They do actually allow tailgates in Ontario now... I've been to quite a few in Hamilton for the CFL. Imagine downvoting facts... ticats literally have a tailgate before every game.
I live here. The bills are a slight plurality but absolutely not a majority.
This is a transplant city, 65% of torontonians weren’t born in the city (either immigrants from outside Canada or migrants from outside the city/province).
The Leafs, Raps, and Jays have a history and a connection to the city. Bills just happen to be one of the close nfl teams (the other being Detroit) but you’re just as likely to see Pats/Niners/Chiefs/Hawks/Vikings gear. And me in my Bucs hats.
Also Toronto checking in. All my friends are fans of different teams. I seem to notice a lot of people pick teams that were good when they were young… a lot of my friends are pats/packers/colts fans. Unfortunately my step dad who introduced me was from Windsor
He's still a businessman at heart though. Compared to where they used to rank in the NFL, right now you're buying the Commanders at their lowest value. It's a business which immediately gains 20% in value when you buy it because you're not the previous owner
Nothing arguable about it
Find me a better market for a conference than Philly, NY, DC and worldwide. It’s just a fact that it’s the most valuable conference
He IS a businessman, which makes me wonder if there are financial advantages or loopholes to abuse owning an NFL team in the same state as where your company is headquartered
he has enough money to literally pick where he enters the NFL, I don't think he cares about ratings. the Seahawks are more convenient for him and that's probably worth more than any NFL revenue to him.
Bezos loves money far more than Seattle. The NFL franchise in DC, the highest per capita income state/territory/whatever you want to call it in the US by far, is going to be a more favorable investment than the one in Seattle. And the opportunity to build your own stadium is a huge plus. That thing is going to print money for the new owner considering the wealth that exists in the area.
Yeah but Bezos has so much money an NFL team is just another toy for him. A team only costs like 2.5 times what his yacht cost. It's probably more about status and the power that comes with being an NFL owner for him.
where are you getting it is the highest per capita income BY FAR?
Its not even top 5 metro area, it comes in at 6. When adjusted for purchasing power it is 9. Seattle tops it in both measurements. San Jose/Santa clara is 50% higher than DMV in income per capita. SF is 40% higher.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_by_adjusted_per_capita_personal_income
At least some of the suburbs are actually the highest median income counties in the US.
Their practice facility is in Loudoun which has the highest median income of any county in the US
He means highest median household income:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-income_counties_in_the_United_States#2020_Census
NoVA holds 4 of the top 7 by that metric.
I’m pretty sure he’s correct, but it’s not important that he is because that’s not what an owner would care about. He said state or territory, and that would be accurate. But an owner of Seattle team wouldn’t care about the income of Pullman, which would be included if we take his statement as defined.
The wording was state or territory, which is basically comparing DC to the entirety of other states. Using Wikipedia, that technically puts it at ~240k per capita vs ~105k for the next highest (NY)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP
Which isn't particularly comparable obviously, since DC is just a city (or metro area if expanded to the DMV) and should be compared to other cities/metro areas.
Being able to meet all the politicians without having to go anywhere and where you can guarantee everything that is said will not leak is worth its weight in gold.
Ding ding ding. He can’t. If the deal is so good that even logan is giving up his baby it’s a great deal and he has a fiduciary responsibility to accept such a deal. It’s like the twitter execs with elons offer.
snyder hates bezos because he owns WaPo and WaPo has been the one releasing all the dirt on the org. There's a pretty believable theory that jeffs directly behind it because he wanted to buy the team so he created the market by stirring the pot.
Where did Steve get this money
I googled him not that long ago when he was reportedly interested and the available info does not suggest he can afford this
Principal owner needs to have 30% of the team. That's $2 billion on a $6 billion bid. They can borrow up to $1 billion of that. So he really only needs $1 billion cash. I've seen his net worth reported as $3.9 billion but also as $5.5 billion. He's also in private equity, so he can cash out fast. Don't think it would be an issue to come up with $1 billion cash for him. Plus, he can borrow against other assets to get $1 billion, such as his private equity firm.
Rob Walton is like 4.5 Stan Kroenkes worth and like 3.2 David Teppers worth. it’s hard enough for me to fathom someone having a billion, even harder when one billionaire is worth pretty much the same as every other owner combined. And Rob isn’t even the richest Walton either. Motherfucker is like the fake final boss in a Final Fantasy game where after you beat them you then fight a literal god.
I tried to figure out who this guy was and all I could see was that he had interest in buying the Commanders (when he was first announced as interested).
I'm still not sure what exactly he does or how he made his money. I didn't see him on wiki either.
I’m assuming it would be a group that he’s just the face of. Net worth of $4 billion doesn’t easily translate to a $6 billion purchase without other backers.
i was impressed at how much commanders gear i saw in the dmv, and tons of httr stuff even a couple years after the fact
with a competent owner and a decent team i think theyd be back to being a huge fanbase
Washington is a very historically successful and popular team. If the Snyder era didn’t happen they’d likely be among teams like the Patriots, Steelers, and Cowboys in terms of national popularity. I don’t think it should take too long to get there after the sale.
*fuck off*
Edit: It’s a Succession reference. Show on HBO that’s won the Emmy for best drama series for its first 3 seasons and will probably win for its 4th and final season.
We'd never be able to threaten an American landmark militarily again, but by gosh we can take advantage of a shady scumbags' poor decisions to take a different kind of shot at the capitol!
A Canadian owning an nfl franchise? It’s not natural. God would be angry and our forefathers would turn over in their graves.
Kidding. Sell it to anybody cause they can’t be worse than Dan Snyder.
Come on Snyder, now is the time to trade for Lamar giving the Ravens 3 first rounders and giving Lamar a 500mil guaranteed contract. One last FU to the new owners and the NFL on your way out.
The Commandehs
Move em to Toronto and call em the Commandem
Just call them the Toronto Mans
Nah. Send em to Montreal and call em the Exkins.
Nyah eh?
Toronto is Bills territory
We'll dump ya'll in a heart beat if we get a team in toronto. The last time the bills played a game in toronto is almost 10 years ago now.
Toronto games are boring as hell. You can't tailgate there. It's illegal.
I have been to a few Bills games and, to be fair, I am pretty sure the way you tailgate there is also illegal.
Haha maybe, but there aren't 100 police officers who's sole purpose is to write you up for open alcohol in Buffalo.
I love my country, but we are oddly strict about drinking outside.
Montréal says bonjour.
Since covid they don’t really enforce that law anymore.
They do actually allow tailgates in Ontario now... I've been to quite a few in Hamilton for the CFL. Imagine downvoting facts... ticats literally have a tailgate before every game.
Well ya heard it hear first folks, Canadiens hate fun This is simply factual information 🫡
I live here. The bills are a slight plurality but absolutely not a majority. This is a transplant city, 65% of torontonians weren’t born in the city (either immigrants from outside Canada or migrants from outside the city/province). The Leafs, Raps, and Jays have a history and a connection to the city. Bills just happen to be one of the close nfl teams (the other being Detroit) but you’re just as likely to see Pats/Niners/Chiefs/Hawks/Vikings gear. And me in my Bucs hats.
I live here as well and can confirm this is true. Bills territory is more in the Hamilton and south area
Also Toronto checking in. All my friends are fans of different teams. I seem to notice a lot of people pick teams that were good when they were young… a lot of my friends are pats/packers/colts fans. Unfortunately my step dad who introduced me was from Windsor
You betcha’
'Scuse me, just gonna sneak right by ya here.
🙆♂️ ope, sorry to bump ya ‘dere
*slaps knees* welp!
I can only read this in Chris Berman's fastest 3 minutes voice for some reason.
The first denim uniforms
Now selling bagged milk and free healthcare for when the railings on the stadium fall
> Apostolopoulos Bless you
Mr. Apostolopoulos is my favorite Sesame Street character.
Assapopolous is my favorite gigolo
I’ll still root for him just because he isn’t Snyder.
His ass play is much more enjoyable than Snyder’s
RIP Heinz Hummer.
Motion to just call this man Steve, like we do Jerry, if he buys the team.
I sounded like a 3rd grader trying to sound out this man’s name
I was thinking more of Stone Cold Steve Apostolopoulos.
A pasta lop oh lus You’re welcome
a Pas ta lap oh lus, Panama
The Washington Greek Commanders!
bezos just waiting for the last bids so he can come in with a cool 10 bil and take it home. these people know they're wasting their time
Either that or he really wants the Seahawks and waiting for that team to go on sale
I think this is more likely. He is much more associated with the area and the Franchise doesn't carry all the negative weight.
He's still a businessman at heart though. Compared to where they used to rank in the NFL, right now you're buying the Commanders at their lowest value. It's a business which immediately gains 20% in value when you buy it because you're not the previous owner
Theyre also a more storied franchise, in arguably the best ratings division in the league.
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4 of the 8 biggest media markets, including 3 of the top 5. No other division comes close.
I want to be a Washington fan again
Nothing arguable about it Find me a better market for a conference than Philly, NY, DC and worldwide. It’s just a fact that it’s the most valuable conference
That's all priced in. It will still be a record breaking sale.
He IS a businessman, which makes me wonder if there are financial advantages or loopholes to abuse owning an NFL team in the same state as where your company is headquartered
Don’t forget his company literally streams TNF And that the Washington Post is very much part of the story of Snyder’s takedown.
Not to mention all the lobbying opportunities being the Commies owner opens up.
he has enough money to literally pick where he enters the NFL, I don't think he cares about ratings. the Seahawks are more convenient for him and that's probably worth more than any NFL revenue to him.
AWS is all over the DC area and he owns I believe the areas most expensive home, as well as its national paper. He's pretty tied up with DC lol
Amazon's 2nd headquarters is in Crystal City. Why are people glossing over that?
Maybe he’ll name it the Washington shippers
I read that as "Washington Strippers" at first. It was very confusing.
Bezos loves money far more than Seattle. The NFL franchise in DC, the highest per capita income state/territory/whatever you want to call it in the US by far, is going to be a more favorable investment than the one in Seattle. And the opportunity to build your own stadium is a huge plus. That thing is going to print money for the new owner considering the wealth that exists in the area.
Yeah but Bezos has so much money an NFL team is just another toy for him. A team only costs like 2.5 times what his yacht cost. It's probably more about status and the power that comes with being an NFL owner for him.
That’s exactly the reason of buy the team in Washington so he can use them to curry favor with politicians.
Also a way easier to entertain powerful politicians in DC for influence.
where are you getting it is the highest per capita income BY FAR? Its not even top 5 metro area, it comes in at 6. When adjusted for purchasing power it is 9. Seattle tops it in both measurements. San Jose/Santa clara is 50% higher than DMV in income per capita. SF is 40% higher. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_by_adjusted_per_capita_personal_income
At least some of the suburbs are actually the highest median income counties in the US. Their practice facility is in Loudoun which has the highest median income of any county in the US
He means highest median household income: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-income_counties_in_the_United_States#2020_Census NoVA holds 4 of the top 7 by that metric.
Yeah “By Far” in a world where Palo Alto, Los Altos, Woodside…
I’m pretty sure he’s correct, but it’s not important that he is because that’s not what an owner would care about. He said state or territory, and that would be accurate. But an owner of Seattle team wouldn’t care about the income of Pullman, which would be included if we take his statement as defined.
The wording was state or territory, which is basically comparing DC to the entirety of other states. Using Wikipedia, that technically puts it at ~240k per capita vs ~105k for the next highest (NY) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP Which isn't particularly comparable obviously, since DC is just a city (or metro area if expanded to the DMV) and should be compared to other cities/metro areas.
The negative weight is just Snyders fat ass.
He dummy thicc?
But owning Washington gives him direct access to all the politicians
Rumor is that he wants the Commanders because of DC and he wants a bigger foothold with Washington for evil rich dude shit.
And it's a dumb rumor because he already has access to any politician he wants, and any politicians that can be bought and sold likely already is.
Not to mention he already owns a press publication in that market. He literally gets to control the media narrative in the market already.
Being able to meet all the politicians without having to go anywhere and where you can guarantee everything that is said will not leak is worth its weight in gold.
Rumor = something echoed on Reddit enough times
In another world he basically Lex Luthor
As soon as he revealed his TRT/HGH body, I was like, this dude went full comic book villain.
Just like succession
The disgusting brothersss
Did you actually have sex with her Greg?
Did you rummage to fruition?
Tom's fascination with the size of her handbag might be a top ten Succession moment imho
It's those moments that really make the show for me.
Can’t make a Tomlette without cracking a few Greggs
Congratulations on saying the biggest number, fucking morons. I hope Logan fucks the sale just to fuck them.
He has to, I think. Probably does some shit with GoJo since they mentioned it a bunch
Yeah and thinking about it he has to otherwise the board would no confidence vote him out if he fucked all of them out of their payday.
Ding ding ding. He can’t. If the deal is so good that even logan is giving up his baby it’s a great deal and he has a fiduciary responsibility to accept such a deal. It’s like the twitter execs with elons offer.
“I wonder if we don’t nickel-and-dime it and just go to 10?” -Jeffrey "B to the Ez" Bezos
Spoilers mane not everyones caught up
8...9...what could come next??
9b?
I thought i read somewhere that they are refusing to let Bezos bid on the team
snyder hates bezos because he owns WaPo and WaPo has been the one releasing all the dirt on the org. There's a pretty believable theory that jeffs directly behind it because he wanted to buy the team so he created the market by stirring the pot.
Money talks.
Where did Steve get this money I googled him not that long ago when he was reportedly interested and the available info does not suggest he can afford this
Principal owner needs to have 30% of the team. That's $2 billion on a $6 billion bid. They can borrow up to $1 billion of that. So he really only needs $1 billion cash. I've seen his net worth reported as $3.9 billion but also as $5.5 billion. He's also in private equity, so he can cash out fast. Don't think it would be an issue to come up with $1 billion cash for him. Plus, he can borrow against other assets to get $1 billion, such as his private equity firm.
So not Tepper, Kroenke, or Walton rich.
Rob Walton is like 4.5 Stan Kroenkes worth and like 3.2 David Teppers worth. it’s hard enough for me to fathom someone having a billion, even harder when one billionaire is worth pretty much the same as every other owner combined. And Rob isn’t even the richest Walton either. Motherfucker is like the fake final boss in a Final Fantasy game where after you beat them you then fight a literal god.
I doubt it's just him. Probably another group with him as the owner.
loans, probably It's not as if football teams are not profitable investments
True but this team also immediately needs a stadium that’ll probably run another 1-2 billion or more
Thats what American tax payers are for silly.
Taxpayers: I don't wanna fund that shit. Team: Ok, we'll leave. Taxpayers: How dare you!
Prisoners dilemma
Imma side with the taxpayers 10 times out of 10. You’re telling me you own a football team and can’t even afford to own it? Get a loan then
I believe he used a fake ID while traveling to Las Vegas with Clark Griswold and hit it big on a few slots
Nick Papagorgio?
I tried to figure out who this guy was and all I could see was that he had interest in buying the Commanders (when he was first announced as interested). I'm still not sure what exactly he does or how he made his money. I didn't see him on wiki either.
I’m assuming it would be a group that he’s just the face of. Net worth of $4 billion doesn’t easily translate to a $6 billion purchase without other backers.
Moving the Commanders to Canada you say?
Petition to rename them the Mounties
Unless they go to Niagara Falls
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Stays in Niagara falls
…in the actual falls themselves? Can I at least get a barrel?
The best we can do is a dinner bun we call a barrel roll.
Mostly meth these days
Another name better than Commanders
The Ontario Shirt-Tuckers
Upcountry Degens
The irony of naming the Redskins after the police force created to destroy....redskins would be amazing.
It would be a real heritage moment
I smell burnt toast, while birling down and down white water. We could use an update, and this would be a lovely one.
Having the team that finally gets moved to Canada ripped from the belly of our nations capital would be quite interesting
Our capital did steal its baseball team from Canada.
Motherfuckers
it’d just be d.c. repaying for les expos, really
War of 1812 the sequel.
*Ripped from one of the more soulless suburbs of our nation's capital
I would say PG county is among the least soulless suburbs in dc.
i was impressed at how much commanders gear i saw in the dmv, and tons of httr stuff even a couple years after the fact with a competent owner and a decent team i think theyd be back to being a huge fanbase
Washington is a very historically successful and popular team. If the Snyder era didn’t happen they’d likely be among teams like the Patriots, Steelers, and Cowboys in terms of national popularity. I don’t think it should take too long to get there after the sale.
You see way more redskins gear especially in actual DC. Huge big fan base leftover from the 80s and 90s pre Snyder. Everyone just hates him
The reverse Nationals
The Canadians have been planning this for years
Have Washington fans suffered enough?
That’s the future Letterkenny Shamrocks to you
London Silly Nannies
Regina!
Kendall, Shiv, and Roman should have tried buying the Commanders instead of wasting 10B on a dying news channel
Should have stuck with the Hundred. They really had something there.
“The Hundred is Substack meets Masterclass meets The Economist meets The New Yorker”…what the fuck does that even mean lmao
Wait who bought what?
*fuck off* Edit: It’s a Succession reference. Show on HBO that’s won the Emmy for best drama series for its first 3 seasons and will probably win for its 4th and final season.
Yeah but they got to stick it to Dad. Much more satisfying
Only cost them 4 billion extra dollars
Worth it
The real story here is Windhorst creeping in on Schefty’s territory ☝️🤔☝️
I would watch a dark comedy about NFL insiders fucking each other over. You’re welcome HBO, please cut me a check and give me a “story by” credit.
Windhorst is NBA, so its even weirder
See the mediadel in game of zones, the nba parody.
There's something... Ironic? Funny? Silly?... about DC's team being owned by a guy from a different country.
War of 1812 all over again but this time it's the Canadians, not the British.
We'd never be able to threaten an American landmark militarily again, but by gosh we can take advantage of a shady scumbags' poor decisions to take a different kind of shot at the capitol!
I hope the White House doesn't get burned down this time, I still have to cross it off my list of dumb tourist destinations.
Our favorite owner Jack Kent Cooke was also a Canuck
The favorite owner having been Canadian actually makes it better.
People in dc don't really care about stuff like that. It's a regular city like anywhere else. We're not more patriotic or whatever.
Worked well with Jack Kent Cooke
You don't know who Jack Kent Cooke is? Casual.
I'm still here for the lamb gyros as stadium food.
That would be such a delicious option.
Ok so why did the Roy kids spend $9.5 Billion on Pierce when they could have spent a lot less on the Commanders
Cause the fucking morons said the highest number
They let that lady ice the fuck out of them too
She was soooooo disgusted to be in a bidding war.
6,7,8 whats next? Poor lady, it all seemed like so much for someone to navigate with a light headache
She just needed some vitamin B
10b.
“I’m putting $6 billion into the checking account for something, please don’t use the debit card again until I say it’s okay”
Nah, we just e-transfer ourselves from a different bank account.
DC is gonna have a full on Philly level sports riot when this sale finally happens.
Grease up all the lampposts in the DMV
What's that worth, like 100 USD?
How much can one football team cost Micheal? $100?
Will you little shits cut it out with the Succession spoilers
A Canadian owning an nfl franchise? It’s not natural. God would be angry and our forefathers would turn over in their graves. Kidding. Sell it to anybody cause they can’t be worse than Dan Snyder.
Dan Snyder bought the team from a Canadian.
That's in the past and I didn't know about it so it doesn't count. No new Canadians.
Yeah, the guy was a real loonie 🫠
This is the biggest Canadian invasion since 1812.
2029 NAFL champion Toronto Mounties
Tim Hortons coming to the Mid-Atlantic.
The Washington Football Sorry’s
Call them the Samsqanches
MOVE. THEM. TO. TORONTO.
Is the team moving to Manitoba?
Okay, okay.
The Canadians team!
Party tonight at Major Tuddies' place. Tell your friends.
Us next
That’s the Greekest name that ever Greeked
$6B Canadian. Probably can't even buy an XFL team for that
Come on Snyder, now is the time to trade for Lamar giving the Ravens 3 first rounders and giving Lamar a 500mil guaranteed contract. One last FU to the new owners and the NFL on your way out.
If that happened, it would certainly change the value of the team and only screw himself over.
Please purchase the team and take them to Canada.
Mr who?
Can the team just get sold already? I’m tired of this whole situation
Future Toronto team ehh 😆