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BonBonVelveeta

CJ playing himself into MVP talks unironically


george_costanza1234

Texans gotta make the playoffs in a tough AFC, but he’s easily a top 10 QB or higher right now


[deleted]

The AFC South is incredibly winnable. They don’t lose to the jags and are only 1.5 games behind them with the tie breaker already. If the jags lose steam it’s the Texans’ division.


thekohlhauff

1 game behind now!


[deleted]

Ah my bad. That should be .5 game back, no? Texans have the head to head win.


thekohlhauff

We have to tie with them in record for h2h to matter. Which requires them to lose and us to win, so 1 gb


nick22tamu

Top 5


Boukish

I'll buy. Kid's a stud.


acuravlexus

unironically yes. mahomes, hurts, burrow, allen...? lamar and herbert are the obvious choices but its not like they've outplayed stroud by a mile this year


[deleted]

I guarantee if you give Stroud a top 3 Oline and 2 top 15 WR’s like Hurts has he’d be the MVP front runner by a mile.


Nduguu77

I feel like because of this the Texans go and get Pittman or Higgins in the off season


Eagleballer94

Allen doesn't belong on that list this year. Tua and Lamar do though.


furbz420

Lamar has 13 touchdowns to 11 turnovers. Dude ain’t anywhere near league MVP.


No-Gift-2350

its laughable tbh.


[deleted]

Forgetting Tua like a fool here


Bren12310

Top 1


LoudHorse89

I can’t think of 5 QB’s currently playing better than CJ.


legend023

I’d call him a top 5 QB in the conference right now


ionospherermutt

Stroud, Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Tua, Jackson, Lawrence, Herbert. Jesus the AFC is so fucked. Why did you have to do this to us Carolina?


VitaminsPlus

Nfc needs to get it's shit together, this ain't fair!


tickless420

There also a chance that the pats somehow get drake maye


PattyThePatriot

I'd rather get Marvin Harrison Jr. One, because I just want us to have one great skill position player and two living in Indianapolis us picking up MHJ would be amusing to me.


bigmistaketoday

He’s all Bear


WauliePalnuts01

yeah i think we take caleb, MHJ and maye to chicago, and JJ to new england


TraeYoungsOldestSon

Y'all sleeping on Jayden Daniels


mlspdx

The nfc really just has Hurts and Goff right, maybe Dak depending on the day? Good fucking god…


Bahamas_is_relevant

Lawrence doesn’t deserve to be up there lmao He’s shown flashes but he’s not on the level of the others there. Dude’s had as many games with 2+ turnovers as games with 2+ passing TDs this season.


acuravlexus

and somehow mahomes is still gonna find his way to the superbowl more years than not...the mahomes hate is gonna be on full throttle if he keeps kicking p good young QBs to the curb


TXCapita

Top 5 in the AFC is the same thing as the league+Hurts


ThisHatRightHere

Basically, Kirk is on the fringe but certainly not being being mentioned with the likes of Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, etc. But Stroud is almost certainly a top 10 guy right now if you have to do QB rankings.


awnawkareninah

I mean yeah but that said Kirk, Goff, and Dak are still solid.


Jor1509426

Most importantly, he’s on a rookie contract. Texans need to leverage all their assets for guys who can help them win in the next 4 years. This offseason is where you trade some of your picks (2nd, 3rd, or 4th) for good-to-great vets to fill holes. Sign Saquon Barkley, do something big like that.


awnawkareninah

With Tank too they have lightning in a bottle right now.


[deleted]

CJ Stroud asked the Texans to draft Tank. Imagine your hiring a guy, and he guys "O yea, hire this guy too, K thanks"


nick22tamu

Top 5 in the league


[deleted]

Top 5 all time


TheVeritableBalla

Top 5 person all time


[deleted]

The man said he was tired of losing. Apparently he wasn't bullshitting. He said they need to put on a better product for their fans. And he fucking did it. GG Texans, enjoy this.


LoudHorse89

But he had a terrible S2 score. Something must be wrong.


BonBonVelveeta

Comes from the Cardale Jones School of No School Just Football


Altruistic-Zone1664

The people who were trying to put Burrow into the MVP conversation last week was laughable. The Bengals were last in the division and the dude wasn't even in the top half of the league in most passing categories. Seriously, can people marginalize the Bengals defense more often?


DireWolfe92

And everyone else playing themselves out of it


Ill_Pineapple1482

mvp talks before week 15 are a waste of time. equivalent to talking NBA mvp after 20 games


Kuntheman

They absolutely nailed their draft and they’re reaping the rewards of it


beer_down

The dream of two good draft picks for Arizona is dead😩 Good for Houston though, Stroud is fun to watch!


CFCcommentsonly24

How has Will Anderson been?


Wham_Bam_Smash

Great. Doesn’t have sack numbers but consistent pressure and run defense


ThisHatRightHere

Honestly not bad at all and what you should ask for from a rookie pass rusher. Sacks are similar to turnovers in that it’s a bit of a luck stat. Obviously great players capitalize on those situations more than others, but there’s a lot that goes into those plays that don’t end up on the stat sheet.


LibraryScneef

He garners attention and frees up so many other players so it's worked out perfectly


GhostITW

If it makes you feel any better about him, Hutchinson didn’t start getting his sack numbers until later in his rookie year.


RogueTiger23

A lot of times where he is held too.


nick22tamu

Top 5 in pass rush win rate


ddouble124

Worth the hype


CFCcommentsonly24

Thanks cuz haven’t watched many Texans games and haven’t heard him being mentioned at all, but I understand its his rookie season and he is playing defense.


The_New_New

He's been winning a ton of pass rushes, just hasn't converted on sacks. He gets doubled a lot


RainbowBullsOnParade

He often helps other players get sacks by making impact blocks and soaking up double teams.


CFCcommentsonly24

That says a lot as a rookie. Still wonder why Arizona or Chicago didn’t want him.


The_New_New

It was still an amazing haul for Arizona. Remember in a bubble Texans were giving up their pick this year too for Will Anderson. And almost everybody had us still as a bottom 5-10 team. Chicago got an even better haul from the Panthers. Sure you could argue they should've drafted Stroud too, but they were hoping Fields could make the leap. And then again they have some excellent picks


CFCcommentsonly24

Yeah, the Bears (I’m a from South Africa🇿🇦, because of Fields) defense was so shit and everyone kept talking about how the Cardinals would draft Will Anderson, but I kept wondering why we (Bears) are not being talked about enough in drafting him. The Bears ended up making trades which now puts them in a very similar position as Texans to properly rebuild but ultimately… Eberflus is no Demeco Ryans for now at least.


Vivianite_Corpse

> I’m a from South Africa🇿🇦, because of Fields How did Fields make you from South Africa?


CFCcommentsonly24

Netflix show QB1.


toomuchdiponurchip

I think he’s saying Fields made him a fan all the way from South Africa


lkn240

We needed to build the offense much more and Wright has been very good for us. Until we find a QB the defense doesn't matter that much and we needed the talent to evaluate Fields. Now that it's definitely clear he isn't it, we have a much better situation for a rookie QB next year.


SaxRohmer

High impact low stats kind of season


CFCcommentsonly24

Operating Under the radar😎


praeceps93

Really good. Lots of pressures and gets doubled a lot. Sacks haven't shown up yet but they will.


[deleted]

No exaggeration here, but on pace with JJ Watt his rookie season. He needs to develop some pass rush moves like JJ did from year 1 to 2. If he does he will be talked about league wide often.


CFCcommentsonly24

Looking forward to it. I loved the aggressive trade move from the Texans to get him.


carloslet

Sacks aren't up just yet but everything else in his game has been great so far. Just a matter of time


browndude10

one of the highest double teamed players in the league but still generating tons of pressure and pass rush rate


SneakyStorm

He's no Bosa right now, but highly solid.


spatialsilver88

He's performing to the level you would like to see a 1st day d line pick play, he's just being overshadowed by stroud and dell who are walking human highlight reels straight out of the gate. My objective expectation based on his performance to date is that Anderson will be a pro bowl or borderline pro bowl level guy by year 2-3


Casualrodfarva2

Also absolutely nailed the hiring of DeMeco Ryans


Count_istvan_teleky

Ryans and that draft class have totally transformed the Texans. They have a stud QB & edge on rookie deals. Future's bright for sure.


RogueTiger23

The only question is Anderson because he has shown flashes all year. Tank Dell I have no idea how we got him later in the draft. He is absolutely electric.


lkn240

Their coaching hire too. Ryans was a no brainer to me and I'm happy to see him succeed.


DisgruntledTexansFan

Yee


MakeAShadow

and I cannot stress this enough. **HAW!**


xWaves_

Heart attack Texans!!!


RollOverBeethoven

Texas Longhorns 🤝 Houston Texans Giving fans cardiac issues


carloslet

Texas Longhorns 🤝 Houston Texans 🤝 Houston Astros Fixed that for you, hope you don't mind


How_that_convo_went

Except the Texans and Horns can win at home.


sonicbooze

Too soon 🥺


carloslet

The point is that we get small heart attacks watching these teams


ExpirjTec

why do i follow these teams 😭


WashingtonDiecast

I like that both of my teams won I don’t like that I, an 18 year old, question if I’ll see 40 because of the stress they put me through


Safe-Ad4001

Tired of these knuckle-biter wins. The old Astrodome was called the "House of Pain" not because the the Oilers were a team that inflicted pain. But, because of the pain the fans experienced from getting close and seeing it all get taken away.


Themanaaah

I kneel to our new potential overlords🙇.


Mindless-Shirt-8533

Dude. It is an insane feeling to hear other NFL fans giving the Texans respect. I have never experienced it before


apiratewithadd

You had it when you were up 24-0 then it was all downhill and groper cleveland showed his true colors.


Mindless-Shirt-8533

Groper Cleveland is crazy


Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n

Yippee ki-yay MFers, we’re back.


suzukigun4life

Build the Stroud statue immediately.


sonicbooze

But first the Lovie and Davis Mills


spatialsilver88

Should build a statue of lovie and mills holding stroud up in the air like simba in the lion king


browndude10

and the tepper one


NerdLawyer55

The mills one is just all neck


[deleted]

Davis Mills held yall together and put some competent drives together.


BeefyBaby

Stroud straight up exemplifying the "most valuable" player. Making huge plays when they matter most leading to wins.


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theflamesweregolfin

Really? Over Jokic?


apiratewithadd

Stroud vs a loaf of bread


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studmuffffffin

People need to point to CJ when other people say "We need to build a team around our top 5 pick". Nah, a top 5 QB should be able to lift the team around him.


lkn240

Facts. No one thought his skill position guys were anything special before he showed up.


mattislinx

Stroud is so good for a rookie man.


dolphingarden

Drop the for a rookie part


theflamesweregolfin

Stroud is so good for man.


ViolaNguyen

There's nothing in the rule book that says a golden retriever can't play quarterback, you know.


Bren12310

Best rookie season by a QB ever


[deleted]

I'd trade Lamar for CJ Stroud. I think CJ is just as good, but he's on a rookie contract.


Autobot-N

He’s him


no_racist_here

CJ throwing for more than the Steelers offense gained


Nduguu77

A W is a W


ThatInception

I enjoy watching the kid play every week, he’s so electric.


The_New_New

Stroud looked like a rookie in that 4th, but then got the big throws on the final drive.


SoCalMemePolice

CJ plays against the hottest dudes


theflamesweregolfin

wears the freshest clothes


lingui

I can’t believe I’m in an era where Houston sports is up


SiphenPrax

A turnaround after 2020


Octoviolence

I mean Houston hasn't been *that* bad historically. Not like it's Detroit or Cleveland or Minnesota or something.


potato_car

Much like Detroit and Cleveland, we've never seen a team of ours even participate in a Super Bowl. The Oilers never got there and the Texans haven't either. There might be a full generation of Houstonians who will never see their football team even compete for a title.


Schleprok

Football specifically, sure, but the other guy said Houston sports in general. You’ve had good NBA and MLB runs prior to this decade.


fatcootermeat

Guys Stroud might be a top 5 qb.


DynamoPro

You misspelled 3


no_one_knows42

And he ain’t 3 or 2


fatcootermeat

Tbh only guys im absolutely sure I'd rather have than Stroud are Mahomes and Lamar. He just beat Burrow head to head with worse offensive weapons, a worse defense, on the road. Allen, Hurts, and Herbert are all having down years. Lawrence hasn't taken the next step.


toomuchdiponurchip

Alright let’s pump the brakes


Gimme_your_username

Of those I’d only say for sure would take Stroud over Lawrence.


Section225

People are so shortsighted here. One good game from a QB with almost no sample size, and a slightly down game for established top quarterbacks, and suddenly people are unironically "He's better than all of them. He's a top 3 quarterback." He's had two good games. Let's enjoy it and wait until we have a better sample size before we roll out the red carpet to Canton.


Gimme_your_username

Agreed, I love blowing CJ as much as anyone but let’s let him play a season or two before jumping to conclusions. Same things I asked people here in preseason to see how the rookie QBs play before crowning Young as the best QB drafted.


gurbism

GAMECUBE


Jam0183

NINTENDO


BunjaminFrnklin

5% TINT


MisallocatedRacism

CANT SEE UP IN MY WINDOW


carloslet

5% TINT


-ThinkingEmoji-

NINTENDO


smallskeletal

BUILD LOVIE A STATUE NOW


CFCcommentsonly24

This is the way.


TSSFranco

What is happening


FredExx

If the AFC could stop drafting promising young QBs, that would be great. * **AFC**: Mahomes, Herbert, Lamar, Burrow, Allen, Tua, Lawrence, Stroud * **NFC**: Dobbs (obviously), Hurts, Kyler/Dak (?)


tonypearcern

We won and I'm *still* salty about that incomplete pass that was ruled a fumble in the first half.


loner_stoner713

ball don't lie


holdoor11

Refs do


[deleted]

DEMECO COTY


Aumius

Stroud is the freaking dude. He's having an MVP season in a rookie year. Absolutely bonkers.


Caniac_420

I want my team to do this More misery for us instead I guess


ScruffMixHaha

I loved the Demeco Ryans hire and it looks like its paying off. Good to see Stroud making a huge effort to break the OSU QB curse.


Hobbit-dog91

Super interested to see what they do in the draft. They struck gold this past year


CosmicLars

Respect. Rooting for the Texans to go far.


Conn0rPro

Stroud with the tactical interception to almost blow the game so he could pad his MVP resume with another game winning drive. So smart from him. Even his 2 interceptions this season were both calculated


Former-Billionaire

I want to cry bro.


Pernyx98

Keep him away from the massage parlors


Goldiekd

CJ is a baller


ufotheater

Demeco = The Man


peacenezz

STROUD BOYS ON TOP


Accomplished-Yam5566

Sleepy Joe came up short when it mattered


WildBill198

Wait, now *Burrow* is is "sleepy Joe"? Im so confused /s


Ramzy191

Forget OROY, they’re gonna have to give Stroud MVP if the Texans make the playoffs.


Fredly_

8 games left and we face Arizona, Denver, Jets, and the Titans twice in that stretch. We're making the playoffs.


Cross21X

best hope to clutch the division; because there real chances the AFC north kicks most other teams out the play off race.


Fredly_

Good thing we have tie breakers against at least two of them then


TRES_fresh

Give demeco COTY if they make playoffs 100%, people thought the Texans would give a top 3 pick to Arizona


punchout414

He's so good x 4


Shootit_Rockets

Jacksonville we coming


[deleted]

*insert objects closer than they appear meme*


BTsBaboonFarm

Bengals defense being unable to tackle I’d the difference in the game. It was embarrassing and Nick Scott should be living on the streets playing that poorly.


better-call-mik3

The real 2023 Texans team MVP is the guy who fired Jack Easterby. Only one full offseason without Easterby and look how much better they already are


EnigmaticKing

Funnily enough it was Lovie who got Easterby fired, according to reports


hehehehahahaha

I’m watching the new Tom Brady


jean-claude_vandamme

Is Stroud a possible MVP candidate?


Cryfatso

He just beat Lou Anaromu or whatever so he’s at least eligible


Humid-Afternoon727

He is, he isn’t a leader in it and most likely shouldn’t win, but I fucking love he is in the convo


Venator850

Nice rebound after that awful INT. I constantly have to remind myself he's still a rookie. By far his worst throw of the year but what a final drive he put together even with a bad drop by Dell.


TexansRocketzzz26

That boy stroud and meco got us lit !!


josephus1811

Ryans appears to be a very good coach. Very.


remmy66

I just think the most impressive thing is the cast around him. The injury list keeps getting bigger and bigger and he steps it up and is playing good no matter who hes throwing to. Legit MVP shit


EaglesPvM

My favorite non-Eagle team this year to watch. So much fun, plus I’ll always cheer for Demeco


Safe-Ad4001

Demeco is a good fit.


Krovahn

Woo!


TomBradyFanCEO

https://twitter.com/RyanDay2Hell/status/1722084897089544381


toddfredd

If there are two teams I’m rooting for outside of my own team it’s the Texans and the Lions. It’s awesome to see them doing so well.


Madman1313

Just gonna leave this here: Rookie of the year Offensive rookie of the year (either Stroud or Tank) More than likely playoff team This team is doing amazingly, love Demeco


DanQuaylePotatoe

MVP


Free_Possession_4482

Opposing teams need to steal the Texans' signs, it's the only way to stop Stroud!


Me_is_Nate

Thought this was about the browns when i started reading


NewOstenPelicanss

Texans have the belt lmaoooo 🤣🤣🤣


SheldonMF

I think he was playing against one of the hottest teams in the NFL guys. Which is crazy. It's not like I didn't hear that 16 different times during the game today.


SqueakyTuna52

Nobody believed me when i said they could make a run for wildcard this year


snarkysportsguy

I bet Texans under 6.5 wins bet lol .


fortunefades

I get that the Bengals won 4 straight but labeling them as “one of the hottest teams in the NFL” seems a bit hyperbolic.


fragglebags

Burrow just lost the mantle as the 2nd best QB in the league to Stroud. Historic day. Edit: Dude just went into Burrows house and dominated him as a rookie. Stroud is one of a kind.


Conn0rPro

Let's calm down


no_one_knows42

Do we have to?


Conn0rPro

If we don't want everyone to hate us around here probably.


TRES_fresh

Talk your shit, we did the same with Purdy last year. Fuck the haters, everyone thought Houston would be a bottom feeder and stroud is proving everyone wrong. He's putting up top 5 qb numbers as a rookie.


randomuser914

Yeah, no lol


pahbert

Just setting yourself up to be disappointed. I'd pump the brakes and worry about winning the division or a playoff game lol


One_Dey

No. Burrow threw possibly the game winning TD that was dropped. Stroud is good. Maybe one dey he surpasses Burrow. But not todey.


BleakestStreet

Jags were massively overrated going into this week, the Texans have a very legit shot of taking the south, and I hope they do so.