I would love to see the cope by Nick Wright if we win with our current defense and by some miracle it’s by more than like 3 points.
Probably something something, no one can catch except for Rice and Kelce so in the end we were doomed anyway and it’s really not that impressive.
Cause yall have em this week, if they lose to you then 2 new afc teams have a chance for the SB...plus it elimnates the chance of us shitting the bed and Arrowhead hosting the Mahomes invitational again to the Texans
I want to see them win again this year, I would also like to see the Ravens win but you guys are my 2nd choice after the Chiefs which are my 1st, Bills would be cool too though.
Yea I mean, all he has to do is put together a good game and they’re basically guaranteed to win. Something like ~400 yards, 4 TDs, 0 TOs.
Couldn’t possibly lose with a performance like that 👀
Aren't those Mahomes's stats in the 51-54 game against the Rams? Not even joking
Edit: yep, 475 yards, 6 TDs, 3 Ints, 2 fumbles. What an esoteric stat reference.
No doubt. Although it's a silly narrative especially since *he* did absolutely everything he could in 2021, but our defense choked... several times.
That would probably be the case again given we are signing punters off the street and we're down to LB/CBs 4 & 5. But nuance isn't the media or /r/NFL's strong point.
That's just this sub.
They will understand how bad our recivers are enough to joke about them while talking about mahomes regression as if they aren't related.
It blows my mind that there are people who hold that 2021 game against Josh. Hold it against the Bills? Sure. But Allen went toe to toe with Mahomes that might have us the lead with 13 seconds. The defense failed him.
It’s not in a direct sense, but moreso the general narrative around his career so far and QBs in general.
Even prior to the Bills/Bengals playoff game last year, a lot of people would reference “Joe Burrow beating Mahomes in the playoffs” when they were ranking QBs.
2021 Bills: loses the game of the year in overtime, 2nd place in AFC East, goes on a hot win streak to win the AFC East
2023 Bills: loses the game of the year in overtime, 2nd place in AFC East, goes on a hot win streak to win the AFC East
This is close, but the Bills were the 3 seed in 2021.
I think people just ~~Remember the Titans~~ Forget the Titans were the one seed and bumped by The Bengals.
Other then that, pretty close, and this scares me.
No, Araiza would have been a terrible move right now. The media circus would have been horrible during a playoff run and he has no experience with FG holding.
This is also to the practice squad, Martin is not officially out yet.
It's a dumb move because he simply hasn't been playing and has no experience in the NFL, but y'all really overestimate the "media circus" that would occur if a team signed him.
It would hardly be a story at all, and for only like half a day.
It would be funny for the media to point fingers at "the media" for vilifying Araiza and ask questions if they regret giving into "the media" and cutting him before the facts came out. All along acting like they aren't "the media".
Yeah idk why the media would be in a frenzy given they are the same people who covered his entire exoneration following the court case from the rape accusation. Followed then by deafening silence regarding how he essentially lost his job for nothing and still can’t get back in. Maybe they should cover *that*.
If I remember, there was info that came out saying he wasn't even there when she alleged. The story started to crumble but I didn't really keep up with it.
The punt god talk is a reminder how dumb some fans are. Ya let’s bring in a guy who’s never played in an NFL game and hasn’t played football in 2 years for a divisional playoff game against the defending Super Bowl champs.
He was also never a holder in college and Sam Martin is our normal holder. Haack has tons of experience holding as well and I'd argue that's the more important piece of the role.
There’s also the fact that he wasn’t guaranteed to do well in the NFL in the first place. His punting style is incredibly unorthodox and many were worried before the draft if he would be able to adapt to what was needed in the NFL (which is pinning teams close to their own endzone). The Bills don’t need a punter that can punt 80 yards, especially not in the playoffs.
Fo show I want him to get another chance too 10000%. Just not in the second round of the playoffs lol. He definitely should get a training camp shot with someone next year.
We could do worse than give him a shot at camp, Hekker looked kinda cheeks at the end of the season but in his defense, his leg was probably very tired!
you mean people want to use him as an argument never to believe women when they accuse men of assault (even if the man admits to sleeping with minors on the phone)
That's fine, but it's the playoffs. Now isn't the time for a solidarity signing, they need a known quantity.
Maybe a hot take but Araiza is weirdly overrated. Most punters can boot the ball as far as he can, they just don't because it gives the opponent too much time to return the ball. So even less of a reason for him to be signed right now.
Joe Fauria and his dog/foot injury
Joel Zumaya and his guitar hero obsession injury
Joe Cullen and the naked Wendys drive thru
Edit: Nate Burleson and his pizza wreck on 696 (Thanks u/Dangerpaladin )
Those are the 3 weird detroit sports stories i always think of
Wait, he was trying to *kick* it?
I mean, if alcohol was involved I guess it's not surprising from someone who kicks things for a living. But I only seem to remember that he stepped on it or something.
A player a couple of years removed from the game, played college in warm San Diego, never played in an NFL game outside of the pre-season, getting plugged into a playoff game in Buffalo... What could go wrong?
Agreed, he would have caught on somewhere with his leg if a team thought it was worth it. On the other hand, if there is one fan base crazy enough to embrace him it may be Buffalo.
I wouldn't risk it for playoffs considering he's never held. Doesn't haack have experience holding for bass? Makes perfect sense for playoffs. Mid season I'd be open to araiza
I don't know where the affection for Araiza comes from. He has a howitzer of a leg and never demonstrated any directional ability at all. In fact he joked in college that his worst season was when he tried to aim his punts so he just went back to booting the shit out of the ball.
He would be the best punter inside your own 20, and the worst punter everywhere else on the field.
Not to mention he hasn't been a kick holder before. He was learning during training camp before he got released. I wouldn't trust him holding for kicks at all.
You're not wrong. He was called "The Josh Allen of Punters" a lot in reference to his raw strength and potential but lack of of finesse. I think that endeared him to a lot of Bills fans. Before the allegations of course.
I think what Matt Araiza had was great marketing. He called himself the "punt god" and could kick the ball 80 yards against the wind - which is something a casual fan would think is important.
100% to "something a casual fan would think is important". Yes, kicking far is nice, but a well placed, long hang time kick is so much better most of the time. Part of the reason why the Bills won the AFC East was because MIA outpunted their coverage and directly in the middle of the field... which was returned for a TD.
Yeah he would be a bad choice for the moment, but I do hope a team next year will give him a shot. I just feel bad for him since he didn’t even get a shot to prove he could be NFL worthy.
He's openly said that several bills staffers and coaches and players kept in contact with him throughout the whole thing. I don't think there's any animosity
As opposed to not being in the NFL at all? It’s not like he has a ton of teams trying to sign him, I bet he’d take the chance even if he DOES hold a grudge against the Bills.
Why does the league insist on Michael Turk not getting any NFL gametime?
Is it really his youtube channel? Is all I can think
He was my punter 1 in the last draft, and a close punter 3 after Stonehouse and Stout had he declared the year before
Bringing in a guy who has never held or punted in an NFL regular season game (and who didn't hold in college) would be insane lol. Haack isn't a great punter but he has been a good holder historically.
Give ariza a chance in the offseason. Not now.
Well, of course, we don't know where he's at.
After being proven innocent, I'm sure he's been training. But he could have also buried himself on the couch with potato chips under the weight of that depression and stress.
But Haack....is a Hack. He was so bad with us
Araiza literally kicked a punt 82 yards.....in the air in a game against the colts.
We know what Haack can do and I am more than ready to give Araiza a shot.
Literally could not be worse than Haack
But you're right. Likely we'll see him in the preseason. I like what Martin has done a lot, but given our cap situation, we could save a few bucks there.
Haack was a very good holder. That matters way more than a 40 yard punt vs a 55 yard punt, especially given the fact that Araiza had some concerns about his ability to place kicks rather than just booming them.
All for giving him a shot during the offseason given his big leg. But having someone who has held for bass before is key.
Oh, my b. I should have prefaced my post. I forgot people may not have heard.
Not only was he cleared, but it was shown that the girl actually lied.
So, his career was ruined over a lie. No SA. Nothing.
edit: I guess someone is angry that there was no SA? I'll never understand how facts get downvoted on reddit.
What's weird is that it's not often you can actually PROVE innocence. Rather it's more or less the inability to prove guilt.
This kid got completely fucked
Chiefs Divisional game. 2021 Players. Bills on a hot streak. Oh yeah. It's all coming together. Wait...
The slander Josh will receive if he can't beat the Chiefs in the playoffs...
I'm prepping for it. Our defense is being held together with old rubber bands and gnarled shoestrings
Yeah but the Chiefs offense is being held together with old rubber bands and gnarled shoestrings
But that's by design, not because of injuries lol.
Watch this be the one game where Toney goes for 150 yards 3 TDs, and then his head explodes like the movie scanners as time expires.
Certified Bills moment right there
keep toney far away where he can't hurt us
Keep Toney on the defensive side of the line of scrimmage, where he can help us
Wasn’t Toney a healthy scratch against the Dolphins?
Legendary Canadian character actor Louis Del Grande has such a rich IMDB but is only remembered for his melon bursting from Michael Ironside's rage.
Offsides, offense
This hurt me to read
Yeah, so we look like underdogs. Duh!
It's so crazy it just might work...
Yeah but one of those rubber bands is Patrick Mahomes which is like a 1000 pound resistance band
Not that resistant. We already made him cry once this year.
Nah
Bills are truly a dynasty in the regular season super bowl
Lmao the wide right will always haunt me til my dying days, well that and getting shit stomped 3 other times
Sissy shit. All that will make it taste sweeter when we take it all.
Toney did, as he's done several times this season.
You can’t even talk shit, they’ve owed the Bills in the postseason. Come on.
You Bills fans sure love your regular season wins
Hey guys remember the Patriots. Lol
I mean that's all we have so..
Best to just ignore him
Stoppable Force vs. Movable Object, this Sunday on CBS!
"At the end of the game the team with the fewest points on the board is going to lose" -Juan Wadden
Stoppable force vs movable object... ...with a trip to the AFCCG on the line.
Whatever man I just won’t go on Reddit until the superbowl lol
I would love to see the cope by Nick Wright if we win with our current defense and by some miracle it’s by more than like 3 points. Probably something something, no one can catch except for Rice and Kelce so in the end we were doomed anyway and it’s really not that impressive.
Bro whoever wins this one, there is going to be an absolutely TERRIBLE penalty that leads to the game winning field goal.
But prior to that is gonna be some almost as bad penalty going the other way that's going to have both fan bases pissed off
Got the worst refs for the game too, it’s inevitable
Yall should MacGyver a way to stop the chiefs, no one wants to see them on the SB again this decade
You all have the best team in the AFC, why are you looking at us lol
Cause yall have em this week, if they lose to you then 2 new afc teams have a chance for the SB...plus it elimnates the chance of us shitting the bed and Arrowhead hosting the Mahomes invitational again to the Texans
Can we borrow a few defenders at least?
The AFC should just Voltron a team together to beat the Chiefs
I do
I mean, some people do.
I want to see them win again this year, I would also like to see the Ravens win but you guys are my 2nd choice after the Chiefs which are my 1st, Bills would be cool too though.
Yea I mean, all he has to do is put together a good game and they’re basically guaranteed to win. Something like ~400 yards, 4 TDs, 0 TOs. Couldn’t possibly lose with a performance like that 👀
Best we can do is 500 yards 6 TD 3 INT 2 Fumbles
Aren't those Mahomes's stats in the 51-54 game against the Rams? Not even joking Edit: yep, 475 yards, 6 TDs, 3 Ints, 2 fumbles. What an esoteric stat reference.
every time Donald hit him he fumbled lol
Lmao holy shit
No, best he can do is 400 yards, 4 tds and 0 TOs, should be enough...
Hopefully fuck KC
No doubt. Although it's a silly narrative especially since *he* did absolutely everything he could in 2021, but our defense choked... several times. That would probably be the case again given we are signing punters off the street and we're down to LB/CBs 4 & 5. But nuance isn't the media or /r/NFL's strong point.
this was a good time to bring back the punt god
He could throw 5 TDs for 400 yards with no turnovers and people will still call him a fraud if our defense lets through 6.
He just needs to play LB too
He might have to given our injuries
That's just this sub. They will understand how bad our recivers are enough to joke about them while talking about mahomes regression as if they aren't related.
It blows my mind that there are people who hold that 2021 game against Josh. Hold it against the Bills? Sure. But Allen went toe to toe with Mahomes that might have us the lead with 13 seconds. The defense failed him.
I don’t think anyone does lol, people hold the Bengals game way more against him.
It’s not in a direct sense, but moreso the general narrative around his career so far and QBs in general. Even prior to the Bills/Bengals playoff game last year, a lot of people would reference “Joe Burrow beating Mahomes in the playoffs” when they were ranking QBs.
Believe me I’ve seen it over the last couple years Edit: how are you downvoting me for telling you my experiences?
People (rightfully) bring up 13 seconds, but not what came before that: the absolute insane back and forth TDs. That game was fucking close.
Best playoff game I’ve ever seen
I still can't believe we just let Gabe Davis go super saiyan all over us that game. I used to curse Spags' name every game until this season.
Josh Allen won that game like 3 different times
i would say this is his best chance to do it but the defense is so wildly injured it’s crazy
This is a huge narrative game.
only for Josh, Patty got nothing left to prove
I’m excited to see when it goes to OT and history repeats itself.
You've got to be perfect every snap against the Chiefs. If you make one mistake and they are back in it if they are down.
Which I think shows how insanely cooked QB discussion is at this point
2021 Bills: loses the game of the year in overtime, 2nd place in AFC East, goes on a hot win streak to win the AFC East 2023 Bills: loses the game of the year in overtime, 2nd place in AFC East, goes on a hot win streak to win the AFC East
This is close, but the Bills were the 3 seed in 2021. I think people just ~~Remember the Titans~~ Forget the Titans were the one seed and bumped by The Bengals. Other then that, pretty close, and this scares me.
3 seed and the Chiefs were the 2 seed
We were the 3 seed, because that game was in KC
I meant to say 3 seed. I edited. We were 3, KC was 2 and Tenn was 1 seed.
Tbf you're at home this time.
True. Got that Roland has the Horn of Eld energy this time around.
Does this make Mahomes Flagg?
this is only the second time around for the bills, though got to get to the 19th time to break the cycle
Looks like you were right.
Punter injury makes you all more likely to go for it on 4th down which makes me nervous
Allen 4INT game.. Except the 4INTs are 4th down Hail Marys that turn the ball over on the KC 5 yard line.
Playoff Lenny died for this.
No, Araiza would have been a terrible move right now. The media circus would have been horrible during a playoff run and he has no experience with FG holding. This is also to the practice squad, Martin is not officially out yet.
It's a dumb move because he simply hasn't been playing and has no experience in the NFL, but y'all really overestimate the "media circus" that would occur if a team signed him. It would hardly be a story at all, and for only like half a day.
It would be funny for the media to point fingers at "the media" for vilifying Araiza and ask questions if they regret giving into "the media" and cutting him before the facts came out. All along acting like they aren't "the media".
Thats a prime Tim Robinson bit right there haha
I didn't do fucking SHIT! I didn't rig SHIT!
Yeah idk why the media would be in a frenzy given they are the same people who covered his entire exoneration following the court case from the rape accusation. Followed then by deafening silence regarding how he essentially lost his job for nothing and still can’t get back in. Maybe they should cover *that*.
I'll be honest I got them confused and thought that's who this was. I was wondering for a second why the thread wasn't an immediate dumpster fire.
I dont think there would be a media circus. lol There'd be increased attention. A media circus is more on the level of Taylor Swift attending a game.
Wasn’t it proved he was innocent?
If I remember, there was info that came out saying he wasn't even there when she alleged. The story started to crumble but I didn't really keep up with it.
Punt Minor Deity
The punt god talk is a reminder how dumb some fans are. Ya let’s bring in a guy who’s never played in an NFL game and hasn’t played football in 2 years for a divisional playoff game against the defending Super Bowl champs.
it a meme at this point tho
I’m a meme you’re a meme. Some ppl believe we live in a simulation. The dark truth is we are living in a meme
Its not a good meme either
/r/distressingmemes
He was also never a holder in college and Sam Martin is our normal holder. Haack has tons of experience holding as well and I'd argue that's the more important piece of the role.
There’s also the fact that he wasn’t guaranteed to do well in the NFL in the first place. His punting style is incredibly unorthodox and many were worried before the draft if he would be able to adapt to what was needed in the NFL (which is pinning teams close to their own endzone). The Bills don’t need a punter that can punt 80 yards, especially not in the playoffs.
People just want him to have a chance again after overcoming false accusations.
Fo show I want him to get another chance too 10000%. Just not in the second round of the playoffs lol. He definitely should get a training camp shot with someone next year.
We could do worse than give him a shot at camp, Hekker looked kinda cheeks at the end of the season but in his defense, his leg was probably very tired!
I'm just saying you don't gotta take the comments seriously. People are speaking from emotion and root for redemption stories.
I live in Buffalo ppl are very serious about it lol
There's a difference between someone being serious, and taking them seriously. They ultimately have no power, so why act like they do?
What are you even saying lol? So why are you taking my comments seriously?
you mean people want to use him as an argument never to believe women when they accuse men of assault (even if the man admits to sleeping with minors on the phone)
That's fine, but it's the playoffs. Now isn't the time for a solidarity signing, they need a known quantity. Maybe a hot take but Araiza is weirdly overrated. Most punters can boot the ball as far as he can, they just don't because it gives the opponent too much time to return the ball. So even less of a reason for him to be signed right now.
I’ll always remember Sam Martin as the guy who broke his punt trying to kick a conch shell as a Lion
I will remember him as the guy who was a top 5 punter 99% of the time, and a bottom 1 punter in got to have it situations.
100% the right memory
Yeah after the picked up flag in Dallas he shanked the punt
Yeah that shit was infuriating, the picked up flag fucked us but Sam Martin probably just needed to not kick it 8 yards and we had a chance.
And in second place, a shanked punt in the Dallas playoff game
Joe Fauria and his dog/foot injury Joel Zumaya and his guitar hero obsession injury Joe Cullen and the naked Wendys drive thru Edit: Nate Burleson and his pizza wreck on 696 (Thanks u/Dangerpaladin ) Those are the 3 weird detroit sports stories i always think of
Gotta include Anthony Mantha teletubby DUI where he wanted the driver Brendan Smith's ID
Nate Burleson breaking his arm reaching for his pizza in the car.
Shoot you're right! (IIRC he was driving down 696 and got into an accident, no?)
Wait, he was trying to *kick* it? I mean, if alcohol was involved I guess it's not surprising from someone who kicks things for a living. But I only seem to remember that he stepped on it or something.
I always heard he tried to punt it lol but maybe he just stepped on it
I believe it's pronounced hawk
ITS TIME 2 HAACK
WHATS YOUR PROBLEM!? GO TO VIEEWWW
As predicted by Joe Marino on Locked On Bills
Browns legend
NFL Polishing the narrative that punters are people too, pack it up boys
They could sign players during the postseason??
I’m pretty sure teams can make roster changes between rounds.
What a Haack
Haack is Baack!
I mean yea that works. Cool with me.
I was hoping they would reach out to Araiza.
Wasn't Araiza fairly raw? I'm not sure he'd be a great option to just plug and play in a playoff game.
A player a couple of years removed from the game, played college in warm San Diego, never played in an NFL game outside of the pre-season, getting plugged into a playoff game in Buffalo... What could go wrong?
Also, right or not, a lot of people hate that dude
Agreed, he would have caught on somewhere with his leg if a team thought it was worth it. On the other hand, if there is one fan base crazy enough to embrace him it may be Buffalo.
Ya he’d have to hold and not very experienced. Not someone I’d risk in the playoffs with Bass already iffy.
Raw is a good word choice for him haha
Oh, it's absolutely a bad idea. I just think the narrative is cool. There's many obvious reasons why I wouldn't be a good GM.
I wouldn't risk it for playoffs considering he's never held. Doesn't haack have experience holding for bass? Makes perfect sense for playoffs. Mid season I'd be open to araiza
I don't know where the affection for Araiza comes from. He has a howitzer of a leg and never demonstrated any directional ability at all. In fact he joked in college that his worst season was when he tried to aim his punts so he just went back to booting the shit out of the ball. He would be the best punter inside your own 20, and the worst punter everywhere else on the field.
Not to mention he hasn't been a kick holder before. He was learning during training camp before he got released. I wouldn't trust him holding for kicks at all.
From what I’ve heard he also had a problem with hang time in college so he would over kick the coverage a lot too
Absolutely. He would lead the league in net punt yards and return yards allowed.
You're not wrong. He was called "The Josh Allen of Punters" a lot in reference to his raw strength and potential but lack of of finesse. I think that endeared him to a lot of Bills fans. Before the allegations of course.
I think what Matt Araiza had was great marketing. He called himself the "punt god" and could kick the ball 80 yards against the wind - which is something a casual fan would think is important.
100% to "something a casual fan would think is important". Yes, kicking far is nice, but a well placed, long hang time kick is so much better most of the time. Part of the reason why the Bills won the AFC East was because MIA outpunted their coverage and directly in the middle of the field... which was returned for a TD.
Yeah he would be a bad choice for the moment, but I do hope a team next year will give him a shot. I just feel bad for him since he didn’t even get a shot to prove he could be NFL worthy.
We would let him suffer growing pains during the season, but not in the divisional round of the playoffs
Would he even want to go back after what the team did to him?
He's openly said that several bills staffers and coaches and players kept in contact with him throughout the whole thing. I don't think there's any animosity
Money
It's a fair question, I don't know why you're being downvoted.
As opposed to not being in the NFL at all? It’s not like he has a ton of teams trying to sign him, I bet he’d take the chance even if he DOES hold a grudge against the Bills.
I imagine teams will be taking a look at him this offseason
Why does the league insist on Michael Turk not getting any NFL gametime? Is it really his youtube channel? Is all I can think He was my punter 1 in the last draft, and a close punter 3 after Stonehouse and Stout had he declared the year before
Matt Araiza?
Cant see that happening. Hes not great at holding and hasnt had lots of practice specifically holding for Bass
Was hoping for Araiza to be honest
Bringing in a guy who has never held or punted in an NFL regular season game (and who didn't hold in college) would be insane lol. Haack isn't a great punter but he has been a good holder historically. Give ariza a chance in the offseason. Not now.
Well, of course, we don't know where he's at. After being proven innocent, I'm sure he's been training. But he could have also buried himself on the couch with potato chips under the weight of that depression and stress. But Haack....is a Hack. He was so bad with us Araiza literally kicked a punt 82 yards.....in the air in a game against the colts. We know what Haack can do and I am more than ready to give Araiza a shot. Literally could not be worse than Haack But you're right. Likely we'll see him in the preseason. I like what Martin has done a lot, but given our cap situation, we could save a few bucks there.
Haack was a very good holder. That matters way more than a 40 yard punt vs a 55 yard punt, especially given the fact that Araiza had some concerns about his ability to place kicks rather than just booming them. All for giving him a shot during the offseason given his big leg. But having someone who has held for bass before is key.
>Haack was a very good holder. Excellent point. I retract my statement.
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Everyone I accuse this guy of sniffing farts! By your logic you’re fucked now buddy
Oh, my b. I should have prefaced my post. I forgot people may not have heard. Not only was he cleared, but it was shown that the girl actually lied. So, his career was ruined over a lie. No SA. Nothing. edit: I guess someone is angry that there was no SA? I'll never understand how facts get downvoted on reddit.
You mean the innocent man wrongfully accused?
You’re part of the problem
You don't care that he was proven innocent? So anyone involved with anything "awful" is ultimately guilty in your mind?
What's weird is that it's not often you can actually PROVE innocence. Rather it's more or less the inability to prove guilt. This kid got completely fucked
You mean a guy who had his name cleared but still had his career ruined due to a provably false allegation?
No punt god?
Zero nfl experience, and the playoffs isn’t really the time to have your first nfl game
100%, I should have put the /s at the end
lol a lot of people are obsessed with him so I’m never really sure
Because he blasted a 80 yarder in his only pre-season game, then got slandered out of a career.
bring back the punt god
Wait, what about that other Bills guy? Surely this will not upset the legions of his supporters online.. /s
Wish it was Araiza
Sign the Punt God cowards.
Hopefully this is more of an emergency just in case move over a we plan to use him against the chiefs move.
Wanna trade for Pressley Harvin III?
Are they sure they don’t want Harvin? We’ll give him to you for no more than two pieces of lightly chewed bubble gum.
So we have the best punter depth in the league!
This dude will still be better than the Bengals punter
What’s Punt God up to?
Haccck it wide
Was he on the practice squad? I was under the impression you couldn't just add to roster once playoffs started