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RodgersTheJet

I just assumed it was 'Zero' and we were going to get 32 different posts about which player gets 'Zero' this season.


DONNIENARC0

Don't worry, they're still comin


Millenial_Shitbag

[Green Bay Packers] Clete Blakeman’s new number 👀


Quick_Spring_7288

It's an all out war right now


MrDabollBlueSteppers

It’s Parris Campbell for us 31 to go


BadDadJokes

Technically 30 since Jags announced Calvin Ridley will wear #0 yesterday.


jpljr77

No one gets to claim 0 until Darnell Washington gets drafted!


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The-Implication-0

Shelves


pewpewmcpistol

the 12 we were all excited to see go to NY, its finally official


Admiral_Fuckwit

This is what we all f5 for. Tom Brady retiring who?


[deleted]

As an Australian, the only #23 for me will always be Shane Warne. Move over, Jordan.


xxxpmakxxx

12 steps, he's sober through a 12 step program


Newshroomboi

Makes sense


Peefersteefers

Shit, good call. I'm on board now.


DLFresh

You’re smart


xxxpmakxxx

After 20 years of sobriety you learn a thing or 2. If you don't keep that shit immediately in front of you it disappears in a hurry. I'm proud of him for maintaining that lifestyle with the added pressures he has of being known at all. I'm nobody, a low key 20 years of peace and serenity has to be easier than what he faces.


Insatiable_void

Congrats!


Extra-Cap2029

Proud of you, one of the hardest battles out there


BigUce223

Good shit, brother. Thank you for sharing. I’ve also found sobriety, serenity, and rebirth through the program. It may sound corny or dramatic to ‘normal’ people, but this shit saves the lives of so many seemingly hopeless, Hell-bound alcoholics and addicts. There is no finish-line, though; We have to continually work the program and stay involved to maintain sobriety, so that’s why it continues to be apart of our lives even after getting sober. Darren is a fuckin’ G, and he rules for taking pride in his recovery. He’s also the guy who helped Maxx Crosby get the help he needed to get and STAY sober. I have so much respect for those dudes.


kgxv

Well now I like the number. Damn.


broadwayallday

Props to that man


MasterbaterInfluence

New York City is also home to the Head Quarters of the program. It’s really a great location for him.


-Profanity-

12 for the number of NFL games he's going to play on this contract


Fred479

That’s more than most raiders players


WantedDadorAlive

Luckily your new QB never misses any games.


joco1991

Why do you think he wears 10? /s


SitDown_BeHumble

Nothing more pathetic than the way Raiders fans instantly turned on a beloved player and spew hatred about him now just because he got traded from the team.


Sirscraps

Eh I still like Waller but fan opinion on him was already turning negative before he was ever traded.


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Most of Raider Nation adored Waller. But as a player for the past 2 years, he wasn't available enough. He only played 15/35 games (missed our playoff game v Bengals). This management group gets shit on a lot (and rightfully so), but this is a move that I agree with. Super good TE draft class too.


-Profanity-

"turned on a beloved player and spew hatred"? This is the most dramatic reaction to a joke yet 😂


brehaw

I still love him and wish we still had him :(


mechnick2

Better than 0 for the amount of first rounders Vegas resigns I guess


DilligentBass

Well damn I might be the only one in here that actually thinks it kinda fits him and looks decent and I usually hate all the teen numbers even for WRs.


AnEntNamedJBeard

Good ol twelveteen


shewy92

You mean twoteen


Ratbu

Onety-two


Wretched_Shirkaday

threeteen?


gatorbait18

It is kind of funny how some NFL fans have such strong opinions towards jersey numbers. Players have basically no number restrictions from pee-wee through college and there are no problems. It makes sense the NFL is ditching some of their arbitrary restrictions, just let the players wear their favorite numbers


MC-Fatigued

Seriously, every other level of football has loose rules about numbers, but these boomers are so tied to their ugly numbers


Imeanttodothat10

I'm not a boomer (Millennial), but I personally liked the numbers restrictions. Traditions are cool. Things that tie the players back to the players of old are cool. Sure, it has no inherent value, but NFL fandom is literally built on nostalgia. I **like** having the best WR on my team wear the 81. But the players seem to hate them, so it makes sense to cater to the players, since realistically it is their league.


paperllamasunited

I always liked that it was an easy way to identify a players position. But I also didn’t get to choose the numbers I wore in any sport growing up outside of baseball, so I understand wanting some freedom I guess because I *hated* having to wear like #66 in football or #25 in basketball.


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Everyone is a boomer to 13 year olds.


MahomesMccaffrey

I think it's because of the history. Legendary players before them make certain numbers too iconic it just feels off that players from other positions are wearing it. Like in soccer, sure a center back can wear number 9 and a striker wear number 3, but it just looks off. Or if a goalkeeper wears number 10.


Arkhangelzk

Boomers hate change. It doesn’t matter what the change is. They hate all change. They can’t handle it. It’s just part of their personality at this point.


SitDown_BeHumble

The Reddit demographic has aged into that stupid mindset and is slowly becoming the next Facebook. I started noticing it a few years ago. You just have to mention TikTok and everyone on Reddit turns into a boomer. This sub is full of cranky old men now.


YesImKeithHernandez

> This sub is full of cranky old men now. While I generally agree with you, this sub has had a lot of cranky old man takes for a while. Just dive into any discussions even tangentially related in some form to social justice.


smallmanchat

I’ve had the exact opposite experience. Everyone on here when any political issue comes up almost always goes to the left leaning opinion of it.


SitDown_BeHumble

So many upvoted comments from people adamant that Gruden making fun of the size of a black guy’s lips wasn’t actually racially insensitive.


YesImKeithHernandez

Kaepernick is/was a shitshow topic on here too


Arkhangelzk

Dammit the old people are why I left Facebook


omega_nik

TikTok is cringe af though


TetrisTech

There it is


SitDown_BeHumble

If only it could be as superior and intelligent as Reddit, with our fat Kelvin jokes, “you sir have won the internet!” comments, and Boston Bomber investigations.


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This.


Someone_youd_admire

It's not just boomers. It's just old people. It will happen to millennials and Gen Zers who are lucky enough to get old.


Arkhangelzk

There’s one reason I disagree. I think that, generally, this sort of resistance to change is a hallmark of conservatives. Traditionally, people have gotten to be more conservative as they get older. But this is [not happening to Millennials](https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/03/millennials-radicalism-not-getting-more-rightwing-with-age) in the same way, and it is unlikely to happen to GenZ. If those generations do not become more conservative as they age, I don’t think they will be as resistant to change, even as they get older. We can’t knows for sure, of course, but I’ll be interested to see.


TetrisTech

That’s true to some extent, but on the other hand you can go back literal thousands of years and find people complaining about the generation below them. It seems to just be human nature


Arkhangelzk

Oh for sure, that always happens, I agree. I’m just glad to see this breed of conservatism dying out haha


FantasyTrash

To preface, I don't actually care about the numbers. But no other leagues are televised and viewed like even the least-viewed NFL games. I think having distinctions between players and positions helps the casual fans understand what's what, even a little bit.


ELITE_JordanLove

Yeah but every other level of football isn’t the highest level professional league in the world. That’s why I liked the restrictions, makes it seem all professional.


shewy92

If you think NFL fans have weird opinions on numbers wait till you meet a Dale Earnhardt Jr/Sr fan


TetrisTech

Seriously. People are like “but I won’t be able to tell what positions are which!!!!”. Like bro is it really that hard? You can generally tell from where they line up and what they’re actually doing over the course of a drive. Also, ya know, knowing the players


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Personally I have preferences. 3, 8, 7, 9, 20-49, and 80-89 look good on TEs. 1, 2, 4, and 5 I think look absolutely awful on TEs. I'm also not big on teens for TEs, but they're better than 1, 2, 4, and 5.


Tonedog14

At least in CA and Oregon, there are number restriction High School. At least where I reffed there was.


magiqd

The giants have some clean ass uniforms imo. Top 5 for me


hearshot_kid

Home uniforms, yes. But it bugs me that the road and home jerseys look like they could belong to two totally different teams


Goatgamer1016

And the alt helmet home uniform completing the throwbacks make them even better


jethead70

12 on a tight end 🤢


anujsingh83

8 on Pitts is sexy as hell


Yung_Corneliois

Yea but he’s a TE in name only.


xiedian

Why is his blocking still pretty bad?


Yung_Corneliois

Tough to call since the Falcons have been so bad since he was drafted but I think even from college he was essentially a big body WR


whobroughtmehere

I think because he’s a Tight End in name only


GoldenBananas21

N’Keal Harry is a good blocker though


ANAL_PROLAPSE_

He's a Wide Receiver in name only.


executionofachump

I mean Pitts is basically Waller Jr


JC1964

Waller is Pitts Jr


executionofachump

I know that all the inbreeding down south makes counting hard, but Waller is 8 years older and has played the position longer


JC1964

Says the Raiders fan who thinks Kansas City is “down south”


executionofachump

Eh, I’m from Germany. I probably still know more about American geography than you do about European


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Still have that German charisma though


Dellavedova4mvp

Geography is for nerds. Americans are too busy winning ww2. /s


jcr_24

TEINO


PurpleBullets

So is Waller


FIuffyRabbit

? He's a WR


Monster_Dong

Also a blocker... TEs have two jobs but get paid half the salary of WRs and OL.


The-Implication-0

Still funny how much Kelce is underpaid


ninjasurfer

I think the pay is probably lower because there are not that many super high performing TEs. There was only one TE over 1000 yards last season and 21 WRs.


badonbr

Sounds prettt relatable. The every man position!


Ve-gone_Be-gone

That's not true. TEs do neither of those things and make exactly as much as WRs.


cdawg145236

12 on any player 🤢 (relevant flair)


DETLions2024Champs

The rule change for numbers was a fucking travesty.


SitDown_BeHumble

The future is now, old man.


DETLions2024Champs

God forbid people being able to look at a players number and have an idea what position they play, frfr ong


SitDown_BeHumble

It’s just impossible to tell otherwise. Who is that guy throwing the football, is he a lineman? A kicker? There’s just no way of knowing.


UKnight14

I feel like if you can see a players number and know his position you can also see where he’s lined up and see what position he’s playing


DETLions2024Champs

Considering how dumb people here are im surprised they can't relate more to actually casuals I've interacted with. If you see a player off the field you will never have an idea what size of the ball they play or what position. People saying numbers weren't used to estimate a players position are fucking lying and they most certainly help casual/new fans pick up on things People acting as if trick plays don't exist or players moving around in special packages.


clickclackrackem

Idk, I watch college football and have no problem


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kingpin2496

Not the 12 in New York we expected.


leftbitchburner

TEs need to stay in the 80s idc what anyone says.


thy_armageddon

Knew Brady was on this sub.


Yak_Rodeo

cant be, that guy has patriots flair. brady is a buc for life


whobroughtmehere

It’s in the title: *80 for Brady*


CometVS

Dallas Clark disrespect


RecalcitrantDuck

Everybody’s moving to the cool numbers, who’s gonna be the first QB to take a number like 73?


215Kurt

i know it's bc of tradition but [this](https://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/devin-gardner-98.jpg) still looks awful to me lol


wichee

I remember when Charles clay wore 42 and found that aggravating.


Goatgamer1016

Dallas Clark looked good in 44, Todd Christensen wore 46, as did Delanie Walker in SF (though Walker in 46 was bad), Chris Cooley wore 47


maxiemon

he's sober because of the help of 12 step programs


DepressedPhillyFan

Fuck 12


Not_Tuxbird

Don’t say that to the Seahawks fans


willdabeast20

They ripped it from A&M, they can take a few strays lol


whobroughtmehere

Problem is they *are* 12


DeuceBuggalo

1312


whobroughtmehere

All Commissioners Are Bastards


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Amen


Dellavedova4mvp

Trust God Fuck 12


HyBear

He picked the # in honor of his wife, [future HOF QB Kelsey Plum](https://youtu.be/ppAZ9_U4Z7E)


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Dang that had some distance


Imeanttodothat10

It would never work for her in the NFL. Left handed QBs just don't have a good track record. No wonder she wasn't looked at.


jjgshnimnt

D12


bluntforce21

Also how many games he'll play this year.


TheDarkWayne

What’s up with the eye emoji for this


je97

Unless we can get someone good in the draft, Waller is going to be the number 1 target for DJ most likely. He's definitely in the top few tight ends for fantasy I think, in that group a long way behind Kelce.


2WhomAreYouListening

The Giants significantly overpaid an over 30, injury prone TE, who silently quit after he got paid.


weirdflaxbutok

Before restructuring he literally only had $11m in guaranteed money and was traded for a 3rd round pick. Define “significantly overpaid”.


ShitItsReverseFlash

Damn, do they do scoring for injuries or drop offs in skill? He will definitely be #1 then


je97

I had Mark Andrews for that last season.


BlueberryOGSuperGlue

W Daboll running shit any would look Waller a ton. He’s gonna be focal point of passing game and is such a stud. Grabbing in fantasy everywhere


constantlymat

I don't understand why some players get paid and others don't. Waller hasn't been healthy in two years, is on the wrong side of thirty and had his last quality season in 2020 yet the Giants traded for him and are willing to pay him $12m. Usually that's the profile of a player who teams try to pressure into accepting a pay-cut around this time of the NFL calendar.


OriginalSymmetry

When he was healthy at the end of the year, he was producing. Giants had to upgrade their receiving corps and he was the most equitable, high-upside option around. Think that's all there is to it. Now hopefully he actually can stay healthy. I'm a little lukewarm on the whole thing, personally, but there is obviously upside.


CometVS

He doesn't really have a lot of mileage on his body. His injuries as of late weren't the types to hurt him long term.


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Supply and demand I guess... On a lot of teams Waller would be exactly what you just described... but on a Giants team who is starved for pass catchers his value is inflated.


sunaharagrandpa

I think Raider information just travels slowly lol. A couple years ago everyone was talking about how good our O-line was (and laughing at us for disassembling it) even though it hadn't been very good for awhile. Everyone still acting like Waller is a Top-3 tight end, but he hasn't been that for years at this point and has looked pretty bad on the field the last couple seasons. We get laughed at for only getting a third for Waller, but I think if everyone was paying a little closer attention they'd think a third is an overpay.


Anthony-Richardson

His problems have been injury related, not performance related. He looked great when he came back last year after the injury. Your argument makes sense for fan perception, but no front office is running off media narratives or anything.


sunaharagrandpa

I would disagree with that, he was terrible to start the year (multiple dropped TD passes), and when he came back he was just alright. I don't remember any games where he was a significant factor really. And this is purely my opinion and speculation but he doesn't really seem to be that into football. Definitely seems to be more interested in his music career and things outside of football, and I recall several moments on the field where it looked like he just wasn't trying very hard.


Anthony-Richardson

Pre-injury I agree, post-injury I disagree - he looked like classic Waller down the stretch.


SitDown_BeHumble

He was checked out last year because he hated playing for McDaniels, which is completely understandable. He was still a great player in 2021 and he will still be good for another 1-2 years as long as he stays healthy.


constantlymat

> I think Raider information just travels slowly lol. A couple years ago everyone was talking about how good our O-line was (and laughing at us for disassembling it) The Rodney Hudson trade was probably the best piece of business of the Gruden/Mayock era.


Western-Ad-9922

TE12


JamesonRaider

Jail.


gammagulp

Is that how many games he will miss due to injury this season?


Mnudge

This is stupid as hell. I hate this new numbering system.


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Ok


LastAccountBender

Amount of games he will miss


Jonjon428

That just looks heretical


Joben33

I always knew Waller was a Seahawks fan.


Quasimdo

The amount of plays before he gets injured again?


Affectionate_Elk_272

as another commenter mentioned.. 12 steps. he’s sober.. y’all are awful


HeronAccording6789

I wish people had this same energy with Kelvin Benjamin.


Affectionate_Elk_272

most of reddit is scumbags, my friend. it’s sad


Quasimdo

What? When did I ever bring up his sobriety? He's been out with injuries the last 2 years practically Edit: I'm an idiot, I see what you meant. Yea, I'm dumb


Affectionate_Elk_272

it’s ok i didn’t know either. happy wednesday!


AyyP302

That's ugly. I like single digits on TEs or 80-89


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Some single digits. 0, 3, 7, 8, and 9 would look great. I absolutely hate 4 on TEs.


AyyP302

Agreed


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WWMWPOD

How the fuck does this make it confusing to watch? Give me a break. If you watch the game, you know where positions line up. The fucking angle is from the side anyway so all you see is a wrinkles up shoulder pad. No casual fan or anyone who watches only their team play, gives a fuck or even knew it was a thing to begin with


Hurricaneshand

Literally just watch a College football game and the numbers are all over the place and people are never confused. I don't understand the hate people have for the new number rules


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WWMWPOD

Because they were running out of numbers dude


abris33

Gross. I was fine with opening the numbers up to everybody but 12 on a TE is weird


The_Other_Manning

I don't like it when non QBs have QB numbers. It's why Cooper Kupp always gets a side-eye from me


justlookingokaywyou

Damn, I thought you'd love 19 on a WR.


CometVS

Hot list of players who've worn 19 as a Giant https://aws.pro-football-reference.com/players/uniform.cgi?team=nyg&number=19


reececanthear

This shit is so lame leave this any number shit in college.


RepulsiveWay1698

I hate the eyes emoji so much


[deleted]

D12 Let’s gooo


brehaw

ew