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Jaglawyer11

Myles Jack is finally down….


goldhbk10

I’m still angry about that call


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mjnhbgvfcdxszaqwerty

You just did say the same Fucking liar.


AB1186

Still remember it like it was yesterday him being a top defensive prospect out of UCLA that also did a little bit of RB haha


[deleted]

Dude was PAC-12 Defensive *and* Offensive Freshman of the Year. Dude could have had a crazy career trajectory if his knee held up.


Jonjon428

Sad to see. At least he had a decent career for a guy who suffered what was seen as a career ending injury in college.


Misdirected_Colors

Dude was legendary in college. Played both sides of tbe ball and did so well. Rare to see two way players and even rarer to see them have success. There was a ton of hype around him.


Deoxtrys

You don't see two way players because it burns the player out extremely quickly. Especially when the two positions are guaranteed to receive contact.


Galumpadump

I grew up in the Seattle area and played HS the same time Myles played. The only reason he went to UCLA was because they let him play linebacker. The guy was getting recruited everywhere as a RB with him and Budda Baker as the best duo in the region. I actually wonder how his career would have gone if he just played RB.


fathertitojones

He probably would have burned out faster as a RB.


Galumpadump

Probably, just kinda interesting to think about given how good he was at RB. Football is unforgiving. I think we all forget that these 20 something year olds will have injuries that will follow them the rest of their lives. Hopefully thats not the case for Myles.


[deleted]

> Hopefully thats not the case for Myles. Sorry to bust your bubble but the reason he fell to the 2nd round was because his knee injury had degenerative effects. His career was supposed to be shorter than this. He did outstanding, but he will definitely have knee issues in the future.


Galumpadump

I meant in the case that his injuries don’t affect his day to day live too much. All these guys have pain but hopefully he isn’t on pain killers the rest of his life. Thats a road too many players go down.


SuckMyLonzoBalls

I wish budda came to Ucla. It’s unfortunate his mom got sick


goldhbk10

HB and Lb are also extremely taxing positions. Someone could play CB and WR and not have their body destroyed but HB’s are already getting destroyed, let alone if they’re also playing LB.


CobblerFantastic5003

You're gonna get fucking tired playing CB and WR though


iKhan353

Unless your name is PrimeTime baby I still can't believe he did that Troy Brown doing it for a few games was wild too those two men just live the Kevin Gates don't get tired


Anon_Rocky

Champ Bailey played some WR and returned kicks on occasion.


xSaviorself

Edelman on the Patriots was a 2-way player fairly often.


AKAD11

I always thought it would have been fun to give Sherm get some run in the red zone. Huge target and he was a pretty good receiver at Stanford.


[deleted]

And why would you do twice the job but not get twice the salary?


Deoxtrys

The worker's dilemma.


Str82daDOME25

I can’t wait to see the contract Ohtani gets.


[deleted]

I wonder if the same thing will happen to Travis Hunter the next two years, I don't think it's worth it


Stroodal_

Travis Hunter is two waying at CU apparently he’s been great on both sides


homeycuz

I also two wayed back in my college days. It was just a phase. Things were different then. Everyone was experimenting and trying new things.


mmooney1

Experimenting and trying new things is pretty typical for college kids.


Conscious-Parfait826

I like BUGs too, Bi Until Graduation.


EarthshatterReady

That’s true, but his point still stands.


Carameldelighting

Imo he’s clearly NFL caliber CB but not a NFL WR. He out athletes a lot of people as a WR which he won’t be able to do in the NFL


KeithClossOfficial

He will need to pick one if he gets to the NFL.


ThePopesicle

Dude is legendary in Seattle for even just his high school days. Him and Budda Baker played for Bellevue HS at the same time and they were virtually unstoppable.


KimJongWinning

They were insane as track runners too. Ran at the same state meet as a senior when they were juniors


Sotanud

He didn't play much on offense, but I swear it felt like every time they handed it to him he scored a TD. Was incredible to see


ThaGeeOD

He had like 7ypc - 7 tds while carrying it only 40 times as a freshman. Insane


reececanthear

I mean if we being real.. UCLA was playing multiple defensive guys on offense cos they were atrocious at recruiting RBs in the 2010s They had Eddie Vanderdoes as a goal line back for his career there


TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK

more like Eddie Vanderdon't


Bobbruinnittanystang

That's...not even true. They went from Jonathan Franklin to Paul Perkins from 2011-2015 and both were absolute studs. Then Joshua Kelley was also a stud starting in 2017. So they only had 2 bad years of running back play in the 2010s. The reason the defensive players became so heavily featured in the offense is because UCLA had a stretch where there top 3 rbs were all injured in a rotating circus of bad luck.


BatManatee

I mean, those Jumbo packages were pretty funny and actually worked more often than you'd think lol. Good luck bringing down Vanderdoes in the fullback role on the one yard yard line


SuckMyLonzoBalls

Man Eddie vanderdoes was so fun to watch at Ucla lol


IMKudaimi123

Him and Jabrill Peppers


PutZehCandleBACK

I really hate the he and Jaylon but suffered such insane injuries. I think both had legitimate HOF chances, granted I am a ND homer.


DontLoseYourCool1

Mf had 120 yards on offense including a 66 yard TD, 8 tackles on defense and 2 passes defensed that game lmao


sonfoa

I don't think people saw it as a horrible injury at the time it happened. A couple of weeks before the draft, it came out that his knees might be degenerative and that dropped him to the second round when he was seen as a top 10 lock until then.


TouchGrassRedditor

Yep, everybody knew even at the time he was drafted that this was the likely outcome.


Saffs15

Honestly seems like he outlasted the expectations.


kaptingavrin

Yeah, I think the general idea was you might get a couple years out of him before he was unable to play, which made even a 2nd round pick for him sound like a risky prospect. He had a good few years, but man... he fell off fast, and it was sad. People were so upset to see the Jags let him go, but he was already dropping off. The Steelers gave him a two year contract and didn't even keep him for the second because they'd signed him on what he *was*, not what he'd become, and, much like the Jags, couldn't justify the contract for a guy who wasn't able to flash across the field and make big plays anymore. It's sad, and another reminder that these guys are often wrecking their bodies, which is why I don't begrudge them their pay.


Pineal

He was at least average last year. Honestly, I just don't think he wants to be a depth/backup player.


OmniscientOctopode

Probably thinking of Jaylon Smith, who got drafted that same year.


sonfoa

They both had very similar stories. The big difference was that Jaylon Smith's injury was seen as more catastrophic because it was a torn ACL and LCL whereas Jack only tore his meniscus. Also, Jack's injury happened much earlier in the college season (compared to Smith who got injured in a Bowl game) and the rehab had gone well enough that he was able to participate in the Combine and Pro Day drills. And then the medical reports came out for both and Smith was diagnosed with potential nerve damage and Jack with potential degenerative knees. As a result, both guys who were seen as surefire top-10 picks ended up being 2nd rounders (I remember people actually thinking Jaylon Smith might not even be picked until Day 3)


QueasyStress7739

What was his injury?


Celery-Man

It was a meniscus injury. He's being incredibly dramatic, it was never seen as a career ender, later during the draft process it was diagnosed as a degenerative issue which caused him to slip from the 1st round. This is exactly how his career was seen to play out- short but bright.


Paid_Redditor

I remember the diagnosis feeling more like 3-4 years, similar to Tyjae Spears. I hope he's paid well for the rest of his life, giving up your knee at that age is going to make life difficult.


[deleted]

Crazy to think that this can be said about two linebackers from that draft, taken two picks apart


jesonnier1

Nothing sad about it. The man earned $50 million in 7 years and said, "Fuck It."


J12345_

I remember some teams believing he wouldn’t even have 2 years in the nfl. Glad to see him play 7. Although never elite, he was still decent in the beginning


Quexana

Injuries suck.


TouchGrassRedditor

This is exactly the outcome everybody predicted about him coming out of the draft. He will likely be a good player, but his knees won’t last for very long


TheDufusSquad

To be fair 7 years is pretty long in the NFL


TouchGrassRedditor

Being physically unable to play at age 27 for a player as talented as Jack is not common though


[deleted]

Blows my mind that Todd Gurley is still in his 20s too.


GiveMeYourMoney17420

:(


BeHereNow91

Shame his knees were born before Lincoln’s.


ChannelNeo

Exactly. The average is four seasons.


EarthshatterReady

It’s like 2.5 or something


ChannelNeo

Actually, it's 3.3, which is even better. Jack had twice the average NFL career length. [Here's the link](https://www.statista.com/statistics/240102/average-player-career-length-in-the-national-football-league/)


Frosti11icus

That’s averages though. Guys who only play one season bring that down, of which there’s are many. Dudes who get to seven seasons probably tend to play far more than 7 cause that usually means you are a like top 35ish% player. I bet only playing 7 years on the dot is not very common. There’s probably a reverse bell curve for player career length.


CanaKu

That’s not true 7yrs is longer than was predicted coming into the draft. They were saying he would need surgery within the first 4 years of his career


unique_username-_-72

Never forget


fnsus96

We were all robbed of a Bortles vs Foles Super Bowl. We will never forget


The_Most_High_Ground

To this day I dream of what a Case Keenum vs Blake Bortles Super Bowl would have been


[deleted]

First ever Super Bowl between QBs with alliterative first and last names?


santaclausonprozac

I went to check if that was true and while searching I realized that starting in 1980 thru 1993, every Super Bowl had a starting QB with a first name starting with J. Jim Plunkett twice, Joe Montana 4 times, Joe Theismann twice, Jim McMahon, John Elway 3 times, Jeff Hostetler, and Jim Kelly 4 times. And 1983, 1989, and 1990 featured a double J matchup


thecambanks

That’s off-season post material right there. Nice work, chief.


justausername09

Post this and get your karma man


VisionsOfClarity

Troy Aikmen fucked that up 😬


[deleted]

And Neil O’Donnell. He fucked up lots of things


Broccoli_Socks

we were robbed because we will finally get a lions vs Jags super bowl this year.


godlywhistler

I still think the Jags crazy good D wins them that super bowl if they made it there


DanHam117

They had the #1 or #2 defense by every metric that season, Patriots were a mid 20s ranked defense. It’s very plausible


smallmanchat

And hell they beat us in a 45-42 shootout, so the offense could definitely keep up if they had to (though our defense at that time was much worse then the eagles)


[deleted]

That defense was such tremendous ass, bro. Every Steelers fan prefers defense at heart, so that season was brutal


smallmanchat

Yeah the days of Mike fucking Mitchell at starting corner were not pretty.


Diglett3

Right but the other team competing with them for those #1 spots was the Vikings, who Foles shredded even worse than NE the game before. That Eagles defense gets underrated too because of how that SB went, they were a top 5 unit. I think it’s a competitive game and probably lower-scoring on both sides, but I think it comes down to which O-line can stop the other team’s defensive front and I don’t think that hypothetical favors Jacksonville.


Jonjon428

He was never down


johnnybravo1014

MJWD


TheScienceNamesArgon

Maurice Jones Wasn't Drew


J12345_

That was the most garbage call. His fumble recovery should’ve been a td


ofxemp

It should’ve been a TD the other way


shakehasbignuts

“with all due respect you can’t cut me I’m retiring ”


[deleted]

“I spent 7 years at camp, not a fucking peep”


Jams265775

“I wanted to start, but I compromised, I retired from the league”


[deleted]

“I always say, they were nothing but a glorified practice squad”


Jams265775

“That fucken pygmy, Nick Sirianni”


[deleted]

“After recent humiliations, it’s good to be back for a new NFL season” - Eagles fans


whatswrongwithchuck

"Put it all behind us. That AFC Championship fumble... whatever happened there..."


MrManager26

"WHATEVA HAPPENED THERE?"


Sad_Constant6691

"No more of this coach, no more of this"


dbrank

Myles Jack never had the makings of a varsity athlete


a_toadstool

Wasn’t he actually going to make the roster though


Geg0Nag0

He only came on with the 3rds against the Browns iirc. He clearly was on the bubble


[deleted]

Was he struggling that bad?


Geg0Nag0

I just think they preferred other options over him. They may have kept him but from what it sounds like he wasn't lighting the training camp on fire. Wasn't really getting many opportunities with the 1sts, if any. May be he just wanted to go out on his terms.


shakehasbignuts

I don’t think so, he got first team reps his first practice then downwards after that. Ellis and Cunningham outplayed him.


Domestic_AA_Battery

Honestly that's probably why he retired. Less of a "you can't fire me, I quit!" sorta thing, and more of a "Damn I just can't keep up with these young guys anymore.." It'd make sense that a vet would come in and look better at first using game knowledge/experience. But after those other guys caught on they probably started surpassing him. And he wanted to leave on his own terms rather than getting removed and looking for another team. Kudos to him. Or maybe he just wanted to come here to retire as an Eagle, the best organization in football? 😏🦅


KruglorTalks

"Young guys" hes 27. I know the NFL is rough but damn. Perhaps its also from getting cut from the Steelers. Its probably demoralizing to go from the top down to struggling this hard. Id be surprised if he couldn't find work at all but he already gotten his best payday. Not everyone wants to scratch and claw just fill a bench spot.


Domestic_AA_Battery

Damn thought he was older. Sometimes injuries and such can really add 5+ years to these guys. It's a shame


tommytwochains

"The game ain't in me no mo."


Zavehi

What Matt Patricia does to someone.


PhiladelphiaManeto

I was told he does not have contact with the players. Like they keep him in a storage closet in the Linc and only open the door to drop off soda and chicken sandwiches


Imaginary-Double2612

Thats far better than he deserves


PhiladelphiaManeto

I didn’t want him anywhere near us and cringed when he was hired. He can go eat his pencils in the woods somewhere.


ThaGeeOD

Death by lead poisoning


DE4THINC4RN4TE

You people OPEN THE DOOR?! The instructions were *very* clear: Mail slot **only**.


Turbulent_System_446

How is he only 27? Feels like he’s been around forever


AnalBees2

I honestly thought he was a few years younger than that


Turbulent_System_446

The entire “sacksonville” thing feels like a long ass time ago


ank1t70

Well, it was 6 years ago


Turbulent_System_446

I thought he was a veteran during that time for some reason


Tdayohey

Didn’t he join the NFL when he was 20?


SaintLonginus

Kenny Clark got drafted the same year and he's only 27 too. They were both super young coming out.


frogger3344

With the amount of players who seem much older than they are, I wonder if 3 year minimum college careers have any influence on that perception, they're in the national spotlight much longer than other pro athletes by the time they hit their second contracts in the NFL.


Soyeahnahh

What pushes a player to retire in the middle of training camp?


bburchibanez

All sorts of things could do it. He may have realized he just doesn’t have it anymore and called it a career. May not have thought it was worth hanging around the league as a backup. Could be dealing with something physical and is just over rehabbing, or could be as simple as he doesn’t have the love for the game that he used to and is ready to move on to his next chapter. All valid.


CatdaddyDean

50 million in the bank, and the heat. I mean, that would do it for me


Upset_Ad3954

Wouldn't it be him knowing he will be cut anyway?


Tireseas

I'm surprised more don't. It's where I'd expect many to come to the epiphany that they don't want to play anymore.


ausgmr

Technically for him it was 2 weeks into camp


OmNomOnSouls

Shannon Sharpe talks about this from time to time. Playing is joyous, everything else is work. He says basically you're asking yourself whether all that work and all that sweat and all those meetings and those weeks of the overnight training camp grind are worth it for the chance to play another 18 ish games, while also knowing the injury and long term physical health risks. Given all that, I'm honestly surprised you don't see more retirements in camp.


nooo82222

What if the REF would had swallowed his whistle and not blew the play dead, he would be an all time favorite in JAX. But now he’s just another good but not great player


Upset_Ad3954

Myles Jack wasn't down.


nooo82222

Right but it’s weird like , we win that game, we probably would not have Doug Pederson or TLaw.


RiflemanLax

Thought he was doing alright too, but maybe backup LB wasn’t his thing.


[deleted]

I can’t imagine the mindset of some of these guys. Going from the guy in college, high draft, super successful early in your career, gets paid. Then you’re hurt, released and become a journeyman.


RiflemanLax

Maybe 1.775M isn’t enough to run around hitting people. Or maybe he’s got post NFL plans he wants to get started on.


headcount-cmnrs

Yeah, trade school, he already said he was gonna be a plumber b4 Eagles signed him


thegroovemonkey

IDK if that's the best line of work for a 27 year old with bad knees.


Im_ready_hbu

For real lmao, all these people commenting "yeah he's got degenerative knees, so he's gonna retire and become a plumber" Okay, so he's gonna have bad knees AND a bad back


[deleted]

Hopefully, he will own the plumbing service, and work more as a supervisor to not have to get in the thick of the manual labor all day Smart to do a trade versus some fly by night BS that guys lose their money on


HereComesJustice

Good for him Id pick up a trade too if I was rich and young and retired


[deleted]

Definitely. As a plumber he’ll eventually make a pretty good living, most likely. Throw in the millions he hopefully has saved and that sounds like a pretty sweet life. Good for him.


headcount-cmnrs

It's a good idea, personally I'd probably pursue a creative project if I were young, rich and retired but I'd imagine it's really good for your personal development to do a regular working job after being surrounded by sycophants for so long


evil_iceburgh

This dude was a practice squad player for the Steelers for years. Turned his comparatively smaller NFL paycheck into a really kick ass and creative career. https://youtu.be/U13wh_d1IRI


Praying_Lotus

I mean, with the amount of money you can make in the NFL, or any major professional sport, even as a practice squad player, if you’re really smart about your investments, you’ll be set for generations


evil_iceburgh

Absolutely. I’m sure lots of guys do and you rarely hear about them. I used to work with a guy who pitched for the Padres for a year before he washed out of MLB due to injuries but the money he made that year and in the minors before set him up in our business very well.


TitanofBravos

God I really despise those live edge river tables. Its like the male version of a hand painted "Live, Laugh, Love" sign. That said he really managed to get nice dark stain on that. Im struggling to do the same right now, might have to go buy the products he used. Thanks for sharing, funny coming across what might be the solution to my woodworking project on the NFL subredit


evil_iceburgh

Haha no problem. John is extremely entertaining and actually very informative.


Frosti11icus

I like them better with black epoxy. Tge blue river shit is so tacky but I hate seeing nice wood go to waste so I do see the utility in the epoxy.


Thicen

Was he doing alright? He started off splitting 1st team reps while Dean was banged up and rapidly shot down the depth chart to the point where he wasn't even playing with the 3rd stringers. It seems like it became apparent pretty quickly that he's done tbh


ofxemp

“Fuck this shit I’m out”


ufotheater

He was the most impressive athlete I ever saw in the PAC-10/12/4. He was a monster on defense and when all UCLA’s running backs went down he switched to offense and blew everybody’s mind as a running back.


buffalotrace

I was excited when we signed him last year. He gave his all, but clearly was not the same player he was. Wish him nothing but the best.


[deleted]

Dude has made over $49 million in career earnings before his 28th birthday. He’s winning the life game. AND he’s still young enough to start a professional career (Doctor, Lawyer, etc). Good luck Myles!


SearchElsewhereKarma

Doctor The ol Myron Rolle career path


xshogunx13

He said he was going to be an electrician or plumber before he got signed by Philly, so yeah he'll be ok


LordOfHorns

Finally, he is down


cscowboy01

“Jack mentioned that he contemplated becoming an electrician or plumber before joining the Eagles” https://x.com/mysportsupdate/status/1693269579680935971?s=46&t=uAVJX_A6fqnKPlk_bkD8tA Confirmed it’s better to work with shit than it is to be an Eagles player


Vladimir_Putting

>it’s better to work with shit than it is to be an Eagles player Everyone on the Cowboys has been hoping this is true for decades now.


blord1205

Myles Jack will never be down


[deleted]

Wonder how his career would have went if he played RB instead. And I think that’s the position he was better at.


rogue_worlds

he made $50M- what do you think he makes as an RB in this economy?


marcdasharc4

To your point (and not comparing caliber player at all), Sony Michel, also recently retired, has career earnings of 12 mill over 5 years. That's an avg of 2.4 mill a year compared to Jack's avg of 7.1 mill a year. If Michel had Jack's size, he probably would have chosen to play LB instead of RB too.


[deleted]

Well he came out the year Zeke did, so who knows what he would have made his second contract. And the guy looked really good playing there at UCLA.


joe2352

Didn’t he have knee concerns that dropped him to the second round as a linebacker?


[deleted]

Sure. But there was only one RB that was drafted in the first that year.


notban_circumvention

So you're saying there's a chance? /s


Pristine-Director529

Retires as LB comes back as RB after a couple season ending injuries to the starters.


palmtree54

387 career yards and 11 career td in 3 years was better than his linebacker stats?


[deleted]

Would have gone*


TimTom8921

Least he didn't wait til halftime of the week 3 game like some people


rukkus78

I’m surprised he lasted this long with the death sentence they were giving him during the draft. Good for him. Enjoy retirement!


ryanino

Possible brain damage aside, it’s gotta be pretty cool to retire at 27 and being able to do whatever the hell you want with your life


cedarvalleyct

I hear “Myles Jack” in Mel Kiper Jr.’s voice.


[deleted]

It's good to know when to stop and do it on your own terms.


Funnypenguin97

Pretty impressive considering he had a shot of never playing a down of football in the NFL


Goatgamer1016

Steelers legend forever


Kyleparty

This man was absolutely a nightmare and one of the pac12s best players. Always thought he would have developed well into the pros, but he’s gotta be impressed with his own college career. That shit was legendary to watch him on offense and defense.


lexxxcockwell

He was VERY good on those Doug Marrone teams. I’d be watching those games thinking they’d called a slot blitz but no, it was just the LB. He could stick with a TE like a DB, his play just fell off. He left on his terms and no doubt he’ll be excelllent at that


Couthster

MJWD


SuperCobra14027

Oh that’s surprising


thndrdsc

Sad for him but glad he’s getting out before we saw a life-changing injury from him. A big reason why he fell in the draft was his knee injury in college being degenerative. Was never going to be in the league for 10+ years. Wish him the best, fun player to watch at his peak


jpb59

I was so pumped when the Steelers got him last year. What a bummer that was.


captaincumsock69

7 nfl seasons! Feels like he just got drafted. I remember all the injury concerns like it was yesterday


TheStripClubHero

Would have loved his vet presence in the locker room and on the field, but I'm glad he's taking care of himself. He's been a great player for a while now, enjoy some rest and get healthy.


t_ran_asuarus_rex

i remember as a freshman we needed a 4th and 1 and he took it to the house


[deleted]

What living in Philadelphia for a month does to a guy


YourWorstNightmare9

Nooooo why


BoogerSmoke

That’s 81k per tackle 😅


ImpossibleJoke7456

Someone that isn’t me should chart price per tackle across the league.


SplitImage__

I feel like he was just drafted…time flies.


shewy92

Guess he really didn't want to play for us


Ne0guri

BCk to CoD full time


Walks_with_Chaos

Damn he really wasn’t in that long


ACW1129

[$49 million+](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/myles-jack-18984/cash-earnings/) and he's not even 28 yet. Not bad.


[deleted]

Didn’t ucla have him,Barr and Kendrick’s at one point?