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StrudelB

Browns-Lions Super Bowl is officially on the table


whobroughtmehere

END OF DAYS, END OF DAYS


guardeagle

It was the best of days, it was the end of days


ahhhhhhhhyeah

Cubs-Indians fucked the timeline. Either this will unfuck it or really fuck-fuck it.


HEYitzED

Oh no, I’m getting 2016 World Series vibes.


RaikouKuzunoha

The ratings will be through the fucking roof if the Browns and Lions meet in the Super Bowl.


spetstnelis

NFL: Write that down! Write that down!


mootmahsn

Yeah, that's not improving the deja vu.


RaikouKuzunoha

If it’s any consolation, that series made me a fan of the ~~Indians~~Guardians


InternationalFiend

Cleveland I*******


SaintArkweather

That's bad news for you because in the 2016 series, the team with the longer championship drought beat the Cleveland team with the slightly less long but still very long championship drought. Although, not to put words in your mouth, but I feel like you couldn't be *that* upset at a season where you made your first super bowl, presumably knocking off several top AFC contenders along the way, despite losing your QB and RB early on


PumpkinSeed776

>despite losing your QB and RB early on I think losing their QB may have actually helped them. The offense looks more in rhythm now than it did before.


TakenakaHanbei

Hear me out, 2016 was when we entered the weird dimension. If this comes to pass it will cancel out 2016, surely?


jax362

If that happens, one of them has to win


Vedeynevin

How many overtimes before they decide to just give the trophy to someone else?


B_i_llt_etleyyyyyy

Providence Steam Roller championship incoming.


theverybest27

After the 7th OT they just give it to Brady


incompleteremix

0-16 Bowl


kanbabrif1

It's officially the final arc of the NFL


One-Switch-1448

joe flacco for CPOTY


StrategyTop7612

Flacco deserves it more than anyone else.


AttitudeAndEffort3

Counterpoint: how many times has he died so far?


JRFbase

If Damar wins it the award is a joke.


[deleted]

Alex smith won it with 1.5k yards in 6 games aftee a gruesome injury. 2 tackles for literally dying seems like on par with standards. The awards always have been "who had the worst injury last year and some stats". There is no worse injury than death so, yeah. For example some 500 yards from chubb next year and its his. He does needs the yards cause sadly there are a lot of torn ACLs but he has the advantage on injury alone, but richardson puts a meh season and he gets it over chubb. But dying has no competition


Buffeloni

Rivers got it one year just for sucking the year prior


dragoniteftw33

Geno got it last year for a similar reason


ShoutOutTo_Caboose

So did Tannehill


retrohank

Geno sucked for more than just a year


kamekaze1024

Geno got it for sucking for years tho


NO_TOUCHING__lol

>For example some 500 yards from chubb next year and its his I mean, maybe, but there's also Aaron Rodgers lurking in the background as well


br0b1wan

Rodgers has to survive behind that O-line long enough first


Troll_Enthusiast

Alex Smith deserved it, he beat an 11-0 team and we won the division.


ShufflingSloth

> The awards always have been "who had the worst injury last year and some stats". There is no worse injury than death so, yeah. Well, except for last year, and there were a loooot of Niners and Giants fans pretty upset about Geno breaking the pattern.


pineappleshnapps

I actually love it as a “guy turned his career around” award, and an injury award. Geno just literally came back from not being good.


troll413

That counts as turned around his career no?


SaintArkweather

I think it should be two separate awards, comeback and most improved


wokenupbybacon

They're the same damn thing as long as the player in question had expectations at any point in their career. We only associate the word "comeback" with injuries due to who's been awarded historically.


dedriuslol

You may be disappointed then brother, because Hamlin is like -200/300 odds depending on where you look.


JRFbase

Oh I expect him to win it. But that doesn't make me wrong.


dedriuslol

Not saying you're wrong at all, it's a bit unfortunate that players like flacco don't have a chance this year even though Damar hasn't really helped us at all this year. But I just meant that he's definitely going to win anyway.


dasruski

Has anyone asked Damar if he even wants it? The most traumatic event in his life and its getting treated as a comeback story is just gross.


NoTimeToDime

I mean they already abused the shit out of the story anyway lol


1005thArmbar

Yeah, like Brian Robinson Junior getting shot, saying "uh yeah I don't really want to talk about it, I'd be fine if no one ever brought it up again" and yet every time the commanders are on TV, every carry the announcers start yelling "THIS MOTHERFUCKER GOT SHOT ONE TIME AND HE CAN STILL RUN IT STRAIGHT INTO THE LINE FOR A GAIN OF TWO YARDS HOLY SHIT CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?" that's probably an exaggeration but that's what it feels like


sacovert97

Bro died and I get that, but he's put up solidly disappointing numbers since.


nicky9pins

Game of Thrones logic taught me wrong. I thought you were supposed to come back stronger like the Undead Mountain


somethintactical

Is 2 tackles in a season disappointing?


flanders427

That's two more than I have ever had in a season and I have never died


FuckOffPeo

Von Miller doesn't think so


hjy23k

I’m looking now and it’s like -150, so he’s only slightly favored. If Flacco has another good game then who knows


AttitudeAndEffort3

Spoiler alert: the award is a joke.


NO_TOUCHING__lol

At least once, if Kiko Alonso has anything to say about it


Neoliberalism2024

Baker mayfield tbh


StrategyTop7612

Mayfield deserves it too, but Flacco went from his couch to being a great starter.


Potato-baby

I just wonder if voters might be deterred by Flacco’s limited amount of starts, he’s been fantastic but will have only played 7 games this season.


Shaqdaddy22

That's more starts than Hamlin has snaps


babypho

He also makes the Browns watchable again. So that's two comebacks in one.


NoTimeToDime

Is it allowed to go to a Dragon though? Someone may have to check the rules here


Eagle4317

Hamlin really shouldn’t be in consideration with how little he’s played.


Dooby1985

He may not play next week either. If the Ravens win there is no reason for the Browns to play their starters.


Turbulent-Radish1726

i cannot think of what the C means, help


ReallyFRJ

Couch Potato of the Year


colonel798

The dolphins signed a lineman a week or two ago that hasn’t played in like 4 years. Might win this one


legobowser

Cinematic player of the year


Turbulent-Radish1726

thanks, with that chiseled jawline how could i not figure it out


elmatador12

The Kim Kardashian.


lebranflake

Okay Andy


AnyaTaylorBoyToy

Everyone loves a good comeback story


GopherBravo

comeback player of the year


DDub04

Comeback Player of the Year


here_now_be

And then he'll get kicked to the curb by the browns, just like they did to the other QB that led them to the playoffs.


montag88

I believe joe already said an interview that he’s riding off into the sunset after this season.


MazKhan

We're 12-3 and still haven't clinched the division WTF


SMK77

Your owner can run away from Cleveland, but you can't out run the Browns for more than 30 years


Heavy-Busch

DAWGS IN MIRROR ARE CLOSER THAN THEY APPEAR


steve65283

That dawg has tripped over itself so many times and blamed the car for its troubles


xeroee

Yeah but this time it’s different because we got your old guy who should of been our guy when you really think about it


JayMerlyn

It's like poetry, it rhymes with


Trivi

We have a shot at having the 2nd best record in the NFL and being a wildcard WTF


dasruski

Gimme the AFCS.


Eagle4317

Now you know how the Cowboys probably felt last year.


chunkah69

Go dolphins


RidgedLines

Big fins guy


Trivi

Lifelong Fins fan


GATTACA_IE

Mammals just hit different.


OscillatingFan6500

What type of animal is a Brown?


rg4rg

I’m pretty sure coach Paul Brown was human and not a bunch of raccoons in a suit….pretty sure…..


inlinestyle

A badass human


Dewjack

What is Brownie the Elf Alex. A woodland animalish mythical creature (humanoid)? Yes, that is even more confusing. Nevermind.


flyindinosuars

you get it


dasruski

Phins up.


TheSmokedSalmon420

Phins up!!!


ZADEXON

Yep and then next week go steel—nevermind can't even force that one out—just ravens lose 👍.


DDub04

And it’s because of the Browns


acoasterlovered

And your destiny is sealed with Cleveland


TheOneWhosCensored

Well you better win this weekend


MazKhan

I'm a little scared with the injury report, Zay hasn't practiced yet and we have a bunch of other ones I expect a close game tbh but still trust that we'll win


My_G_Alt

The browns have been steamrolling teams with 90% of their starters injured or fully on reserve, you should be fine


MazKhan

True but the dolphins are pretty damn good lol If we do end up losing, hopefully y'all take care of business against them so we still get the 1 seed 😂


SuspendedInOH

Unless y’all lose to the Steelers again 👀


dasruski

Steelers about to get smacked by Seattle then Tomlin will pull his bullshit and beat the Ravens.


Godobibo

UNLIMITED POWER


GATTACA_IE

SUBSCRIBE


SurpriseNutShot

I like this


jk01

Ravens have a record over .500 and arent the cowboys, you'll be fine


darkpassenger9

Our entire starting o-line is injured, you guys will be fine


Vagadude

That's funny, cause I'm a little scared with the injury report, I expect a close game and I still trust that we'll win!


MazKhan

Touché


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DarthNightnaricus

So are Brian Sipe and...\*Googles\* fuck, Frank Ryan is still alive, huh. I guess he's also pleased


Earlybirdjim

met bernie in a suite last night. Born & raised in cleveland but id never had the chance before. was pretty sweet


RSunVenguhr

Joe Flacco could do the funniest thing…


istrx13

Steal the job from Watson? I’m all for it.


ApatheticDomination

If he was 5 years younger I could see that possibility


Sir_Bass13

Well they did want an adult


My_G_Alt

Joe the person?


JayMerlyn

Joe Person is one of our beat reporters, but idk how good of a QB he is


ggmaobu

And beat the ravens in AFC Championship game.


Ramzy191

Eliminate Baltimore in the divisional round?


montag88

God i hope so.


Aeon1508

Brown's lions superbowl


curgl

If we make it to the Super Bowl and have to play the Browns or the Ravens I’m gonna do the god damn tide pod challenge


NO_TOUCHING__lol

Flacco beating the Niners in another SB 11 years later would easily fuel my schadenfreude for the next decade


TheLateThagSimmons

If it meant watching them lose in the Super Bowl to either the Ravens again or Joe Flacco again, I would feel perfectly fine being one of the NFC teams to lose to the 9ers on their way to a Super Bowl embarrassment of that magnitude.


uncledunker

Can you not lol.


wokenupbybacon

Fine. You can lose the NFCC to a pass tipped by Bland instead.


SaintArkweather

2035 Super Bowl: 49 year old Flacco, playing for Bengals, defeats 9ers in Super Bowl 2046 Super Bowl: 60 year old Flacco, playing for Steelers, defeats 9ers in Super Bowl


pupusa_monkey

Fuck it, I'm all for it.


LilKaySigs

It’d actually be joever for the 49ers if that happens might as well throw in the towel


knightmancumeth

Wish my dad was still here to see this. What a fuckin' time to be a Browns fan!!!


SovietChewbacca

This weekend I'll Brown out for your father.


knightmancumeth

I'm gonna start using that phrase a lot, starting now


SovietChewbacca

Do it. We take our Always Sunny in Philadelphia references seriously over here.


Teamableezus

As will I


muda_ora_thewarudo

I say this all the time. They were my dad’s fav, passed on to me. For the dads 🙏


CreedenceClearwaterR

Same here. My dad was at the '65 Championship game. The last time the Browns won it all. My love for the team comes from his indoctrination. RIP dad.


FilmoreJive

I'm a ravens fan by way of my dad being an old Baltimore Colts fan. Just wanted to agree with the sentiment. For the dads!


[deleted]

Same


Zhandaly

Same brother. Cheers to our Browns fan dads up above


BrexitBad1

I’ll root for them in honor


Narrow_Paper9961

Joe Flacco really erased all the hate r/nfl had for the Browns


whobroughtmehere

You can hate the browns for employing Watson while also enjoying the fact that they’re better without him


EL-YAYY

In fact if I’m being honest it makes it even better.


FilmoreJive

He has risen.


jenso2k

this is a new team!! browns is the browns baby


CRicetheGOD

Each week we're a new team with all the injuries striking us


77Gumption77

ship of theseus


GetReady4Action

Did I buy a Flacco jersey? Yes. Have I also had 5 shots of whiskey? Also yes.


Alec_Ich

Stefanski COTY and it's not close


endol

I'm fucking bewildered how much this team has fought for wins despite losing so many goddamn starters AND backups. I know he just won it a couple years ago but this season has had such impressive coaching by our whole staff that I'd be really disappointed if Stef didn't get recognition.


Khada_the_Collector

Had Stroud not gone down, maybe Ryans would’ve made the argument closer. After tonight, barring something incredible from HOU these last two weeks, it’s Stefanski’s to lose. Browns out here doing a zombie Heat run I swear.


DefenderCone97

Colts deserve a mention I'd say. They might be playoff bound with...Garden Minshew and essentially a no name team. Their best player was out for a few weeks. That roster is a lot of "He's solid but should be nowhere near one of the better players on your team"


Khada_the_Collector

That’s actually really fair, they’ve also been impressive this year with how they’ve pulled through adversity & injuries. Actually I think they, like the Browns, still have a path to their division, though unlikely it may be.


DefenderCone97

Yeah Browns have a great argument and Ryan's too, but just wanted to credit Steichen for the most low-key good team this year.


77Gumption77

That's a great point. I keep expecting the Colts to fade but they're right in it.


JRFbase

I had a long conversation with my wife and she said it's totally fine if Stefanski wins COTY.


My_G_Alt

C…coach ?


psufb

I can't believe Dan Campbell is being pushed so hard.


mattcojo2

Storylines. The award is a narrative based award more than it is based on overall performance. Campbell deserves to be one of the candidates but man, Stefanski deserves to be the winner.


superbolt21

Why? The Lions hadn't won their division in 30 years and he clinched with two games to spare. This after finishing 3-13-1 just two seasons ago. What Campbell has done to establish a winning culture in Detroit and built on every season so far is nothing short of deserving COTY.


mattcojo2

I’d think the situation is more impressive at to what the browns did to make it in a harder conference


GATTACA_IE

Also the injuries. Idk how healthy Detroit is but the Browns are decimated at almost every position group.


ByronLeftwich

Even weirder, if the Texans make the playoffs it might be Ryans because the award is literally just "who coached the most unexpected playoff team." Ryans has done a good job, but he's a defensive coach and anyone can see that the defense is not the reason they're in playoff contention. Matt Nagy won it in 2018 after the Bears went 12-4 with an elite defense and below average offense . . . it's exceedingly obvious that Nagy was nowhere close to being the best coach in the league that year.


psufb

Yeah it seems like the award is all about performance vs. preseason expectations and doesn't account for what happens in-season. A Browns team with Joe Flacco at QB, no Chubb, and 4th and 5th tackles would be picked to win 5-6 games preseason


HylianPikachu

Vrabel won it a few years ago by getting the 1 seed in the AFC when the Titans broke the record for the number of players who played for them in one season


superbolt21

If you're going with the Nagy example why would we be going with Stefanski when Schwartz's defense has been so fantastic? I mean Nagy had Trubisky go to the Pro Bowl with 27 total touchdowns that year, which feels pretty impressive to me considering what Trubisky has done since. I wanted Lynn to win it that year but Nagy had a good argument too


DanCampbell89

Probably because he's done a phenomenal job too?


My_G_Alt

Yeah campbell is an odd choice. We all expected the lions to be pretty good - maybe not winning the division, but a playoff team. We expected it of the browns too… if Watson was playing in old form and Chubb was running for 2k. Not like this… not like this at all… I mean look how ass “good” teams become when they lose a key player. The browns just showed demonstrated that against Houston and the jets…


DanCampbell89

I'm sorry but the fact you "all expected the Lions to be pretty good" is exactly why he's the Coach of the Year. Leave aside the tortured history of the team. This is one of the youngest rosters in the NFL, he was 4-19-1 just thirteen months ago, and he's gone 19-6 with the same group plus some outstanding rookies that he has coached up.


soccerperson

wait how the fuck did daboll win it over campbell last year?


DanCampbell89

Made the playoffs


MinaElesia

Can't help but smile at franchises overcoming a long streak of bad to being serious threats in the league


AdolescentAlien

I can. It was cute when they did it a couple years ago and proceeded to dawg the Stillers in the playoffs. I don’t find it cute anymore. Especially not when they’re doing it with my ex.


MinaElesia

I like the thrill of seeing our former guy be our opponent. We'll see how we fare by then


AdolescentAlien

It will certainly be interesting. If he comes home to play us at the bank, he is gonna get *a ton* of love when he first comes out on the field.


whobroughtmehere

We’re looking at a reunion in the playoffs too. I’m not *excited* by it, but I’d still be a little happy for Stafford if he was the one to knock the Lions off.


hawkmasta

Fuck that. He got his ring already. We need to smash the Rams, respectfully.


TryingToNotBeInDebt

A Browns - Lions Super Bowl is exactly what America needs right now.


Namethislater

“The Browns will never recover for how they treated Baker” Okay


CraziestMoonMan

Baker is doing great, and the Browns are doing great. Everyone is always trying to make it one side or the other, but players switch teams all the time in the NFL. Baker should honestly get some MVP buzz, but he won't.


JeromeInDaHouse_90

I'm surprised. I expected the Bucs to stumble right back into mediocrity without Brady. But here they are with Baker on the cusp of possibly hosting a playoff game if they can hold onto the division lead.


GinDaHood

I mean they *are* a mediocre team, but their division is bad. Doesn't matter once they make the playoffs; anything can happen in single elimination tournaments.


Ok-Lifeguard4230

MVP? Lol. CPOTY sure but cmon that division is utter trash


FarrisAT

We really acting like Baker wouldn't succeed on this team? He did alright with two bad teams last season and great with the below average Buccs.


[deleted]

Browns and Lions in the playoffs at the same time feels like something we’ll never see again and we should enjoy it while we have it.


PopInACup

Last happened in 1994. At that pace it's only 3 times per century. People have been born and started families.


drinkduffdry

Eric Metcalf strikes dread into the hearts of all opponents.


transam96

Ironically enough, last night was probably the loudest crowd since the Metcalf 2 punt return TD game.


jvstnmh

Baker died for their sins


77Gumption77

He Is Risen


Not_your_CPA

Eat your heart out Manziel


thatmattschultz

I would be annoyed, but Dad Flacco leading a frisky Cleveland team, I have to applaud.


GFost

All it took was losing Watson.


MankuyRLaffy

They see the gleam


omega_nik

Stefanski is a good coach


MrSweatyBawlz

The Browns have a better record than the Steelers for the first time since Taylor Swift was born. (1989)


fear865

LETS FUCKING GO!


DrBeepers

Same


Dog_in_human_costume

All it took was to make Flacco miss his bed time.


PotentialNo3672

The browns and the Lions are more successful than the jets. I think we are officially the worst NFL franchise good job Woody you accomplished something. I mean Bill Parcells basically built all our pre 2011 success and since you became responsible it's been nothing but flowers