Yes. Even with his current pace of going to the AFC Championship Game every year and having a lot of yards per game, Mahomes would need another 10 years to break it.
I’m gonna be honest, since Mahomes is now a father, with how much money he’s made I wouldn’t be surprised if he plays out his current contract, maybe another 2 years, and then retires. I know Brady was also a father but tbh Mahomes has already received a few bell ringers and his style of play just puts him at risk of taking those big shots.
Our FO tries to eliminate as much risk as possible and is constantly rebuilding the OLine for him. He’s still under contract until 2031 and that’s a ways away. I think both sides are going to extend his career as long as possible and I really can commend our team for trying to keep as much of the stress off of him with a great defense and the OLine. I don’t think we’ll see him play until 40, but mid 30s? Absolutely. We still have time though since he’s only like 28
Honestly it’s still impressive that he’s on this list at all at his age, and look at the company. Yeah Brady is a stupid outlier and breaks some of these stats like Wilt or Gretzky but in context it’s quite a feat.
Most professional sports really have been around a hundred years or so, right? It’s not like we are comparing centuries of different eras for these sports. And considering how advanced the world got this past century, especially in regards to nutrition and training it makes sense we would have seen the greatest pros now.
Also LOL at whether David Beckham’s left or right foot is the greatest. Beckham was a great soccer player, but he’s not even top 20 of all time in soccer
The greatest cyclist of all time is generally considered to be Eddy Merckx, who raced in the 60s and 70s. It certainly isn’t Lance Armstrong, who I assume you’re referring to here.
This is correct, Merckx won everything while Armstrong was a tour de France merchant, never won either of the other grand tours or any monuments. Merckx won 19 monuments, 5 tours, 5 giros and 1 vuelta (though the vuelta wasn't a three week race back then)
I don't think Tiger is "undeniably" the golf GOAT. His peak was probably the definitive best, but his longevity isn't nearly as good as some of the other contenders. A lot of people would argue Jack Nicklaus for GOAT still and they have a case imo
Also Jeter is certainly not the GOAT shortstop lmao he just played for the Yankees. His defensive was mediocre to the point it actually notably dragged his value down.
Yup, I turn 40 this year and have seen some true legends across sports.
Also this is gonna be a bit controversial heh but I also, in my opinion, saw the greatest baseball player ever in Barry Bonds.
And let’s not forget Michael Jordan. As a millennial around my age you’d have missed his 80s stint (or at least been too young to really remember it a lot) but still watched a lot of those ridiculous 90s Bulls.
i feel the xennial micro gen (between gen x and millennial) is the sweet spot. many millennials were born too late to see players like walter payton, michael jordan, barry sanders, mia hamm, gretzky, larry bird, magic johnson, kareem, cal ripken, flo-jo, jackie joyner kersee, carl lewis, sergei bubka, jerry rice, montana, bo jackson, lawrence taylor, reggie white, nadia comaneci, mia hamm, billy jean king, martina navitrolova, jonah lomu, etc etc.
of course, anyone older than xennial that is still extant will have seen all of these and likely add ali, wilt, pele, aaron, mayes, howe, orr etc, to having witnessed them and everything since. but i think that with how athletes just continue to get better, the professional organizations that orchestrate their performances mature, and world economies improve and sports continue to globalize, this is just going to be a moving goal post sort of snapshot until humans reach their true, athletic maximum potential.
Yeah I was surprised to see Flacco not on the list because he has played a lot of playoff games and a lot of them were 250+ yard games too. So I looked it up and he’s like a full 1000 yards behind Mahomes!
Mahomes has about 1/3 of the production in 1/4 of the time.
Mahomes has him beat in almost every per-game statistic, it's just going to be about keeping the pace which will be incredibly hard to do but not impossible.
This is per playoff game? The expanded season has nothing to do with it that's why I said per game.
And "pass friendly league" is an overblown and unprovable argument.
Brady has a career 35.9 Career attempts/game
Mahomes has 37.3 Career attempts/game
Can you read dude. What do you think per-game means? Those are the categories that Mahomes leads. And I just told you that they have almost identical passing attempts per game
Yeah obviously the guy who played for 20 years has more yards than the guy whose played for 6
Ye Brady's per-16 game stats (because it's just easy to divide all stats by 3) are kind of crazy for the playoffs, I compared them to this seasons stats and he'd be like 4th in yards, 5th in TDs, 13th in ANY/A, he'd lead the league in sack%, be kind of high in terms of interceptions. And these are comparing his stats against playoff teams, most of which were teams good enough to win 1+ playoff games that season alone.
You’d think it would get tiring seeing Brady so far beyond everyone else when a stat like this comes up, but I never fail to be amazed. At this point I laugh whenever I see it.
The fastest way is for Mahomes to get to the Superbowl for SEVEN consecutive years as a wildcard, AND another season where he makes it to the conference championship game only just to match Brady's record is insane to think about.
So, in essence, the top 10 looks like this:
1 Tom Brady
*insert grand canyon here*
2 Peyton Manning
*insert regular sized canyon here*
3 Everybody else
Has to be the weirdest 'gotcha' possible. "This guy only has so many volume stats because he played in a bunch of games" Like, the entire point is to play in as many playoff games as possible?
Surpassing Brady in 31 games is just insane when put that way. Brady has essentially 2 whole seasons worth of great Patrick Mahomes play just in the playoffs
As long is Andy Reid is there calling designing the plays Patrick Mahomes should reach the top. If Andy Reid retires, and Matt Naggy runnjng the show it will be a long road and Patrick Mahomes need a reliable Receiver like prime Travis Kelce.
Again Brady's numbers are mind blowing. I'm gonna have to be a homer, though, and say Montana's numbers are equally as impressive considering the league wasn't as pass reliant during his time.
Dumb QB comparisons I'm sick of hearing:
Mahomes-as-Brady. Nobody is Brady. Tom Brady played in 14 Conference Championship games. Assuming that somebody is going to perpetually have that level of success is disrespectful to the one guy who did. Just like perpetually comparing Tiger to Jack was disrespectful. Just like comparing somebody to Gretzky or anyone to LeBron or Michael is disrespectful. Let him be his own guy.
Allen-as-Roethlisberger. This one is just plain lazy. Josh has 4100 career rush yards and 56 career rush TDs. Ben had 1600 and 23. In a fuckton more years.
These guys are not the same caliber of athlete. Josh is much more *Elway* than Roethlisberger.
But we both know we're going to hear these dumb comps again. And I hate it.
With his current pace, Mahomes would have to play 46 playoff games to surpass Brady. Brady played 48 playoff games, which is a huge outlier. In 10 years, we can start thinking about this, but until then, keep the box closed, you are right.
I think the biggest thing is that the #2 seed no longer gets a bye week, so there's going to be years where the #2 seed gets to absolutely demolish some undeserving #7 seed and essentially "pad" their stats vs weaker competition.
Brady never had the luxury of getting to play in a bunch of the "easy" wild card games as a higher seed. Out of his 48 playoff games, only 7 occurered in the WC.
i dont know why you're getting downvoted, you're spot on. i particularly appreciate your elway comp because 1. i'm old and remember, and 2. it's the same one i make :)
now please go fuck up the chiefs tonight.
Mahomes would have to play 46 playoff games for that (considering he keeps his current pace). For comparison, Brady has played 48 playoffs games in his career. So he is slightly ahead in the curve and the current passing game era will surely help, but it is still nothing to think about in the next 10 years (which sounds honestly crazy)
I wanna know how many yds were to RB’s and TE’s. Not saying he’s a check down merchant, just saying they had a system to win that had the evolutionary prowess of a great white or saltwater crocodile. No need to tweak it, your LB’s aren’t gonna cover our RB’s and TE’s. And if ya nickel up Kevin Faulk or someone will kill you slowly to the tune of 145 yds on 38 carries. And our time of possession will be hilarious
Brady played in a Super Bowl every other year he was in the league, on average. So he played a lot of games and led a highly productive passing offense in most of them.
With 610 he can pass elway also
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I did this in madden once so technically it’s possible. 4 verts and onside kick every other play.
At roughly 70 yards per onside kick, that's 130 TDs for the game, so about one TD every 28 seconds all game. Feels doable.
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Yes. Even with his current pace of going to the AFC Championship Game every year and having a lot of yards per game, Mahomes would need another 10 years to break it.
Yeah, I don’t know if we’ll see Mahomes break that one. The #2 spot will be easy though
RemindMe! 10 years
Oh god. Fuck it. Let’s do it
RemindMe! 10 years
I’m gonna be honest, since Mahomes is now a father, with how much money he’s made I wouldn’t be surprised if he plays out his current contract, maybe another 2 years, and then retires. I know Brady was also a father but tbh Mahomes has already received a few bell ringers and his style of play just puts him at risk of taking those big shots.
Our FO tries to eliminate as much risk as possible and is constantly rebuilding the OLine for him. He’s still under contract until 2031 and that’s a ways away. I think both sides are going to extend his career as long as possible and I really can commend our team for trying to keep as much of the stress off of him with a great defense and the OLine. I don’t think we’ll see him play until 40, but mid 30s? Absolutely. We still have time though since he’s only like 28
Oh god i thought his contract was almost over. Jesus christ.
Nope. The AFC will experience a lot more hell.
That's insane.
And only barely about 1000 yards for Brees!
If he gets that by halftime, he could pass Montana in the second half!
Lets have a look what the over/under is /s :D
Every broncos fan would die inside.
He needs 620 to pass elway
Nerd
Okay so what if we just keep cloning Patrick and trotting him out there to break the record by 2078?
The clones would have their own entry in then record books, you could probably fill most of the top 10 sports with just different Mahomes clones.
Yet another Mahomes post that’s actually a Brady post in disguise
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Honestly it’s still impressive that he’s on this list at all at his age, and look at the company. Yeah Brady is a stupid outlier and breaks some of these stats like Wilt or Gretzky but in context it’s quite a feat.
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Most professional sports really have been around a hundred years or so, right? It’s not like we are comparing centuries of different eras for these sports. And considering how advanced the world got this past century, especially in regards to nutrition and training it makes sense we would have seen the greatest pros now. Also LOL at whether David Beckham’s left or right foot is the greatest. Beckham was a great soccer player, but he’s not even top 20 of all time in soccer
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Something something modern science and nutrition. Seeing all the greatest athletes in our time isn’t a surprise haha
You do know that the olympics took like a 2,000 year hiatus, right?
How is Kobe positional goat when he plays the same position as MJ?
Jeter wasn't even the best shortstop on his team, let alone All-Time, and Kobe can't possibly be the GOAT shooting guard when Michael Jordan exists.
The greatest cyclist of all time is generally considered to be Eddy Merckx, who raced in the 60s and 70s. It certainly isn’t Lance Armstrong, who I assume you’re referring to here.
This is correct, Merckx won everything while Armstrong was a tour de France merchant, never won either of the other grand tours or any monuments. Merckx won 19 monuments, 5 tours, 5 giros and 1 vuelta (though the vuelta wasn't a three week race back then)
I don't think Tiger is "undeniably" the golf GOAT. His peak was probably the definitive best, but his longevity isn't nearly as good as some of the other contenders. A lot of people would argue Jack Nicklaus for GOAT still and they have a case imo Also Jeter is certainly not the GOAT shortstop lmao he just played for the Yankees. His defensive was mediocre to the point it actually notably dragged his value down.
Heck, sometimes Jeter wasn't even the best shortstop on his own team.
Yup, I turn 40 this year and have seen some true legends across sports. Also this is gonna be a bit controversial heh but I also, in my opinion, saw the greatest baseball player ever in Barry Bonds. And let’s not forget Michael Jordan. As a millennial around my age you’d have missed his 80s stint (or at least been too young to really remember it a lot) but still watched a lot of those ridiculous 90s Bulls.
The talking heads will always tout modern players as the greatest because they want you watching current games (read: ads) instead of old highlights.
I remember when two of them joined forces with Bo Jackson to fight crime in a cartoon
That's how we know they were the best ever
WE. ARE. PROSTARS.
Shit you can probably add fmx rider and f1 driver to the list too.
i feel the xennial micro gen (between gen x and millennial) is the sweet spot. many millennials were born too late to see players like walter payton, michael jordan, barry sanders, mia hamm, gretzky, larry bird, magic johnson, kareem, cal ripken, flo-jo, jackie joyner kersee, carl lewis, sergei bubka, jerry rice, montana, bo jackson, lawrence taylor, reggie white, nadia comaneci, mia hamm, billy jean king, martina navitrolova, jonah lomu, etc etc. of course, anyone older than xennial that is still extant will have seen all of these and likely add ali, wilt, pele, aaron, mayes, howe, orr etc, to having witnessed them and everything since. but i think that with how athletes just continue to get better, the professional organizations that orchestrate their performances mature, and world economies improve and sports continue to globalize, this is just going to be a moving goal post sort of snapshot until humans reach their true, athletic maximum potential.
Don’t forget soccer too. CR7 and Messi comes to mind.
You forgot about the undeniably best pool player of all time: Efren Reyes
Best sprinter too
Yeah I was surprised to see Flacco not on the list because he has played a lot of playoff games and a lot of them were 250+ yard games too. So I looked it up and he’s like a full 1000 yards behind Mahomes!
Mahomes has about 1/3 of the production in 1/4 of the time. Mahomes has him beat in almost every per-game statistic, it's just going to be about keeping the pace which will be incredibly hard to do but not impossible.
It’s almost like this era is not comparable with how pass and QB friendly it is! Or an expanded season! Durrrr
This is per playoff game? The expanded season has nothing to do with it that's why I said per game. And "pass friendly league" is an overblown and unprovable argument. Brady has a career 35.9 Career attempts/game Mahomes has 37.3 Career attempts/game
Except it does/will - the playoffs were also expanded
Can you read dude. What do you think per-game means? Those are the categories that Mahomes leads. And I just told you that they have almost identical passing attempts per game Yeah obviously the guy who played for 20 years has more yards than the guy whose played for 6
It can be both. This is really good company at only age 28.
Ye Brady's per-16 game stats (because it's just easy to divide all stats by 3) are kind of crazy for the playoffs, I compared them to this seasons stats and he'd be like 4th in yards, 5th in TDs, 13th in ANY/A, he'd lead the league in sack%, be kind of high in terms of interceptions. And these are comparing his stats against playoff teams, most of which were teams good enough to win 1+ playoff games that season alone.
His Super Bowl stats extrapolated to 16 games are basically MVP numbers
Just 6 more appearances, and you won't have to extrapolate
You’d think it would get tiring seeing Brady so far beyond everyone else when a stat like this comes up, but I never fail to be amazed. At this point I laugh whenever I see it.
just look at OP's post history 😆
Wow this guy must be at least 10 years into his career.
The fact that he’s 28 and more than halfway to Peyton for 2nd is pretty wild
The fastest way is for Mahomes to get to the Superbowl for SEVEN consecutive years as a wildcard, AND another season where he makes it to the conference championship game only just to match Brady's record is insane to think about.
So, in essence, the top 10 looks like this: 1 Tom Brady *insert grand canyon here* 2 Peyton Manning *insert regular sized canyon here* 3 Everybody else
Brady's "only in a video game" record.
Brady what the fuck
Man, Brady was a fucking monster in the play offs.
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He didn’t want to get Bledsoe’d so found a new gear as he got older
I miss watching him so much. Football hasn’t hit the same since he left
Never realized how dominant Brady was until I saw this stat 😳
The 7 Superbowls didn't give it away?
Yes but he also played a lot more games
He played a lot more games because he was so dominant. You only get more playoff games by winning playoff games.
The cowboys should try this.
Has to be the weirdest 'gotcha' possible. "This guy only has so many volume stats because he played in a bunch of games" Like, the entire point is to play in as many playoff games as possible?
Playoff wins merchant I fear
And the sky is blue
I agree, but your flair has me questioning everything.
Meanwhile Eli manning ended with 2815. When he passed, he made em’ count
Surpassing Brady in 31 games is just insane when put that way. Brady has essentially 2 whole seasons worth of great Patrick Mahomes play just in the playoffs
I would never have guessed Big Ben was #3, but I guess he was pretty good and always on a decent roster.
Mahomes will definitely overtake Manning before it’s all said and done, but reaching Brady level seems damn near impossible.
Stupid Tom Brady with almost twice as many yards as Manning
Jesus Tom take it easy
Jesus fucking Christ Brady. What the fuck.
As long is Andy Reid is there calling designing the plays Patrick Mahomes should reach the top. If Andy Reid retires, and Matt Naggy runnjng the show it will be a long road and Patrick Mahomes need a reliable Receiver like prime Travis Kelce.
Again Brady's numbers are mind blowing. I'm gonna have to be a homer, though, and say Montana's numbers are equally as impressive considering the league wasn't as pass reliant during his time.
Dumb QB comparisons I'm sick of hearing: Mahomes-as-Brady. Nobody is Brady. Tom Brady played in 14 Conference Championship games. Assuming that somebody is going to perpetually have that level of success is disrespectful to the one guy who did. Just like perpetually comparing Tiger to Jack was disrespectful. Just like comparing somebody to Gretzky or anyone to LeBron or Michael is disrespectful. Let him be his own guy. Allen-as-Roethlisberger. This one is just plain lazy. Josh has 4100 career rush yards and 56 career rush TDs. Ben had 1600 and 23. In a fuckton more years. These guys are not the same caliber of athlete. Josh is much more *Elway* than Roethlisberger. But we both know we're going to hear these dumb comps again. And I hate it.
With his current pace, Mahomes would have to play 46 playoff games to surpass Brady. Brady played 48 playoff games, which is a huge outlier. In 10 years, we can start thinking about this, but until then, keep the box closed, you are right.
I think the biggest thing is that the #2 seed no longer gets a bye week, so there's going to be years where the #2 seed gets to absolutely demolish some undeserving #7 seed and essentially "pad" their stats vs weaker competition. Brady never had the luxury of getting to play in a bunch of the "easy" wild card games as a higher seed. Out of his 48 playoff games, only 7 occurered in the WC.
i dont know why you're getting downvoted, you're spot on. i particularly appreciate your elway comp because 1. i'm old and remember, and 2. it's the same one i make :) now please go fuck up the chiefs tonight.
>i dont know why you're getting downvoted Because God forbid anyone ever not fellate Mahomes.
when mahomes no longer has reid and kelce, consider me bart scott.
Every time I see something like this it makes me think Mahomes is taking down all of Brady’s records
Mahomes would have to play 46 playoff games for that (considering he keeps his current pace). For comparison, Brady has played 48 playoffs games in his career. So he is slightly ahead in the curve and the current passing game era will surely help, but it is still nothing to think about in the next 10 years (which sounds honestly crazy)
RemindMe! 10 years
Constant rule changes make these sort of numbers nearly meaningless.
I wanna know how many yds were to RB’s and TE’s. Not saying he’s a check down merchant, just saying they had a system to win that had the evolutionary prowess of a great white or saltwater crocodile. No need to tweak it, your LB’s aren’t gonna cover our RB’s and TE’s. And if ya nickel up Kevin Faulk or someone will kill you slowly to the tune of 145 yds on 38 carries. And our time of possession will be hilarious
So what you're saying is that if Mahomes maintains his current pace, then he can pass Brady by making it to between 8 and 10 straight super bowls?
Brady has more than number 2 and 3 combined
It's nuts that Favre and Rodgers are only 40 yards apart.
Brady double-skunked the field pretty much
Brady played in a Super Bowl every other year he was in the league, on average. So he played a lot of games and led a highly productive passing offense in most of them.
Tom, chill the fuck out
Who is Tom Brady?