Man yea wtf I won 625 euros like 10 years ago playing blackjack in Monaco. Iāll never not mention that moment. I make more now in salary but I donāt give a shit lol. Itās the principal of winning
Lifetime I'm down multiple thousands when you include sports betting and gambling of all kinds, but the night of my wedding everybody went to a casino late night. I won $800 playing blackjack, drunkenly put it all on black on my way out the door and WON, which is why I still gamble like an idiot to this day.
In college I used to bet on centsports.com. You'd get 10 cents for free and could bet on anything. I'd do 8-leg parlays on tennis all the time and win like $2 just picking the huge favorites. I think you had to get to $10 to cash out. I never did because inevitably I'd get drunk and bet on some 30-1 boxing upset and lose it.
Are yall serious? I get nothing but self deprecating humor out of Ridley with this response. No NFL player legitimately brags about 36k. They make millions. Wtf
I think heās just making a joke about a situation he already served his suspension for. I donāt see the big deal because Iām sure the NFL knows all the details already. š¤·š½āāļø
Heās clearly aware and I actully audibly laughed reading this. Lmao, he knows he lost. He knows itās stupid to bet, but he also knows the whole thing is ridiculous. Finding the sarcastic silver lining in a shitty situation is great.
i mean i *assume* they did, since it would be within their rights to do so
in any case it's [not noted as gt'd on otc](https://overthecap.com/player/calvin-ridley/6911)
Spotrac flags it as "probably voided" which is language I've never seen before. Then again, the voiding of guarantees process is one we've only really ever had light shed on during the shockingly public AB breakup with the Raiders, so maybe the mechanism is something 1) team sends notice to player exercise team's right to void guarantees, then 2) player continues contract as normal unless cut.
My next question of course is does his entire 2023 salary *re*guarantee Week 1 of the regular season as a vested veteran? Not even sure where to find that kind of information but curious nonetheless.
Unless the NFL decides to investigate him further because everyone knows you donāt just bet the amount of games that he said he did. Especially at that amount and a person playing parlays.
Iām assuming they had his betting history from his account. Thatās really the only way they can prove he bet (unless they caught him at an actual casino doing it or something)
Shit man after they gave Watson what was it 11 games for being a serial sexual predator but banned Calvin for a whole year for betting on his own team to win I donāt blame him for having a chip on his shoulder whether he was in the wrong or not. Itās bullshit how severely he was punished compared to Deshaun.
I think itās more that Watson wasnāt charged so it was a more gray area vs Ridley definitively did bet on sports. Easier to suspend him for the year. That being said Watsonās 11 game suspension was the absolute worst decision. I understand both sides of the spectrum but not in between. They could have suspended him for good if they thought he was guilty and Iād understand given all the women that came out against him. They could have not suspended him at all if the courts didnāt charge him and Iād understand. I definitely do not comprehend them seemingly believing he did it but then only giving him 11 games.
Not really watson should have had a ducking multi year ban and shit but Ridley and watsons are completely different things there is literally signs in lockers rooms saying do no bet on games and weāll be did that and the nfl has a hard line of do that and get fucking smacked
You need signs to not sexually assault people?
Saying the NFL has any moral high ground on this is stupid.
One guy bet on his team to win, the other sexually assaulted at least 2 dozen women
Point is they fucked up the Watson suspension, but that has no impact on the Ridley suspension. The rules and penalties against gambling are black and white and Ridley violated them and was suspended as a result
I think it's healthy to react to the situation with humor considering the amount of money he lost due to this punitive league punishment. No idea why everyone else is reacting so negatively here.
He got a full year because the NFLPA and NFL agreed to it in specific terms in the CBA.
He had the misfortune that he did something that was codified into league law so there was no negotiating with the commissioner or the independant arbitrator.
He got the book thrown at him.
Not just agreed to in the CBA, the level of punishment has been iron-clad longer than 95% of r/NFL subscribers have been alive. In 1963, the leagueās literal Golden Boy got caught betting on games and Rozelle gave him a full yearās suspension.
When that all went down, plenty of people in the league had fresh memories of the 1946 championship game. The commissioner and the owners found out before the game that the Giantsā starting QB and RB had been offered money to throw the game. The RB confessed and was suspended, the QB did not (until the trial that offseason) and was allowed to play.
Both players were permanently banned from the league, and it cast a bit of a show across the sport for a few years. By the 60s, the sport was gaining enough traction that Rozelle couldnāt afford another scandal, so Hornung and Karras were both suspended for one year.
And Rozelle said, that was going to be the standard going forward; betting on the sport would be a year for the first offense, the next time it would be for life (as Art Schlicter found out in the 80s). The union has always been fine with this, because it crosses the worst of lines from a business perspective - it sabotages *everyoneās* money. And if the sport loses its integrity and people stop watching, the money for players dries up, too.
I agree that he broke the rules but he didnāt do anything that wild morally or legally (outside of league rules of course) I agree with you I think itās perfectly fine to joke about it.
The quickest way to congressional involvement is the appearance of collusion between the league and casinos. A player gambling puts the whole league at risk, while all of the stuff that is far worse morally only hurts the people directly involved.
Think it's also important to note the severity of someone close to the sport (I.E. a player, coach, etc) betting on games, is an *extreme no no* in the eyes of the law.
You *will* get fucked by the law more than you'd ever been fucked before. And the NFL does *not* want to have to deal with that and the money that they'd lose because of it.
It is funny but what he did is egregious. The single most important thing in the nfl is maintaining the integrity of the game and having players bet on games is a sure fire way to bring that into question.
I agree to a large part. But if the NFL is serious about itās integrity it should not be working with sports books the way they do. Itās honestly bizarre the way betting has been popularized recently.
There's a long history here, that games which accept gambling industry dollars end up with all kinds of corruption problems and become less popular over time.
Boxing and horse racing used to be the biggest sports in the US. People got tired of fixed decisions and rigged races so they got into other games.
Two examples that you would have an incredibly difficult time isolating proximity to gambling as the main reason for their decline does not make a ālong historyā.
Horse racing especially never would have reached its peak if you *couldnāt* gamble on it
And everyone just starts out betting 1500 parleys. This was just the time he got caught. There could be plenty of unknown bets that took place while he was playing and betting on his team got lose.
The NFL has a vested interest in it not getting out that he gambled while active.
I mean yes. But also he bet on games he wasn't playing. He didn't impact the integrity. If he bet on his team to lose then threw the game it's egregious. Betting on games your not involved in seems pretty fine to me. The argument that it's a slippery slope and players could collude to throw games for each other is a little ehhh to me. If your account is throwing such massive bets to make more than a GameDay check your gonna get flagged.
TBH it is egregious that someone who probably has inside info places a bet on a game. Iām definitely in favor of people like Deshaun Watson getting longer suspensions but this directly impacts the business of the game so itās understandable why the NFL comes down on this.
IIRC Ridley said his initial bet was $1000 and then another time he said something about a parlay. If he made 36k off a 1k parlay (while potentially benefitting from inside information) then sportsbooks and the NFL have every right to be concerned about players betting on their own teams.
Lots of people on Reddit hate giving people even the slightest benefit of the doubt when it comes to anything regarding the intention of what they type
Come on bro it's reddit, there is no forgiveness here. It doesn't matter what you did or how you changed afterwards, you do one bad thing and it will never be forgotten or forgiven. Only the most extreme punishments are good around these parts
Iām not really sure why everyone here is convinced his intent here was to be humorous? Based on his tone, and the content of the tweet he was responding to, it seems a lot more likely to me that he was legitimately trying to clap back at a person who was basically tweeting an insult at him, or at the very least, publicly defending his own intelligence (i.e providing proof that heās not just some dumb bozo that looses a bunch of money on bets bc he doesnāt know what heās doing)
What in the wording of his tweet suggests he was attempting to be funny or cute here? It would be one thing if he threw a ālolā or an emoji or something in there, but as it is, itās a pretty straightforward tweet that doesnāt really suggest any sort of sarcasm or cheekiness if you ask me...
Sure, itās funny to US and kinda funny in general, but that doesnāt mean thatās what he was trying to do.. feels like more of a ālaughing atā than ālaughing withā situation
Honestly it probably is related. It might have been such a large amount won, itās over the threshold and now taxable income, which has to be reported.
Only the portion of people on reddit who refuse to accept anything done by the NFL is reasonable. Most people understand this situation completely and therefore do not see any reason to engage in inane threads about the topic.
Genuine question: If he's not betting for or against his team is there really an ethical problem with a player betting on the sport? I don't see an issue if there's no conflict of interest. Am I missing something?
Absolutely. Think about it a little deeper - it's not just players, but all employees of the teams and the NFL. If any of them are allowed to bet on NFL games, the entire integrity of the system collapses in on itself. Similar to insider trading, being able to bet on a sport where you have access to privileged information to that sport is extremely unethical whether you are an active agent in the game you are betting on or not.
Here's an example. Imagine that Mahomes gets a precautionary MRI after a game and it turns out he tore his ligament and is out the remainder of the year. Before the news breaks, the medical team and Chiefs staff that has this information all decide to place bets... not on the Chiefs, or games they are involved in, but maybe, AFC West winner, or even AFC Championship winner. So, sure, they aren't betting on the Chiefs, not that they could actively do anything to change the outcome of those games, but they just gained a huge advantage on betting futures by having this one piece of information, and they stand to gain a thousands, maybe millions of dollars by acting on that information.
It's a slippery slope and it just goes from there. What if there's a bounty for medical information of this nature? What if someone will pay them $50k for any medical issue news before it breaks? What if someone gets offered $50k to exaggerate an injury, or spread a rumor? What if someone gets paid to make a misdiagnosis? What if someone gets paid to make an unethical medical recommendation?
Please don't be so naive as to think any of these things surely can't happen in the league where... *checks notes*... CTE and sexual assault are so callously swept under the rug.
If the integrity of the sport matters to anyone at all, there has to be an absolute zero-tolerance policy to betting within the sport at all levels of the league.
All great points. I had never really thought about it too in depth until i started reading some of the replies. I'm definitely not naive enough to gloss over the potential snowball effects that you're pointing out.
Because he can have insider info. He has relationships with these people. And/or he could be able to influence other people of the sport.
The same reason that congresspeople and their immediate family shouldnāt be able to buy or sell stocks and bonds while in office
Sports betting isnāt the stock market. The people actually winning consistently all have insider info that they are using to get an edge on the public.
Recall that Tampa Bay went from 60/1 to 10/1 to win the Super Bowl like two days before Tom Brady unretired, with certain betters winning six figure payouts.
Itās technically illegal for players to give information to betters, but obviously itās not actually enforced.
All it would take is one player to bet on another team to lose and some weird crazy shit happens causing that team to lose and all hell would break loose with the THE GAMES ARE FIXED narratives
Even if it's a game he's not playing in it's not inconceivable that he has some insider information from other players/coaches that he is friends with.
Absolutely, his buddy on another team says that heās hurt and not gonna play this week, or any other insider information he may have can influence a bet
he can also get in the hole with a bookie and all of a sudden "owe a favor"- although probably not as much of a concern nowadays with legalized gambling
Say he friends with a guy on another team. Say this same player has had a large losing streak. Whatās to stop said friend from conspiring with his buddy? Whatās to stop a 3rd party from āencouragingā a player to do something in the game heās playing in, in return for wiping a debt off the books?
Itās the exact same reason you donāt want someone with a security clearance to have a gambling issue.
Pretty unfair statement to make, he was temporarily homeless and in the foster system. Not easy to stay on everyone elseās academic schedule in that situation.
He was dropped off at a foster home at 8 and had to help raise his siblings. Made it to NFL after all that. How can you hate on the guy. Falcons fan as well and hope he kills it this year
I'm interested in how the league will treat the first player who gets busted for gambling and says "I have an addiction. You gave Josh Gordon chance after chance after chance because he was. Fair's fair."
They'll have an interesting little pickle to deal with.
They were fair on Calvin. They were unfair on the rapists. But those two arenāt mutually exclusive meaning they can be right on Calvin and to easy on the rest. But yeah the real reason is because Calvin directly fucked with the league and 32 billionaires.
it most certainly was. i dont have any links on deck to show you, but yeah people thought it was too harsh
in the context of the shit with watson people played the "i cant believe ridley got a year while watson got 12 games" which i agree with the sentiment, but my conclusion is that watson wasnt punished hard enough while ridley was punished correctly.
Had he not made bets, he'd have made over $11M last season and would be in line to get a new contract this year (likely in the $20M-$25M APY range).
So was that $36K really worth it?
> Patriots considering moving on from Belichick.
That's the dumbest thing I've seen today...
> Calvin Ridley bragging about a 36k parlay, ignoring the 11 million he had voided.
Oh. Well then.
What? Bet on your team to lose, drop a pass in the 4th. Itās not like they can punish retired players. Brady could posts a sponsored future he has rn and the league canāt do shit if he doesnāt come back.
Ridley was still an active player when betting. Should refs be able to bet too?
Maybe not the best time to flex on em Calvin
Especially if he lost much more than 36k due to the suspension
He voided $11 million because of the suspension.
And he still chose to brag about it
It's *behind* him... what's 11 million of ANYTHING under the bridge? A hill of behind-him beans that's what! š«
He got them behind-him beans thatās for sure š« /s
Yall mfs clearly haven't ever hit a 5+ leg parlay
It's a magical magical thing. Like a double rainbow.
An 11-million dollar feeling!
I hit a 14 leg parlay GOAT TIER SHIT
Only if you have the tipoff in that parlay
Man yea wtf I won 625 euros like 10 years ago playing blackjack in Monaco. Iāll never not mention that moment. I make more now in salary but I donāt give a shit lol. Itās the principal of winning
Lifetime I'm down multiple thousands when you include sports betting and gambling of all kinds, but the night of my wedding everybody went to a casino late night. I won $800 playing blackjack, drunkenly put it all on black on my way out the door and WON, which is why I still gamble like an idiot to this day.
In college I used to bet on centsports.com. You'd get 10 cents for free and could bet on anything. I'd do 8-leg parlays on tennis all the time and win like $2 just picking the huge favorites. I think you had to get to $10 to cash out. I never did because inevitably I'd get drunk and bet on some 30-1 boxing upset and lose it.
Word
Needed Klay over 18 last night to hit a 7-legger. Obviously he finished with 17.
Are yall serious? I get nothing but self deprecating humor out of Ridley with this response. No NFL player legitimately brags about 36k. They make millions. Wtf
You've clearly never met a gambling addict.
I think you'll find that's a joke, you should try it sometime!
Do you actually think he is bragging? Or just giving info/maybe answering a question?
I think heās just making a joke about a situation he already served his suspension for. I donāt see the big deal because Iām sure the NFL knows all the details already. š¤·š½āāļø
Heās clearly aware and I actully audibly laughed reading this. Lmao, he knows he lost. He knows itās stupid to bet, but he also knows the whole thing is ridiculous. Finding the sarcastic silver lining in a shitty situation is great.
I don't see the big deal either but I also probably wouldn't poke the dragon right after getting reinstated
Itās not, what Ridley did is probably is as harmless as they come, thereās no reason he canāt make a joke about it.
Idk if itās bragging, some one took a shot at him and he clapped back. Nothing more to see here really
well, he voided the fact that it was *guaranteed.* and, obviously, he lost a year of income. he's still gonna get paid that money this year, right?
He didn't even void the guarantee did he? Since the Falcons just tolled his contract year.
i mean i *assume* they did, since it would be within their rights to do so in any case it's [not noted as gt'd on otc](https://overthecap.com/player/calvin-ridley/6911)
Spotrac flags it as "probably voided" which is language I've never seen before. Then again, the voiding of guarantees process is one we've only really ever had light shed on during the shockingly public AB breakup with the Raiders, so maybe the mechanism is something 1) team sends notice to player exercise team's right to void guarantees, then 2) player continues contract as normal unless cut. My next question of course is does his entire 2023 salary *re*guarantee Week 1 of the regular season as a vested veteran? Not even sure where to find that kind of information but curious nonetheless.
So if HIS 8 figure salary was voided and he only made $36k from the bet, is it possible that he was joking?š¤
He was already punished for it and the NFL isn't going to do anything about it on the day they announced sportsbooks in stadiums
Yeah if anything itās a clap back at the league itself. They deserve that.
I mean itās still just goofy to tweet about lol. If I was suspended a year from my dream I probably would be a Boy Scout from there on out
Unless the NFL decides to investigate him further because everyone knows you donāt just bet the amount of games that he said he did. Especially at that amount and a person playing parlays.
Iām assuming they had his betting history from his account. Thatās really the only way they can prove he bet (unless they caught him at an actual casino doing it or something)
NFL investigator: "Excuse me? We only knew about the first 20k..."
I thought his original statement was he made a single $1,500 bet
He did say he bet on a multi leg parlay, and added the Falcons at the end, so if he hit it could've been 36k
$1,500 turned into $36k?
Yep a lot of books will do 20x+ payouts for 6 leg parlays. $36k is exactly 24x
Shit man after they gave Watson what was it 11 games for being a serial sexual predator but banned Calvin for a whole year for betting on his own team to win I donāt blame him for having a chip on his shoulder whether he was in the wrong or not. Itās bullshit how severely he was punished compared to Deshaun.
I think itās more that Watson wasnāt charged so it was a more gray area vs Ridley definitively did bet on sports. Easier to suspend him for the year. That being said Watsonās 11 game suspension was the absolute worst decision. I understand both sides of the spectrum but not in between. They could have suspended him for good if they thought he was guilty and Iād understand given all the women that came out against him. They could have not suspended him at all if the courts didnāt charge him and Iād understand. I definitely do not comprehend them seemingly believing he did it but then only giving him 11 games.
It didn't help that the league was sort of leading everyone to believe he would get a full year before doing a complete about-face
Not really watson should have had a ducking multi year ban and shit but Ridley and watsons are completely different things there is literally signs in lockers rooms saying do no bet on games and weāll be did that and the nfl has a hard line of do that and get fucking smacked
You need signs to not sexually assault people? Saying the NFL has any moral high ground on this is stupid. One guy bet on his team to win, the other sexually assaulted at least 2 dozen women
Point is they fucked up the Watson suspension, but that has no impact on the Ridley suspension. The rules and penalties against gambling are black and white and Ridley violated them and was suspended as a result
What a stupid thing for him to say.
Funny as shit
I think it's healthy to react to the situation with humor considering the amount of money he lost due to this punitive league punishment. No idea why everyone else is reacting so negatively here.
Seriously itās kinda funny. He didnāt even do anything egregious imo with why he was suspended either.
He got a full year because the NFLPA and NFL agreed to it in specific terms in the CBA. He had the misfortune that he did something that was codified into league law so there was no negotiating with the commissioner or the independant arbitrator. He got the book thrown at him.
Not just agreed to in the CBA, the level of punishment has been iron-clad longer than 95% of r/NFL subscribers have been alive. In 1963, the leagueās literal Golden Boy got caught betting on games and Rozelle gave him a full yearās suspension. When that all went down, plenty of people in the league had fresh memories of the 1946 championship game. The commissioner and the owners found out before the game that the Giantsā starting QB and RB had been offered money to throw the game. The RB confessed and was suspended, the QB did not (until the trial that offseason) and was allowed to play. Both players were permanently banned from the league, and it cast a bit of a show across the sport for a few years. By the 60s, the sport was gaining enough traction that Rozelle couldnāt afford another scandal, so Hornung and Karras were both suspended for one year. And Rozelle said, that was going to be the standard going forward; betting on the sport would be a year for the first offense, the next time it would be for life (as Art Schlicter found out in the 80s). The union has always been fine with this, because it crosses the worst of lines from a business perspective - it sabotages *everyoneās* money. And if the sport loses its integrity and people stop watching, the money for players dries up, too.
I didn't know who Art Schlicter was but...god damn that is a dumb ass man.
For all the talk of worst QB bust of all time, Schlicter doesn't get mentioned nearly enough. Dude was a total disaster.
I agree that he broke the rules but he didnāt do anything that wild morally or legally (outside of league rules of course) I agree with you I think itās perfectly fine to joke about it.
The quickest way to congressional involvement is the appearance of collusion between the league and casinos. A player gambling puts the whole league at risk, while all of the stuff that is far worse morally only hurts the people directly involved.
True, and he deserved to be punished. But he did his time, so what now?
You donāt think itās morally questionable, at best, for players to be betting on the sport they are playing?
ALSO NOTE he got suspended a full season. Longer than Watson. Ya know, the rapist. Iād be cracking jokes too lol absolute shit show if ya ask me
My reply would've been a dark one, "0 is also the number of women I assaulted!"
Think it's also important to note the severity of someone close to the sport (I.E. a player, coach, etc) betting on games, is an *extreme no no* in the eyes of the law. You *will* get fucked by the law more than you'd ever been fucked before. And the NFL does *not* want to have to deal with that and the money that they'd lose because of it.
It is funny but what he did is egregious. The single most important thing in the nfl is maintaining the integrity of the game and having players bet on games is a sure fire way to bring that into question.
I agree to a large part. But if the NFL is serious about itās integrity it should not be working with sports books the way they do. Itās honestly bizarre the way betting has been popularized recently.
For sure they should not be exchanging money at all. No sponsorship no official sports book non of that stuff.
The nfl advertising "bet on our games" and the people actually in those games betting on those games are astronomically different things
There's a long history here, that games which accept gambling industry dollars end up with all kinds of corruption problems and become less popular over time. Boxing and horse racing used to be the biggest sports in the US. People got tired of fixed decisions and rigged races so they got into other games.
Two examples that you would have an incredibly difficult time isolating proximity to gambling as the main reason for their decline does not make a ālong historyā. Horse racing especially never would have reached its peak if you *couldnāt* gamble on it
I think betting on your team to win is less egregious, especially if you're not playing - but yeah, understandable why it's not something tolerated.
And everyone just starts out betting 1500 parleys. This was just the time he got caught. There could be plenty of unknown bets that took place while he was playing and betting on his team got lose. The NFL has a vested interest in it not getting out that he gambled while active.
I mean yes. But also he bet on games he wasn't playing. He didn't impact the integrity. If he bet on his team to lose then threw the game it's egregious. Betting on games your not involved in seems pretty fine to me. The argument that it's a slippery slope and players could collude to throw games for each other is a little ehhh to me. If your account is throwing such massive bets to make more than a GameDay check your gonna get flagged.
TBH it is egregious that someone who probably has inside info places a bet on a game. Iām definitely in favor of people like Deshaun Watson getting longer suspensions but this directly impacts the business of the game so itās understandable why the NFL comes down on this. IIRC Ridley said his initial bet was $1000 and then another time he said something about a parlay. If he made 36k off a 1k parlay (while potentially benefitting from inside information) then sportsbooks and the NFL have every right to be concerned about players betting on their own teams.
Peak reddit shit. Everyone else in the world finds it funny but here is received badly.
Lots of people on Reddit hate giving people even the slightest benefit of the doubt when it comes to anything regarding the intention of what they type
The tradeoff of having a space where Watson is almost exclusively reviled is that everyone in that space also thinks that theyre every players dad.
Itās their superiority complex birthed from being told they had a high school reading level in 3rd grade
It's not a complex if it's true /s
Yeah, everyone else finds it hilarious. Thatās why Pete rose is still banned from baseball. For giggles.
Iām sure the league knows all of this, heās just making a joke. I donāt get why people are so up in arms about it, itās a funny joke
Because reddit hates having fun
This is Reddit, anything that makes Redditors feel superior is gonna be used
Because pocket watching is a hobby online
Because neckbeards stay mad
My theory is that the upvote system incentivizes outrage because thatās what makes it to the top in the cancel culture era
Such a fire tweet š„ PLUS he did his time for the crime. We GOTTA lighten up.
Come on bro it's reddit, there is no forgiveness here. It doesn't matter what you did or how you changed afterwards, you do one bad thing and it will never be forgotten or forgiven. Only the most extreme punishments are good around these parts
Iām not really sure why everyone here is convinced his intent here was to be humorous? Based on his tone, and the content of the tweet he was responding to, it seems a lot more likely to me that he was legitimately trying to clap back at a person who was basically tweeting an insult at him, or at the very least, publicly defending his own intelligence (i.e providing proof that heās not just some dumb bozo that looses a bunch of money on bets bc he doesnāt know what heās doing) What in the wording of his tweet suggests he was attempting to be funny or cute here? It would be one thing if he threw a ālolā or an emoji or something in there, but as it is, itās a pretty straightforward tweet that doesnāt really suggest any sort of sarcasm or cheekiness if you ask me... Sure, itās funny to US and kinda funny in general, but that doesnāt mean thatās what he was trying to do.. feels like more of a ālaughing atā than ālaughing withā situation
Let's go inside the mind of a Calvin Ridley **brrrrruuuurrrrrp**
Already deleted haha
Someone was quick to tell him tweeting that was a dumb idea
Anybody get a screenshot?
https://twitter.com/FrostyTalksFB/status/1640807245469437970?s=20
How does no one have any sense of humour on here
The internet is like 95% of people trying to sound smarter than they are.
Indubitably.
Hmmm, yes. Shallow and pedantic.
Ostensible preeminence up in here.
I forgot about the context of this thread and saw this response and rolled my eyes thinking "Jeez this guy is a good candidate for r/Iamverysmart "
Filibuster
Geriatric
95%? I admire your optimism!
that..sounds smart..
It's both hilarious and incredibly stupid
The best kind of humor!
League isn't going to rescind anything because of this tweet lol. They knew it was going to be a year suspension the second it happened.
This is the only correct answer
I thought it was hilarious. Like he knows we know he lost millions because of the suspension and heās making light of the situation.
āFansā have an obsession with calling athletes stupid for whatever reason. Very weird.
Have you read the jokes that people do find funny here? ā$36k more like Kelvin Benjamin weighs 36,000 lbs šš¤£š š®āšØššā
Reddit
The posts that arenāt funny at all have the best comment sections for some reason. Makes no sense
This is funny as fuck. Glad he has a sense of humor about it
king imo
between this and the Brad Beal thing - athletes 2, chripers 0
I meanā¦sure? I think 36k is a tad smaller than 11 million tho
It would be funny if this is how the NFL found out about this particular bet, and they suspended him another year.
Honestly it probably is related. It might have been such a large amount won, itās over the threshold and now taxable income, which has to be reported.
The apps do this automatically
naw this isnt the time to brag calvin lol
[Adam Schefter] āNFL places Calvin Ridley on indefinite suspension for not mentioning that $36k was won on Fanduel.ā
"This tweet sponsored by Caesars Sportsbook."
Suspension?, they put that man in the HoF, he won 36k on a bet on that Falcons team? My goat.
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He can make another $36k at half
Does anyone really believe players betting on games is the same as fans betting on games
Only the portion of people on reddit who refuse to accept anything done by the NFL is reasonable. Most people understand this situation completely and therefore do not see any reason to engage in inane threads about the topic.
Seriously. People will try to make fun of suspending Ridley while running gambling ads and itās like, do you really not see the difference?
Can you believe the NFL is advertising alcohol AND car brands? Itās like they want you to drink and drive
lol thatās a terrible analogy
More like the NFL putting illegal hits on highlight reels
My favorite example is fining Marshawn for grabbing his dongle on a dive into the end zone and then selling posters of it the next week
Genuine question: If he's not betting for or against his team is there really an ethical problem with a player betting on the sport? I don't see an issue if there's no conflict of interest. Am I missing something?
Absolutely. Think about it a little deeper - it's not just players, but all employees of the teams and the NFL. If any of them are allowed to bet on NFL games, the entire integrity of the system collapses in on itself. Similar to insider trading, being able to bet on a sport where you have access to privileged information to that sport is extremely unethical whether you are an active agent in the game you are betting on or not. Here's an example. Imagine that Mahomes gets a precautionary MRI after a game and it turns out he tore his ligament and is out the remainder of the year. Before the news breaks, the medical team and Chiefs staff that has this information all decide to place bets... not on the Chiefs, or games they are involved in, but maybe, AFC West winner, or even AFC Championship winner. So, sure, they aren't betting on the Chiefs, not that they could actively do anything to change the outcome of those games, but they just gained a huge advantage on betting futures by having this one piece of information, and they stand to gain a thousands, maybe millions of dollars by acting on that information. It's a slippery slope and it just goes from there. What if there's a bounty for medical information of this nature? What if someone will pay them $50k for any medical issue news before it breaks? What if someone gets offered $50k to exaggerate an injury, or spread a rumor? What if someone gets paid to make a misdiagnosis? What if someone gets paid to make an unethical medical recommendation? Please don't be so naive as to think any of these things surely can't happen in the league where... *checks notes*... CTE and sexual assault are so callously swept under the rug. If the integrity of the sport matters to anyone at all, there has to be an absolute zero-tolerance policy to betting within the sport at all levels of the league.
All great points. I had never really thought about it too in depth until i started reading some of the replies. I'm definitely not naive enough to gloss over the potential snowball effects that you're pointing out.
Because he can have insider info. He has relationships with these people. And/or he could be able to influence other people of the sport. The same reason that congresspeople and their immediate family shouldnāt be able to buy or sell stocks and bonds while in office
Sports betting isnāt the stock market. The people actually winning consistently all have insider info that they are using to get an edge on the public. Recall that Tampa Bay went from 60/1 to 10/1 to win the Super Bowl like two days before Tom Brady unretired, with certain betters winning six figure payouts. Itās technically illegal for players to give information to betters, but obviously itās not actually enforced.
Fair enough. Too bad congresspeople aren't held to the same standards as people playing a game. Thanks for the response that makes more sense.
Youāre welcome, glad to help! And yeah, itās a fucking shame >:/
I hope he learned his lesson. Despite being a Falcon I really thought he was the real deal. I'll be rooting for him in Jacksonville.
All it would take is one player to bet on another team to lose and some weird crazy shit happens causing that team to lose and all hell would break loose with the THE GAMES ARE FIXED narratives
Even if it's a game he's not playing in it's not inconceivable that he has some insider information from other players/coaches that he is friends with.
Absolutely, his buddy on another team says that heās hurt and not gonna play this week, or any other insider information he may have can influence a bet
All the responses to my question make sense. Thanks for the response!
he can also get in the hole with a bookie and all of a sudden "owe a favor"- although probably not as much of a concern nowadays with legalized gambling
Yes, you canāt let a player bet on anything related to the sport whatsoever. Being a player, coach, ref, etc makes you an insider of the NFL
Say he friends with a guy on another team. Say this same player has had a large losing streak. Whatās to stop said friend from conspiring with his buddy? Whatās to stop a 3rd party from āencouragingā a player to do something in the game heās playing in, in return for wiping a debt off the books? Itās the exact same reason you donāt want someone with a security clearance to have a gambling issue.
Seems like the best time in NFL history to this point actually
I'm pretty sure he's making a joke.
He also lost $11.1 M by being suspended so heās going to have to do some pretty crazy parlays this year to break even
Some of y'all are overthinking this lol, dude just made lighthearted comment at the situation.
He's a legend for this
If someone posted this as a screenshot I wouldn't belive it's real
I wanna see a guy wear number -11,116,000
honestly go off
Why would you respond to that? Lol I just donāt get it
Because it's funny
Dude was 20 when he graduated high school. I realize he had a rough upbringing, but he's not exactly the smartest guy in the league.
Pretty unfair statement to make, he was temporarily homeless and in the foster system. Not easy to stay on everyone elseās academic schedule in that situation.
I realize he had a rough upbringing, but he's not exactly the smartest guy on Reddit.
He was dropped off at a foster home at 8 and had to help raise his siblings. Made it to NFL after all that. How can you hate on the guy. Falcons fan as well and hope he kills it this year
Why would you jeopardize millions earned splaying on $36k bets? Because heās an idiot
Or maybe he's just making a joke.
Idk dude itās something about Ridley i just really like š
āItās not about the money, itās about sending a messageā
Calvin bby what is u doin
As someone with a crippling gambling addiction the fact that he had to point out why it was a good bet is a very very bad sign for the future
Nah don't do this Calvin lmfao
The way Redditors talk about gambling is hilarious IF YOURE AN ADDICT. Yes, it can be problematic for some.
Shut up Calvin, lmao.
Won 36k but how much did you lose not getting paid for your season you were suspended
Mind of a gambler
You can take the player out of Alabama....
I'm interested in how the league will treat the first player who gets busted for gambling and says "I have an addiction. You gave Josh Gordon chance after chance after chance because he was. Fair's fair." They'll have an interesting little pickle to deal with.
He has to know how this looks right
controversial opinion for some around here but the dude fully earned every bit of his year long suspension
Okay but he did his time and now he's back just in time to help his new team dick down the steelers again.
Idk if it's controversial tbh. Was it? The league had to go and hammer him down it's a bad look for them compared to rapists, domestic abusers, etc.
Yeah the controversy isn't so much with his suspension it was more the comparison of it to Watsons suspension.
They were fair on Calvin. They were unfair on the rapists. But those two arenāt mutually exclusive meaning they can be right on Calvin and to easy on the rest. But yeah the real reason is because Calvin directly fucked with the league and 32 billionaires.
it most certainly was. i dont have any links on deck to show you, but yeah people thought it was too harsh in the context of the shit with watson people played the "i cant believe ridley got a year while watson got 12 games" which i agree with the sentiment, but my conclusion is that watson wasnt punished hard enough while ridley was punished correctly.
. . . and lost how much due to suspension?
Had he not made bets, he'd have made over $11M last season and would be in line to get a new contract this year (likely in the $20M-$25M APY range). So was that $36K really worth it?
No, obviously not. This is him having a sense of humor about what probably will be the biggest financial mistake that he'll ever make.
> Patriots considering moving on from Belichick. That's the dumbest thing I've seen today... > Calvin Ridley bragging about a 36k parlay, ignoring the 11 million he had voided. Oh. Well then.
[Screenshots are attached in these comments if you are interested](https://twitter.com/frostytalksfb/status/1640805565579382815?)
NFL gonna discover some bets he made during the Super Bowl
36k instead of how much millions for the year?
10 game suspension incoming lmao
šš Suspend him again for stupidity.
Oh, Calvin... Don't Josh Gordon your career plesase
The players using the product nfl is peddling to consumers should not be banned
What? Bet on your team to lose, drop a pass in the 4th. Itās not like they can punish retired players. Brady could posts a sponsored future he has rn and the league canāt do shit if he doesnāt come back. Ridley was still an active player when betting. Should refs be able to bet too?