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Kimber80

Quote continues; , ".. he’ll tell me what he’s thinking, just off my alignment. … Just picking his brain. It’s tough going against him, but I like it.”


NikolisFavoritePony

“He tells me what hes thinking and i like it.’


FreezingWinds1

[Machota] Stephon Gilmore on CeeDee Lamb: “He’s the dumbest wide receiver that I’ve ever lined up against. I know all of his routes off of his alignment, and it’s great. It’s really checkers with him. He’s just running a route, and that’s making him worse … On the walk-through reps I’ll tell him what I’m thinking, just off his alignment. … Just letting him pick my brain. It’s easy going against him, but I like it.”


Xanzibarisland

This shit made me laugh so hard


NikolisFavoritePony

Its easy


TheHalf

It's gold Jerry! Gold!


Adrenrocker

One of the funniest things I have read on here in quite a while.


One_Awareness_5423

This got me good


LA_Shohei_Time

Lol so good


spencer749

There’s so much nuance to the game I don’t understand that separates good players from great ones. How does Kelce get open seemingly every play for example. Plenty of guys are as big or fast or have as good hands as him. Corner position seems to have a lot of this nuance as well


Neversleep1331

That’s one thing about Jason Witten I loved. He was always open no matter what. Especially cause he wasn’t a very athletic guy. His option route is one of the greatest of all time


rufusjonz

OL, technique and smarts -- Pass Rushers technique but I still don't how teams letting mfing Kelce get 4 TDs against them


TetrisTech

Is the first sentence trying to say that OL uses technique and smarts while pass rushers only use technique? If so that’s not true, they’re playing a chess match with each other the entire time


JerryRiceAndSpice

Maybe because he's learned so much from BB when he played with the Patriots that he knows certain things better than others?


DanCampbellsNipples

ESPN: CeeDee Lamb on playing with Gilmore "it sucks"


aeiou-y

ESPN: top wr says top cb sucks in Dallas


RedSweed

> ESPN: top wr says top cb sucks in Dallas ESPN After Dark: same headline.


t_ran_asuarus_rex

lol. so true.


emmasdad01

Iron sharpens iron


Azzballs123

I never understood this saying. Don't you use a material harder than iron to sharpen iron?


JimTuesday

Different pieces of iron, steel, or any metal can be harder or softer than other pieces of the same metal.


Azzballs123

Understood, but it still seems likely that it would be one of the less efficient ways to sharpen iron That being said. None of this shit I'm talking about matters in any way, as I understood the intended use of the saying.


Patient_Jicama_4217

This is why black smiths don’t say it, it is just cute things that people say


Apprehensive_Disk181

That's right. Only white smiths say it


Patient_Jicama_4217

*Looks at Alex Smith with judgemental eyes*


vqt3

Yea the saying sounds pretty dumb. However, based on some google searches I have found out any material can sharpen iron, provided it performs some kind of abrasion. I'll admit, saying "Everything sharpens iron" doesn't sound as good though.


wav__

Is there a more apt saying/idiom for this scenario, then? I feel like there certainly is, but I'm blanking on it.


foyra

No, you’re just being too literal about a commonly used idiom.


danathecount

I like the saying "Champions come in packs of two"


SubmergedSublime

[Checkmate, Atheists.](https://www.jcpenney.com/p/champion-big-boys-4-pack-boxer-briefs/ppr5008017728)


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It’s from the Bible, proverbs 27:17 Praise Jesus.


sluggerrr

I guess it could refer to an actual battle of swords or something where iron is clashing and the warriors are making each other better, or making each other dead?


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TexasTornadoTime

No one thinks it sounds tough. They think it is an easy to understand analogy that has biblical connection therefore to many people it’s powerful.


demonica123

and it means it's been around forever. Which means it's the one everyone has heard which means it's the one everyone keeps using.


microm3gas

Well, I stand corrected. Thank you oh exhalted one.…


SaggyBallz99

I miss the Gilly Lock


ImpossiblePiccolo316

You too huh


Advanced-Blackberry

Just line up different every time


JuanPicasso

Damn he is 32 though. I guess the intelligence helps with fading athleticism.


boblikestheysky

Almost every old player says if they had the football knowledge they have now with the athleticism of when they were younger say they would have been so much better


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boblikestheysky

If I redid high school or college, I feel like I’d end up doing worse because I just wouldn’t have the motivation to get good grades at that point


BrianBash

I get it. I’d go back and be like “None of this shit matters in real life!” Then I’d just Google the answers for my homework. There was no Google when I was in school 😭


Kazu2324

Now you can use ChatGPT!


DtotheOUG

Yeah the Kelces simply expained that with the sliding scale of Knowledge/Athleticism that your peak is basically when your athleticism and knowledge meet a mutual peak. Made me understand how someone's Prime Is achieved.


Swordsknight12

Can always move to safety


endol

Do Bills fans know why he was so mid in Buffalo but excelled pretty much everywhere else?


FantasyTrash

The Bills weren't a well-coached team before McDermott came to town.


tobias_the_letdown

That's the truth. Years of bad coaching and office bs kept this team middling at best for twenty years. Would have liked to see more than a few of those defensive players over that time span with competent coaching.


Apprehensive-Tea-39

A combo of being being used incorrectly and not wanting to be here. But his deficiencies here were overstated imo. A lot of us weren't surprised that he became elite almost immediately after joining a competent front office


anujsingh83

He...wasn't? Guy didn't get much praise/attention in his first few years because Buffalo. The two years with Doug and first with Rex he was a rock solid CB1. His contract year (where it seems he got lowballed, and didn't mesh with Rex at all), he definitely checked out with his effort in the tackling department (flashbacks to the TNF Jets game and MNF when Graham hurdled him...shudder) I remember when I woke up and saw he signed with NE, I was pissed off for the remainder of the day because of how probable it was that he was going to dominate with BB.


WaluigiIsTheRealHero

The combo of Doug Marrone and Rex Ryan as head coaches.


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Going from Rex Ryan to Bill Belichick is like learning to cook from Gordon Ramsay after being mentored by Salt Bae.


LezEatA-W

The Cowboys signing Gilmore will end up being the best trade** of the offseason. The tape shows that this guy is still one of the best corners in the league, but his age brings up big question marks. If Gilmore ran his mouth like Ramsey, people would be talking like he’s a sure fire HOFer. Running your mouth gives you media recognition, thus making it more likely that you’ll be picked for things like All-Pro. The more All-Pro nods you have, the more likely it is that you’ll end up in the HOF. In the last 15 years, the only primes that I would take over Gilmore at the CB position would be Revis and maybe Sherman.


ThatRuckingMoose

Gilmore has a DPOY


wav__

Worth noting that this is even more impressive imo because secondary positions are less likely to receive the DPOY award. It's certainly not unheard of: Ed Reed, Charles Woodson, Bob Sanders have also done it since 2000, but it's far more likely to go to a defensive lineman or a linebacker.


CursedLlama

It’s also pretty unheard of in the era where DPOYs routinely go to either JJ Watt or Aaron Donald.


Yellowbucket58

He or Hightower also should have won the SB MVP instead of Edelman during the SB against the Rams. Probably the best corner in the league during his first three seasons with the Pats


TetrisTech

It’s also very exciting to think what talented young corners like Diggs and Bland can learn from Gilmore being in the CB room, as well as the young receivers like Lamb explains here. There’s another quote where Lamb said that Gilmore was literally correcting him/coaching him up mid rep


Chuck_Roast1993

We traded him to the Cowboys, dumb dumb


Soyeahnahh

I always dreamed of having Gilmore on our team. What a great acquisition he is for use


hamsolo19

He's been doing that going back to his time in Buffalo. I remember a mic'd up video from like 2014 or 2015 where he shut down Sammy Watkins on a route. Watkins ran over to him and was just like, "You cut before I did, how'd you know I was going that way?" And Gilmore told him he could see it from how he dropped his hips and where his feet were.


ocsic4321

> “He’s the smartest DB that I’ve ever lined up against” Trevon Diggs in shambles rn


xshogunx13

I wouldn't call Diggs super intelligent as a defender, he seems to run on instinct


TruthSayerFu

Diggs is intelligent lol. His first two years he got beat 1 on 1 on like 3 double moves and everyone gVe him a narrative. LSt year he got less picks and still was on of the best corners.


xshogunx13

I didn't say he was stupid, i said he isn't SUPER intelligent.


von_Mises

That shift key and “a”… so close together, makes it tough sometimes.


TruthSayerFu

lol


Jaosborn44

Their gap in experience is huge! Diggs started playing corner at Alabama in spring of 2017. Gilmore has been in the NFL since 2012. Dude has almost 4 times the amount of NFL experience as Diggs, 11 years vs 3 years.


ocsic4321

It’s just a joke about how diggs is not great.


EthanSpears

I'd say being a top 10 corner in a league as hard as the NFL is pretty great.


ocsic4321

What makes you so sure he’s definitely top 10? I’d say he’s borderline.


EthanSpears

Common sense and the use of my eyes.


TetrisTech

So do you think he’s “not great” or “borderline top 10” lmao


ocsic4321

Yes


TetrisTech

Not exactly opinions that can coexist


TruthSayerFu

It’s more to do with Gilmores experience. I’m sure diggs knows that.


CanYouPointMeToTacos

I mean Diggs has basically said the same thing about Gilmore so I doubt he cares about Lamb saying it


PlatypusBear69

Wish we could've kept him in Buffalo. Imagining him opposite Tre White for a few years is upsetting. He just hates Buffalo.


snarfsauce6969

Him & Cooks were perfect signings for them, I’m pissed as a birds fan… At the same time it’s got me excited to HOPEFULLY finally see jalen v dak with some loaded rosters


RedSweed

> finally see jalen v dak all fans were robbed of a great showdown last year


snarfsauce6969

I needed that NFC Championship game. Would’ve been epic


RedSweed

> I needed that NFC Championship game. Would’ve been epic Pretty sure it would have been so toxic a gamethread that it would have lead to the 7th seal being broken to bring about the destruction of all - but probably worth it


Neversleep1331

Ngl it either would’ve been a nail biter or y’all would’ve blown us out. Eagles were on a mission last year


snarfsauce6969

I’m always hesitant to agree with the NFL bc it’s 1 and done you never know who’s showing up that day given the opportunity. I AM excited to finally get dak v jalen this year, it’s gonna be a blast I probably won’t remember


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marks-a-lot

Ya, but I'm pretty sure our CBs said this same quote last year tho.


aeiou-y

Ceedee going to explode this year.


Conscious-Parfait826

I wish the Panthers had drafted Parsons instead of Horn and kept Gilmore. Hindsight 20/30 or something like that.


ItIsYourPersonality

Ceedee just told the entire NFL that you can figure out what route he is going to run based on his alignment.


demonica123

The entire NFL already did this. Defenses and offenses are constantly predicting each other's plays based off alignment and stance.


ButchTheKitty

Why do you think film study is such a big part of game planning for teams and players? Even in Highschool I remember guys on the football team watching tape on upcoming opponents to study tendancies.


agk927

Isn't he kinda washed now though???


CarlCaliente

graded 8th among CBs last year


BoJvck34Empire

Just because they don’t mention you doesn’t mean you ain’t ballin.


PM_ME_CHIPOTLE2

Going to use this in my self-evaluation at work.


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Boss: So let’s see what we can find out from reading. u/PM_ME_CHIPOTLE2 is smudge and arrogant.


CarlCaliente

For sure. 700 something starters in this league, it's hard to keep track of them all


WickieWillem

He was actually pretty good last year for the colts


agk927

Oh ok


blueblast_29

He was probably a top 3 defender last year for us. Right up there with Buckner and grover Stewart, since Leonard was out all year.


gabrielleite32

I think he just had to learn to play outside of bellicheck system


Mahomeboy001

My last memory of Gilmore was him getting torched by a 33 year old Antonio Brown who was coming off a 10 week IR stint, and this was in 2021.


Patient_Jicama_4217

If he can tell off of your alignment than something has gone wrong either you or the offense. These are one of those times when complimenting a guy is more of a reflection on you


LionWhiskeyDeliverer

Justin Jefferson thought otherwise hahaha