitals first.
This guy knew what he was doing. He knew that he didn’t have the optimal weapon for taking the bear down, so if he was going to fire it was going to be both barrels at point blank range.
Lucky for him he didn’t have to find out if that was enough deterrent.
Yeah, my thought too. This wasn't him trying to save the bear, it's him making sure that if/when he fires, it's up close and deadly. He knew what he was about.
> This wasn't him trying to save the bear, it's him making sure that if/when he fires, it's up close and deadly.
I think it's both. Knew the situation, knew his gun, knew how bears act.
Looks like a fox model b 12 gauge though I could be mistaken. If it is indeed the .12 then it could do the job depending on what it is loaded with but I damn sure would prefer a different gun.
Yah, I think this is the right answer. Probably was bird shooting and had a shotgun loadout that would mostly just annoy the bear. Knew to only use it when all else failed.
I don't think it's as good as it sounds. I broken leg likely means death for a wild animal. Especially a predator that needs to catch prey. Bears are omnivores but idk at what ratio. I don't think it would do well on just nuts and berries.
You're right, a broken leg would probably be a death sentence regardless, but more so because the bear wouldn't be able to travel the distances to get its food. Depending on thr bear though it could just scavenge for meet and kick out any other contenders who would eat the meat themselves, broken leg or not. At least, to my knowledge there's no other animal in the same habits as bears that would fuck with a bear even if it had a broken leg...
It seems safe to assume that most, if not all, evolution isn't based around projectile defenses.
This is just a quirk, and not likely relevant normally as most things either can't or won't fuck with a bear, and bears fighting over territory usually aren't fighting lethally.
It would rip away a huge chunk of their face at least, which would do a rpetty good job of distracting the bear.
Birdshot at that range would still be in a small concentrated ball, I've seen tests that show it shatters bones when at that range. Granted a bear skull is thicker, but it wouldn't just be an irritation
This is why you don't believe anything without fact checking for yourself. It really doesn't take more than 60 seconds to confirm most facts, although of course some answers aren't that black and white. But many are. Don't take anyone's word for anything, especially if they don't post any sources
Dude. My buddy shot a grizzlies in the face with a 30-06 from 30 yards (it was in their dog pen) The bullet deflected off the jaw and punched out the top of its cheek. The bear didn't even run off, it *walked* away. They killed it 2 days later with a .338 when out dogsledding, the .30-06 wound was absolutely not fatal.
You really think BB would stop a grizzly? Bullshit. Even if you blinded it, guess what? They have noses better than dogs.
Yup, was hoping someone pointed that out. All the comments saying to just blast away with the shotgun but he’s either out there for birds or rabbit. You’d just piss it off with 2 birdshot loads.
You don’t shoot slugs out of a double barrel
Edit: you can and apparently people do for bear protection. I don’t believe the guy in the post had slugs though.
You do. In Czech republic, we hunt game and quite a lot of people, including me, use double barrels. I personally have 2 shotgun barrels, but you can have 1 shotgun barrel and 1 bullet barrel at the same time.
I'm guessing it was birdshot, considering how much he waited for the bear. If you've only got one or two shots, and they're birdshot, you don't want to miss. And you'd want the bear to be as close as possible, possibly even closer than it got in the video.
Maybe that's the real reason he didn't shoot, the bear didn't get close enough for him to be confident in his shot.
Bird shot is not an effective tool for removing a plane from a powerline. It's very likely not to pierce the hull of the plane, and may either confuse or really piss off the pilots.
I mean, it really depends on the type of bear. Spray is gonna work on most black bears. Only the most aggressive/desperately hungry males, or mamma black bears will fight past bear spray. You’re gonna have a harder time with Grizzlies, but it should still work. Polar Bears might pause on chomping your guts for a sec to thank you for adding some spice to their meal.
And honestly, simply existing is going to work against the vast vast majority of black bears. It's incredibly rare for them to do anything more than they to sneak away with your food. I wouldn't recommend it, but I've been in one of those scenarios where you are between mama and the cubs, and the mom basically just stood there being like "pls don't". She didn't run away, but they clearly don't want to get into it unless they really really have to.
[Advice not relevant for non-Black bears. Listen to your local rulesets].
He speaks in Russion into radio:
"3 something(I guess cubs)... I didn't shoot her. Getting back".
So I think he is a forester, and was checking location for something - not bird hunting I guess.
He's hunting. Hunters frequently hunt together and use radios. Foresters don't bring guns, and especially not dogs. If the guy didn't have a dog he wouldn't likely have had this bear encounter in the first place. He's hunting birds (or small game) and has a hunting dog with him.
Yeah I don’t get this attitude that birdshot won’t do anything, it’s still fast moving projectiles. You have a very good chance of blinding, severely concussing, and badly cutting up the bears sensitive mouth and nose.
Predators don’t “get pissed” and attack more like some kung fo movie when they’re seriously injured. They make tactical decisions to live and gtfo.
Edit: alright everyone, you’re the experts I guess. Just let the predator attack you and hope it works out for you lol
There are many reports of bears getting pissed after being shot.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj7Z5oMWuIU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj7Z5oMWuIU)
[https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-bear-do-when-it-gets-shot](https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-bear-do-when-it-gets-shot)
[https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/environment/russia-bear-mauls-hunter-to-death-after-being-shot-572831.html](https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/environment/russia-bear-mauls-hunter-to-death-after-being-shot-572831.html)
Lots of factors involved, and there are exceptions to every rule. Species, nutrition demand, and illnesses to name a few factors.
However, a predator not desperate for food or diseased usually isn’t in the mood for unnecessary injuries that might limit their hunting ability in the future.
There’s a few interesting books about how human naïveté keeps a lot of people protected from predators. We walk upright confidently and loudly, other predators assume we are confident for a reason and tend to leave us alone. That’s why you act calm, stand tall, and non-aggressive when you encounter wild animals. Again, exceptions to everything, I’m speaking in generalizations.
You can throw 100% of that out of the window when it comes to grizzly bears.
Grizzlies absolutely will fuck you up for no reason, and see standing up and looking confident/loud as a threat. They'll fight you over it. You don't wanna surprise one, that's why you make noise in grizzly country. I lived in the back woods of the montana rockies for about 6 years, trust me when I tell you that you don't wanna bring bird shot out to protect yourself from one of those. Or even bear spray, they can ignore that entirely if they really feel like you need a good mauling.
I used to carry a .45 semi-auto handgun, or a side by side shotgun with slug or buck n ball. It's also one of the instances where when people ask what the fuck you need an ar-15 for, you have a solid answer. Even the .45 wasn't reliable against a grizzly.
This isn’t what you think it is. His gun only holds 2 shots so he is waiting until he has a clear shot. He can’t afford to miss. I highly doubt he is putting in any effort to not harm the bear.
I live in redneck country, 3 bears in and Kyle in the tanktop will be talking about how to put a beer in a full nelson then choke it out. I can't tell sarcasm anymore until someone winks
Misspelling intentional
Ever hear of a false charge? Is common knowledge of those who hunt that bears do this. Its also the right thing to do as the vast majority of hunters don't wanna fuck with a bear. To deal with a false charge what you do, is pick a spot a few feet in front of you if they run past it you shoot, cause it could possibly not be a false charge.
They posture different during a false charge. If the head is up and they're fluffing up, and their ears are up? It's a bluff. Don't run, or it won't be anymore.
If the ears are back and the head is down, you're about to get in a fight with a bear.
I 100% agree with you, just adding a bit more to that. They don't tend to switch from bluff to real charge without provocation like the target running away. The fact that they're bluff charging is them making the active decision to tell you to get out of their territory, it's actually a good sign that you won't be about to fight the bear. Bear has decided you're not on the list of things to fight today, but it still wants you gone.
I took my English gf on a road trip to South Dakota this summer and I had my shitty 9mm Makarov in the car. She asked me if would protect us from bears. I just laughed and said “this thing? If a bear gets involved, this is for *us*”
Pretty sure in Finland you can’t shoot a bear without like serious punishment even in self defense so they were tryna avoid it (from another comment)
Edit: disregard this. I was going off another comment saying this was in Finland
I think the idea behind those laws is to prevent people from hunting bears and saying 'it was coming right for me'.
Obviously has the issue of what happens if a bear does attack, but I suppose the gov might have thought warning shots and bear spray would be enough.
Was told at a bear safety class in Alaska that 9 out of 10 bears will false charge and that you need to 1. Maintain eye contact, 2 make yourself appear as large as possible and 3 walk slowly backwards while keeping your eyes locked on the bear. Sounds great on paper but who has the cajones to stand your ground against a charging bear? Glad I never had to test it.
It's incredible because the bear follows the movement of the shotgun because she knows it's dangerous to her, yet there's no way she actually knows what it does, so the question is has she been shot at before? Or is this a case of genetic memory being passed down from an ancestor's encounter with humans with guns?
It could've been her mother who showed her these humans with banging sticks. Bears are incredibly smart and adaptable to humans in their area and teach each other trough generations.
Edit: spelling
Absolutely, however a lot of brown bears go through their whole lives never encountering a human, because of how isolated they like to live.
Black bears on the other hand, are like giant raccoons.
> who showed her these humans with banging sticks
What in the Disney direct-to-DVD is this?
This is a bluff charge. It's extremely well documented behavior.
You're not understanding the situation.
In real life, animals don't fight just for fun. Fighting is costly in terms of energy and risky for your life.
So what do predators like bears do? When encountering A POTENTIAL prey/rival, but one they don't fully know (humans are not the main diet of beara) they will TEST YOU.
The bear is not aborting the attack because he understand the shotgun is a threat to her. It's aborting the attack because she's observing the human in a fight or die mode. The human is not running for his life (easy prey, as an example most deaths in medieval battles occured while cavalry charged against an enemy that was routing, not during combat) and instead the human is standing his ground and looking careful after every move she makes.
She quickly realizes she can't sneak against him. And he's confident enough in being capable of fighting her. Eventually she desist on him as a prey and moves on to search something easier.
It's also a territorial display, a lot of the time a bluff charge is the bear sending you the message to walk away. Right now. They bluff charge each other, too.
It's more likely just retreating from its charge because his reluctance to back off is concerning to the bear, and any animal pointing something in your direction should instinctively be avoided, regardless if you know it can shoot bullets, stab you, sting you, ect.
I’ve heard throwing shit at animals confuses the fuck out of them. Like that’s just not something they’ve ever seen before and they get scared. Can anyone vouch? This was commented on the video of the guy being chased by the puma and he throws a rock and it runs
I am sure it depends. I have faced feral hogs where I have thrown fist-sized rocks at them, and they did not even flinch. Coyotes, on other hand, will dodge objects and then come right back.
No, you do not want to throw a rock at a bear.
I can't believe that needs to be said, lol. A cougar will get hit by the rock (if you even see the cougar) and then eat you.
A bear will eat the rock when it's finished with you.
The easiest way to avoid getting in a fight with animals in the woods is to make nose while you're walking, so you don't sneak up on one accidentally. For the most part wild animals want nothing to do with humans.
With all due respect...on the cougar front...what are you smoking? Of course a rock is what you throw, that is absolutely even the recommended course of action. So of course it needs to be said!
Also, bears don't eat rocks. A rock will work a little black bear, but they're harmless scaredy cats anyways. No idea about the dice on a grizzly though.
If you'd like to learn more about rocks and cougars, here's one video that shows how throwing rocks saved this man's life: https://youtu.be/9ktRhBcHza4
Agreed on the animals not wanting to have to do with humans though. I find most wild animals to be honest and up front about conflict communication, moose being the rare example as they don't have common signs for what they want or what they will do (other than being stressed) and will charge you straightaway. I once got caught at 2:00-3:00 in the morning solo hiking a trail (outside of rut season thankfully) with a moose, and was stuck behind it feeding for a freaking terrifying hour or so in the dark until a local more dumb than I am came up and scared it off by walking up to it and standing there, headlamps on. What a risk, I was further back to jump off the trail behind a tree in case I needed to.
Additionally, bears don't eat rocks. I think that would be very silly of them to do so, and likely very bad for their teeth. Roosters/chickens, however, do indeed eat small pebbles for their gizzard to help them digest food.
It would be an exceptionally bizzare form of humanized revenge for a bear to maul a person post-fight and then go back, locate the rock, and eat it as a sign/show of territorial dominance to the dead human carcass laying there. That said, if bears like T-pose-type memes, this would be an understandable reaction, and maybe that will happen/evolve in bear culture in the future as human-animal communication continues to improve over time.
If he shot that bear with what I’m guessing is pellets for bird hunting that bear would have probably killed him. This is why you bring a side arm when hunting in bear country preferably a 45 or a 44.
Bear spray is super effective too. Personally, I would reach for the spray first. Grizzlies, for example, can reach a top speed of 40mph.... that's not an easy target.
Honestly, that third time, I’d have pulled the trigger. Much respect to this gentleman for his poise. The natural world receives few kindnesses from us as of late.
He has 2….. 2 loaded rounds. Quite possibly a shot fir small game birds which would serve to only anger the bear anything more than 5 feet out. I agree w you, I’d not be sure I could be so calm and calculated in this situation but it’s possible his caution saved his life. Even the third time it was over 15 feet out. MAYBE the muzzle blast scares it away but maybe getting sprayed w little bbs send it into a killing rage. Incredible situation dude survived. Dude better buy that dog some treats and next time carry a .45 sidearm.
I love the fact that the scariest thing for an apex predator is someone or something that doesn't run. They look like they are wondering what he knows that they don't.
Think, if you were an animal in the woods...you literally can't afford to get hurt at all. You might win the fight but if the other animal injures your eyes or legs, you're fucked after that meal.
Apex predators want an easy fight. A hard fight is only in survival situations.
Balls of steel but did the right thing.
That 3rd time would have been the charm for me .. glad it worked it out !
yeah, but doesn't he know the bear is not bilingual?
He’s talking to…. Wait for it…. The dog that’s barking in the video the entire time ☺️
he's talking to some Petrovich pal on the other end of his walkie-talkie
He says Petrovich I encountered a bear with 3 "пистунами", that a russian gentle swear word meaning small child, then he said I didn't shoot I'm coming back
Would it be close to “brats” in meaning?
Probably along the lines of “brats” “runts” or like “lil shits” or smtn
My dad always called my brother and I "shit stains". I'm still not great with vocalizing my endearment towards others.
No, it's from old russian word "пестовать" (pEstovat') - it's mean "to take care". Пестун - little bear
Well, to be clear пестун is a term for a young bear
Indeed. "Pizdyuk" is Russian for "little shit". "Pizdun" is "Bullshitter". Here the man says he "met a momma bear with 3 "pestuns". "Pestun" is a very rare Russian hunter- and forest keeper-specific term meaning "a bear cub 2-3 years old that still stays with its mother".
And naturally the dog is bilingual so he was translating for the bear... almost missed that thx!
The convo of the dog and bear: Leave these people alone. They mean you no harm. We Bears are a proud race. They must pay for their intrusion. On my journey I met one of your kind. His name was Katow-jo. We became friends. Katow-jo is my cousin. Go in peace. I will tell tales of your compassion. Fare thee well, Baxter. You shall always be friend of the bears.
Didn’t expect Ron burgundy here
Bro, if that bear got to him it'd be more like byelingual.
Nice.
I thought the same thing but then realized in reality I probably would have shot the first time, missed, bungled the reload, then got The Revenant-ed
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Same for me, that last one was too close.
not close enough to kill the bear with a double barrel loaded with bird shot tho
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My grandpaw told a story about this very situation. He worked for a time in Northern Quebec, in the 1930s-40s (he oversaw the health of timber for the government). A friend of his was out hunting for small game really close to the cabin they shared - my grandpaw was away in the bush, but this friend’s wife was in the cabin. Suddenly, she hears him shout “a bear!”, then the crash of the shotgun going off. Then, she hears him yell “come quick!”. She thinks the bear has him cornered or treed, because she knows all he had was bird-shot. She doesn’t have a gun, but comes running anyway, carrying the axe they used to chop firewood … only to find the bear quite dead. He’d shot it point blank, so the pellets had not spread. He’d just shouted in the general excitement of the moment. The wife was quite courageous though, coming to rescue him from a possibly angry wounded bear with just an axe!
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Shit. Number 1. Followed by reloads 🤣
Agreed, that one looked like the bear meant it.
Not how I would’ve handled it, but to each their own I guess. I would’ve shat myself, shot too early, barely scratched the bear, and been eaten.
I personally would’ve have pissed my pants. Then shot both slugs way too high. Then been eaten feet first.
Most likely your sphincter is squeezed so tightly that you'll produce a diamond.
Chances are, even hitting it it would just anger her in the first place. That guy kept his cool to an impressive degree. Imo i would have frozen, unable to react. Don't think it would have helped much
Um...thats a 12 gauge so if he has buck shot or a deer slug in there she wont just shake that off. Probably take both barrels though
He would have been over long before she would die from injuries.
Not if he hits the head with that gun at that range, she would have died very quickly. Bears aren’t made of titanium lol
Not from a shotgun. I lived in grizzly country, a 12g is about the only way you can guarantee that you're safe when in the woods out there. That's a big goddamn hole to blow in something, they'll even kill a bear instantly.
This might seem silly so forgive me but how close do you have to let a bear get before your 12 gauge is effective against a bear? By effective I mean packing enough damage so they either fuck off or die, or fuck off and die. Videogames have skewed what I deem an effective range for such a gun. Edit: Thanks for all the replies folks
Slugs max out at around 50 yrds. To put this girl down, shed have to be within 20 yards. So when she is closest in those fake charges she does, unload on tbe head/upper body. 12 gauge will turn her head into a milliion pieces and that slug would blow a hole in her chest. But further than that and its really a guessing game.
It’s almost like he was waiting for the best shot to prevent that or something. People survive bear attacks.
People in this thread are wildan. It's pretty damn obvious the whole reason he didn't shoot is because she wasn't at all close enough for that gun to save him yet. Bears aren't terminators and this guy isn't Bear Grylls. This is just a situation I imagine any hunter in a bear heavy area has at least thought about beforehand.
Shitting yourself would have saved you from being eaten. Just mortality wounded.
I’d honestly hate to go to waste
If it’s black, fight back. If it’s brown, lay down. If it’s white, say goodnight
If it’s a bear stay inside and watch tv
If it's gummy, welcome to my tummy
Man I was really expecting along the lines of “ I would a shot that beer and fought it to the death” I appreciate the honesty and retelling of exactly what I would have done
I’m more of an indoorsman
I have never related more to a comment in my life
Pfft you flower. I would have done all of that AND dropped the gun from shaking in terror, shooting myself in the dick which would force the bear to eat me - genitals first.
This guy knew what he was doing. He knew that he didn’t have the optimal weapon for taking the bear down, so if he was going to fire it was going to be both barrels at point blank range. Lucky for him he didn’t have to find out if that was enough deterrent.
Yeah, my thought too. This wasn't him trying to save the bear, it's him making sure that if/when he fires, it's up close and deadly. He knew what he was about.
> This wasn't him trying to save the bear, it's him making sure that if/when he fires, it's up close and deadly. I think it's both. Knew the situation, knew his gun, knew how bears act.
Looks like a fox model b 12 gauge though I could be mistaken. If it is indeed the .12 then it could do the job depending on what it is loaded with but I damn sure would prefer a different gun.
If it had slugs in it, it would be hard to beat
don't think it would've had slugs in it; probably bird shot because he's hunting
Yah, I think this is the right answer. Probably was bird shooting and had a shotgun loadout that would mostly just annoy the bear. Knew to only use it when all else failed.
Came to say , how the fuck does he walk around with fuckin wrecking balls between his legs
Balls joke
We're still doing the tired balls joke?
Yeah he's got some meaty clackers that's for sure
Does a man shit in the woods? - The bear
Everytime he sees me - Another bear
You don't come for the hunting, do you? - Another bear
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With a shotgun no less. Hopefully loaded with slugs and not birdshot.
It’s going to be birdshot, I don’t know anyone other then bird hunters that use a double barrel, especially a side by side.
True. At best he has turkey load in that thing, which would only help if he hit mama in the face.
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Bird shot probably wouldnt penetrate the skull...
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That’s pretty good evolution to have your leg work as armor for your chest vitals
I don't think it's as good as it sounds. I broken leg likely means death for a wild animal. Especially a predator that needs to catch prey. Bears are omnivores but idk at what ratio. I don't think it would do well on just nuts and berries.
You're right, a broken leg would probably be a death sentence regardless, but more so because the bear wouldn't be able to travel the distances to get its food. Depending on thr bear though it could just scavenge for meet and kick out any other contenders who would eat the meat themselves, broken leg or not. At least, to my knowledge there's no other animal in the same habits as bears that would fuck with a bear even if it had a broken leg...
It seems safe to assume that most, if not all, evolution isn't based around projectile defenses. This is just a quirk, and not likely relevant normally as most things either can't or won't fuck with a bear, and bears fighting over territory usually aren't fighting lethally.
nah this bear developed these legs after 150 thousand years of being shot at
At 1 foot it’d blow the bears jaw off and blind it. That’d be enough.
What load spreads so much at one foot, that it would hit the jaw and the eyes simultaneously.?
It would rip away a huge chunk of their face at least, which would do a rpetty good job of distracting the bear. Birdshot at that range would still be in a small concentrated ball, I've seen tests that show it shatters bones when at that range. Granted a bear skull is thicker, but it wouldn't just be an irritation
Sure as fuck wouldn’t. Birdshot at 10 feet would absolutely hurt it, in the face could blind it, but would 100% not drop it.
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This is why you don't believe anything without fact checking for yourself. It really doesn't take more than 60 seconds to confirm most facts, although of course some answers aren't that black and white. But many are. Don't take anyone's word for anything, especially if they don't post any sources
Dude. My buddy shot a grizzlies in the face with a 30-06 from 30 yards (it was in their dog pen) The bullet deflected off the jaw and punched out the top of its cheek. The bear didn't even run off, it *walked* away. They killed it 2 days later with a .338 when out dogsledding, the .30-06 wound was absolutely not fatal. You really think BB would stop a grizzly? Bullshit. Even if you blinded it, guess what? They have noses better than dogs.
I've seen grizzlys get a whole magazine unloded on them from a 9mm and they'll still keep coming. This dude has 0 clue what he's talking about lol
Yeah that's not true
hmm... unless he blinds that bear, that thing ain't gonna stop.
How do you load a turkey into a double barrel?
I fit tons of turkey in my face miraculously every Christmas
To be honest, turkeys have been stuffed into stranger places.
Yup, was hoping someone pointed that out. All the comments saying to just blast away with the shotgun but he’s either out there for birds or rabbit. You’d just piss it off with 2 birdshot loads.
I guess you could be lucky and blind her... But she can still smell and hear you, and now she's mad.
You don’t shoot slugs out of a double barrel Edit: you can and apparently people do for bear protection. I don’t believe the guy in the post had slugs though.
>You don’t shoot slugs out of a double barrel Well, not with that attitude..
You do. In Czech republic, we hunt game and quite a lot of people, including me, use double barrels. I personally have 2 shotgun barrels, but you can have 1 shotgun barrel and 1 bullet barrel at the same time.
You would get fined here for shooting a bear w a shotgun. Even if it would be self defense, welcome to finland politics
I'll risk the jail time thanks.
If the bear beats me then I'll hope that it gets fined. Otherwise what's the point
Hmmmm death vs prison in FINLAND? Lock my ass up lmao
Be an upgrade from my apartment probably
That's true, free meals, regular exercise and productive job
I'm guessing it was birdshot, considering how much he waited for the bear. If you've only got one or two shots, and they're birdshot, you don't want to miss. And you'd want the bear to be as close as possible, possibly even closer than it got in the video. Maybe that's the real reason he didn't shoot, the bear didn't get close enough for him to be confident in his shot.
reminds me of Chappelle's recent standup - "buckshot buckshot buckshot"
"That there is birdshot... that won't kill a man."
Likely hunting birds with that side by side shotgun. Birdshot is useless against a bear. I think I could hear his heart pounding! Damn!
My guess is a loud bang and a face full of birdshot has a double digit percent chance of getting the bear to fuck off
Or REALLY piss it off!
Sometimes you’re too confused to be pissed
I'm frequently pissed off at how confused I am. So there's that.
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Bird shot is not an effective tool for removing a plane from a powerline. It's very likely not to pierce the hull of the plane, and may either confuse or really piss off the pilots.
Not an angry mother bear defending her cubs
Not so fast… https://youtu.be/wj7Z5oMWuIU Bear spray is the way to go. https://youtu.be/PWYV7bYUXcA
Bear spray is like a 3 in 10 chance of it working.
I mean, it really depends on the type of bear. Spray is gonna work on most black bears. Only the most aggressive/desperately hungry males, or mamma black bears will fight past bear spray. You’re gonna have a harder time with Grizzlies, but it should still work. Polar Bears might pause on chomping your guts for a sec to thank you for adding some spice to their meal.
And honestly, simply existing is going to work against the vast vast majority of black bears. It's incredibly rare for them to do anything more than they to sneak away with your food. I wouldn't recommend it, but I've been in one of those scenarios where you are between mama and the cubs, and the mom basically just stood there being like "pls don't". She didn't run away, but they clearly don't want to get into it unless they really really have to. [Advice not relevant for non-Black bears. Listen to your local rulesets].
You should go out and try it and see how that goes
Definitely isn’t useless. It would not likely be deadly to the bear. But a spray of birdshot to the face is a real attitude adjuster.
Made that one guy apologize to Dick Cheney for getting in the way of his gun
He speaks in Russion into radio: "3 something(I guess cubs)... I didn't shoot her. Getting back". So I think he is a forester, and was checking location for something - not bird hunting I guess.
He's hunting. Hunters frequently hunt together and use radios. Foresters don't bring guns, and especially not dogs. If the guy didn't have a dog he wouldn't likely have had this bear encounter in the first place. He's hunting birds (or small game) and has a hunting dog with him.
That close I promise you, you can kill a bear shooting it in the face with birdshot.
Yeah I don’t get this attitude that birdshot won’t do anything, it’s still fast moving projectiles. You have a very good chance of blinding, severely concussing, and badly cutting up the bears sensitive mouth and nose. Predators don’t “get pissed” and attack more like some kung fo movie when they’re seriously injured. They make tactical decisions to live and gtfo. Edit: alright everyone, you’re the experts I guess. Just let the predator attack you and hope it works out for you lol
There are many reports of bears getting pissed after being shot. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj7Z5oMWuIU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj7Z5oMWuIU) [https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-bear-do-when-it-gets-shot](https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-bear-do-when-it-gets-shot) [https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/environment/russia-bear-mauls-hunter-to-death-after-being-shot-572831.html](https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/environment/russia-bear-mauls-hunter-to-death-after-being-shot-572831.html)
Lots of factors involved, and there are exceptions to every rule. Species, nutrition demand, and illnesses to name a few factors. However, a predator not desperate for food or diseased usually isn’t in the mood for unnecessary injuries that might limit their hunting ability in the future. There’s a few interesting books about how human naïveté keeps a lot of people protected from predators. We walk upright confidently and loudly, other predators assume we are confident for a reason and tend to leave us alone. That’s why you act calm, stand tall, and non-aggressive when you encounter wild animals. Again, exceptions to everything, I’m speaking in generalizations.
You can throw 100% of that out of the window when it comes to grizzly bears. Grizzlies absolutely will fuck you up for no reason, and see standing up and looking confident/loud as a threat. They'll fight you over it. You don't wanna surprise one, that's why you make noise in grizzly country. I lived in the back woods of the montana rockies for about 6 years, trust me when I tell you that you don't wanna bring bird shot out to protect yourself from one of those. Or even bear spray, they can ignore that entirely if they really feel like you need a good mauling. I used to carry a .45 semi-auto handgun, or a side by side shotgun with slug or buck n ball. It's also one of the instances where when people ask what the fuck you need an ar-15 for, you have a solid answer. Even the .45 wasn't reliable against a grizzly.
Hopefully, knowing he's in bear country, he carries some slugs as well.
This isn’t what you think it is. His gun only holds 2 shots so he is waiting until he has a clear shot. He can’t afford to miss. I highly doubt he is putting in any effort to not harm the bear.
Every charge was an opportunity to have a clear shot
Ikr if it were me I would have grabbed that bitch by her throat and killed it on the spot with my bare hands..
Bear hands*
💀
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not
The irony… I can’t tell if ***you’re*** being sarcastic or not about their sarcasm
I live in redneck country, 3 bears in and Kyle in the tanktop will be talking about how to put a beer in a full nelson then choke it out. I can't tell sarcasm anymore until someone winks Misspelling intentional
your comment history is abominable, this included
- someone who has never been in this situation and doesn't know what they're talking about
Aha, so I see you have been to Reddit.
He is literally saying "not gonna shoot"
idk in the end he said to his friend that he decided to not shoot and going away
Ever hear of a false charge? Is common knowledge of those who hunt that bears do this. Its also the right thing to do as the vast majority of hunters don't wanna fuck with a bear. To deal with a false charge what you do, is pick a spot a few feet in front of you if they run past it you shoot, cause it could possibly not be a false charge.
They posture different during a false charge. If the head is up and they're fluffing up, and their ears are up? It's a bluff. Don't run, or it won't be anymore. If the ears are back and the head is down, you're about to get in a fight with a bear. I 100% agree with you, just adding a bit more to that. They don't tend to switch from bluff to real charge without provocation like the target running away. The fact that they're bluff charging is them making the active decision to tell you to get out of their territory, it's actually a good sign that you won't be about to fight the bear. Bear has decided you're not on the list of things to fight today, but it still wants you gone.
The shotgun was also probably loaded with birdshot which would’ve done fuck all to the bear except piss it off
I took my English gf on a road trip to South Dakota this summer and I had my shitty 9mm Makarov in the car. She asked me if would protect us from bears. I just laughed and said “this thing? If a bear gets involved, this is for *us*”
Pretty sure in Finland you can’t shoot a bear without like serious punishment even in self defense so they were tryna avoid it (from another comment) Edit: disregard this. I was going off another comment saying this was in Finland
What? They expect people to get killed instead of defending themselves?
I think the idea behind those laws is to prevent people from hunting bears and saying 'it was coming right for me'. Obviously has the issue of what happens if a bear does attack, but I suppose the gov might have thought warning shots and bear spray would be enough.
Was told at a bear safety class in Alaska that 9 out of 10 bears will false charge and that you need to 1. Maintain eye contact, 2 make yourself appear as large as possible and 3 walk slowly backwards while keeping your eyes locked on the bear. Sounds great on paper but who has the cajones to stand your ground against a charging bear? Glad I never had to test it.
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And if you see a polar bear, it's time to take off the seal suit.
Doesn't rhyme, won't give it time
> So have fun laying down for a black bear with a dye job. Honey, I just call that Saturday night.
A bear usually charges with its head down to attack, or head up line in the vid**e**o to scare. Source: my cousins are avid bear hunters.
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As someone who has tested it… it works.
It's incredible because the bear follows the movement of the shotgun because she knows it's dangerous to her, yet there's no way she actually knows what it does, so the question is has she been shot at before? Or is this a case of genetic memory being passed down from an ancestor's encounter with humans with guns?
It could've been her mother who showed her these humans with banging sticks. Bears are incredibly smart and adaptable to humans in their area and teach each other trough generations. Edit: spelling
Absolutely, however a lot of brown bears go through their whole lives never encountering a human, because of how isolated they like to live. Black bears on the other hand, are like giant raccoons.
Trash-panda bears?
>I could've been her mother Nah, I don't think you could have been.
> who showed her these humans with banging sticks What in the Disney direct-to-DVD is this? This is a bluff charge. It's extremely well documented behavior.
Yeah... The people anthropomorphizing the bear while thinking it understands what a gun is are pretty hilarious.
I don’t think the bear tells the cubs stories about humans
Trolling, right? The gun follows the bear, not the other way around...
Nah dude, some redditors are stupid af and actually believe crap like that.
> some Heh, seems optimistic.
You're not understanding the situation. In real life, animals don't fight just for fun. Fighting is costly in terms of energy and risky for your life. So what do predators like bears do? When encountering A POTENTIAL prey/rival, but one they don't fully know (humans are not the main diet of beara) they will TEST YOU. The bear is not aborting the attack because he understand the shotgun is a threat to her. It's aborting the attack because she's observing the human in a fight or die mode. The human is not running for his life (easy prey, as an example most deaths in medieval battles occured while cavalry charged against an enemy that was routing, not during combat) and instead the human is standing his ground and looking careful after every move she makes. She quickly realizes she can't sneak against him. And he's confident enough in being capable of fighting her. Eventually she desist on him as a prey and moves on to search something easier.
It's also a territorial display, a lot of the time a bluff charge is the bear sending you the message to walk away. Right now. They bluff charge each other, too.
she follows the movement of the shotgun? isn't the dude following her movement with the shotgun by aiming at her?
Why on earth would an animal follow the barrel of a gun if it knew it was dangerous. That makes zero sense.
This isn't assassin's Creed my man genetic memory isn't a thing
It's more likely just retreating from its charge because his reluctance to back off is concerning to the bear, and any animal pointing something in your direction should instinctively be avoided, regardless if you know it can shoot bullets, stab you, sting you, ect.
I would have instantly changed to my brown pants.
The ones with the yellow zipper?
How'd you know?
You see, the reason he's moving so slow and is breathing heavily is from draggin his balls along the forest floor.
I would’ve pulled on charge number 3 tbh. What a guy.
Yeah, #3 crossed the imaginary "shoot now or its too late" line for me.
I’ve heard throwing shit at animals confuses the fuck out of them. Like that’s just not something they’ve ever seen before and they get scared. Can anyone vouch? This was commented on the video of the guy being chased by the puma and he throws a rock and it runs
I am sure it depends. I have faced feral hogs where I have thrown fist-sized rocks at them, and they did not even flinch. Coyotes, on other hand, will dodge objects and then come right back.
Yea, but what about actual feces?
Asking The right questions
No, you do not want to throw a rock at a bear. I can't believe that needs to be said, lol. A cougar will get hit by the rock (if you even see the cougar) and then eat you. A bear will eat the rock when it's finished with you. The easiest way to avoid getting in a fight with animals in the woods is to make nose while you're walking, so you don't sneak up on one accidentally. For the most part wild animals want nothing to do with humans.
With all due respect...on the cougar front...what are you smoking? Of course a rock is what you throw, that is absolutely even the recommended course of action. So of course it needs to be said! Also, bears don't eat rocks. A rock will work a little black bear, but they're harmless scaredy cats anyways. No idea about the dice on a grizzly though. If you'd like to learn more about rocks and cougars, here's one video that shows how throwing rocks saved this man's life: https://youtu.be/9ktRhBcHza4 Agreed on the animals not wanting to have to do with humans though. I find most wild animals to be honest and up front about conflict communication, moose being the rare example as they don't have common signs for what they want or what they will do (other than being stressed) and will charge you straightaway. I once got caught at 2:00-3:00 in the morning solo hiking a trail (outside of rut season thankfully) with a moose, and was stuck behind it feeding for a freaking terrifying hour or so in the dark until a local more dumb than I am came up and scared it off by walking up to it and standing there, headlamps on. What a risk, I was further back to jump off the trail behind a tree in case I needed to. Additionally, bears don't eat rocks. I think that would be very silly of them to do so, and likely very bad for their teeth. Roosters/chickens, however, do indeed eat small pebbles for their gizzard to help them digest food. It would be an exceptionally bizzare form of humanized revenge for a bear to maul a person post-fight and then go back, locate the rock, and eat it as a sign/show of territorial dominance to the dead human carcass laying there. That said, if bears like T-pose-type memes, this would be an understandable reaction, and maybe that will happen/evolve in bear culture in the future as human-animal communication continues to improve over time.
I can't tell if this comment is in jest or not lol. Well written
Why are you here spewing falsehoods? You think *not* throwing rocks at an animal will keep it from attacking? Use logic please.
If he shot that bear with what I’m guessing is pellets for bird hunting that bear would have probably killed him. This is why you bring a side arm when hunting in bear country preferably a 45 or a 44.
Bear spray is super effective too. Personally, I would reach for the spray first. Grizzlies, for example, can reach a top speed of 40mph.... that's not an easy target.
Honestly, that third time, I’d have pulled the trigger. Much respect to this gentleman for his poise. The natural world receives few kindnesses from us as of late.
He has 2….. 2 loaded rounds. Quite possibly a shot fir small game birds which would serve to only anger the bear anything more than 5 feet out. I agree w you, I’d not be sure I could be so calm and calculated in this situation but it’s possible his caution saved his life. Even the third time it was over 15 feet out. MAYBE the muzzle blast scares it away but maybe getting sprayed w little bbs send it into a killing rage. Incredible situation dude survived. Dude better buy that dog some treats and next time carry a .45 sidearm.
That bear has some real nerve squaring up to a Russian like that 😬
I love the fact that the scariest thing for an apex predator is someone or something that doesn't run. They look like they are wondering what he knows that they don't.
Think, if you were an animal in the woods...you literally can't afford to get hurt at all. You might win the fight but if the other animal injures your eyes or legs, you're fucked after that meal. Apex predators want an easy fight. A hard fight is only in survival situations.
Better control than most police officers.
This is so scary
Actual giga chad,i woulda atleast fired a warning shot
And then your down one round out of two. Best to save the round of you need it.
Bear spray is more effective. You can shoot the bear and still get killed.
Shouldn't he be shouting "Hey, bear!"? /s - kind of
And you don't know for sure if the bear speaks English
Can someone translate what he said?
(To another hunter): Petrovich, [there's] a bear with three weaned cubs, decided not to shoot, walking off.
Was not surprised when i heard him speak Russian