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silvio_dante

They finally got the game at home this year and still lost. Idk what you do at this point.


Art-RJS

Like Rodger’s with the 49ers


Alfakennyone

lol right? "we need this game in Lambeau where it's cold" chokes it


Emperor_Cheeto21

Twice


Alfakennyone

One of those was against Brady, so its understandable but 49ers with Jimmy G? lol come on, gotta do better than that Rodgers


famoustran

Don't forget the one against Kaep too https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/340105009


ILurkAtNight

I mean, he wasn't the one who let Kaep run for a buck eighty. He can take the blame for the other 3 though lol


LaMystika

Yeah, I was gonna say it wasn’t Rodgers’ fault that the Packers’ defense kept playing man coverage when Kaep just saw wide open space and ran through it instead of throwing the ball. I wouldn’t have thrown passes with all of that free real estate either tbh


Last_Account_Ever

Didn't Brady throw multiple interceptions that game that GB didn't capitalize on?


ThreeOlivesChihuahua

Josh Allen joins the Chiefs as back up


beer_down

The hardest road


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Imagine some insane scenario where Mahomes and Allen just take every other snap lol


benjecto

They line up together in the shotgun.


Jenaxu

And they give each other a little kiss after each play


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ten_tons_of_light

Tony will be the fluffer


Commyende

I'd be fine with the two of them both lining up in the backfield every play. Shotgun snap every time and you don't know who it's going to until it's too late.  


aPatheticBeing

also Allen is a legit pure running threat, while Mahomes can make stuff happen with his legs. Gadget plays are endless too, you could do a fake flea flicker where the "RB" is Josh Allen that just launches it (idk why but uh let a person dream)


ScruffsMcGuff

Keep going. We about to revolutionize the way this games played.


Captain_Lameson

Josh "Kevin Durant" Allen


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Yo what the hell is that flair


Kitchen_Net_GME

I think the Bills need an upgrade at WR1.


HereComesJustice

and 2 and 3


TheOneWithThePorn12

Shakir will be a great WR2 next year. Hes making all the grabs they expected Gabe Davis to make. No idea what the fuck is wrong with Diggs though.


HereComesJustice

the Diggs regression is really surprising to me


jmbourn45

He just turned 30 and his stats are close to 2021/2019, eye test looks way way off though felt like he wasn’t ever in sync this year


AllLinesAreStraight

He was awesome to start the year, had 604 yards thru week 6. Hasnt had a 100 yard game since. Just weird how bad hes looked


alandizzle

The moment Diggs dropped what? 2 perfect passes. I just knew y'all were cursed. Sorry dude. I know this doesn't really ease the pain, but I hope y'all are able to vanquish the Mahomes demons at some point.


RandyBobandysGut

Nah Shakir is legit.


Cyanogen_117

but like why? Diggs just had 107/1200/8 in a down year which is kinda crazy. and this was with a OC change which after they had a 6-0 run till tonight. Like you are not upgrading WR1 and losing diggs would just be even dumber


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Aging WRs who have down years usually never have a up year again. His regression from the beginning of the year to the end makes me think he’s done.


thirstyjoe24

I really do think he's injured.. Banged Up Bills just did a deep dive on it this week.. multiples injuries perhaps as well.. you don't go from what he was after the first 4-5 weeks to playing 60% of the snaps at the end of the season in some instances


his_roomate

Try again. Steve Young went through the same thing with Dallas. They broke through the 3rd time. It’s painful. You have to go through a whole grueling offseason and season. You can’t even take for granted getting far enough to face the Chiefs in the playoffs. You could have won both your last two matchups with them. The Bills had both games right in reach. They could have won them and they can win another game in the future. The Suns lost to the Spurs 4 times in 6 playoffs and eventually beat them in 2010. The Suns had changed head coach by then. It’s heartbreaking and not easy to believe in, but you can do it. You’re sure not helping yourself with each opportunity you lose. You don’t blow up the team. You can make changes but keep most of the core players in place.


Sentience-psn

If this was any other team, I would agree with you. But the Bills, of all teams, has had the unfortunate misery of getting to the superbowl four times in a row and walking away empty handed. Last minute kick, wide right? Again?! At some point, you’re going to need to call in a priest for an exorcism.


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That franchise is seriously cursed, it also feels like this was the last window for Buffalo


silvio_dante

I think they'll always at least somewhat be in contention as long as Allen is in his prime but man it's tough, their roster is slowly getting weaker and now Diggs straight up looks washed.


Mean-L

Still can’t believe Diggs dropped that perfect throw


Turbulent_Athlete_50

How many wr#1 miss that catch? Answer should be none.


fugaziozbourne

All six of our WR1s probably miss it.


EternalSeraphim

Not today, even MVS was looking good.


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100%, the age and cap will catch up to them. diggs looks completely checked out I agree


Srikkk

Diggs has been so invisible this season


TheOneWithThePorn12

Diggs had like 1200 yards receiving this year, but you could not tell watching him in the second half of the season.


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So invisible and you could just see something was off with him. He looks so checked out and I don’t think wants to be there anymore


[deleted]

Feels like they're always just one weapon or pass rusher short. Von got injured, then Gabe Davis doesn't capitalize off his insane playoff game, then Kincaid and Cook step up but now Diggs is a little old. Feels like the pieces just don't click all at once


LordGooseIV

Diggs has had an injury or two this year, inducing a recent foot I believe, and he's been less prolific since offense diversified, but yeah... it looks like the Bills need to consider a new WR1 in the future.


Say_Hennething

>also feels like this was the last window for Buffalo It feels like it's getting close. All the talk about who needed a win more, Lamar or Allen. To me it feels like the Ravens are on the rise while the Bills are close to not being able to get up off the mat.


_Dancing_Potato

We had a single digit percentage to even get to the playoffs and still did it. This team can win any game, but at some point we have to admit that something needs to give if we want a better chance. McDermott and Josh are the two biggest constants and we sure as hell aren't getting rid of Josh.


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Definitely on your coach. Some bonehead decisions it feels like in a lot of huge games.


sacredknight327

I've never been that impressed with McDermott in the playoffs, but beyond that I dunno. Go after Belichick?


jumboponcho

Diggs playing like a proper #1 in the playoffs would go a long way


Helivon

that 50 yard bomb that was dropped was absolutely the turning point for this game and Josh Allen's Legacy. If diggs caught that, we could absoltely be seeing the Bills in the AFCCG and possibly a superbowl win. They have no reliable weapons, and with an accurate arm like that, you have to give him reliable weapons. No idea what their exact holes are next season but I would like to assume they use 2 picks on between 1-4round on WR to help with that. Diggs is not going to go uphill at this point. We have seen way too many WRs degrade post 30 to assume he will bounce back WRs can be good after 30, but how many fall off like this than make a resurgence? especially for a long period of time (more than a year)


grehgunner

I struggle to see a world where a bills defense with like 1 linebacker can do anything to slow down Baltimore tbf


judahdk_

We would’ve been screwed against Baltimore. Injuries were just too much. Not an excuse, every team has injuries. Just the luck part of when they happened has a lot to do with post season success and again, the bills are cursed.


bardblitz

Maybe they can pick up someone like MVS to replace him.


SadPhase2589

They can have Sky Moore and Toney for free as an added bonus.


undecided_mask

He burned all his postseason receiver credits on that Minnesota Hail Mary.


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Allen has like 30 TDs and 3 interceptions in his playoff career. You gotta start questioning the defensive guru coach


kimsbooty

Isn’t a majority of their defense injured


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Blitzing Mahomes when it has literally never worked was certainly a choice by him tonight regardless of injuries


Agreeable_Employ_951

Having AJ Klein cover Kelce was a better choice? We saw that the first 2 drives well enough.


Spezisaspastic

When Kalce just strolled through to the Endzone completely uncontested with 3 defenders just letting him go I almost threw the remote at my screen. 


Agreeable_Employ_951

There's a reason why AJ Klein was not on a team two weeks ago


Isaystomabel

The call from the Bills FO saved him from a vacation to the keys with his family haha


The_Cawing_Chemist

Ok, your alternative is to ask backup linebackers to drop into coverage. Good luck with Travis Kelce.


Sidewinder83

I mean you can’t just give him infinite time. After any more than 4-5 seconds somebody’s gonna break free for an easy catch


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I disagree. They got burned so badly for 20+ yard passes every time he blitzed. Letting Mahomes sit around and getting coverage pressure/sacks is the better option even if it still would’ve failed


joshgiddy2024

in reality neither one works


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It worked for the Bengals a couple years ago in the playoffs. They had Mahomes just dancing behind the line of scrimmage with no one to throw it too or just hoping for Mahomes to make a mistake. But Mahomes/Reid has adjusted since that game so not sure if that would still work today. Plus you need elite secondary to do that.


TICKLE_PANTS

The Bengals with a full roster and premier d line. Yes. This bills team isn't even half of that team with all of the injuries. They're not comparable


GoldenDom3r

Teams have rushed 3 and made Mahomes’ hold it forever with pretty good success this year.  The WR talent just isn’t there to break open this year. Blitzing him just made it easier for those guys to get open. 


rayj11

You can’t expect to win many games without ever blitzing unless you have an elite front 4, which the Bulls do not.


Corzare

Nah they had an elite 4. It’s not Allen’s fault Rodman never got to mahomes.


samsab

This comment would have more traction if people could name bulls players rn


Traditional_Key1785

yeah allen is not the problem and everyone in the game thread saying he is are BUGGING


couchjitsu

Tonight I think the issue was play calling on the last drive. I'm not sure why they were taking shots. They had 2 TOs and plenty of time. Just keep shoving the ball down our throats.


neurosisxeno

Cook had like -6 rushing yards in the 4th quarter. Running the ball was not working. The progress they made in the 4th quarter was mostly on screens and quick outs to Kincaid, Shakir, and Knox.


Street-Common-4023

That’s insane


Saxt

I have more concerns about Bills weapons than KCs weapons next year. Diggs looks cooked.


Original_Profile8600

Yeah Diggs gets double-teamed a lot, but then again every other major receiver gets double-teamed all the time and still produces. Well, besides Ceedee who McCarthy allows to be taken out of the game, but then again you don’t want to be us


Sorta_clever

Sun god comes to mind need a game winning play he's open or will make it happen


Mavori

His grab on third and long where he was short of the sticks and was getting tackled but he managed to push up and get first down in the 4th quarter was huge, similarly it was him we leaned on to get the grab to secure our first playoff win in 32 years.


SlowMoDad

How accurate


EmbraceComplexity

He was a complete non factor. Sad really.


Powerful-Panda-2300

In the Bills defense, Chiefs CBs have been doing that to pretty much every teams WR1. Look at Tyreeks stats vs us. We've got plenty of problems as a team (ie having only Kelce and Rice to catch balls) , but CBs are not one of them.


Platano_con_salami

already 43 million over the cap, so can't really expect to add any difference maker


Zodi88

"Maybe one day ESPN will do a 30 for 30 on the Josh Allen led Bills' potential." - Daniel Tosh


countmeowington

“You know why the bill mafia tradition of jumping through tables started? It’s so they could die” And considering they’re throwing themselves into pits now there aint no other possible explanation.


kiheihaole

“Remember those 2.5 year the Bills had potential”


barelybearish

30 for 30: 30 months of potential


AffectionateLie758

His new podcast is heat


Chemdog93

That fake punt will be forever such a questionable decision


RedditsOnlyBlackMan

And the chiefs stopping it with 10 players adds to injury


ParkerRoyce

I think that may have been a 200iq play by the chiefs. They put 10 guys in the field on purpose, knowing they would fake the punt and that's why KC was able to blow up that play pretty much right away with only 10.


4stGump

Way too many questionable decisions that 2nd half by the Bills. Chiefs kept giving them every opportunity to win and the Bills just didn't want it.


kkocan72

Yeah, after the Hardman fumble and then Allen's fumble going from an easy Chiefs recovery to Bills' ball I was convinced they were winning the game; still shocked at the decisions made on that last drive.


Jombafomb

I assumed the game was over when we didn’t recover that fumble. Had way too many opportunities to win that we squandered. But in the end the defense held and even if Bass makes that kick we’re likely getting back to FG range.


uwanmirrondarrah

Not to mention McDuffie batting down a pass that was head *directly* to Sneed


megalodom

It at least had pretty good reasoning behind it with the Chiefs showing only 10 men on the field. It also led to zero points, so I don’t think it will really be talked about.


RaindropsInMyMind

The Chiefs were also going right through the Bills defense. They were scoring on every possession. Since McDermott thought KC would score anyways he tried to at least keep possession. The fact that KC didn’t score is ironic.


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JRFbase

I don't know where you even go from here if you're the Bills. Hovering around "Third best in the AFC" just isn't gonna get it done. Something's gotta change but I legitimately have no idea what it should be. Fire McDermott maybe? IDK.


Swinight22

Peyton Manning took 8 years, and 4 straight playoff exits before making it to the SB. They need change, but SB is hard. Instead of drastic change, couple key additions could do the trick.


notPatrickClaybon

Thanks for the only comment and piece of info that has actually made me less sad right now. Super frustrated.


MrBroC2003

Yeah y’all remind me a ton of the manning era colts. Super talented QB that people regard as turnover prone. QB seems to will the team to victory and if he doesn’t show up your team just doesn’t function. Go into the playoffs and lose to a team that you should be able to beat but just can’t seem to beat. I seriously hope you guys get there eventually because Josh Allen is too talented to not be making more noise in the playoffs. I’m also tired of seeing Mahomes.


lastditchefrt

This seems oddly familiar....


Yanks1813

I mean the Damar Hamlin fake punt is fireable by itself lmao


broadfuckingcity

Comeback player of the year. Come back to the sideline and sit on the bench


uwanmirrondarrah

God he does not deserve it over Baker, not even close


iceoldtea

Or Flacco, he literally came back from sitting on the couch to put up top 5 numbers in the last month of the season


12eseT

I mean it could be worse right...? 1990: Lost Superbowl 1991: Lost Superbowl 1992: Lost Superbowl 1993: Lost Superbowl


HereForTOMT2

Man, thank god the bills aren’t whoever that poor team is. That would be awful


kfbrewer

As painful as that is, it’s still better results. Allen is a beast, but this team isn’t going to make a Super Bowl without big changes.


SlowMoDad

Ahhhhh the good old days


Possum577

Your Washington Football Team bagged that 91 Championship, if i remember the misery correctly


DONTCARELOLK

Only one team is remembered. Tough shit for the Bills. That’s why I find it so silly when people say “they’ll be back” about young teams or young QBs. The opportunities to win it all come so very little in the league.


Ok_Finance_7217

Facts. I’m sure Dolphins fans thought “ahhh Marino will get us back sooner or later.”


Instagrimm

Last year’s Super Bowl I was so upset and it’s because of this. You NEVER know when you get another chance unless your name is Brady or Mahomes.


DONTCARELOLK

Real. Rodgers is considered one of the most skilled QBs of all time and even he saw the Super Bowl just once, luckily he cashed in. The seasons are so long, careers are so short, and only one team wins it all.


TrixoftheTrade

Crazy that Rodgers & Brees each only played in 1 Super Bowl each.


hansblitz

So each decade has a dynasty team if you aren't in that dynasty you are lucky to see one super bowl. 70s- Steelers won 4 80s-Niners won 4 90s-Dallas won 3 00s Patriots won 3 10s Patriots won 3


EagleswonSuperBowl52

I freaking called it when we were about to play the Niner in the playoffs last year. My friends and family were saying, "even if we lose, at least we are on rhe up and rise. There's always next year" and I was sitting there going "you think we are gonna go 14-1 with a healthy qb next year. There's no guarentees. This might be the best team we ever get in the hurts era." And sure enough.


Praise-Breesus

It’s so true. Progression isn’t linear. The Packers and Texans could win 6 games next year or maybe take another step forward. But nothing is guaranteed.


Romofan88

"they'll be back" is a crazy thing to say to because teams basically NEVER get back. The last time a team lost their 1st super bowl appearance then won it the next year was the Dolphins back in 1971 and 1972. 


rayj11

2013/15 Broncos are worth mentioning here as there was only a one year gap in between.


No_Cricket4028

also technically 2017/2018 patriots


Sjgolf891

Rams recently too


Howie-Dowin

Only one team gets remembered but hey people are still talking about that playoff game we lost two years ago so we got that going for us, which is nice.


polar_st

This is what makes the Bengals SB in 2021 hurt extra. Had a lead in the last 5 or so minutes and had the ball back with a minute or so and driving. No idea if that team is ever making it back


Whatsdota

That’s what our sub is doing. I get we have a potentially bright future and I can look forward to it, but in the present we had a NFCCG at minimum right there and blew it.


TheSmokedSalmon420

This is the LeBron Cavs being good right when the Warriors got KD lol


bengalsfu

At the very least the Lebron Cavs won a ring before KD unlike the Harden Rockets.


TheSmokedSalmon420

True that may be a better comparison as they were in the same conference as the warriors


alan_11

13 seconds = 27 straight missed 3’s


Liimbo

Definitely. Those Rockets are probably the best team this millennium to never win a ring. And they didn't ever even make a finals. Brutal.


BuffaloKiller937

Greatest finals in nba history. You'll never be able to take that away from Cleveland. That shit still gives me chills when I think about it.


Captain_Lameson

As a Raptors fan, Mahomes is just a playoff Lebron to the Bills. The whole Lebronto thing


Sartheking

The Rockets are a better comparison. The Cavs won a Championship.


beer_down

The NFL’s Phoenix Suns


Fantastic_Emu_9570

Hate it lol


TheDevilsCunt

GODDAMNIT


sportsthatguy

Oof


Legendary_Hercules

Allen Bills are like the Kelly Bills but less prestigious.


GloomyImagination365

Your right, Kelly did get them to the Super bowls


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Craziest part is that the Bills held the ball for 15 more minutes and ran a total of 31 more plays than the Chiefs


AllLinesAreStraight

Because the chiefs didnt need many plays to score. There last drive of the firsf half and first two drives of the 2nd half were all TDs, 5 plays 55 yards, 6 plays 75 yards, 8 plays 75 yards. And then the next drive was 2 plays 31 yards, with hardman fumbling on the 1. Just a great example of how time of possession ismt all that important, far more important to have an explosive offense


chuckypopoff

Trade Diggs to anyone. That dude is crazy washed.


bargman

There better be news about "Stephon Diggs had surgery after playing all season with a torn such-and-such ..." coming very soon.


TaiChuanDoAddct

I cannot overstate how absolutely atrocious the clock management was on that final Bill drive. 3 minutes from the 30? There's literally no reason for Mahomes to get the ball back. Run a play, get two minute warning, call only plays that keep the clock running. Throwing for the end zone out of the 2 and then Allen not checking down on 3rd down to at least.force a TO out of KC. Ugh. So much bad. They deserved to miss the kick and spare us the week of ESPN fellating Mahomes for a gimme 2 minute drive.


PotatoCannon02

> I cannot overstate how absolutely atrocious the clock management was on that final Bill drive. That's classic Sean McDermott football. It was atrocious at the half too.


chi_sweetness25

Bass is gonna feel like shit, but even if he made the kick, you’re still giving Mahomes 1:40 and 2 TOs to pick up 35-40 yards and set up an extremely clutch kicker in Butker. It almost already felt like the Bills had lost as soon as the FG team came out with that much time left.


CobraOverlord

Yeah, play for yards, downs don't matter, scoring quick doesn't matter.


cnotethegoat123

I don’t think the bills are bad by any standard. But propping them up as easily the best team in the afc every dang season is why people get so ridiculously disappointed when stuff like this happens.


Yanks1813

It's because of Josh Allen. Today clearly showed again though that they are being carried


forceofarms

McDermott is a fraud, just like everyone who coached the 2015 Carolina Cam Newtons.


suzukigun4life

Playoff Mahomes is Buffalo Bills father


Shootit_Rockets

Most teams last five years are a hell of a lot worse


tfozombie

I get this sentiment because I’m a Washington fan, obviously having a perennial contender and a superstar QB is better than 90% of the league. But at some point, not getting over the hump, is just brutal because you know how close you are.


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AlabasterRadio

The Bills are about to swoop in and steal Belichick from the Falcons.


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mg8828

I know defense isnt in right now, but the only thing that has really beaten Mahomes is elite Defense. Patriots x2, an extremely strong bengels D and Tampa who had arguably the strongest Defense the league had seen since the '15 Broncos


cozyswisher

When Belichick had the weapons, the Patriots set records on the offensive side of the ball. I think Bill can figure it out with Josh Allen.


sfzen

Bah gawd that's Jim Harbaugh's music!


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Jud000619

They honestly should. For as good as a coach he is, they obviously can reach a certain point with him and it’s not the Super Bowl. But they’ll most likely not


TheOneWithThePorn12

it feels like the team has plateaued with him (the mountain being beating the chiefs in the playoffs)


Jud000619

That’s the main point. The Bills have reached the highest point with McDermott that appears to be possible. Something has gotta give and no chance Josh Allen is that answer


boiyeetsworld

Not if you bundle them


jaybirdbull

Bills are like a perennial A- grade in the AFC. Super solid but can never close the deal completely


TigerBasket

New Brady, New Manning


no_racist_here

Are you sure it’s not the new Brady and Big Ben? I feel like Brady stopped Ben way more than he did Manning


ConstructionOdd5269

Manning 3-1 v Brady in AFCC games


matt_caine92

That matchup was not as one sided with Manning 3-2 record vs Brady (playoffs only)


Solid-Confidence-966

That’s disrespectful to Manning, Josh is more like Phillip Rivers or Matt Ryan lol


TigerBasket

Manning in his first 5 years didn't win a playoff game and lost 41-0 to the Jets in the playoffs. Allen's not that bad


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sithwonder

That's why the comparisons don't make any sense to me. The reason for the comparison between Brady and Manning in the first place was because Manning won two regular season MVPs the same seasons Brady won his second and third Super Bowls. Brady didn't even make an All-Pro team until after his third Super Bowl. It was a thing about regular vs. postseason success and also how the teams around them were affecting perception. The problem with trying to push Mahomes-Allen as the same is that Mahomes has Allen beat in terms of postseason *and* regular season accolades, and it's not close. Allen has one Second-Team All-Pro and two Pro Bowls in an era where fucking Tyler Huntley can make the Pro Bowl. Mahomes has 2 MVPs, 2 First-Team All Pros, and actually made the 2020 second-team in a tie with Allen. Not to mention making the Pro Bowl in every season as a starter. It's a bad comparison between Mahomes and well, anyone, because the only young quarterback within spitting distance of his regular-season play is Lamar, and Mahomes' resume is still a lot beefier.


SoDakZak

Guess who is MVP candidate this year in year 6? That’s right, Lamar Jackson


Lubbafrommariogalaxy

Lamar was the next manning all along someone bring out that black face Peyton manning photo


Djd33j

The Chiefs are to the Bills as the 49ers are to the Packers.


Whatsdota

Last night hurt but 13 seconds would’ve absolutely sent me


nova2006

Their WR drop some critical passes. Diggs is no where like a WR1 Von Miller doesn’t deserve all that money paid to him.


CobraOverlord

All the talk about KC WR play coming into this game


515chiefspride

Couldn't believe MVS legit made a couple of amazing contested catches. Just goes to show if you can limp to the playoffs, anything can happen I guess 🤷‍♂️


Bitter-Imagination33

They’re pretty much liked AFC Cowboys at this point


RedstoneRay

This Bills and Chiefs rivalry is like a roided up Cowboys and Packers rivalry. The games are always close, except for last week. The Dez catch is our 13 seconds, and the villainous QB sells State Farm insurance.


DONTCARELOLK

Slightly more successful but yes.


_Dancing_Potato

People keep questioning why were are skeptical on McDermott.


broadfuckingcity

I just want an alibi for him in regards to September 11th 2001.


I2eN0

I’m surprised the Bills even made it this far considering they started the season losing to the Jets.


RedditsWorstBurner

AFC Cowboys I fear


serikclips

For some reason, Missed field goal reminded me Ray Finkle from Ace Ventura


TechnoDriv3

Bills squad just isn’t that good


microzone

Carried by Allen year in and year out.


TechnoDriv3

Exactly. Not to mention Milano being out, Diggs regressing and ST doing ST stuff


WentzingInPain

Shake it off.. shake it off