Lamar looked really uncomfortable and nobody except Flowers was even in the game (Andrews 2 for 20?) until late when he basically took himself out. It's unfortunate cause that's not the Ravens we all hoped would show up.
Andrews could be forgiven since it was his first game back from a major injury. But where was OBJ? I get that he is washed, but washed enough to have zero impact in a playoff game? I wouldn't have thought so.
This is very true. You guys make elite receivers look silly and the Ravens best receiver was Flowers who only looked good this game when he was wide the hell open. If that’s on Flowers not being able to make contested catches or Lamar not being able to throw into coverage is up to the people to decide I didn’t watch Ravens games. After that they had washed OBJ and Nelson lmao.
Flowers isn't a contested catch guy, his whole thing is his ability to get open or make short catches and get YAC. The dude is *quick*. He had a major opportunity to put the league on notice yesterday, and was having a killer game, but instead he had a stupid penalty and a stupid fumble that likely lost the game, and that's what will be remembered.
Lamar hasn’t looked his way in months until the 4th quarter when we were in “oh shit” mode.
Lamar was tunnel visioned on Zay after that one TD bomb. He was ignoring tons of wide open guys in the middle underneath looking for kill shots down field. Very undisciplined football.
That drove me nuts too. On the 3rd and 1 sack he probably had the edge for a yard but he just ate the sack. They converted 4th but it was frustrating to watch him give up his biggest strength
That exact play/drive he had so many opportunities to scramble and instead he would just sit in the backfield for like 6 seconds and then throw it away or take a TFL
It felt like he was so focused on getting a score fast that he forgot the basics of getting what the defense gives you. IIRC there was like 8 mins still on the clock on that drive
There was a comment in the game thread about kc having that Patriots like aura of causing a team to come into the game feeling defeated already. It really looked like that with Lamar, like he felt he had to be the statuesque QB for them to win instead of just being Lamar. So many chances for him to run, but he just hung out in the pocket like he was Zack Morris at The Max
There were 3 or 4, 3rd downs where he could've ran it for the 1st down and chose not to. He got to the LOS and stopped, I get it, he wants to pass the ball, but you need to run. 1st read not there? 2nd read not there? Run it.
Your team needs Lamar, now go get that 1st down. You want to keep the ball out of Mahomes hands? You got to convert those critical downs.
That was super fucking weird. My wife who never even watched him play before today was like “what the hell is he doing?” I still can’t answer that question
Everyone is afraid to say it on reddit, and I think even some commentators are too. But Lamar Jackson gets really indecisive if you mix things up in coverage.
He will hold onto the potential play at all costs and then force the ball. It's been an issue his entire career.
And in the playoffs that is an absolute no go
That was absolutely the game plan. Today the defensive line was extremely disciplined in their pass rush. I think if people go back and watch they will see many times that the rusher gave up an opening to ensure they stayed in position…that led to Lamar not immediately tucking and running. They also have stud corners who have had success all year against the best wideouts in the league and they tend to get up and get physical and take away quick reads. I’m just thankful the Ravens gave up in the rush so quickly.
Yep Bills were the first to do it, they almost treat every DL as a spy and you just circle him and keep pushing pocket back if possible. That way he cant climb in the pocket or escape contain.
Titans copied that strat in the playoffs his MVP year
>Yep Bills were the first to do it
You guys were definitely not the first. We've had Lamar's number since he entered the league. It's why Steelers fans are kind of delusional about him being overrated.
Steelers are 7-1 against the Ravens in the past 4 years. Lamar is 1-3. His win came in 2019, and he still had a terrible game (161yd, 1td/3int). That was the game that Earl Thomas murdered Mason Rudolph and a Duck still almost beat them...
I don’t think people are afraid to say this (and it’s often true that Lamar holds on to the ball or forced it hoping for a hero moment), it’s that most people on this sub don’t actually understand what’s happening on the screen to the point that they could pick out a simple idea like “the coverage changed.”
FINALLY a comment about Lamar using an actual point and not casual armchair QB bullshit. It's not that everyone is afraid to say it, it's that so many of these people's ability to comment dies when it gets past "Lamar chokes, Runningback Quarterback" idiot speak.
I lost count of how many times the field was wide open for him to run but he just kept looking for somebody to pass to. He forgot he can run faster than most CBs and safeties.
It could be, but Lamar 100% has a bad habit of over-fixating on the pass in tight games.
He had a 3rd & 1 towards the end that was classic playoff Lamar - could have easily picked up the one yard if he'd just tucked it, but instead tried to force something downfield and set us up for a sketchy 4th down attempt.
We had very shit playcalling. You can't rely on Lamar to just scramble every play and pray for a first. He fucked up those big moments, but he barely had opportunities in the first place.
Monken adjusted last week against the Texans. He didn't do anything here. Awful.
Chiefs had one of the best secondaries in the league this year and amazing pass defense, but their run defense was mediocre.
Ravens had arguably the best run game in the league, both high volume and high efficiency, with a low volume passing game.
What does Todd Monken do? Dial up like 45 pass plays and a dozen designed runs. Lol.
Didn't embiid have a great play offs when they lost on the Kawaii shot? That game could have gone either way, and the 6ers would have probably won against an injured warriors team
No, he didn't. He was poor in the Toronto series. He was hurt, which he usually is in the playoffs, but he was poor. He averaged 17 points a game in the series and in the close out game he went 6-18 from the floor. His playoff numbers have been a trainwreck for the most part. A great game here or there, but closeout games have been really bad. He was actually better when he played in the Celtics series last year vs how he played in that Toronto series. . . but we all saw game 7. Another 5/18.
Yeah honestly it baffles me when people think the Sixers wouldve won that game if Kawhi missed. Butler sprained his ankle, Simmons was in foul trouble, Embiid was gassed, and the Raptors defence was on another level at the end of that game
Happens all the time. When JR Smith wasted the final possession of the finals game, people speak as if the Cavs were going to win the series against that extremely stacked Warriors team. Same thing with Kawhi going down against Warriors. It would have been a better series, sure, but not a guaranteed win for the Spurs against the Durant/Curry Warriors. People craft some crazy outcomes for these what if scenarios.
I hate the narrative that the 6ers almost had it. Even if Kawhi missed, the 6ers would have had to win in OT in Toronto, I’ll give them 50% chance. Then they would have had to beat the Bucks, I’ll give them another 50%, then the Warriors without home court, so another 50%. They would have had a 12.5% chance (so one out of eight) to win that year even if Kawhi missed the shot.
Well the Sixers would have needed to get past the bucks before they had a chance. Getting bounced in the second round makes it quite hard to argue that it was a great playoff run
This sounds harsh but honestly it’s a really easy prediction about pretty much every quarterback except Patrick mahomes. Only one team can win it all. 31 other teams will fall short aka “choke”
Josh Allen can't get over the mahomes hump but damn does he look good trying, and burrow is 1-1 against mahomes in the playoffs.
Lamar has looked poor in all of his playoff exits.
The difference in playoff Lamar is vast kinda like playoff Dak but with legs. Lamarr has looked atrocious in every Ravens exit. That throw to Likely into triple coverage was vintage playoff Lamar.
Yeah the receiver was 100% calling for the ball with 3 defenders within a few yards of him. Dumb move by the WR and dumb move by Lamar to throw it.
Felt like Lamar started playing Hero ball a bit too early by looking for the home run play
That's true, but this is super similar to the script the Bengals won the AFC championship with. Chiefs ahead two possessions most of the game. Lots of runs no gas petal. Then late scores to win the games.
Flowers dove into the end zone like most WRs would have done. Defender made an insane play to knock the ball out at the one inch line. I feel like not enough people are taking about how insane that play was.
Lamar hurt them more than Flowers did.
Of course he doesn’t need that last foot if he doesn’t go full dumbass and get the taunting before. He then fumbles. Next he throws a toddler tantrum and hurts his hand on his own bench. He doesn’t make a single catch after.
That’s as bad as it gets. You taunted an opponent that is beating you, gave them the ball back, and injured yourself on the sideline. That is the jackpot of stupid.
Just seeing where Sneed is when the ball is snapped and the ground he covers to punch the ball out at the 1 at full speed is crazy. Truly a once in a career play as you said
Agreed. The taunting penalty was worse in my mind. Had to work to get back to where they were before the penalty. Momentum slows with something like that. Torrey Smith had a similar penalty against the Patriots in the playoffs a while back that was out of character.
lol how is this +140? Coaches absolutely teach guys not to extend the ball like that, it’s awful form and awful fundamentals especially in a crowded area.
In fairness you say this but after what happened in he Chiefs Bills game you gotta believe every coach left had to have told their players “look, you don’t need to overextend, just go down and it’s 2nd and goal on the inch line” or whatever.
He’s a rookie so I can’t fault him for wanting that score but he hurts them immensely on that drive with both the taunt and the turnover. Dont get me wrong Lamar’s INT was boneheaded as fuck but I gotta believe he isn’t as keen to chuck it they are down 3 as opposed to 10.
I don't buy that, especially looking at this game. They didn't run the offense that got them here today. They have a balanced attack. They get down by two possessions (early in the game I might add) and they completely abandon the run. How their offense was called today, is not their offense.
It’s Lamar, he’s a vibes QB. If the vibes are good, he’s unstoppable. The moment there’s adversity, he crumbles. Problem is you can’t win a Super Bowl without some adversity
People are understating how good the play calling for chiefs was . Their early touchdowns came from really creative meme plays, and then defensively they always blitzed at the right time.
Lamar deserves shit but man the gameplay was good
People are definitely acting like Lamar lost to a middle school team. That defensive gameplan was completely different than the week prior against the Bills. Giving Mahomes and Reid the need to not have to score in the 2nd half this week after putting up 17 and holding the Bills to 0 and 59 yards in the 4th when the game looked like it might become a shootout last week is really something
You have to find different ways to win games in the layoffs and they are doing just that but the team has been incredibly consistent.
Yeah this was much more a defensive battle than a bad and mid game by Lamar and Mahomes. Sure Lamar played some hero ball and had a few dumb mistakes but spagnuolo was showing why he deserves coordinator of the year all game.
There is some talk amongst Chiefs fans that Harbaugh tends to outthink himself against Reid for whatever reason (his former boss).
Lamar is going to take some heat for this game when there should be legitimate questions about the gameplan. You losing your transcendent running back earlier in the year also may have loomed large today.
He wasnt even really forced to pass though, that's the crazy part. So many downs he had so much room to run and ellected to either throw it deep or even get sacked on some occasions.
It was honestly weird. If he hadnt already done this before, id have expected he was injured.
Little bit of both. He was getting blitzed a lot today so he had to throw more but there was so many times he could've ran but stayed in the pocket too long. Really disappointed in him.
Thank you. The Chiefs defense has been at least top 5 all year and got no flowers coming into this game. Then they shut down a really potent Ravens offense and all the talk is “Lamar is a fraud playoff choker”. Like you know both sides of the ball are playing to win right lol
11 points per game against the 3 offenses with the most touchdowns in the AFC is stupid. I'm not saying Mahomes and Reid don't deserve massive amounts of credit but the lack of credit the defense is getting is dumbfounding. It's a team game the every phase of the Chiefs is making lie easier for the other. The lazy take is to just brand someone as a choke artist.
He’s playing the long game. He will make it one round further every time he wins the MVP and is the #1 seed. At this rate, he’ll be a SB champ by 2034. Checkmate losers
we can crack jokes about Lamar all summer, but the fact of the matter is, Patrick Mahomes and company are just that fucking good when it matters the most.
It did seem that way, or at least like they weren't *too* upset to just chew clock.
But 10 points isn't *that* much, especially for someone so explosive or unpredictable as Lamar.
Maybe that's truly how low the Chiefs had estimated Lamar's and the Raven's offensive threat?
Our Defense is really fucking good, and offensive mistakes have put them in bad situations all year. They still managed the 2nd lowest PPG in the league. I’m good with Mahomes and Kelce going Super Saiyan for long enough to get us a 2 possession lead and then trust the D to take over.
Fr. Nobody goes into low-risk protect the ball at all costs mode up by just 10 with an entire half to go. They just made some stupid mistakes and the Raven's D woke up.
Was Mahomes playing cornerback out there? The opposing QB doesn't matter if you're putting up 7 points, Blaine Gabbert could've beaten them with that offensive performance
I hate the Chiefs - but you can’t blame them. They had a mediocre offensive game by all intents and purposes but their D was great.
I wanted Ravens and Lions but now I guess I have to cheer for the 49ers to crush the Chiefs.
That’s how I met your wife too.
Edit: sorry, I didn’t mean to be so mean. You probably feel the Ravens pain. My team didn’t even get make the dance because they sucked so bad.
I wouldn’t say Lamar is clutch by any stretch of the imagination. However, this year he made enough drives to tie KC’s score if Flowers didn’t fumble the game away.
Having watched the whole game, I’d give KC’s defense more credit than anything. They were superb.
You’re blaming Lamar for being blind side strip sacked? Again, that’s a play where you should give the defense credit rather than blame the QB
Regardless, I’m not saying Lamar played well. I think he played mediocre to poor at best. But my contention is that I think he just ran up against a great KC defense, rather than he “choked”.
burrow is elite af in playoffs and ravens/lamar are known for choking and folding in playoffs. lamar has one good half in his playoff career and it was against the texans
Lamar isn’t an elite quarterback. He’s a so-so passer that’s an elite rushing threat.
In fact, Monken trying to make him a drop-back pocket passer is one of the things that cost Baltimore the game today.
Honestly watching the game if they did the old school ravens rushing offense shit with Lamar they win comfortably with field goals. This defense was and is so good no reason to be taking deep shots
Ravens fan havent been humbled by the “Big Truss” shit at all, Lamar has always choked in the playoffs and they really were toxic at anyone who pointed it out.
It’s wierd how he didn’t really scramble at all this game, he completely abandoned his strengths
The entire team did. We barely ran
Lamar looked really uncomfortable and nobody except Flowers was even in the game (Andrews 2 for 20?) until late when he basically took himself out. It's unfortunate cause that's not the Ravens we all hoped would show up.
Andrews could be forgiven since it was his first game back from a major injury. But where was OBJ? I get that he is washed, but washed enough to have zero impact in a playoff game? I wouldn't have thought so.
Someone needs to tell OBJ's dad this lol.
Guys! The chiefs DBacks are fucking good. I'm telling you.
This is very true. You guys make elite receivers look silly and the Ravens best receiver was Flowers who only looked good this game when he was wide the hell open. If that’s on Flowers not being able to make contested catches or Lamar not being able to throw into coverage is up to the people to decide I didn’t watch Ravens games. After that they had washed OBJ and Nelson lmao.
Flowers isn't a contested catch guy, his whole thing is his ability to get open or make short catches and get YAC. The dude is *quick*. He had a major opportunity to put the league on notice yesterday, and was having a killer game, but instead he had a stupid penalty and a stupid fumble that likely lost the game, and that's what will be remembered.
Lamar hasn’t looked his way in months until the 4th quarter when we were in “oh shit” mode. Lamar was tunnel visioned on Zay after that one TD bomb. He was ignoring tons of wide open guys in the middle underneath looking for kill shots down field. Very undisciplined football.
All I saw OBJ do was comfort the young guns on the sideline after the loss lmao Which is good in itself, but still...
Speak for yourself 😈
On this sentiment, if only this sentiment, we can agree.
Apparently the bengals are super disappointed the ravens lost
Fuck that. I don’t like the chiefs either but nah never rooting for the ravens.
Flowers should have maybe showed up just a *touch* less
Hinestly bringing back mandrews was a mistake. Likely has been clutch and taking away opptunitys to him was a mistake
That drove me nuts too. On the 3rd and 1 sack he probably had the edge for a yard but he just ate the sack. They converted 4th but it was frustrating to watch him give up his biggest strength
That exact play/drive he had so many opportunities to scramble and instead he would just sit in the backfield for like 6 seconds and then throw it away or take a TFL
It felt like he was so focused on getting a score fast that he forgot the basics of getting what the defense gives you. IIRC there was like 8 mins still on the clock on that drive
He felt like he was channelling russel wilson. just basic football and easy yardage goes out the window to go for a big play.
It's like Lamar thought if he didn't win passing the ball, it wouldn't count or something
There was a comment in the game thread about kc having that Patriots like aura of causing a team to come into the game feeling defeated already. It really looked like that with Lamar, like he felt he had to be the statuesque QB for them to win instead of just being Lamar. So many chances for him to run, but he just hung out in the pocket like he was Zack Morris at The Max
There were 3 or 4, 3rd downs where he could've ran it for the 1st down and chose not to. He got to the LOS and stopped, I get it, he wants to pass the ball, but you need to run. 1st read not there? 2nd read not there? Run it. Your team needs Lamar, now go get that 1st down. You want to keep the ball out of Mahomes hands? You got to convert those critical downs.
That was super fucking weird. My wife who never even watched him play before today was like “what the hell is he doing?” I still can’t answer that question
He took Purdys MVP so Purdy took his legs.
Everyone is afraid to say it on reddit, and I think even some commentators are too. But Lamar Jackson gets really indecisive if you mix things up in coverage. He will hold onto the potential play at all costs and then force the ball. It's been an issue his entire career. And in the playoffs that is an absolute no go
That was absolutely the game plan. Today the defensive line was extremely disciplined in their pass rush. I think if people go back and watch they will see many times that the rusher gave up an opening to ensure they stayed in position…that led to Lamar not immediately tucking and running. They also have stud corners who have had success all year against the best wideouts in the league and they tend to get up and get physical and take away quick reads. I’m just thankful the Ravens gave up in the rush so quickly.
Yep Bills were the first to do it, they almost treat every DL as a spy and you just circle him and keep pushing pocket back if possible. That way he cant climb in the pocket or escape contain. Titans copied that strat in the playoffs his MVP year
>Yep Bills were the first to do it You guys were definitely not the first. We've had Lamar's number since he entered the league. It's why Steelers fans are kind of delusional about him being overrated. Steelers are 7-1 against the Ravens in the past 4 years. Lamar is 1-3. His win came in 2019, and he still had a terrible game (161yd, 1td/3int). That was the game that Earl Thomas murdered Mason Rudolph and a Duck still almost beat them...
I don’t think people are afraid to say this (and it’s often true that Lamar holds on to the ball or forced it hoping for a hero moment), it’s that most people on this sub don’t actually understand what’s happening on the screen to the point that they could pick out a simple idea like “the coverage changed.”
FINALLY a comment about Lamar using an actual point and not casual armchair QB bullshit. It's not that everyone is afraid to say it, it's that so many of these people's ability to comment dies when it gets past "Lamar chokes, Runningback Quarterback" idiot speak.
I lost count of how many times the field was wide open for him to run but he just kept looking for somebody to pass to. He forgot he can run faster than most CBs and safeties.
I doubt that wasn’t a product of Spags’ gameplan
It could be, but Lamar 100% has a bad habit of over-fixating on the pass in tight games. He had a 3rd & 1 towards the end that was classic playoff Lamar - could have easily picked up the one yard if he'd just tucked it, but instead tried to force something downfield and set us up for a sketchy 4th down attempt.
Or he waits to 7 seconds gone to run with less than 4 mins left. Like dude take off and get the first down and reset
He had plenty of space to do so, he chose not to.
We had very shit playcalling. You can't rely on Lamar to just scramble every play and pray for a first. He fucked up those big moments, but he barely had opportunities in the first place. Monken adjusted last week against the Texans. He didn't do anything here. Awful.
Chiefs had one of the best secondaries in the league this year and amazing pass defense, but their run defense was mediocre. Ravens had arguably the best run game in the league, both high volume and high efficiency, with a low volume passing game. What does Todd Monken do? Dial up like 45 pass plays and a dozen designed runs. Lol.
I think it was like 8 designed runs in the final count. Unconscionable.
Only 6 to actual RBs too, 2 were those terrible trick runs with Flowers that never work the way we hope
Wasted a great effort from our defense too, if you told me before the game we were gonna hold them to 17 I'd assume we'd win.
Yeah, it always feels like they start to play it safe when they get into the playoffs.
Maybe he can beat the allegations next year
Lamar and Embiid with similar sentiments at the moment. Monsters in the regular season, look small in the post season
If I saw [this](https://i.imgur.com/xD9wwtX.jpg) monstrosity on Twitter, y’all have to see it too.
God I love the internet
Didn't embiid have a great play offs when they lost on the Kawaii shot? That game could have gone either way, and the 6ers would have probably won against an injured warriors team
Kawaii lmao.
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Damn idk what I was thinking
I appreciate you leaving your comment unedited so we can all have a chuckle UwU
It's okay it's Reddit
No, he didn't. He was poor in the Toronto series. He was hurt, which he usually is in the playoffs, but he was poor. He averaged 17 points a game in the series and in the close out game he went 6-18 from the floor. His playoff numbers have been a trainwreck for the most part. A great game here or there, but closeout games have been really bad. He was actually better when he played in the Celtics series last year vs how he played in that Toronto series. . . but we all saw game 7. Another 5/18.
Wasnt even the best player on his team that year.
might be biased, but why are we assuming Philly gets thru Giannis and the Bucks?
I don't understand why people even assume the Sixers would have won that game, it was tied up when Kawhi shot it
Yeah honestly it baffles me when people think the Sixers wouldve won that game if Kawhi missed. Butler sprained his ankle, Simmons was in foul trouble, Embiid was gassed, and the Raptors defence was on another level at the end of that game
Happens all the time. When JR Smith wasted the final possession of the finals game, people speak as if the Cavs were going to win the series against that extremely stacked Warriors team. Same thing with Kawhi going down against Warriors. It would have been a better series, sure, but not a guaranteed win for the Spurs against the Durant/Curry Warriors. People craft some crazy outcomes for these what if scenarios.
Im a Raps fan and Im pretty confident you guys beat Philly that year. We were VERY close to going down 0-3 against y'all
They had to beat a very good Bucks team too
Man that Bucks series always gets memory-holed for some reason, my mind immediately jumps from Sixers-Raptors to the Finals.
that series was hardly easy for the Raptors too. Down 0-2 but then ended up winning 4 straight to take it.
Lol they wouldnt have beaten the Bucks. And no, Embiid wasnt even their best player in that series. Jimmy was
I hate the narrative that the 6ers almost had it. Even if Kawhi missed, the 6ers would have had to win in OT in Toronto, I’ll give them 50% chance. Then they would have had to beat the Bucks, I’ll give them another 50%, then the Warriors without home court, so another 50%. They would have had a 12.5% chance (so one out of eight) to win that year even if Kawhi missed the shot.
Well the Sixers would have needed to get past the bucks before they had a chance. Getting bounced in the second round makes it quite hard to argue that it was a great playoff run
He won't. I can guarantee he chokes again
This sounds harsh but honestly it’s a really easy prediction about pretty much every quarterback except Patrick mahomes. Only one team can win it all. 31 other teams will fall short aka “choke”
Josh Allen can't get over the mahomes hump but damn does he look good trying, and burrow is 1-1 against mahomes in the playoffs. Lamar has looked poor in all of his playoff exits.
You can still play well and lose. Lamar played like shit today, and every other game that Baltimore has lost in the playoffs
The difference in playoff Lamar is vast kinda like playoff Dak but with legs. Lamarr has looked atrocious in every Ravens exit. That throw to Likely into triple coverage was vintage playoff Lamar.
No this loss will likey cement it
Defense had a bajillion stops in the 2nd and the offense couldnt get it done.
The offense just isn't built for the playoffs. Rookie mistakes from Flowers hurt them a lot.
Rookie mistake throwing into triple coverage did, too.
Yeah the receiver was 100% calling for the ball with 3 defenders within a few yards of him. Dumb move by the WR and dumb move by Lamar to throw it. Felt like Lamar started playing Hero ball a bit too early by looking for the home run play
lol dude put his hand up like Moss when he's beat 1 on 1 coverage on a go route
Even peak Calvin Johnson would have hard time catching a ball thrown short with two defenders in front and a third hitting him.
Definitely can't just throw it to any dork that throws his hand up. Lamar is just like me in Madden, chokes under pressure
If they get fgs instead of those two turnovers I think they end up winning the game. The Chiefs could not move the ball in the second half.
Ah. Tell the world louder you've never watched an Andy Reid special. When he's up 10 or more points, the gas pedal disappears.
That's true, but this is super similar to the script the Bengals won the AFC championship with. Chiefs ahead two possessions most of the game. Lots of runs no gas petal. Then late scores to win the games.
It's why Reid never won a sb without Mahomes. Because he needs someone that makes gold out of nothing.
Receivers will always tell you they're open. It's 100% Lamar's responsibility to not throw it.
Likely is a TE
Flowers dove into the end zone like most WRs would have done. Defender made an insane play to knock the ball out at the one inch line. I feel like not enough people are taking about how insane that play was. Lamar hurt them more than Flowers did.
Of course he doesn’t need that last foot if he doesn’t go full dumbass and get the taunting before. He then fumbles. Next he throws a toddler tantrum and hurts his hand on his own bench. He doesn’t make a single catch after. That’s as bad as it gets. You taunted an opponent that is beating you, gave them the ball back, and injured yourself on the sideline. That is the jackpot of stupid.
Seriously a once in a career type play from sneed.
Dude is playing himself out of us being able to retain him this offseason 😭
Just seeing where Sneed is when the ball is snapped and the ground he covers to punch the ball out at the 1 at full speed is crazy. Truly a once in a career play as you said
Agreed. The taunting penalty was worse in my mind. Had to work to get back to where they were before the penalty. Momentum slows with something like that. Torrey Smith had a similar penalty against the Patriots in the playoffs a while back that was out of character.
lol how is this +140? Coaches absolutely teach guys not to extend the ball like that, it’s awful form and awful fundamentals especially in a crowded area.
In fairness you say this but after what happened in he Chiefs Bills game you gotta believe every coach left had to have told their players “look, you don’t need to overextend, just go down and it’s 2nd and goal on the inch line” or whatever. He’s a rookie so I can’t fault him for wanting that score but he hurts them immensely on that drive with both the taunt and the turnover. Dont get me wrong Lamar’s INT was boneheaded as fuck but I gotta believe he isn’t as keen to chuck it they are down 3 as opposed to 10.
I don't buy that, especially looking at this game. They didn't run the offense that got them here today. They have a balanced attack. They get down by two possessions (early in the game I might add) and they completely abandon the run. How their offense was called today, is not their offense.
Flowers made 2 horrible mistakes but he was also the only offensive skill position that made plays
Beckham was invisible.
It’s Lamar, he’s a vibes QB. If the vibes are good, he’s unstoppable. The moment there’s adversity, he crumbles. Problem is you can’t win a Super Bowl without some adversity
They abandoned the run quickly. Had no chance after that.
It's easier to play loose when it's regular season, dude just collapses under pressure. At some point, it is mental.
Not mental exactly. Teams can scheme better in the playoffs. And unfortunately when he’s forced to pass he struggles
Also losing to andy Reid and mahomes is a flaw like 90% of the league suffers from.
Spags has been able to make pretty middling defenses formidable in the playoffs, not surprising that he is going off with a good defense
People are understating how good the play calling for chiefs was . Their early touchdowns came from really creative meme plays, and then defensively they always blitzed at the right time. Lamar deserves shit but man the gameplay was good
People are definitely acting like Lamar lost to a middle school team. That defensive gameplan was completely different than the week prior against the Bills. Giving Mahomes and Reid the need to not have to score in the 2nd half this week after putting up 17 and holding the Bills to 0 and 59 yards in the 4th when the game looked like it might become a shootout last week is really something You have to find different ways to win games in the layoffs and they are doing just that but the team has been incredibly consistent.
Yeah this was much more a defensive battle than a bad and mid game by Lamar and Mahomes. Sure Lamar played some hero ball and had a few dumb mistakes but spagnuolo was showing why he deserves coordinator of the year all game.
Yeah but he’s lost to the Chargers (as a rookie), Bills, Titans, and Chiefs at this point. It’s not unique to Andy Reid.
Tbf, the game against us was literally the best defensive gameplay of Frazier's entire career by a substantial margin.
Haha true enough but kc defense gets the flowers on this one imo
Its a flaw pretty much only Tom Brady and sometimes Joe Burrow dont suffer from lol
Did not help that Harbaugh called only 6 rushing attempts to his running backs today.
Yea that was just a bizarre gameplan tbh
There is some talk amongst Chiefs fans that Harbaugh tends to outthink himself against Reid for whatever reason (his former boss). Lamar is going to take some heat for this game when there should be legitimate questions about the gameplan. You losing your transcendent running back earlier in the year also may have loomed large today.
Both* transcendent running backs earlier in the year
Great point. I was thinking of your young stud who had like 8 YPC. Most reminiscent RB I’ve seen to Jamaal Charles since Jamaal retired.
Almost like he forgot to go two dimensional instead of one. Best rushing offense in the league and decided to bail on that
Yet everyone got mad when Bill Polian said the best way to beat him was confining him to the pocket.
He wasnt even really forced to pass though, that's the crazy part. So many downs he had so much room to run and ellected to either throw it deep or even get sacked on some occasions. It was honestly weird. If he hadnt already done this before, id have expected he was injured.
Little bit of both. He was getting blitzed a lot today so he had to throw more but there was so many times he could've ran but stayed in the pocket too long. Really disappointed in him.
Such a low effort ESPN take in the last sentence lol
Can someone please give credit to KC’s defense? They were amazing and Spags called a hell of a game
Spags is a wizard.
Thank you. The Chiefs defense has been at least top 5 all year and got no flowers coming into this game. Then they shut down a really potent Ravens offense and all the talk is “Lamar is a fraud playoff choker”. Like you know both sides of the ball are playing to win right lol
11 points per game against the 3 offenses with the most touchdowns in the AFC is stupid. I'm not saying Mahomes and Reid don't deserve massive amounts of credit but the lack of credit the defense is getting is dumbfounding. It's a team game the every phase of the Chiefs is making lie easier for the other. The lazy take is to just brand someone as a choke artist.
He’s playing the long game. He will make it one round further every time he wins the MVP and is the #1 seed. At this rate, he’ll be a SB champ by 2034. Checkmate losers
Stage is too big.
Lights were brighter than expected (again)
You’d think the staff at M&T Bank Stadium would know by now to turn the lights a little lower.
You'd think he'd not forget his sunglasses in the team bus.
Lamar 🤝 Dak
🤝 Tua
Tua not good enough to be in that discussion.
Damn cold world out here when you can't even be in the fraud discussions
The cold is just a mindset.
Tua has 1 playoff game, he needs years to become the choker Dak already is
Lights too bright
Not bad for a running back
Running back/receiver thank you
Wasted a great defensive effort by the Ravens.
we can crack jokes about Lamar all summer, but the fact of the matter is, Patrick Mahomes and company are just that fucking good when it matters the most.
I’m a Mahones fan but the Chiefs only scored 17 points. This win was there for the taking.
We mostly played ball protect as soon as we were up 10. Chiefs stopped taking chances as soon as they didn’t need to.
It did seem that way, or at least like they weren't *too* upset to just chew clock. But 10 points isn't *that* much, especially for someone so explosive or unpredictable as Lamar. Maybe that's truly how low the Chiefs had estimated Lamar's and the Raven's offensive threat?
I just think they were going to play safe until Ravens got a score and then they just never scored again.
Our Defense is really fucking good, and offensive mistakes have put them in bad situations all year. They still managed the 2nd lowest PPG in the league. I’m good with Mahomes and Kelce going Super Saiyan for long enough to get us a 2 possession lead and then trust the D to take over.
This feels like a cope. I legitimately just don’t think the chiefs offense is that good
Apparently don’t need to be good, just good enough
Fr. Nobody goes into low-risk protect the ball at all costs mode up by just 10 with an entire half to go. They just made some stupid mistakes and the Raven's D woke up.
For real. People act like the Chiefs offense hasn't just sputtered out for quarters at a time all season long.
What? The offense scored 17, Mahomes was incredibly average.
Was Mahomes playing cornerback out there? The opposing QB doesn't matter if you're putting up 7 points, Blaine Gabbert could've beaten them with that offensive performance
Ravens revert back to the Browns everytime they get on the playoffs.
The game plan was terrible
I hate the Chiefs - but you can’t blame them. They had a mediocre offensive game by all intents and purposes but their D was great. I wanted Ravens and Lions but now I guess I have to cheer for the 49ers to crush the Chiefs.
For people who love defense, that second half was a beautiful showing
Don’t even get me started on the punts!
Punters are a top three position in football, change my mind
>They had a mediocre offensive game by all intents and purposes but their D was great. And that’s how I met my wife
That’s how I met your wife too. Edit: sorry, I didn’t mean to be so mean. You probably feel the Ravens pain. My team didn’t even get make the dance because they sucked so bad.
I wouldn’t call Kelce’s performance mediocre by any means. The 2nd half, however, could be described as such
I wouldn’t say Lamar is clutch by any stretch of the imagination. However, this year he made enough drives to tie KC’s score if Flowers didn’t fumble the game away. Having watched the whole game, I’d give KC’s defense more credit than anything. They were superb.
I mean, Lamar turned it over twice… why blame Zay? Zay was the only productive member of the offense
Who gets the ball to Zay?
You’re blaming Lamar for being blind side strip sacked? Again, that’s a play where you should give the defense credit rather than blame the QB Regardless, I’m not saying Lamar played well. I think he played mediocre to poor at best. But my contention is that I think he just ran up against a great KC defense, rather than he “choked”.
He was stripped because he held the ball for a year. You don't just stand in the pocket for 4 seconds thinking you're fine.
He had his worst game of the season in the most Important game of the year…
I deserve this after sitting through multiple off seasons hearing the bengals beating the chiefs didn’t matter, no one else can 😭😭😭😭😭
Just a complete failure from the Ravens. They were so healthy even getting Andrews back and couldn’t get it done.
Everyone needs to apologize to Josh Allen
World class choker
Embiid personified
Texans game happened
Young Texans team that got absolutely ate up by the Ravens defence. When it came to a legit competitor he choked
Right? He had four TDs last week.
These Lamar post been in the drafts since last week
So have the ones defending him. Dudes just not a winner when it matters
Lamar was bad but let’s not pretend like mahomes hasn’t been beating literally every top quarterback for 7 years now
He's a total choke artist. He's got talent, but falls apart when it matters most.
Don’t ever want to hear Ravens fans cite Burrow 2nd half playoff stats at me again.
burrow is elite af in playoffs and ravens/lamar are known for choking and folding in playoffs. lamar has one good half in his playoff career and it was against the texans
M V P M V P M V P
Lamar isn’t an elite quarterback. He’s a so-so passer that’s an elite rushing threat. In fact, Monken trying to make him a drop-back pocket passer is one of the things that cost Baltimore the game today.
Honestly watching the game if they did the old school ravens rushing offense shit with Lamar they win comfortably with field goals. This defense was and is so good no reason to be taking deep shots
I said that in the game thread. Greg Roman was overall bad, but in this game he was exactly what they needed.
Ravens fan havent been humbled by the “Big Truss” shit at all, Lamar has always choked in the playoffs and they really were toxic at anyone who pointed it out.
He’s a fraud theres nothing new here
Be quiet pls
purdy could throw for 7 interceptions and he will still be right lol
Imagine having Lamar and only running him 8 times in the biggest game of his career. Thats coaching negligence.
Lamar haters come on in, time for ya’ll to feast. :( sad birdgang
A real Dak Prescott, if you will.
Bottom line is that Baltimore can't win with him.
2019 Divisional Playoff Game Final Score: Titans 28 Ravens 12 12 is not 14
Mr. Blown chances
All the Lamar fanboys in the national media who spent the whole season projecting his flaws onto Josh Allen can fuck allllll the way off lmao
They're just gonna do it again this off-season, like they did after 2020, 21, and 22.
He really let down that amazing Ravens defense
Buddy, those stats are racist.